I think an underdiscussed effect of the fact that fewer and fewer people have children is increasing political polarisation.And it's not just the obvious reason - having a child, having a family makes you crave stability which generally means support of centrist policies, status quo stuff.No, going by what I have seen happen among family, friends and even myself, I think having a child actively pulls you into the center of politics. Examples:1. You're some lefty woman. You start walking around with a stroller and a baby, you will start to care very much about the safety and cleanliness of public transportation, public parks, etc. You will wish that someone would just take all these quesitonable individuals hanging around playgrounds or on street corners and put them somewhere else.2. You're some rightoid male. You see your significant other go through the strain of pregnancy, you see how much work it takes to have a child, raise a child, care for a child. You see that the whole "mental load" thing isn't a meme. You'll start to see how much society expects of mothers, how low your bar is to get praised as a father. You're gonna think that in some ways, the feminists had a point. You're gonna care more about funding public daycare, schools, playgrounds. In general, having a child fosters community. And the bigger the community, the more moderate it tends to be. And raising a child encourages a certain pragmatism that makes you see the points of all sides.But nowadays nobody has children, everyone's atomised, everyone's alone and just browsing xitter in their echo chambers, encouraing more and more radical thoughts to stand out. So everyone is going fucking crazy.
>>541279885I wish I could impregnate a qt anime girl so bad bros.
>>541279949trump is gonna make anime girls real
>>541279949no petite gymnat/ballet tomboy haircut girls bouncing around all naive and horny to inseminate.the jews did this.
>>541279885>You'll start to see how much society expects of mothersvs how little is actually required in reality
>>541280200if you want to be a crappy mother maybe
>>541280113That's that Melody Marks girl that's popular with the jav watchers. I've seen her take so much BBC and lick the guy's feet and asshole on her own accord.
>>541279885It's true, but feminism makes it so hard to get a girl to agree to this.Instead of worrying that their career might effect their baby, they worry that their baby might effect their low-paying job they hate.
>>541279885>You see your significant other go through the strain of pregnancy, you see how much work it takes to have a child, raise a child, care for a child. You see that the whole "mental load" thing isn't a meme. You'll start to see how much society expects of mothers, how low your bar is to get praised as a father. You're gonna think that in some ways, the feminists had a point.Lmao fuck off simpYou want men to care about women, acknowledge their grievances are legitimate. We're already subjected to the feminist perspective 24/7 in virtually all mainstream media
>>541280245The only crappy mothers are the ones who get divorced and force the father out of the house, the father is the parent kids actually need.
>>541280523Yeah, and you reaction is to scoff it off, presumably because you never slept next to a pregnant woman who wakes up in a panic in the middle of the night because her lungs are being pressed together and she started choking on herself.
>>541280653>you reaction is to scoff it off,Because I'm already subjected to the feminist perspective 24/7 in virtually all mainstream media.
>>541280802And you believe this perspective to be wrong, unwarranted?
>>541279885not my problem.i remember mentioning to some roasties a few years ago on /pol/, /b/ or maybe youtube or instagram, "there will come a day when women will be desperate for men, and men will reject them (paraphrase)". then i quoted a passage from the bible where it says that women [in those days] would end up begging men to give them their name, 10 women to one man, and that he didn't even need to provide that they would provide for themselves. (i forget the passage), and i was laughed at, as if such a future could ever even happen to them.now its starting to manifest, and i can't even bring myself to be happy about it, its not a joyous occasion.i really wanted a cute faithful wife, but women wanted to be whores and "boss bitches", now i dont want anything.i hope they are happy with the future they brought on themselves, because the desperation they'll bring on themselves is not something i wish to see, the number of deaths that will come from this in the coming years are not the future anyone of us wanted, but they didn't want to be wives, but worthless toysthey just had to be humble and not seek for more than the bare necessities in life.now no one wins, everyone suffer and there's no refunds.i guess that really is the motto to this century of humiliation.no refunds.
>>541280251Do you think she avoids looking in the mirror from the suicidal thoughts? I don't think that girl is long for this world.
It doesn't matter because society as a whole has made the prospect of having a family be a tool used against a man instead of a reward like it has been for all of human history
>>541280869Yes, women are immensely privileged in Western societies and I'm sick of being told the opposite is the case, and I can have no legitimate issues as a man
>>541280947society being filled with people extremely opposed to one another is your problemit's everyone's problem
>>541279885>You see your significant other go through the strain of pregnancy, you see how much work it takes to have a child, raise a child, care for a child.whatever>You see that the whole "mental load" thing isn't a meme.no>You'll start to see how much society expects of mothers,literally nothing>how low your bar is to get praised as a father.hahahahahaha no>You're gonna think that in some ways, the feminists had a point.all simps burn in hell forever> You're gonna care more about funding public daycare, schools,no>playgrounds.yes
>>541281120I dont believe you have a child if your reaction to seeing the woman you love go through pregnancy is "whatever"
>>541279885>I think having a child actively pulls you into the center of politics.Europeans are so utterly lost and disconnected from nature and history lolRight wing conservatism is the conservation of traditional values that have been tested by time immemorial. That is why right wingers have more children and lead happier and more fulfilling lives. Being a centrist today means being disconnected from history and objective reality and not knowing which way is up. Your compass is broken.
>>541279885>Widespread childlessness is causing political extremismYou've got it backwards.
>>541279885Gunnar Heinsohn
>>541280869It wouldn't need to be artificially forced with infinite jew money if it were.
>>541281094whores who divorce their would-be husbands should be rejected from custody of the children on account of their degenerate choices
>>541281206>>541281068but declining birthrates are older than the rather recent extreme political polarisation
>>541280947Meanwhile in reality, women are doing better without men than with them.
>>541281182(1) the raped faggot feels his instinctive need to take care of his pregnant woman(2) he assumes that he is the only person to ever have felt that way(3) he condemns other men for not feeling his normal feelings as a distraction from him being condemned for his abnormal feelings
>>541281200Family man conservatives are not the current right-wing in america. You called those guys RHINOs, and the Mitt Romneys of the world don't support Trump.Trump is a serial adulterer with a mail-order bride.
>>541281094>society being filled with people extremely opposed to one another is your problemIt's not an even situation, other people are opposed to *me* all the opposition is coming from one direction towards me.
>>541281416>women are doing better without men than with themthrough kidnapping, enslavement, general whoring, affirmative action
>>541281299I have a better one:>Whoever files for no fault divorce will also relinquish the right to keep the children and house.Divorce is divorce bitch, "to cut off; separate or disunite: synonym: separate"If you wanna leave, you're leaving everything behind. >>541281438The average "family man" conservative is an out of touch idiot with tons of money who thinks that if you just do what he did, everything will work out, when that isn't true for the vast majority of men
>>541281438feminists will never be right wing, because feminism is fundamentally contrary to God, tradition, and basic logic
>>541279885The amount of girls with baby fever around my age is crazy, they wait to long they should been asking me to put a baby in them at 23 not 33. Post wall women are desperate, I barely got attention in my teens and 20s now I've had girls I went to HS with me wanting to reconnect that wouldn't have let me do anything with them in High School. It isn't a great feeling, feels like if I want a relationship I'll just be getting all the other men's scraps.
>>541281294that doesn't even make sense, something can be correct and still fail to "win" because there are incentives to deny it.for example, men benefit from patriarchal values and cultural customs, so half the population has an incentive to just ignore it.
>>541281485Yes, women are doing better than men, retard. Its why most young guys have never been in a relationship and are unemployed and broke. What a retarded cope.
>>541281438Lol are you talking about politicians? Nobody takes those people literally or seriously. Of course I'm talking about family men. So are you. Dumbass.
>>541281641My point was, your right-wing conservatives with families are more centrist, mode moderate than the rest of their wing.
>>541281581>feels like if I want a relationship I'll just be getting all the other men's scraps...and they have more of an entitlement mentality than ever despite being fat and infertile. theyre greens, not reds
>>541281604>for example, men benefit from patriarchal values and cultural customsEveryone does including 100% of women.
>>541281634well, they depend on the boomer pastors and the government for everything, and when these boomer faggots who believe in alimony and child support die off, these skanks will be left with nothing
>>541279885nothing will ever make me respect feminists. society doesn't expect anything out of mothers and gives them everything for free. >see points from all sidesNo. when you deal with kids it has to only your side until their older. they either do what their told or get a beating, no negotiation. same with the woman but this is all illegal now meaning you just get to watch the whole lot do whatever they want and spend your money. Nobody wants kids because of people like you making all these strict laws (and nobody can afford it because of other laws) you sound like part of the problem. Scared normie parents are almost worse than libtards. turning the world into the suburbs wont produce more capable, children, in fact the opposite. kys karen
>>541280947well said
>>541281866t. no kids
>>541281388fertility rates have declined rapidly in the last 16 years. men and women are becoming like oil and water, with women becoming more liberal and men becoming more conservative during that time.
>>541279885I am going to free the soul from this prison planet loosh farm, Demiurge. You have no power here, you won't be able to make women fall on my penis and I will end this generational suffering.
>>541279885The decline of men approaching women functions like a political shock even when nobody frames it that way.It reshapes family formation. Fewer approaches mean fewer relationships, later marriages, lower birth rates, and accelerating demographic decline. That feeds directly into labor shortages, pension stress, immigration politics, and generational conflict. Governments can pass incentives but they cannot legislate attraction or courage.Second, it polarizes gender politics. Many women interpret non-approach as disinterest or resentment while many men experience it as rational risk avoidance shaped by social sanction, economic precarity, and fear of misreading norms. Each side builds narratives about the other and political movements harvest those grievances.Third, it weakens informal social trust. Approaching a stranger used to be a low-level civic act that trained people to tolerate rejection, ambiguity, and difference. When that disappears, people retreat into apps, algorithms, and identity-filtered spaces which harden group boundaries and reduce empathy.Fourth, it shifts power to platforms and institutions. Dating apps, HR departments, and legal frameworks mediate intimacy that used to be negotiated face to face. That concentrates cultural authority in systems optimized for liability management and profit, not human bonding.Finally, it produces downstream radicalization. Large populations of unattached men historically correlate with instability, withdrawal, or extremist politics. Most do not become violent but many disengage from civic life, work, and optimism itself which is politically corrosive.
>>541281742>yourI remembersl when Europeans were telling me from the other side of the Atlantic that our conservative values put us at an extreme right wing position compared to "the rest of the world". Now that it's been successfully pointed out that Europe and the British Commonwealth territories are the odd ones out suddenly you want to tell me I'm actually just a moderate compared to you euros. Lmfaooooo
>>541282076I made no comparisons to Europe. Enjoy your shadowboxing.
>>541281914wouldn't take the dad cuck for the hottest chick on earth. I have however watched guys I know try to raise families in clown world. If you have kids get ready to suffer if it isn't already happening. I have a great life and dont vote, and dont care about making more draconian BS laws. unlike you. which one of us is the extremist?
>>541282146you, quite obviously
>>541282124But you're a five eyes shill trying your damnedest to socially engineer americans into falling for the same idiotic liberal swamp that your own population was dumb enough to fall for. There's a reason America is mightier than you, and us being smarter is a big part of it.
>>541282221once again, being accused of being an extremist for NOT doing something, story of my life since 2020. you retards are all the same.>>541281964hes trying to make it our fault for not impregnating a foid and working for peanuts 13 hours a day to pay for it all.
>>541282481I'm not really accusing you of anything, but if you ask me if me or you are more extreme, it is very obviously you, yeah.>>541282415I'm just a guy describing the things I have seen in my personal life. With me, with my wife, with family and friends that have had children.
>>541281914>>541282221He's not wrong, you have to be a massive pussy cuckold to the state to be able to have a chance of keeping your family these days.Families need the Father to keep control of the household, otherwise we get single mother homes that produce more single mothers and criminals/losers
>>541282549you know, my first impulse was to reply to you with something along the lines of "skill issue, most women dont want to be single mothers, pick better mothers"but instead I did a little googling and perhaps you burgers in particular have an especially broken culture in this regard
>>541282671Yeah it is fairly fucked but you also have to remember that we have a 13/50 population (Niggers) that skewers a lot of statsGun crime in particular is mostly just niggers shooting niggers
>>541282546>I'm just a guy describing the things I have seen in my personal life. With me, with my wife, with family and friends that have had children.Taking this at face value, what you're seeing is simply the safest stance one can publicly hold without compromising the safety of their families in the current climate. The primary threat of course coming from the left.
>>541282671>but instead I did a little googling and perhaps you burgers in particular have an especially broken culture in this regardIf you dig deeper into the family court system we have you'll discover that marriage doesn't exist in the United States. Only a divorce rape contract does. The arrangement is so laughably bad, so anti-male and so anti-child, and gives the woman HYPER authority over fucking everything that you just can't call it marriage.Did you know that when you sign a divorce rape contract in the US, a woman can go to a family court and get a restraining order with zero evidence of any wrongdoing and without your consent, and have you kicked out of YOUR OWN house? Literally all she has to do is say the 'abuse' word and that's it. And you can't do anything about it. You can be forced out of your own house and away from your own kids indefinitely, and women often lie to their kids that their dad abandoned them.
>>541279885bingo
>>541280476yup
>>541282671>>541282546political extremism (the successful kind) used to be people trying to make a better world for their families. (miner strikes, unions, full revolutions/rebellions). breaking up families and making men redundant in society was the first step to preventing this. now we just have the odd tranny shooter and a few chimpouts when a nigger gets shot. you're naive and you aren't convincing anyone to drop neeting to become a foid slave.
>>541280947based
>>541281416i was gonna tell you that you're retarded, then i saw your flag
>>541282840What gayme is that?
>>541281634>women are doing better than men>murdering their own kidswewlad
>>541283120I'm not convicing anyone of anything. If you want to neet for life, whatever. Like I said, I just think this childless culture fosters political extremism. And I thought it's interesting, these pragmatic ways a child changes your mind.
>>541280947>they just had to be humble and not seek for more than the bare necessities in life.Thats also applies to men retard>Accept this lazy ass whale as your wife and form a family with herno refunds
>>541283020saved this. I was very young at OWS but I bravely fought the nypd with my old man. thats exactly what happened. the rage that happened when I watched it get slid and forgotten was as close as I ever came to doing something stupid, but I chose a different path. some people didn't but nobody ever forgot that, especially while we watched thing gets worse as predicted.
>>541283328Silver Palace. It's still in closed beta.
>>541281094>societyi avoid people, not my problem>>541281416>doing bettersome doing better now doesn't mean all, and since most americans are below the poverty belt, odds are that half of those are women, so no, they aren't doing better, they are doing worse, since they have to take care of themselves by themselves.men can survive on almost nothing, women can't even manage their finances without having a breakdown.men can survive a war of attrition way better than women can, and we're more experienced at it, having to suffer want in almost every field.i mean it when i say it, literally, no refunds.
>>541283120I think we will see it come back in full forceNo amount of age verification or flock cameras can stop the inevitable tide especially since gun control has mostly failed in America
>>541283462>Thats also applies to men retardmost men live frugal lives, nigger, and are humbled most of our lives in order to just be able to survivei dont plan on getting married, i've opted out of everything, i'm just passing time till i die of old age or a heart attack or some natural death (or get killed in trumps war of culling or w/e)>no refundsindeed, no refunds
>>541283665best we can hope for is balkanization but we'll probably get invaded after that. either way idgaf. like they said above no refunds. I like that phrase.
>>541283665I think "muh angry young men" is hardcore cope. I think, unlike in the past, the modern angry young man is pacified with porn and video games.Just look at this thread lol, you have people bragging about being neets, being disconnected from society. Those are gonna be your vanguards of the revolution?
>>541284112revolution is physically impossible. has been for almost 20 years now. again naive.
>>541279885want to increase rates of childbirth? then take away all human rights from females. including and especially their ability to initiate divorce. and make it illegal for men to initiate divorce if they have kids by a female. adultery being the only exception.also make it legal for men to beat their slave-wife.end absolutely all government handouts. Absolutely no tax money of any kind should go to the civilian populace.this establishes explicit authority and dominance which accomplished multiple things at once:men won't have to fear getting divorce raped and so can breed at willwomen actually love being powerless and dominated and, yes, even quite enjoy being beaten when they act out or at least enjoy the fact that it _could_ happen. And at any rate would be much less likely to act out in the first place. So female behavior would dramatically improve one way or another. furthermore, it would improve female appearance as men would not tolerate their slave-wives getting too fat or being too lazy. This females would not be allowed to shirk their side of the marriage contract. and since men couldn't abandon their own children then the population would improve in quality and the proportion of niggers and beaners would gradually decrease as niggers and beaners would no longer be able to breed like rabbits sage in subsidization. They would only be able to breed in proportion to their own financial productivity which is very low.I could go on, but I think you get the picture.
>>541284006>we'll probably get invadedYeah good fucking luck invading the most armed country on the planet, best you can get is probably the coastal cities but the rest of the nation would be impossible to occupy
>>541284112>Those are gonna be your vanguards of the revolution?The only people who want revolution are bolshevik-wannabes. Aka leftists.
>>541284112You retards are working hard to take that away either directly or indirectlyNever mind that enough hyperinflation and pain will push them to do what is necessary
>>541280869The people who youre arguing with on this hate women and would prefer them to be literal slaves a la islam style or worse, just keep that in mind
>>541284911I don't hate women, I just don't think we should allow perpetual children to hold political, economic, and social power.
>>541284112>Those are gonna be your vanguards of the revolution?Using this language by the way makes it perfectly clear that you are, or at least come from, a leftist stance and it's highly likely that this statement>I'm just a guy describing the things I have seen in my personal life. With me, with my wife, with family and friends that have had children.is a fabrication made solely to try and deceive us.
>>541280476We should give free childcare to women if they are raising future Americans and children should have free healthcare no matter what
>>541281388Cultural marxism and all the other isms stemming from it are the political extremism that brought us here.
>>541284988it's funny how people online always think I'm way more left than I am and people irl think I'm way more right than I am. I like to tell myself it's because I'm the most enlightened of centrists, seeing the value in all positions.anyway, I used the term because it's, you know, an established term. and keep in mind am I a dirty ESL and my enligh is the result of unrestricted internet access for the last 20 years
>>541279885Wealth not trickling down and the collapse of marriages is definitely the cause of most problemsThe part that makes it worse is how the west is too prosperous as a whole for revolution (cannot happen under even okay conditions, famine is always a prerequisite) so it’s like a slow burn. If the system had any idea of what they were doing they would be transferring wealth away from boomers right now, but I don’t think the system is competent enough to do that anymore due to how immigration has been handled. It makes the west look like an immature civilization that’s ran by children
>>541285235You're not fooling anybody, Europe is leftist as fuck to the point that even our so called "left wingers" are more to the right than you.Even then, "centrists" like you always bat for the left and try to imprison the right
>>541285235>termIt's more than a single term that gave it away lol. It's a long running meme at this point that yes, vocal centrists are just leftists trying to turn more people away from conservatism.
>>541281537>Divorce is divorce bitch, "to cut off; separate or disunite: synonym: separate">If you wanna leave, you're leaving everything behindBy that logic a bitch wife can never fuck her husband, never cook and clean, be bad with kids, and when the husband divorces he gives up everything? Not a very good deal
>>541285335I dont try to imprison the right. I think I'm a centre right to right guy. I'm german, in my poltiical context that means I would like less immigrants, I think german is a people and a culture worth preserving. I like freedom of speech and individual liberties and don't think people should be jailed for wrongthink or whatever.But chuds don't like me because I may not like immigrants but I'm not a racist and my understanding of individual liberties extends to stuff like homosexuality or transgenderism.Here you go, my diary.
>>541285469If a bitch can't leave without losing everything then she better put out.That's the idea, you can't leave easily, so make it work like in the older days.>>541285298The prosperity is going away faster than you and I may think
>>541280947wisdom remember when they are old how they treated you when they were young have no mercy and no pity for old women.indeed, do what you can to increase their misery like they heaped scorn on incels and non-chadsruin and destroy whatever they have like they did to the men they divorced for purely selfish reasons.say to their faces their flaws: too old, too fat, too ugly, too bitchy. Meme it to the corners of the earth like they did about men's height or money or whatever arrogant memes. point out that vidya and porn and boating and climbing and drinking with the lads and whatever else is vastly more interesting and fulfilling and enjoyable than being stuck with a foid all day-- like they said about choosing the bear etc. give females the compassion and mercy that they gave to you when they were young and beautiful and desirable.the pendulum is swinging.make sure that it crushes females so thoroughly that they never recover. then perhaps men will stop simping and will put females in their proper place once and for all. But at any rate they'll be repaid for the feminist bullshit of the past many decades.
>>541285606>can't leave without losing everything then she better put out.Why should she? There is nothing you can do to force her and if the husband divorces her according to your proposed system the husband would automatically lose everything. Again, you proposed these rules, im showing how easy it is to weaponize them against the man
Of course this is posted by a German. The most cucked men in Europe. What's even the lesson here? That should try to help your pregnant wife? Wow thank for the amazing life lesson here. Nobody has ever thought of that.And for funding public services it depends on what you're talking about. Are you talking about highschool or university? Big difference. I don't even know why you mentioned playgrounds. No one would be against paying taxes for some extra playgroundsAnd daycares are extremely damaging. Young kids should be with their mothers pretty much 24/7
>>541285658It's going to be great to tell these women "you're too old" or "you're too fat">>541285717A society that makes divorce dificult would also be a society that is more patriarchal to begin with.No more easy divorce also means no bullshit marital laws or domestic violence laws.Also you forget that 80% of divorces are filed BY WOMEN
>>541285717rightthis is why I said females should have no human rights whatsoever and that it should be legal for men to beat their slave-wife.if she's smart she'll never give him reason to.
>>541285658Never forget what they did to Homeworld 3
>>541279885>1. You're some lefty woman. You start walking around with a stroller and a baby, you will start to care very much about the safety and cleanliness of public transportation, public parks, etc. You will wish that someone would just take all these quesitonable individuals hanging around playgrounds or on street corners and put them somewhere else.You underestimate the cognitive dissonance of women
>>541279885Op is a faggot. This board is a psyop
>>541280200>please just be with this annoying child 24/7>you're a woman so you don't have any real hobbies so it doesn't matter that you dont have any free time anymore LOL!
>>541285776>And daycares are extremely damaging. Young kids should be with their mothers pretty much 24/7Yes, but that is a luxury most people cannot afford. We were lucky enough to have my wife stay at home for the first two years of our child, but then she had to work part time.>>541285838I am describing things I have seen.
>>541285936>I am describing things I have seen.4channers don't care. all they want to do is be spiteful and play videogames they don't even enjoy anymore.
>>541285933>you're a woman so you don't have any real hobbies so it doesn't matter that you dont have any free time anymore LOL!She can try sewing, making candles, maybe brewing beer too, the possibilities are endless when you have someone paying the bills and you're not chained to an office chair or a work site
>>541285936Me too. Most leftist women still think it is white men running around and raping them
>>541279885>You're gonna care more about funding public daycare, schools, playgrounds.Have you seen a elementary school, child care center, NHS center, or a job finding center in the UK?>70% brown>20% White Drug Addict>10% actual Brit
>>541285804>No more easy divorce also means no bullshit marital laws or domestic violence laws.No it wouldn't. there is almost no connection to no fault divorce and domestic violence laws>>541285812idc
>>541286011>She can try sewing, making candles, maybe brewing beer toodo YOU want to do that all day along with listening to a kid babble and complain that they're bored?
>>541286052Domestic violence laws are just the state giving women the power to de facto divorce their husbands by putting them in jail if they hurt their pathetic feelings.>>541286062I would take my kid to the local park or maybe a museum or the zoo.My mom did that with me and my sister on our off days or during the summer
>>541286062my sister dies precisely that. and she's never been happier.
>>541284112When people lose access to food, water, and safety, they will become feral
>>541284006>>541284674A lot of people might join the invaders considering how shitty the oligarchs have treated them.
>>541286176>I would take my kid to the local park or maybe a museum or the zoo.ok and do you want to do that every day? are you sure 15 minutes into playing with your kids you aren't going to be like 'man i wish i was playing videogames right now'?or are you assuming that womens minds are just so totally different that they enjoy hearing their kid ask retard questions or screech all day?
here is where it all fell apart. they allowed holes to have rights and to speak in public.
>>541286317It wouldn't surprise me one bitI've even joked about buying a 5.45 AK for the sole purpose of being able to use the crates of 5.45 ammo that the russians could smuggle to America in a hypothetical civil war.>>541286361It's called being a parent, fucktard.I have to make sacrifices for my children regardless, and I am fine with thatAlso whats stopping you from having your kid sit next to you and playing co-op or maybe you guys taking turns between levels?Are people so fucking stupid and coddled to not be able to think outside of the box?Also women are hardwired to take care of their offspring, even more so than men
>>541286361I don't like this portrayal of childcare as this huge negative because for one, I think it's very overblown in our culture and also, it's damaging to look at your kids this way.But the one thing I would say that people have right about childcare is that's it's exhausting. Caring for a child is truly tiring, especially when they're young. For the first year or so you're literally keeping this thing alive, then for the next 6 months when they start getting mobile you have to constantly stop them from killing themselves.Playing peekabo for 30 minutes, sure it's annoying sometimes, but it's nothing really. The tiredness is the real drag.
>>541285933Women will call their own child annoying lmao
the actual cause of the downfall of the West: women
>>541284112Isn't the first step in destroying society becoming disconnected from it. You already see the articles where woman are outnumbering men in the workforce.
Busting a huge load inside an unprotected pussy is one of the greatest pleasures on earth.
>>541286529That is why they should have no say in the matter.
>>541286561Society is dying the only qustion is how it will die
>>541286561In a society ran by smart men, they would realize that they need to get young men re-connected to society and roll back some of the retarded ideas that resulted in that messBut we live in feminist world so clearly young men are the problem and we need to further alienate them.China is going to win because even though they have some issues similar to ours, the CCP isn't stupid and is able to think long term and they WILL fix the issue
>>541285235What about the USA's misnamed Civil Rights Act that turned white men into the bottom class of society? It is required that every other category than white man be given preference over white men. Funny how long ago that was passed and just now the young white men are starting to feel the true effects of. They'd better learn how to speak as a collective if they don't want to die hungry and alone.
>>541286725>and they WILL fix the issueok, how are they fixing the male to female ratio rn?
no pussy no work
>>541286742>They'd better learn how to speak as a collective if they don't want to die hungry and alone.But they are indirectly, look at how things are breaking apart, look at how we are falling behind China in terms of technology, trade, and industry, look at how our economy is tied to the AI bubble and not to any other industry besides finance has any effect on the economy.We can't even win against Iran>>541286855So far, the best they can do is make sexbots
>>541279885I don't have enough money to date, let alone raise a family lol>hurr durr but niggers have no money and still pump out kidsUnlike niggers I don't want my children to grow up in abject poverty surrounded by bad influences and drugs. But that's enough about me. People have to understand that nothing will change even if things are returned to "normal". You can make housing, groceries, healthcare, childcare, gas, etc affordable again but the birthrates won't increase. People have already tasted that sweet sweet hedonism and would rather die before giving up their newfound freedoms. Making everything cheaper will just give them more free time and money to do what they want. This applies to both men and women. Remember that an entire generation was raised in unstable households and failing marriages, so it makes sense that a significant percentage of them do not want to get married or have children themselves.
>>541285658Gather round and listen to my story of the desperate roastie and the fumo.Being a giant weeb, I of course went to Japan and bought a fumo. As one does when in possession of soft girls, I took her out one day to go fishing in the local creek. Pic related.I want you to understand precisely what went into this picture. A grown ass man, grey hair and all, squats on a muddy bank to take pictures of what to the uninitiated looks like a doll with his Android phone.The Sun is setting because golden hour. The man, who clearly gives zero fucks, is wearing a work uniform.Perhaps this was my mistake.The man struggles to pin Suwako-kami's tiny hands to a crude fishing pole. Turns out pushing a clothes pin into wet wood is a bit of a struggle. The man is swearing and clearly frustrated. A beach bag sits nearby.This is the scene into which walks out of the literal fucking bushes a poorly aging roastie.Now the official walking path is on the other side of the creek. The whole reason the man is shooting on this side is to capture dat rustic feel. The only people typically found on this side of the creek are teenagers imbibing substances their parents would not approve of.The bottle blonde roastie whose roots are showing proceeds to introduce herself and explain she is a former beautitician. The man is confused. She goes on to offer her assistance.The man, being a bit of sperg, decides the only logical explanation for the present state of affairs is that "former beautician" implies unemployment and the roastie, having seen his uniform, is looking for work. He proceeds to list a few entry-level positions with his employer appropriate for a woman of her educational attainment, which she provided unsolicited.The roastie, having more present desires, corrects the man and asks if she can help him with his present predicament with the fumo.This woman looked fucking forlorn when I told her no. Leftover women are real and they stalk the wilderness.
>>541286722By a change of command. The Middle East/East will invade the west just go to any European Capital and you can see for yourself.>>541286725>feminist worldFunny you mention this as I lurk in a lot of "right wing" spaces and it seems like more and more woman are being updated on becoming "right wing" as Islam expands their influence. My schizo theory is that woman will be fed propaganda like usual to get young men ready to go fight in a war to depopulate the world while woman are left at home. Then they'll change how things function, woman can whore it up have kids or abort as woman will then get an option to either take care of their kid or have the state do it. The question is will young men fall for it.
>>541286855they're importing Russian women and colonizing Africa. good little ccp bots get russkie mail order brides. normies get uighur wife or a sheboon from Africa
>>541285933You're a child yourself that you would even think like that
>>541287082>colonizing africapretty sure that all fell through.
>>541286988>t seems like more and more woman are being updated on becoming "right wing"It's all parroting to try to get right wing simps to throw money at them.Women shouldn't involve themselves in politics>>541287082Uyghur women look like chinese women so it doesn't seem like a bad deal
>>541287140not literal colonies, but are they not scooping up nigger females to bring home?
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>>541285120>become liberal politician in state like maine or vermont>promote childbirth, jobs and housing for young families>coincidentally, these states are 91% white>put negro refugees on busses to boston, explain that maine doesn't have the resources to care for them
>>541286966you play with dolls??? that's pathetic and gross.
>>541287408He doesn't have a fumo
>>541279885good analysis if a bit too self-evident but better than 99% of the crap i read herethe problem is that the problem feeds itself. people don't "want to" (can't...) have children in an atomized society.
>>541287142>Women shouldn't involve themselves in politicsHonestly true and based. People forget Hitler went after the woman first to help him get into power because they're the most easily deceived.
>>541279885>ehm sweetie support the antinatalist poison that is jewish gynophilic philosophy propagating promiscuitykill yourself cicanerious fuck and she wont fuck you for this paragraphOUT WITH WOMEN FROM WORKFORCE OR WITH VOTING POWER AND UP THE SWASTIKA BANNER
>>541287142>Women shouldn't involve themselves in politicswomen shouldn't be ALLOWED to involve themselves in politics.indeed they shouldn't be allowed to speak in public at all
>>541287195>but are they not scooping up nigger females to bring home?you would have to show some actual proof of that because i've never heard of it.
>>541279885>much work it takes to have a child, raise a child, care for a child. You see that the whole "mental load" thing isn't a meme.being a stay at home dad is ez. stop listening to women
>>541287734I said none of these things, enjoy your schizophrenia
>>541287858would I rather be a SAH parent than at work? yeahis it easy? that's the wrong word. it's not hard to look after a child, but it is exhausting.
>>541287845https://www.google.com/search?q=are+Chinese+men+marrying+African+women+and+at+what+rates%3F&client=ms-android-motorola-rev2&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&aep=43&cud=0&source=chrome.crn.obic&udm=50&mstk=AUtExfDyITdNDDIfVfkIvHeUTbvxBPqq8QTjAfZwzH13h-2N1On9EbKU0HYRnoxwxj8akStjIMokzzvYrWRWeOFJJZNuBMIgyWNHqf1Y0ZiheE7MTl0uZ7G5hBDH8pBdMzzksQRJFJtzfSe2mn3dFfZK9B48iQifO0VICgI&csuir=1it seems to be a much smaller thing than I had the impression of
>>541287571baka (shaking my head) senpai (family)
>>541287966yeah i dont think china is too big on racemixing.
>>541287900cute attempt to deflect>You're gonna think that in some ways, the feminists had a pointstream your suicide
>>541279885This is literally you, faggot. Don't you dare forget that.
>>541279885wrong. brownoids and blacks and their dogshit cults like islam are causing it.
>>541288099well yeah, they do have a pointbut as I said, a lot of chuds needs to be personally invested int a woman before they start seeing them as people
>>541288205They do have a point in the sense that men like you should be enslaved, castrated and raped every day for the rest of your hopefully miserable (it's not unlikely that you'll enjoy the rape) life.
>>541288205I will never see a woman as my "equal"It's impossible just by nature.
>>541288205if you've had any experience with women you will always distrust them. go buy some feet pics and kys
>>541288311I have a wife and a daughter.
>>541288205>well yeah, they do have a pointthen killl yourself you admitted what you denied earlierNO PART OF FEMINISM IS PRO FAMILY ITS ANTINATALIST IN ITS CORE IDEA
>>541280251>I've seen her take so much BBC and lick the guy's feet and asshole on her own accord.Wtf did I just read? Who finds this degenerate stuff arousing? Why are they making it?
>>541288394well you clearly enjoy being cucked so by all means looks like the life for you.
>>541288867I don't think there's anything inherently antinatalist about feminism.
>>541288968same niggas who like BBC. they will be the first to white knight but deep down they hate roasties more than we do.
>>541283665Our love of arms is ancient, the Classics are fake and gay by comparison. We're their living expression.
>>541279885I think this is mostly correct. I just haven't met anyone who actually doesn't want kids, it's just too expensive, people are scared of bringing life into a world that is actively being destroyed, and most women find any man who is right of center completely unfuckable. It also doesn't help with the way right wing men talk about teenage girls, that would make me not want to have children with a maga conservative man simply bc it's disgusting and I'd be doing a coin flip on the babies sex. I don't want to risk marrying a man who would molest our daughter because he thinks "it's not pedophilia to have sex with a reproductively capable female".Where you are correct is that having spouses, children, a house etc pushes one to the center, which in reality is this weird mix of sensible libertarian and progressive beliefs. For example, your average American with kids doesn't think trans girls should be playing sports with biological girls, but they find the "gas the trannies, drive em to suicide" thing incredibly distasteful, simply because they have kids and actually have to deal with the possibility of their own kid killing himself. It brings it much closer to home. On the other end, like you said, leftist women who aren't the druggie hipster kind absolutely become more conservative because they value safety. A lot of leftist women are specifically leftists because they want the government to make it easier for men and women to have kids and have both parents in their life. That's the whole idea around the 4 hr work day 3 days a week.
>>541284674Yeah us vs the Injuns took 300 years. A peer to peer white man fight over this continent would either take 2,000, or end in what happened last time on this continent: the American West (Desert), the product of something much larger than a "nuclear weapon."
>>541289614You are literally the gay cockslave of some Swiss kike.
>>541288294So colorful Ivan, but in essence you're correct. I would probably just opt for a quick shot to the back of the head and then feed them to the soil. They're good fertilizer.
>>541289765I'm not saying leftist women are correct, btw, they absolutely need to excommunicate the junkies and LGBT people who think it's okay to wander into a park with fetish gear on. I don't mind transgender/gay/lesbians who actively want to participate in society, it's the 40 year old men in school girl uniforms flipping out over being misgendered, which is a thing actual trans people hate. I'll admit , the two trans women at church have grown on me, although I was incredibly apprehensive at first, but I prefer my church where we pool money and resources to help the needy people in our congregation rather than what migger churches do, which is donate their child's inheritance to a "widowed Holocaust survivor in Israel"
>>541285120Unironically this. Housewife should be seen and treated as a legitimate, respectable job. A woman devoted to her babies is doing more good than any HR manager. The main argument women use against performing their proper role is financial security, so we should make sure mothers have that.Feminism has taught them to devalue this role, and the antidote is to make them see that it is a respectable life.
>>541289956Swiss?
>>541288144Communist troon!
