Using the 10 metrics of Presidential Greatness Historians use:>Public PersuasionAwful and divisive public speaker who lies pathologically, often contradicts himself and is uniquely unable to be unifying>Crisis LeadershipHorrible at handling crises, and is one of very few presidents to create multiple ones himself>Economic ManagementAlso one of the few presidents to actively cause large scale harm to the economy via his misapplication of tariffs, wars and massive deficit spending.>Moral AuthorityObjectively the most immoral man to be elected to the office.>International RelationsHurt virtually all relationships with our allies, except Israel who he essentially handed control of our foreign policy over to, started a forever war based on lies and failed to end the Ukraine-Russia War.>Administrative skillsObjectively the worst, most incompetent cabinet ever twice in a row.>Vision / Setting an AgendaHas no coherent vision or principles other than self-enrichment and support for Israel>Pursued Equal Justice for AllActively weaponizes the law against his political opponents, is openly racist and insults Americans who are not Republicans>Performance within the Context of TimesA shockingly terrible leader in any context or era, but especially bad considering he inherited a stable country with a relatively strong economy twice in a row.
its crazy how you need proof
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>the Worst President of All Time2008: normal society2016: crazy culture war messHard to get over that.
Presidents are rated by lib tears and what they do for Isreal
>>541280033Kek dixieniggers still seething 160 years later.
And with all these qualities he's the perfect man to represent the USA. Divisive, lying, raping, abusing, untrustworthy, full of himself and addicted to junk food - truly he is Mr. America.
>>541280281If you use OPs metrics he’s way better tho>2008 economic crisis >2016 economy booming >2016-2026 holy fuck I can’t afford to eat
>>541280518>2016 economy booming"Yeah, ok, we have trannies teaching kids about gay sex in elementary schools, Antifa shooting at churches and blm burning down cities, but hey, the economy is better..."
>>541280670Most of those things happened during Trump’s presidency. BLM was in response to Trump.
>>541280910>Most of those things happened during Trump’s presidencyYeah no shit. When someone turns a country into a cultural marxist madhouse, the consequences come after he did that. It's called causality.
>>541280281>muh culture warLiterally nobody except delusional boomers cares about that. Getting us involved in foreign wars and supporting the offshoring of our industry is pretty damning.
>>541280972Ok boomer. He gave you healthcare. You should be happy.
>>541280033Miggers will seethe.
>>541280281>Public PersuasionGreat, charismatic orator who could just as authentically communicate with a non-college educated black audience in Detroit and and a forum of intellectuals. >Crisis leadershipHandled the Great Recession exceptionally well, achieved peace with and nuclear inspections of Iran, didn't needlessly escalate in Ukraine, resisted calls for regime change in Syria keeping relative stability and a sense of mutual understanding with Russia and Iran and handled the Ebola epidemic very well too. Only real downside was his handling of Libya.>Economic ManagementAgain, handled the Great Recession very well, saved millions of homes, the auto industry, expanded healthcare access to tens of millions of Americans and oversaw the longest period of growth in our history.>Moral AuthorityUnlike the current occupant, he carried himself with dignity and didn't disgrace the office, nor did he habitually lie to the American public or use the office to enrich himself. >International RelationsAccomplished the JCPOA, signed the New START Treaty with Russia, refused to veto the UN's condemnation of illegal Israeli settlements, didn't ruin our relationship with our allies and ended the Iraq War.>Administrative skillsOther than Hillary Clinton, it was a very competent and relatively scandal free administration.>Relations with Congress>Vision / Setting an AgendaObviously the GOP and Democrats like Lieberman blocked some of Obama's common sense ideas for the nation like high speed rail and universal healthcare, but he still accomplished more legislatively for the good of the nation than any president since LBJ.>Pursued Equal Justice for AllHe objectively did. He ended Bush's illegal torture regime, was not a racist and did not weaponize the DOJ to target his political opponents, unlike Trump.>Performance within Context of TimesObjectively the best president of the 21st century, wasn't perfect but handled most things well, a solidly decent president.
>>541281758That's basically a complete inversion of the truth.Well done, LoL.
>>541281890No it's not. It's objective reality from a non-partisan observer. Maybe you're divorced from it, hence your support of Trump.
>>541281890You won't even show your flag faggot why should anyone care what you think
>>541281993>It's objective realityI'm a bit tired of insulting people here, so I won't do it now.Just an advice: better stop talking about politics, it's not one of your talents.
>>541282107You're canadian. Why should anyone care what you think?
>>541282160>You're canadian. Why should anyone care what you think?meanwhile your god lmao
>>541282116I know extensively about all eras of American political history. Everything I said about both Obama and Trump is objective fact. Obama was not as perfect as liberals make him out to be, but he was the best president of the 21st century and Trump is the worst president of all time by a distance.
>>541280033Why does it matter about all time or not. He's terrible president of our time that's bad enough
>>541280033>Proof That Trump Is Objectively the Worst President of All TimeOh Boy! Another "Experts Say" thread.
>>541280033Lincoln’s “crisis management” skills led him to import millions of foreign Irish mercenaries to murder his countrymen and occupy their nation on behalf of niggers, destroying the 10th and 3rd amendment and barring his surviving opposition from holding office for life.
>>541282726>import millions of foreign Irish mercenariesThe Irish immigrants were already in the country, and both sides had many newly-emigrated Irish fight for them.>murder his countrymenYou can't murder someone in war, especially when your side starts it, and they didn't consider themselves part of America anymore.>occupy their nation Lincoln believed in immediate reunification after the war ended.>and on behalf of niggersThe Union fought to preserve the Union. Only your side decided to go to war against the country over them.>and barring his surviving opposition from holding office for life.This never happened, though you can definitely make the case it should have
>>541282615It's increasingly becoming a consensus view among all Americans, not just historians, though they were the ones who called it first.
>>541283237Anon, would you say Trump is even worse than James Buchanan?
>>541283295Definitely. James Buchanan was a bad president, but he also inherited literally decades of presidents kicking the can of sectional divides over slavery down the road. Pierce was more directly responsible for worsening the divide with the Kansas-Nebraska Act than anything Buchanan did, and a vocally anti-expansion candidate like Lincoln winning an election was always going to cause secession, no matter who the current occupant was.
>>541280033OP IS A POOPJEET GO KYS THX
>>541283646I'm not, but your VP's family are.
>>541280033Those are retarded kiked categories. No wonder no one takes any of this shit seriously anymore
>>541283982seems you can't refute what OP said
>>541283982What should the categories be then?
