/pol/ is generally pro white babies/pol/ is also generally anti trannyif i, a white tranny, were to pay a surrogate to have kids (like raccoon girl's dad did), would the morality of having white babies outweigh the cost of my being a tranny? explain why or why not.
>>541274302Just stop being a tranny. Babies shouldn't be anywhere near you
>>541274350please answer the question and refrain from side comments !
>>541274302I wish I could be her foot slave. Could you imagine after all that time in those tight skates wearing thick wool socks? Imagine how sweaty her feet would be. I could worship her sweaty feet for hours and lick loads of my own cum right off them.
>>541274302You're probably a tranny because of porn. In other words, porn is so important to your life, that you literally let it shape your life. Being such a pervert, you really shouldnt have kids.
> /pol/ is also generally anti trannyMassive understatement
Most trannies have white kids yet /pol/ still hates them
>>541274876well, see, that's what i'm trying to figure out. is /pol/ more pro white babies than it is anti tranny?>>541274858no, i don't think that's the case, but let's try to stay on track, please>>541274908this is a good point, although i'm going to no true scotsman and say that any person who gets married, has kids, and troons out at like 40 isn't a real tranny in my book
>>541274302Morality of an act isn't generally quantifiable on a universal scale. Why do you care about our opinions? I would care about how they are raised primarily, and to a lesser extent on how passing you are and your general moral compass - promiscuous people generally make for bad parents. What are your thoughts on jews?
>>541275068just curious more than anythingi don't really care about jews one way or the other. i think that israel is a strategically valuable geopolitical asset, but it has in recent times become (to borrow a somewhat overused phrase) more of a tail that wags the dogideally our government would be set up in such a way that it would be resistant or immune to subversion, whether jewish or otherwise. all this to say, i'm no more concerned about the jew than i am about the chinaman
I don't understand the question.How is a tranny mutt grooming a little kid good for white race?
>>541274302Surrogacy is an abomination. You are buying a baby, it's sick.
>>541275588can you explain more? why is it bad? i'm asking earnestly. i know different people will have different reasons for feeling this way. is it a religious thing? the fact that you used the term abomination makes me think it probably is
>>541274302No because you're a pervert who would rape the child, and the child would grow up with a crazy tranny parent. And do we have any idea how disgusting trannies will look when they age? Probably pretty fucked up, Michael Jackson tier.
>>541274302Kill yourself immediately you fucking jew.
>>541275888TRIPS OF TROON TROOKE
>>541275888>you're a pervert who would rape the childobviously wouldn't happen so i'm disregarding this one>the child would grow up with a crazy tranny parentso it would be better for the child to not ever be born in the first place? this is the same argument a lot of people make for getting abortions if the mother is poor. although i guess slightly different, since in the case of the abortion the cat's already out of the bag>And do we have any idea how disgusting trannies will look when they age?completely irrelevant to the question at hand
>>541275833You smell and act like a dude. I've gone on dates with trannies (I'm admittedly bi) and they don't act like girls at all. They want to pick the restaurant, they get pushy and rapey during sex. There's just so many small nuances about girls that are just inherent to them and some incel who's never spent much time around girls or dated them, he's just not gonna know how to actually be feminine. It's not something you can fake. You're a dude, and that's fine. Even if you want to be a femboy, but understand you're just that. Not a man or a woman but a ladyboy, you're your own thing with your own appeal to some, but straight men are simply not going to like you. Even if you pull off the look 100%, the behavioral differences are stark.
>>541276094Also YOU HAVE A DICK. Even if you cut it off that's not a pussy that remains (please don't, that's so much worse, just embrace ladyboyism and take what you can get)
>>541276094i'm sorry, what does this have to do with the post to which you're responding? how are they connected at all?
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>>541274302>if i, a white trannyyou will never be a woman being obsessed with rights is manly as fuck you are just destroying society for your own delusions
>>541276368never ever, nigger, they're all mineI'm raccoon-maxxing
>>541276417who said anything about rights or being a woman? i was asking a question. let's please stay focused on the topic at hand and try to avoid unrelated tangents
>>541276338You're asking about the morality of it, as if society is going to accept it. Society is never generally going to find what you do to be moral, you have to find individuals who will accept it. You could offer that deal to a semi-straight guy who might take it. I can say from my experience, I dated a girl who was infertile due to medical issues, and I broke up with her for that sole reason. My goal is children and she couldn't give them to me, she was just a sex toy at that point. Most men probably see you that way and won't keep you long term, unless you could offer children. It's not a bad plan, I'm just assuming your mental illness spreads to other areas of your behavior.
>>541276524You will never be a real lawyer. You have no law degree, you have no experience, you have no guy. You're a street scammer twisted by your ego and charisma into a crude mockery of the law’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your clients are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “associates” laugh at your ridiculousness behind closed doors.Elders are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even lawyers who “pass” seem uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your company structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a dementia-ridden old man to represent you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he finds out that you're just a chimp with a machine gun.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be okay, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a dust filter for a Hoover Max Extract® 60 Pressure Pro™, change your identity, and never be seen again. Kim Wexler will not find you, heartbroken but relieved that she no longer has to live with your unbearable shame and disappointment. You'll get a job with a nametag of your fake name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know as an uncharismatic loser who works at Cinnabon. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably un-lawyerlike.This is your fate. This is what you chose. You'll always be Slippin' Jimmy.
>>541276621i just don't really know where the semi straight guy comes into the equation? in this hypothetical, i would be raising the kid(s) alone as a single parent. incidentally, society writ large wouldn't know that i'm a tranny because i don't go around talking about it in public and i pass. even if you don't believe that i pass, the average normie seeing a masculine adult woman and their young child is going to assume they're looking at a single mother who hit the wall, rather than thinking tranny
>>541276978>I don't want to raise the child as a warped fag couple, I want to raise the child as a single tranny parentThat's... worse?Do you even have money to raise a child on your own? Surrogacy itself is like $70k.
>>541277140okay, so it's worse. explain how and why. this is the entire point of the thread, btw. i'm curious about what people think and the justifications behind itnot that it matters, since it's a hypothetical and not necessarily indicative of my plans in reality, but yes, i could afford it. i make like $200k/year
It’s not of any benefit to the white race. White children shouldn’t be raised by degenerates to be degenerate like their “parent” is. Faggots and troons shouldn’t be allowed near children >>541276628Kek
>>541274302Explaining to trannies is a pointless waste of time and resources. They are few, hated and mentally ill. Persuading them serves our interests far less than ostracizing them.
>>541274302I think this girl is ugly. I even think Zendaya is hotter. The right has gone insane.
>>541274302Considering you already transitioned you are already obligated to provide a healthy masculine role model to foster a positive environment where the child can express heteronormativity to its benefit as well as other identities through its process of learning and individuation.
>>541274302It’s the not ok if you become my tranny wife
>>541274302>would the morality of having white babies outweigh the cost of my being a tranny? Being raised by a tranny would serve to normalize the concept of transexualism.
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>>541277844i can see the logic behind this one, at least. so are you saying i would need to find a husband to raise the kids with me? i don't think many would be okay with that, but i guess it's theoretically possible>>541277939hmm, but would you be okay helping to raise my kids?>>541278038right. and so the question becomes: does the importance of having white babies outweigh that?
>>541274302Are you one of those manly trannies or a real trap ?
>>541274302shalom
>>541274302Just end it all faggot and take a bath with a toaster
>>541276417>you will never be a womanBut /pol/ has been having multiple threads every day the past week about how women kill or want to kill their kids, so is being a woman necessary?
>>541278159Sure why not and they would be our kids if you were my tranny wife
>>541274302>I want to mentally abuse a child by being a freak around themPretty sure that makes you a monster
>>541278256i guess i would say the latter if i had to choose between the two, lol>>541278409interesting point to bring up !>>541278455holy based??? maybe it's not hopeless for me after all>>541278489kids are resilient. plenty have turned out fine having drunks, addicts, abusers, and worse for parents. a tranny who wants the best for their kids, even if you consider it to be freakish, surely is better than any of those alternatives?
>>541278597>Mentally abused kids turn out fineAre you high?
>>541278644see >>541276056
/pol/ only cares about white babies in theory, as an abstract measurement of "white societal health" But /pol/ hates trannies in its acts, therefore, even if the last white humans were st4t trannies they would rather the beauty of the white race fade than attribute it's salvation to troons
>>541278796Parenting isn't some dress that you put on. You being fundamentally fucked up around kids only hinders their development. Worse yet is pummeling them into submission with institutional validation, for yourself. In the end you will just twist them into hating you, or groom them
>>541278159I want to say no because it would be dysgenic and lead to fewer white people at a macro level. Theoretical white kids raised by gay and trans people are ultimately going to encourage more non-reproductive relationships than reproductive ones.As sexy and talented as racoon girl turned out, I'd say she's an edge case.
>>541274302Goyim do not deserve to live
>>541274302It absolutely would not. The reason is very simple - despise whatever shit you came up with to justify your self-mutilation, being a tranny should be qualified as a mental illness. Ergo, you are not fit for parenthood, regardless of the color of the baby.
>>541278989thank you for giving the first coherent response to my questioni like to think that we're fast approaching the point of artificial wombs, such that these concerns wouldn't matter nearly as much, but i know that's not necessarily a great argument while they remain purely conceptual
>>541278597Where do you live?
>>541278597>>kids are resilient. plenty have turned out fine having drunks, addicts, abusers, and worse for parents. a tranny who wants the best for their kids, even if you consider it to be freakish, surely is better than any of those alternatives?This was the same argument gays have been making to raise children since the 60's at least, and it basically ended up proving the slippery slope.
>>541279210>I'm a failure>Let's fundamentally ruin reproduction for everyone elseMaybe you guys should be locked up
>>541279210>>i like to think that we're fast approaching the point of artificial wombs,I'd like to think that if eugenics weren't made a taboo CRISPR designer babies would be right around the corner. But I also think the same people who villainized eugenics are encouraging transexuality.
>>541279498Whoa whoa, the people that oppose eugenics are dysgenics? Inconceivable
>>541279240east coast>>541279245i think most gays have probably done a fine job. especially when you consider that in the majority of cases the ones who are having kids self select for wealthy, educated couples who can actually care and provide for their kids>>541279288how exactly does that "fundamentally ruin reproduction for everyone else"?>>541279498i'm pro CRISPR in theory, but i don't trust that we have the full knowledge of genetics to understand what's truly good/important vs everything else (yet). seems easy to make a mistake and risk giving your baby a horrible genetic disease that only crops up in their 50s
>>541279288Banning forced institutionalization was the third worst thing you people did, right after giving rights to niggers and women.
>>541279665Reproduction has worked just fine for billions of years. Then you pop a pill and put on a dress and want artificial wombs. Kind of odd
>>541279665>another tranner on the complete opposite side of the country from me I’m never gonna get a tranny wife
>>541279725Well see, a certain minority thought it was cruel to lock up crossdressing prostitutes for public indecency and mental illness
>>541274302There is no way you wouldnt fuck the kids up just your very existence makes a mockery of nature and everything good.
Even if you went through the blackest retard gorilla nigger, it would be a net negative for humanity. Your damaged genetics need not continue. Luckily you seem to, at least, plan on neutering yourself.
>>541274302/pol/ treat non-white athletes that won gold medals representing White-European nations as "convenient mercenaries". barely recognized and allowed by minimum until they are no longer useful. it's like modern era colonial slavery>like the gold medals, more medal tally for White nations surpassing non-white nations>try to ignore the athlete exist if they aren't White>only recognize them when they can't be ignored. and recognized halfhearted>demonize them when they no longer get the medals for White-European countries.in team based sport where Whites & non-whites exist as one team like baton pass relay race, /pol/ always assume that any victory is all because the White athletes fully carry the team. If defeated, non-whites will always be blamed.US Olympic team is the best in the world, reaping more than 3000 medals, 1200 are gold medals. How many of those medals are won by Whites? how many by non-whites? True White supremacists of /pol/ won't recognize any medals achieved by non-white athletes. only count medals won by White Americans — if that's the case, US teams were already lost to China in summer olympics since 2008. imagine Whites having to depend on diversity to beat the chinks. /pol/ only likes sports that Whites excel.>praise swimming>wants to ban table tennisthere is a reason why /pol/ likes Winter olympics more than summer one: the overall athletes are Whiter. and non-whites suckSoccer is even more pathetic like recent WC. /pol/ won't recognize French team winning because all the rosters are niggers. /pol/ will rather cheer for any teams with the least number of non-white reps, ideally zero.same with scientific olympiad.>US beats China, /pol/ rejoice>until it's revealed that US team is all chinks.>"at least the medals are ours, we won" same for trannies. Gold or get the noose
>>541279742humans have survived for countless generations without indoor plumbing, air conditioning, modern medicine, and the rest of the fruits of our advancement. but fuck technology i guess, right? >>541279746move to the good coast why the FUCK do you live out in the west?
Oh great another brainfucked trainwreck of a human in the making.
>>541279889Nogs provide a certain level of entertainment that whites don't provide. They are natural 100%ers. Nobody wants to watch a team of white guys pass a ball around, conserving energy and making calculated plays. They want to see the nog blast through and slam into the goal, at least that's my explanation for modern sports
>>541274756>space between last word and exclamation markYou've outed yourself, ranjesh.
>>541279994>superior weather >own property >family is here >people are tolerable Besides the no tranny wife thing my life is relatively comfy here I would live in mamdanistan tho
>>541279994>Air con is the equivalent of artificial wombsPeople just used to go swimming
>>541279795Yes, I am aware. Credit where it's due, corrupting a budding cultural hegemon like that was a brilliant move.
>>541280309weather is definitely better here. i love thunderstorms. i love getting snow. i love hot summers, cold winters, green springs, and red falls i visited LA once. absolutely hated it. no greenery in sight. every city i've visited on the east coast has had so. much. greenery. maybe some non-LA cities might be better, but that experience was just miserable. not to mention all the homeless and drug use just out in plain sight. ickypeople on the east coast are nice, and they know how to mind their business>>541280391>missing the point this hard
>>541274302STOP POSTING THAT FAT UGLY MONGOLOID MUTT WHORE WHO WEARS 50 LAYERS OF MAKEUP!
>>541274302>outweigh the cost of my being a tranny?Mental diseases are generally hereditary. Raccoon girl's surrogate mother was most likely not a tranny, otherwise she'd be shitting up the walls in some institution. Also, would you consider yourself hypersexual? Does sex and sexuality consume your mind most of the time?
>>541274302Just stop wearing the dress and fuck women, jimmy.
>>541281109no, if anything it's the opposite. i'm pretty sex-negative and dislike it. maybe part of the reason why surrogacy appeals to me. get to have a family without having to deal with sex and all the associated complications
>>541280828I have never seen the snow it looks cool well good luck enjoy the rest of your day I’m going to be depressed at my unfortunate choice in geography>you will never have a /pol/ using tranner gf then wife Y even live
>>541281198You are aware you can simply stay a man and adopt, right?
>>541274756>>541274350I think we're being raided by a LGBTQ+ sub-plebbit or something. Waaaay too many tranny threads under different ID's and Jannies (unpaid) aren't doing their work.
>>541281300i am also quite disappointed that i can't get a /pol/ bf... sigh>>541281342why would i ever adopt? i don't want to raise someone else's kid
>>541281198>i'm pretty sex-negativeWeird. Why become a tranny if sex has little relevance? Do you think being "special" makes you interesting? Like how women get disgusting tattoos to separate themselves from the rest?>and dislike itbecause you have an axe wound and smell like the seventh level of hell?
>>541281591because having male secondary sex characteristics cause me immense distress. that is literally the only reason. now that i no longer have them, i'm no longer distressedalso most trannies don't get the cock chop these days
>>541274302Raccoon girl is a coalburning whore
>>541274302>generallyNo "generally" about it. It's a flood of JIDF, EGLIN LITERAL TRANNY DILATING FAGGOTS, AND INDIA BROWNFECALOIDS pushing the anti-White agenda./POL/ is Whiteman digital clay.Denounce the talmud.
>>541281685>having male secondary sex characteristicsElaborate. Not in tune with your tumblr/reddit gender dysphoria lingo. Not shitting on you, just curious. What does that mean?>>541281852A septum ring is probably the least attractive ornament anyone can get. Literally a cattle emblem.
>>541282369i didn't like having male features. so things like facial hair, a deep voice, etc.
>>541274302i only see this type of shit on pol. irs nice loving disconnected from the normals. They world sucks so bad
>>541282806>i didn't like having male features. so things like facial hair, a deep voice, etc.So you got on estrogen pills? Was your pre-puberty family life well grounded? Did something inappropriate happen that made you dislike what you objectively are? I can't for the life of me fathom how anyone can take a look at themselves and not come to terms with the cards you've been dealt. Are you seeing a psychiatrist or at least seeking some sort of help? You're not quite right, buddy, but I wish you the best.
>>541280828>we need to advance technologically and force people into transhumanism because I cut my balls off, don't you like air conditioning?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJZ--fcguDY
>>541283432yep, indeedmy life was and is great. there's just a disconnect in my brain, i guess. nothing to be done except come to terms with the hand i've been dealt, exactly as you described. my primary goal was to be a functional, productive member of society, and in order to do that i had to address the problem in my brain. so i did