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the biggest political problem in america is that millions of people have no reason to defend the system

> no house
> no wife
> no kids
> no meaningful savings
> no community
> no ownership
> no expectation things improve

then politicians act shocked when these people become communists, fascists, accelerationists, populists or just want the whole thing burned down

why would someone defend political stability when stability means preserving a life they already hate?

the dangerous population isn't necessarily the poorest

it's the population that believes it has nothing to lose and no future worth protecting

how does a democracy survive that politically?
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>glowie low key asking how to clean up their mess
Nice try, but I'm not your fucking jannie.
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>>541287905
> the guberment needs to give me a life reeee
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>>541287905
Why do you think they're putting so much emphasis on setting up an AI powered panopticon? Those dissidents who start identifying with extremist belief systems are going to be surveilled and imprisoned for it. The 2030s are going to make 1984 look like Candyland frolics.
https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behavior-2024-9
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How does it survive?
It clamps down little by little until revolutionary activity is near impossible.

The opportunity for white Americans to fight the system was decades ago. We'd be lucky if we could even get a chunk now, but only after it's gotten to South Africa levels of danger.
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>>541287905
Hopefully it doesn’t. (((Democracy))) is fake, gay, and jewish. Voting is nothing more than consent for continuing the jewed system. After the Epstein files and the AI takeover I’m flabbergasted that anyone thinks they can vote their way out of this. Everyone should stop voting immediately.
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>>541287905
>why would someone defend political stability when stability means preserving a life they already hate?
Because you're a massive fucking pussy, you can't organize for shit and you're politically powerless to do anything against the status quo
>nobody wants to defend da system
Defend it from whom? The system is self preserving if anything you need to be defended from the system.
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>>541287905
That's most of Europe also, more than half of fighting aged people would refuse to fight for their nations anymore, now consider all the brown subhumans the retarded left imported into Europe, no chance in hell, may was well immediately surrender should a modest force of well organized, well equipped men show up and the European whore women will love it, more dicks to infect them with diseases.
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>>541288071
Maybe if you didn't vote for Blumpf 3 times in a row you wouldn't have as many flock cameras eh? Who's clamping down on you?
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>>541287905
Not my problem, enjoy the revolution you caused because you couldn't tell women no.
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>>541288393
The flock cameras were coming regardless of who was in charge. If you still think voting matters beyond legitimizing the corrupt system and giving consent to be assraped by jews you’re a retard.
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>>541288071
Nigger it would be over if gun control actually succeeded
No amount of flock cameras and age verification will save the politicians from tens of millions of angry young men with guns.
Especially when they have nothing to lose.
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>>541288030
We need flock cameras to defeat communism.
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>>541287905
Idk who’s son that is but I want to fuck him if you catch my drift
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Why do you think they’re trying to replace whites with blacks and immigrants? The global proles become the new bourgeoisie. This is the inevitable result of the 18th century revolutions lived out to their logical conclusions: a world run by bankers for their dominion.
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>>541288985
And yet it's falling apart.
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>>541288966
That's sadly a biological woman and she is a Brazilian who bleaches her skin.
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>>541289223
I like those women, send them up here
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>>541287905
> no initiative
> no moral fiber
> no discipline
> no responsibility
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>>541287905
I already have a family.

I'm not starting a new one.
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>>541288393
> blames all his life problems on orange man
Tds troon
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>>541288538
This
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>>541288552
Things that will never happen
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>>541288019
the government doesn't need to give anything. the government just needs to not actively take these things away, which they have been doing
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>>541288966
Quagmire is here again
Kek
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>>541288015
It seems that you are the glowie, favela nigger, because he's right in everything he said.
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>>541288985
> bankers
You spelled jews wrong
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>>541287905

If my choices were to dismantle the system or become a communist, I think that I would just abolish systems entirely, anon.
I'm certainly not trading in one gilded cage in for a chicken coop.
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>>541289582
>how does a democracy survive that politically?
Of course he isn't lying, Hans. He's telling the truth of the matter to the best of his honest ability, and asking us for solutions. Any reply that actually answered the question he asked would only benefit zog. Luckily, most anons are just shitposting or blackpilling or derailing. Most anons are bots, anyway, so it's expected. Humans who know the answer, should keep it to themselves instead of doing the glowies' homework for them.
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>>541287905
Wow, being a dalit must suck. Please come back and explain how you feel you rotting away in mom's apartment doomscrolling social media is "dangerous to the system".
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>>541287905
Nobody will ever do shit and you're acting like democracy was supposed to survive anything, democracy is just a means to an end, it's disposable just like our luxury economy. The end goal is abolishing national sovereignty and making people hate their nation goes hand-in-hand with that. Who do you think is going to promoted to control what used to be nations? Obviously it will be economists but by that I mean corporations and their investment lackeys, nations without borders are just economic zones that are valued on the resources they can provide for the global governing power.
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>>541288552
Nah see. It's not going to be one big gun raid. They're going to do things that make them gradually more and more expensive and regulated to the point where they're useless against the government in any quantity. They've already started with ammo.
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>>541289519
Thats what they said before 1775
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>>541290079
Cope
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>>541288030
this. it's over and peoplhave no idea how bad it's gonna get. jews won. God is Good
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>>541289451
>flocktard supports the president who installed all the flock cameras
MIGArat moment
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Just stop caring.
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>>541287905
>the biggest political problem in america is that millions of people have no reason to defend the system
Yes.
This has been widely discussed for a long time, usually discussing men who can't get decent jobs and have no wives/families.
But it goes further. We now have fucktons of unmarried childless millennial women who have the same situation going on. They're less conscious of it because they're placated with constant social media attention, being a working girlboss, and because women are kind of stupid generally; but they're obvious frustrated and losing their minds without having anything meaningful in their lives like a family.
>>541288019
The government has actively been taking from us enough that we can't have lives. Your parents bought their first homes for likely less than what you paid for your first car. If printing the money wasn't enough, they also restricted new housing from going up, regulated every business to hell, and opened the borders.
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>>541290136
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>>541288538
This 100%
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>>541288538
This. Was a more public issue 20 years ago in the UK when they were putting up cameras literally everywhere. That was back when it was just a person manually reviewing footage. Now that we have the ability to do all sorts of crazy shit with the data, it's way too hard for governments to resist.
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>>541287905
no pussy no work
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I do sympathize with zoomers. We've built a system around constantly appreciating asset prices. This system is bound to eventually fail as each generation will find it harder and harder to achieve the same lifestyle as the previous.
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>>541288538
>>541290237
At least leftists are cutting down cameras at the expense of their own freedom. What are you MIGA subhumans doing? Apart from angry posting that is.
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>>541287905
It keeps doing what it has been doing, the way it got everyone under 50 into this mess in the first place. Keeps you at each others' throats while billionaires become trillionaires and rape your girls and ship your boys off to the sandbox to die for greater israel. Enjoy the ride.
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surely saving up to $4k a year will be enough?
>all social systems defunded
>prices rise to extract $4k savings from plebs
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>>541287905
https://youtu.be/mweTc7tDO3I?si=qw86Rlc2mNjdYMXn
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>>541290389
One party hates billionaires and Israel
One party loves to suck billionaires and Israel

can you guess which is which?
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>>541290336
Zoomers and millennials both had it very different from boomers and gen X. Though older zoomers had it made. They'd had the window to enter their careers right after the job market lightened up in the mid 2010's and time to stabilize themselves before COVID happened. This was also the age group that started the insane woke shit, although millennials got blamed for it.
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>>541287905
That's a dude
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>>541290344
Weird how you credit the collective left for what a select few anarchists are doing, while also calling all right-wingers pro-MAGA. You either have a pea brain or you're just a transparent shill, perhaps both.
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>>541289582
No he's not, but I wouldn't expect a stupid kraut to pick up any nuance anyway. He's calling the noticers "dangerous" and wants to know how dispite that the system that offers them nothing can be preserved.
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>>541290313
the flock camera situation nhasn't even reached it's final form yet.
the European equevalent, ANPR cameras, measure the time and calculate average speed between cameras and an automated system sends the speeding ticket to your mailbox

on topic. when Germany was recovering from the Weimar period, you got 25% discount on your house per child you concieved. 4 children and you got a free house. life can be good without greedy bankers
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It's genuinely funny how the Left was poisoned since the 1960's with all kinds of retards that made them look insufferable.
It is the Left who cuts down flock, kills CEO's and hates Pissrael.
They genuinely need a break away movement that focuses on anti-flock anti-zionist action instead of the feminist lgbt crap
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>>541290344
>muh left vs right
Anyone who still supports this jewish nonsense is a low-vibrational, soulless NPC who probably still believes voting matters
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>>541287905
Yes they survive because of the system. Maybe that's a clue?
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>>541290599
Oh yes the mythical anti-MAGA right wing faction seething from the shadows for 2 terms straight (they voted blunpf anyway to own the libs xD) ready to pop out in 2028 and vote for Vance, another MIGA rat of course
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>>541290486
It's performative. The left sucked Bill Gates and Oprah's dicks for decades. Most of the tech billionaires prior to the 2020's were varying degrees of left wing. Most of your turbo rich hollywood celebrities and pop stars were left wing.
The anti billionaire crap only kicked off with Bernie, who originally exclaimed "the millionaires and the billionaires!", then started to just say "the billionaires!" once he was a millionaire. It went into overdrive when Elizabeth Warren started doing it then taking shots at Elon Musk, who was a democrat. Once Elon shot back at the DNC, he became persona non grata and pretending the other side was the one with all the billionaires was the new narrative.
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>>541287905
Maybe if you spent your time working towards that instead of shitposting and gooning to egirls then you would have something.
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>>541290832
Oh yes it's you faggot shill again. When you get something done (which is extremely rare for right wing rats) it's WE the right wing did this.
When the left does something positive for society while you jerk off in your basement like always sides suddenly don't matter lol.
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>>541290947
>It's performative
Like when they occupied Wall Street in 2008? When the system genuinely had to send a bunch of troon retards to switch the narrative from class warfare to gender wars and LGBT crap?
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>>541291077
Responding to the wrong poster? I said nothing about anything “we” did.
Either way, you’re pushing jewish false dichotomies to keep people on the vooting plantation. Sorry, I no longer consent to this jewed system, moishe.
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>>541287905
Easy, they replace you with browner and more desperate immigrants. Have you been living under a rock? They don't have the hindsight of a better america, all they know is renting a shit box from black rock and eating slop is at least a better arrangement than what they have.
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>>541290024
Let me guess, you are a fair skinned brahim?
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>>541287905
The current government is an accelerationist government. The end goal is a USSR style collapse where we lose our reserve currency status and inflation goes through the roof this will destroy all the poor people's wealth and allow Trump and his pedophile billionaire buddy's to establish a Russian-like oligarchy and rape all of us to death for all eternity.
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>>541290945
You do know that registered democrats also voted for Trump, right? Also, nice job dodging the fact that you credit leftists as a whole for what a limited number of anarchists did. Majority of leftists are liberals, just as a majority of right-wingers are liberals, these people are fundamentally the same politically but differ on more niche social issues. Neither group gives a shit about government expanding power, they just seek to hold the reins of that power because they're federalists, liberal federalists if you will. That's their spectrum, just degrees of liberalism but there is no such thing as zero liberalism.
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>>541291668
And by poor people I mean the middle class aswell. Doctors, engineers, all of it. No one will survive this except the ultra rich who's networth is mostly in assets.
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>>541291668
>>541291735
Putin didn't have to deal with a heavily armed citizenry
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>>541291797
Yes maybe there is some hope but things will have to get really really bad before you see an armed revolution. This shit could go on getting progressively worse for decades before anything happens. Grocery prices and gas could quadruple. It isn't until the grocery shelfs are literally empty that something like that might happen.
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>>541291722
I would have credited the entire right wing for the actions of a specific right wing group but you fags didn't do shit. Also how can a right winger be liberal? You have a liberal interpretation of this word.
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>>541291797
The majority of people will literally need to have nothing to lose. And you still have to live through that entire intermediary period.
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>>541287905
I actively want the destruction of the current system at this point. Sick of seeing ((( millionaires))) and (((billionaires))) and (((private corporations))) even existing and want them all killed.
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>>541288538
Exactly. Morons acting like our phones haven't been flock cameras for years now already.
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>>541287905
>how does a democracy survive that politically?
Mass surveillance and chemical neutering
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>>541292210
>Mass surveillance and chemical neutering
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>>541292021
>would have credited the entire right wing for the actions of a specific right wing group
You already did this by claiming MIGA represents the entirety of the right-wing.
>how can a right winger be liberal?
Compromise. Since when has conservatism ever NOT capitulated to the left's liberalism given enough time? You even have faggots and trannies being normalized in churches or other institutions now, with "conservatives" defending them being there. They have blatantly liberalized over time, that's not even remotely deniable.
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>>541292210
You tried that in the USSR and it collapsed
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>>541288019
That is literally why you pay taxes, retarded muttoid. You pay taxes so your government protect you and your interests. You are so deep into the kike hole, you forgot the basic social contract out there. Eat a bullet, retarded subhuman faggot.
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>>541287905
True of any major military country
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The popular history book The Glory and the Dream made the point that the social contract in the past when the Soviet Union was a thing was that Americans would reject communism in exchange for capitalism giving Americans the highest standard of living in the world. Once the threat of communism passed, there was no longer any reason for capitalism to stick to the agreement and thus we had off shoring of jobs, Union busting, wage stagnation, cessation of pensions, Wall Street over Main Street, etc.

The return of communism as a legitimate threat may force capitalism back into the social contract..
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>>541292005
>>541292097
I've accepted that fate
I'm just waiting for the shoe to drop, the band aid to get ripped off, and the bullets to fly.
And I fear that it may not even be my fight to fight
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>>541287905
More white men have to refuse to go to work and contribute to society, lets hasten the fall. Will be easier to rebuild if the fall is not dragged on for decades longer than what we can make come quicker. Fuck society, brown invaders ruined it, and social contract is null and void. White flight and unite to build a better future for Whites.
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>>541287905
>Picrel
That's a man
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>>541292127
Well that and, the flock cameras and AI data centers are being rammed through municipalities all over the country without any sort of oversight or consent from constituents. Sure, some are backing down with enough outcry, but anyone newly elected can just asceasily be compromised. Anyone who still holds onto the belief that voting is going to solve this is a retard and likely lacks a soul.
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>>541291256
Believing what you just said isn't a left wing take in the US. That's very center/libertarian/independent/"new-right" or whatever you'd like to call it. These are basically the people the left kicked out with their insanity, and they went and formed the coalition that elected Trump.
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>>541287905
>why would someone defend political stability when stability means preserving a life they already hate?
Because Jews want you to own nothing. It's on the sign. They're not "bad" at ruling, they're bad people in general and want other humans to suffer.
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>>541288030
>extremist belief systems
and they're going to label anything other than government worship "extremist" and jail you for it
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>>541290320
>No work for pussies
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>>541290139
> blames orange man for everything he doesnt like or agree with
Trannyfaggot moment
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>>541290320
>>541290914
you morons would work for pussy lmao
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>>541290051
> democracy
Is nothing more than mob rule you dumb faggot
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>>541287905
use your overwhelming govt power to reign in the corporations and institute robust social nets for the rest. do whatever FDR did instead of what you're doing rn - the exact opposite.
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>>541287905
I was in that boat. Ended up getting bored of neet life after 6 years. Got a job and doubled my salary in 4 years. About to job hop to hit 6 figures. I still cannot afford a house and now that I actually have wealth I am afraid of committing to a woman because she could change her mind 2 kids and 4 years later to take all I own.
The real issue is the legal system that has been crafted by corporations over the past 100 years. Society has disincentivized family or real connections and risk taking. You asking a girl out could end up with a gang of zoomers trying to pedo hunt you because you grossly tried to ask a woman out that lied about her age. The woman lying and zoomers entrapping you for social media is completely legal. You taking the risk and marrying a woman can financially ruin you for decades. Your wife cheating on you however is completely legal. You could beat your wife to correct her but then you end up in jail and lose rights. Your wife can mentally abuse you daily for years with no legal option available to you besides divorce which results in you losing half or more of what you own.
The reward is not worth the risk. This society was crafted on purpose for decades because this results in the most tax dollar generation. If anything they are pissed the young are not falling for the tricks anymore. This is likely the reason they are so against abortion. Because it is creating less chances for divorce and marriage both of which are taxable events.
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>>541293802
happened during his administration doe. could have stopped it, kingly, but he didn't
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>>541287905
>how does a democracy survive that politically?
That's the neat thing, it doesn't!
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>>541287905
the government supports the people that make america shitty. THAT's the problem.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYsQE4Pxb4&ra=m
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>>541290685
This. Hate simps, hate femoids, love me boiz
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>>541287905
>it's the population that believes it has nothing to lose and no future worth protecting
that's exactly how you get your ass culled anon. you never ever win, you can only endure or get culled.
>how does a democracy survive that politically?
use case for democracy when everything is done by robots, work & defense included?
you do not own anyhing because you are no longer needed, in the grand scheme of things. not for long anyway
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>>541293880
Where did I say otherwise?
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>>541288030
But the thing is, jews want to replace whites with jeets AND add a surveillance system, what, they want to see jeets shitting all day?
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>>541292107
It will happen, richtards think bored, entitled niggers won't jump over their fences
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>>541288015
>>541289582
I agree with Monkey Bro, at least offer to pay us instead of insulting us. Pay us Niggers!!! Pay us....
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>>541288839
"We need to become the CCP to defeat the CCP" is some incredibly self-defeating reasoning
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>>541287905
Please have a dick
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>>541288019
>>541288327
>someone please remind me of what's the point of living at this rate, anyway?

the issue seems to me is productivity increased 150-350% for each worker, meaning one person does everything one postal office did in the 70s faster
yet somehow:
> no house
> no wife
> no kids
> no meaningful savings
> no community
> no ownership
> no expectation things improve

and you have to toil 8-17 +(1+1hrs transport back and forth, since previously jobs were in the neighbourhood) and add the male privilege of dying for all this?

you are more educated than any previous generation, yet waging hrs even increased (waging hrs could have been reduced to daily 1-3 hrs with the productivity increase, and maybe not take away everything???)

oh, and don't ask where the extra productivity gone or you are banned for racism



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