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Before this board became a breeding ground for fat, dysgenic incel spic retards, we prided ourselves on independent thinking and were not afraid to challenge mainstream opinions

Now that /pol/ has become popular enough, there has become established, oxymoronically, a new "counter-culture orthodoxy." Hating Israel, the government, corporations, etc. is now mainstream enough that normies will police you for not toeing the line

The majority of those who oppose data centers and surveillance do so out of a reflexive, childish defiance toward authority. If you were never opposed to other of these things prior to 2024, you are an odious example of the average human farm animal. Your feed is whatever flavor of the week cortisol-spiking, algorithm-gaming outrage bait gets forced into the empty cavern between your ears. Your shepherds are other retards on the internet who depend on you to sustain them with your limited attention spans. Your field is the great digital wasteland populated chiefly by bots and other non-human entities like indians
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It is an incontrovertible fact that crime decreases and the ability to solve crime increases proportionate to the level of surveillance a region has. Any discussion of violated liberties or of misquotes attributed to Benjamin Franklin do nothing to dispute this fact. If you put cameras up, they make it easier to solve and prevent crime. Implant LoRa microchips in everyone, then there will be a greatly diminished need for police and government. At the absolute limit of surveillance, there is virtually ZERO crime

Computing is the only viable method to transcend our base animal forms. We can not evolve using eugenics. We've reached a hard biological limit. We can not evolve any further but by augmenting or replacing what makes us stupid, filthy, stinking animals. Those who oppose technology do so on a fanciful whim, perfectly content to reap the benefits of technology, but unwilling to risk social ostracization by doing so explicitly. Cattle
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>>541296319
>>541296338
Shalom
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>>541296338
Aren't they solving less crimes in Atlanta where they have 10,000,000 Flock cameras installed?
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>>541296319
>Ahmmm akshally the surveillance state and abandonment of the 4th amendment is based and red pilled now fellow magapedes
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If a post doesnt have a fat finger mistake and is more than a paragraph its ai
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Why were flock employees watching children in a daycare for hours?

Why are there none in heavily jewish areas of NY?

Why havent we arrested any pedophiles with them?
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>>541297419
These kinds of low-information rebuttals are exactly what social media rewards. You win not by refuting points, but by raising terse objections in an arrogant tone.

Your question split into parts:
1) Why aren't niggers deterred by surveillance?
2) Why are fewer crimes being solved? ("Fewer" is used for countable nouns, not "less.")
3) Why don't 10,000,000 Flock cameras result in a higher clearance rate for unsolved crimes?

Answer:
Niggers are fucking stupid and commit felonies right in front of police officers. Of course Atlanta hasn't seen a decrease in crime or an increase in the ability to solve crime.

The fucking police are also all lazy union slobs who just want to push pencils and clock out. Of course none of the police officers are taking the initiative to solve more crimes.

There also aren't TEN GORILLION cameras. The more saturation of surveillance there is, the easier crimes are to solve. More data = easier investigation. If you disagree with this, provide a mechanistic explanation for how surveillance produces MORE crime.

Flock should be judged by its ability to solve serious crimes like homicide, abduction, etc.. These are all easier to solve with increased surveillance. No lazy fatfuck pig is going to use Flock to track down your stolen bicycle.

Finally, there is about a 10% to 15% increased clearance rate in areas with Flock cameras. You must cherry pick exceptions where the needle hasn't really moved, like peak nigger Atlanta, to disprove the rule. This is dishonest r3ddit faggot argumentation.

Yes, I used more words. Because I have more facts. Fuck you.
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>>541297419
Fewer*
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>>541296319
I hope this shilling at least pays well, for your sake.
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>>541296319
If you dont like X, then you're Y.

Fucking kindergarten level subversion. You must be a kike.
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These are great because people are going to get used to jury nullification. Then it is going to be open season on all the other bullshit.
Imagine the hilarity of jury nullification for killing judges. Long overdue in Germany, do they even have juries?
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>>541296319
Your ambitions will be crushed, and everything you have invested into this scheme will be lost.
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>>541297890
They're not doing much for the LAPD either... and their budget/manpower is later than most militaries. Maybe a billion cameras will make it work!
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>>541296319
>>541297890
Reminder that the Israeli government is shilling in favor of flock and AI datacenters, because these are the surveillance tools that zog is going to use to draft the goyim. You are literally supporting the tools that are going to be used by kikes to kill you if you support these things.
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>>541296319
You are a paid shill attempting to appeal as “one of us” and it’s fucking cringe and embarrassing
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>>541298179
Straight from the mouth of the ACLU.

They aren't doing much for the LAPD? Could that be because they were DISCONTINUED in LA by kikes and faggy liberal judges due to producing a few false positives?

>>541298240
Nonsensical, hysterical cat lady bullshit.

Flock is the most milquetoast form of surveillance imaginable, and you gullible chicken-shit conformist retards still find a way to make them out to be the new satanic panic.

What else, stupid faggot fuck? Are they being used to help traffic children into pizza dungeons? Is Flock part of the globe earth conspiracy?
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>>541296319
>a totalitarian globohomo surveillance state is le good
Fuck off kike.
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>>541298400
Stunning and brave. Free le Palestine!
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>>541296319
it's really funny how flock has no idea how to respond to the backlash. their CSO is buying ads on twitter to say they use less energy than most other things that use data centers. incredible
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>>541296319
surveillance and AI is wrong. no matter what way you slice it even if its completely futile you should fight it any way possible
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>>541296319
Shutup fag there are no incels you weird coping seething lying ass clown
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>>541296319
>supporting the construction of your digital prison is le based and redpilled, goy!
kys moishe
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>>541298372
Sounds like the cameras didn't work more than anything else.
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>Ellison was born on August 17, 1944, in New York City. His mother, Florence Spellman, is Jewish
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>>541298463
Hey 4chan/reddit. Can you believe some leftist faggot/racist Nazi is against flock. Don’t be like them, fellow white people/big chunguses. Hail Trump/Obama!
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>>541298463
It's really funny how you can be cowed into supporting your demographic erasure by portraying the opposition toward the big evil corporation as "counter-culture" and patriotic. Surveillance catches nigs nogging. Antifa hates these cameras because they're EFFECTIVE.

>>541298580
Why didn't they work?

While you're providing an answer to that question, maybe you can clarify what your stance on surveillance is: do you simply oppose Flock, or do you oppose any form of surveillance? What about private security cameras?

If you're making these posts in good faith and not simply trying to protect your ego, you won't mind having your position pinned down and analyzed. That is if you aren't just a conformist little bitch.

>>541298617
>We here at 4chan ALWAYS oppose whatever it is that we're told to oppose by other "anons." To do otherwise makes you a TRANNY.
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>>541298767
>Surveillance catches nigs nogging.
Name five times it's been used this way.
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GO AWAY
NO ONE WANTS YOU
STOP RUINING MY RACISM WEBSITE
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>>541298809
Clarell Simmons, Tyrone Biggums, Lashawnda Johnson, Tree'qe McDonnel, Sharquinda Clamont
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>>541297890
>I used more words because I have more facts
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>>541296319
>Normies now share my beliefs? Beliefs that I held for decades? It's time to change my beliefs.
retarded nigger shills are getting so sloppy and desperate
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This tech is going to be utilized in ways that will be unfaithful to OP's claims. You don't need triple digit IQ to see this. Suck my balls OP.
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>>541299015
>I believe something? Oh no, better check to see what 4chan is saying.
>Never mind. I don't believe that any more. I don't want bots to call me a gay nigger.

>>541298965
I have never lost a debate because someone posted a wojak depicting me.

You know you win a debate when the evidence raised in objection to your stance can not be corroborated and when other facts raised strengthen the conviction with which you hold your stance.

>>541299170
Problem: corruption. Solution: create a competitor to Flock. Raise the standard of accountability.

System inefficient? Rely less on moron cops to enforce the system. Hire more intelligent investigators.

NOT a solution: destroy the technology because it might be used irresponsibly at some indeterminate point in "THE FUTURE." OHHHH, SCAWYY! I'M GAWNA HIIIDE.
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>>541298767
I actually worked surveillance (both live and investigations) in a fairly large casino and what Flock is doing isn't surveillance, it's data harvesting. Two completely separate things with two completely separate goals. You glazing them just makes you look like a rube that believes anything marketers say. So, the reason the cameras aren't working to fight crime, is because that's not what they're being installed for.

Now go be stupid somewhere else. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>giving the antiwhite government more power is actually pro white
blow your brains out all over your walls
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>>541296319
>If you were never opposed to other of these things prior to 2024
I was very much against mass spying since even before the digital era. I avoided certain technology for years because I did not wish to be spied on. I was late adopting a smartphone because of the privacy implications. Even still, I only use mine sparingly.
Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking ability should be able to intuitively see why allowing the deep state to know every single thing about every single person is bad. That the potential for abuse dwarfs the proposed benefits of solving petty crimes.
>data centers
I was neutral about them until they directly led to RAM and GPU prices spiking through the roof. AI companies are being fed taxpayer money from the American government, and they're using that to buy up all of the computer hardware and price you out of a home computer. Data centers don't create jobs (their purpose is to eliminate them), and they bring no benefits to the towns they're installed in. What is so beneficial about data centers that the public ought to be happy about being forced to deal with higher electricity prices, higher RAM prices, higher water bills, noise, and pollution?
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>>541299326
Translation: you are a rent-a-cop who watched the security cameras at a Walmart.

I'm not convinced by your cited expertise. If you want to pull rank, name something more impressive than sitting on your fat stupid ass.

All surveillance requires storing and structuring data. You are making a distinction without a difference.

You are a stupid little fuck whose daddy beat the shit out of him. You write using comma splices. Your level of self-importance is entirely unwarranted, and you need to have your ass kicked immediately.
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>>541296319
retards conflate cruelty with strength
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>let me film you 24/7 or you're brown
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>>541299315
you never lost your virginity that's for sure
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>>541296338
Calling the people who don't want to live in an ideologically locked down corporate surveillance state, "cattle" is a bold retardation.
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>>541297890
>Fuck you.
Sentiment noted, fuck you back no matter what you say.
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>>541299474
>Reddit spacer complaining about commas
kek, kys kike
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>>541299315

I never mentioned anything about destroying them. What are you smoking lol
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>>541296319
This was also a million dollar idea?
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>>541299430
There is a time and place to respectfully debate overreach by private companies, corporate monopoly, etc.

However, the opposition, at least popularly, toward these technologies is not founded in the principles you cite.

Nothing dwarfs the ability to completely eradicate the majority of crime, which maximal surveillance would not just hypothetically achieve, but demonstrably achieve. One can easily imagine a highly advanced system of surveillance, colloquially referred to as a "control grid," in which every person is tracked to a very fine degree of certainty. In this system, it would be impossible to commit a crime and get away with doing so. This would deter anyone who can plan extensively and who doesn't have a short time preference or who cares about being caught. If you disagree, again, give me your mechanistic explanation for why that wouldn't work.

Flock is a separate issue entirely. These companies are all seriously flawed. You can oppose them without being an idiot, of course. If your reason for opposing them is that you believe surveillance is bad, you are, however, a complete imbecile.

*****

AI data centers are a mixed bag. There should be some publicization of the AI sector, as well as some consolidation of models. This would save money, facilitate cooperation, and lead to cheaper, less computationally expensive, and less environmentally damaging models.

Or you could just say, "Fuck technology. It's for kikes! Burn it all down!" and have your cringey r3ddit mic-drop moment.
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>>541296319
>Flock Cameras and Data Centers Are a Litmus Test for Intelligence and Testosterone
correct all high test males hate them
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>>541299794
high time preference*

>>541299815
You look around to see what manly men are doing before you form your opinions. That's why you're a bottom bitch. Your testosterone is likely low.
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>>541299815
nah, high test males at the very least question the mainstream, if not actively go against it
FLOCK BAD DATA CENTER BAD is literally all anyone seems to talk about anymore, so the high test move is to oppose that
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>>541296338
I like my animal form and i dont want to be a cuck for what you call god aka society.
Let those schabracken dictate what you can think or cannot think.
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>>541296338
>Those who oppose technology
I don't, i asked your tech what it thinks about your tech
>>The Illusion of Perfect Security: Authoritarian regimes (like China's use of the Social Credit System and AI dragnets) and highly bureaucratic democracies alike often fall into the trap of prioritizing "zero risk." They view absolute predictability and crime prevention as more valuable than abstract civic trust.
>Technological Solutionism: Governments frequently adopt AI tools under the mistaken belief that math and data are completely objective. They delude themselves that they aren't treating people like "suspects," but rather optimizing resources based on "risk data." [1]
>Asymmetric Power Preservation: For fragile or authoritarian states, widespread public paranoia is a feature, not a bug. They believe that if citizens feel constantly watched and vaguely guilty, they are far less likely to organize, protest, or challenge the ruling power. Ultimately, history shows that states which rely on total surveillance to enforce order are incredibly brittle. True state stability and the sustainability of society rely on the organic civic life and on the willing consent of the governed. When that consent is replaced by automated suspicion, the foundation of the state begins to rot from within.

>Lastly, the public realizes a system's fragility and pushes back when the high cost of compliance matches or exceeds the cost of rebellion. Political scientists refer to this tipping point as crossing the "resistance threshold." In an over-engineered surveillance apparatus, the tipping point occurs through stages of economic pressure, systemic error, and institutional failure, with the actual moment where the public "goes on the hunt" is almost always sparked by a visible, visceral tragedy that the regime tries—and fails—to hide or censor, similar to what happened during the overthrow of the Stasis surveillance regime.

There you have it, tech says you are wrong and fragile.
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>>541296338
>>541296319
Not reading that. 99% of the time this argument is made the person making it is full of shit. Counterculture for its own sake was never /pol/. KYS.
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>>541299951
You can remain a shitty animal as all the smart people merge into a God-like being and live out the remainder of the universe in perfect bliss and wisdom. Nobody wants to stop you. The problem is, you want to stop us.

>>541299954
Can you formulate your own argument? I don't want to read anyone's book right now. I just want to debate you on your opinion because you've demonstrated yourself to be a stupid annoying faggot.
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>>541297890
>they dont' solve most crimes but you should still install even more
do you have any science to back your claims up? that they won't affect or even destroy societies longer term? it affects eons old behavior, we are not evolved to deal with this shit. the way we interact was developed across fucking long span of time, without tech that can remember every single detail about you forever.

morons like you are too retarded to understand how fucking retarded they are. you're dumb and confident in your ideas, the worst combination
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>>541296319
Not even in the slightest, shill. You just spent a lot of words and wasted a ton of water to AI up that post of yours. Faggot. If you can't see how both are going to end up being used as another boot to put on the neck of regular law abiding people then you're insane. Crime still exists where those shitty fucking goverment spy cameras are up, so its obviously not to stop crime. Oh sure, we'll get some sensational article or other about how it stopped some child kidnapping! And yet, child kidnapping will still happen enmass just before the jewish holiday purim, niggers are still going to jack cars and rob people, and so long as they don't rob the wrong person (political class, jew, celebrity) then nothing will happen to them. Unless of course they're white or a regular law abiding citizen. Then fuck you. They're going to harass you to the point of exhaustion with tickets, fines, etc, etc. All shit they could be doing to politicians and cops and shit too, right this instant in fact, but don't.

If you are coming in here and trying to pretend that damn near everyone here is aware that our government hates us and wants us to be slaves or dead, then you are in the wrong fuckin neighborhood my guy. This is another attempt to oppress and demoralize a population fast growing to the point of total exhaustion with their corruption and graft and you know damn well who I am talking about or again, you're a filthy shill who is either willfully blind or truly retarded, and if the latter is the case I feel sorry for you, but you really need to find some better friends. Ones who will care for you enough to have your back no matter what because they love the kindness and truth that live in your heart. And if those things don't live in your heart then you're an animal like so many indians, niggers and spics.
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>>541296319
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>>541299954
I personally think we wont have social credit system here,
You underestimate how stupid or uninformed politicians are.
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>>541300059
>all the smart people merge into a God-like being and live out the remainder of the universe in perfect bliss
highly doubt it. it will be the most psychotic of us all. not the smartest. you imbecile. nobody's giving you godlike status or abilities. why would they lmao, are you special? lol
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>>541298179
Maybe if they shove a camera up his asshole they'll arrest him for the crime of being such a huge faggot?
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>>541300112
What we have right now at least in germany is the inability to govern or make sensible decisions because we have a bit of a straight jacket of globakism on our hands.

This inability cumulates in the afd as people will vote for them, but i dont think anything productive will come out of that. Maybe less shit from africa, at least i hope so.
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>>541300059
I don't debate when it comes to refusing shit things, a "no thank you" is enough against sane people, you can either take just a no for an answer or you are insane.
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>>541300059
Lmao the fucking irony
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>>541298870
>>Tyrone Biggums

Hokay.

Let me know when it starts seeing kids go into Comet Pizza and never come back out again.
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>>541296319
Complete lies and I hope you die and burn in hell forever.
I have been anti-surveillence forever, I have NEVER owned a smartphone for this exact reason.
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>>541300297
I saw some kind of documentary where they reprimanted some construction worker for not wearing a helmet.
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>>541300059
Your pride will be your downfall.
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>>541300059
>all the smart people merge into a God-like being and live out the remainder of the universe in perfect bliss and wisdom

Sounds like you're just a coward afraid of dying. This recontextualizes all of your prior arguments into a cowards smokescreen. You desire a surveillance state because you think it'll keep you alive long enough to ride someone elses coat tails into the singularity and a version of you can live in a digital prison for all time.
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>>541300082
>we are not evolved to deal with this shit
evolution occurs because some dude shoots his cum into a cunt before some other dude does
maybe what we are currently evolved for isn't the be-all end-all
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>>541296319
>testosterone

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF

YOU WANT TO BE A MAN? FIND SOME COURAGE THATS NOT INSIDE A FUCKING SYRINGE YOU GAY NIGGER TRANNY
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>>541300059
Stop you from doing what?
Worshipping the blind moloch and doing mindless things just because?
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>>541298372
>>Milquetoast form of surveillance
>>Its just the tip, let me fuck you in the ass, come on man? Don't be a dick! Let me fuck you in the ass! I think its just retarded that you don't want to let me fuck you in the ass even a little bit. You're such a conformist! Hitler would let me fuck him in the ass.

Thats you... Right there. Christ, you're such a fucking jew.

What are flock cameras doing about judges like that bowtie wearing faggot in pic related? They're to protect him, you know.
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>>541299903
No, the high test move is to see where all that survellance is going and to oppose that on principle. So the sheep are bucking because you're pushing too deep. You're such a fucking semite.
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>>541299882
>>541299903
>it’s high T to support your own enslavement
kys moishe and ranjeet. This is an issue that’s uniting people so it’s making (((you))) nervous, and this thread is a pathetic attempt at D&Cing and flimsily appealing to white solidarity
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>>541300059
You think you're going to merge with AI? Why, because you're one of the "smart"? How fucking deluded can you be?
Tell me, do we pick the 1% smartest cows and invite them into human society? Stupidass nigger
All the tech maximalists think they're going to be part of it. They really are this retarded. You couldn't pay a nigger to be this retarded.
Now go play with toys on twitter with Elon.
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>>541296319
Went out and smashed 10 flock niggers and tossed them on the ocean this weekend
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Thanks OP, I'll definitely be voting blue after reading your posts.
No matter who.
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>>541296319
You’re absolutely correct. These morons don’t even know what they’re upset about. Cameras don’t bother me, how they’re used does. Data centers and AI doesn’t bother me either, where they’re placed, how their run and who controls the algorithms does.
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>>541300434
>maybe what we are currently evolved for isn't the be-all end-all
you are not evolving shit with your cameras. it's just a psychotic power grab which won't do much for your average joe but will provide extremely valuable data for a few people up top, for their own agendas.
plus the humans that would "theoretically" evolve to be ok with it sound like the weakest faggots in human history. they'd be signing away their own power, for no reason really. it's a shit deal for you anon, you get a constantly growing log book and it's fully accessible at all times anytime in the future. they can pick and choose a lot of shit from there to fuck you over. because they have a lot of data. vs having nothing.
>hey look water is mainstream, Iguess I will die of thirst because normies are fine with water
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>>541300544
God watches you if you dont wear your kippa or if you have naughty thoughts about ben shapiros sister.
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>>541300420
I have no pride in anything of this world. The human body isn't sanctified. The material world is a prison.

>>541300373
>forever
AKA after you watched a YouTube video about the NSA in the early 2010s. You just became a follower at an earlier date. The same hysterical bullshit tricked you, just earlier.

>>541300294
Keep "refusing" technology by threatening those who support it. You will, of course, lose, because no one wants to return to your agrarian luddite sex festival fantasy.

>>541300143
>only le rich will reap the benefits
Where have we heard this before? Cars, medicine, computers... Again and again, all of those things became readily available for all people. This is bullshit scaremongering originating from your crab-in-a-bucket mentality.

>>541300082
Behavior is not biological in origin. There isn't a gene or brain region responsible for a specific behavior. Jumping spiders are sentient and aware with just a few thousand neurons. There are many consciousnesses inside your own.

My point? There's no such thing as "eons old behavior." There is simply behavior, which is constantly evolving and adapting. That is the basis of evolution, not fearful deference to a tradition that never was.

I give you credit for your creative attempt at stonewalling, however. "We aren't biologically adapted for technology" sounds pretty convincing if you think "extended warranty" is a good deal or that "dihydrogen monoxide" is dangerous.
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bots be like:
>"Before this board became a breeding ground for fat, dysgenic incel spic retards, we prided ourselves on independent thinking and were not afraid to challenge mainstream opinions

Now that /pol/ has become popular enough, there has become established, oxymoronically, a new "counter-culture orthodoxy." Hating Israel, the government, corporations, etc. is now mainstream enough that normies will police you for not toeing the line

The majority of those who oppose data centers and surveillance do so out of a reflexive, childish defiance toward authority. If you were never opposed to other of these things prior to 2024, you are an odious example of the average human farm animal. Your feed is whatever flavor of the week cortisol-spiking, algorithm-gaming outrage bait gets forced into the empty cavern between your ears. Your shepherds are other retards on the internet who depend on you to sustain them with your limited attention spans. Your field is the great digital wasteland populated chiefly by bots and other non-human entities like indians..."
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>>541296319
What does Sosa have to do with that
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>>541299474
You'd be in favor of some kind of regulation that makes it absolutely technically impossible and extremely illegal (on the level of treason) to use this data for data harvesting?
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>>541296338
genociding niggers and jews would have a far greater beneficial effect

yet you will never make the argument for that, curious
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>>541300795
>My point? There's no such thing as "eons old behavior." There is simply behavior, which is constantly evolving and adapting. That is the basis of evolution, not fearful deference to a tradition that never was.

Has any previous change in behavior due to a changing human environment been a bad thing that should have been better avoided?
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>>541298458
>palestine non sequitur
uh oh kike meltie
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>>541300795
>Where have we heard this before? Cars, medicine, computers... Again and again, all of those things became readily available for all people. This is bullshit scaremongering originating from your crab-in-a-bucket mentality.
no you gorilla dumbfuck, they DO NOT NEED YOU. for anything. they will use robots. it's something which your shit for brain never ever had to historically consider, ever, because there was always a need for your retarded ass. until now, when for the first time, they won't need you, for anything. thus you won't get anything in return, you have no barganing power.
is anyone giving you anything for free today? no? know why? because they have no reason to. that's why. how do you imagine this defacto state of things since forever is going to magically just...stop? do you think bezos will go like "aight bois it's time here have my shit for free" lol the absolute retardation
>>541300795
>Behavior is not biological in origin. There isn't a gene or brain region responsible for a specific behavior.
holy motherfucking shit you are really gorilla retarded. of-course there is, just because you cannot pick one doesn't mean there isn't a collection of them. at the extreme the whole collection. of-course you idiot, you cannot fly, which imposes a certain behavior. it is absolutely dictated by our biology. you dumbfuck retard..
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>>541300795
I demonstrated above that i don't refuse technology, but you shifted the goalposts when your technology caught you as the criminal instead of us, it's not agrarianism that threatened you but futuristic super sexy technology.
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>>541300905
Depends what you mean by "data harvesting."

For advertisement, building psychological profiles to exploit people, or something similarly frivolous? Of course not. I think advertisement should be outlawed.

For law enforcement? No. However, access to data should be strictly regulated. There's no regulation under Flock. However, that doesn't mean the technology can never be used. Getting these license plate readers marked a huge milestone in futuristic surveillance. People need to be shown more how effective they are, not just how the technology is being exploited by nincompoops.

Cops abuse regular license plate readers, too. No one considers that an issue.

>>541300940
I have.

>>541300984
We can't really say. Our adaptation is so dynamic that even dysgenics itself might produce a positive effect somewhere down the line. Have you considered that the downfall portion of civilizational cycles may have a eugenic purpose? This pertains also to the idea that consciousness is a nested, distributed phenomenon. Huge groups of people may adopt destructive behavior simply because it produces some unseen, beneficial effect, most easy to imagine through harsh selective pressure, but possibly extending to things like the purging of decadence from our zeitgeist of desire.
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DUDE HECKIN FLOCK CAMERAS AND DATA CENTERS!
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>>541300795
>My point? There's no such thing as "eons old behavior." There is simply behavior, which is constantly evolving and adapting. That is the basis of evolution, not fearful deference to a tradition that never was.
there is no social construct of behavior at some levels anon. you can pretend for a while and other idiots clap for you but at the end of the day our interactions are based on what one can do, that's it. the way we interact is based on how easy it is to die, to feel pain, to starve etc. all of these impose a behavior. you are not "evolving" that you retard. we're doing exactly what we've been always doing, but with better toys. the toys dont' improve the way we interact, they make it worse, since the toys are getting better and better at manifesting our shit upon the world. at some point someone will have the most powerful toy and clean the rest out.
that cannot possibly change, because the environment decides our behavior. whoever can and does it, wins, that's all there is to anything you idiot
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>>541301105
I've written a book about post-work society, so I know quite a bit about this subject. Not that this matters to you. I'm sure your conviction that we're all going to be sent to death camps is fairly unshakable. Whatever happened to FEMA, though, eh?

Genes are protein factories. Pretty ironic that such a reactionary retard sides with neo-Darwinists like Dawkeenz regarding the primacy of genes. Research the work of Michael Levin and Denis Noble.

>>541301256
You can't type entirely in run-on sentences and expect to be taken seriously when you call others idiot, stupid, dumbfuck, etc.

On the other hand, I'm being accused of being AI for typing in full sentences, with proper English.

That said, I can't parse whatever the fuck it is you're trying to communicate here. You're like a caveman slamming your fists into a keyboard. I doubt anyone else can understand you, either.
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>>541301151
>For law enforcement? No. However, access to data should be strictly regulated. There's no regulation under Flock. However, that doesn't mean the technology can never be used. Getting these license plate readers marked a huge milestone in futuristic surveillance. People need to be shown more how effective they are, not just how the technology is being exploited by nincompoops.
It will surely be harder to have it regulated if the nincompoop flock industry is allowed to establish itself first.

>Cops abuse regular license plate readers, too. No one considers that an issue.
Maybe people would think this was an issue if they knew more about it.

>We can't really say. Our adaptation is so dynamic that even dysgenics itself might produce a positive effect somewhere down the line. Have you considered that the downfall portion of civilizational cycles may have a eugenic purpose? This pertains also to the idea that consciousness is a nested, distributed phenomenon. Huge groups of people may adopt destructive behavior simply because it produces some unseen, beneficial effect, most easy to imagine through harsh selective pressure, but possibly extending to things like the purging of decadence from our zeitgeist of desire.
The flock cameras are eugenic?


And besides that, I suspect flock controversy is more about putting the fear of god into people about the existing reality of mass surveillance and data harvesting. Whether it ends up going through flock or it continues to grow through the myriad other means, the public conversation has to be about how they will definitely be and are using it to oppress you without the official sources ever having to say that it will and does do that.
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>>541296338
Dude they're getting exposed from what they are and payment is coming due.
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>>541301360
>I've written a book about post-work society, so I know quite a bit about this subject.
must be a shit book, and everyone who bought it got scammed or is a fucking idiot like you.
your book doesn't mean you know better. it at most implies you gave it a longer thought, which I doubt it vs myself.
you projected your weakness into your hopes for how it will work out, and as crutches you cling to every billionaire's post post humanism slop.

what you fail to understand is that there is no future for you and me in there, only for top psychos. they have no reason to risk it by giving you access and power for free. they are already milking everything you think you are and know, mapping your whole being, understanding how you think, how you talk, stealing your DNA from the tests you did so you see your genetic makeup, you are utterly useless in such a future. there is no need for you, you can only present a risk, be a liability, cost resources, for what? so you can plot against them? so you want some of their shit? think people in power will just give it away because they "understand" your silly childish perspective most likely created by the sci-fi movies you've seen as a child with no real translation to reality?
they won't do that anon, and you won't be able to do shit about it. what you gonna do, chimp out? that will only make the case for culling you faster you idiot.

what do you bring to the table to deserve such a thing? nothing, and above all, idiotic ideas lol
you are scarily clueless and retarded about the real state of things. along with your book's readers most likely lmao
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>>541296319
BUY AN ADD FAGGOT
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>>541301360
I don't really get this whole larp you guys are doing. No one here is buying it. The whole reverse psychology bit is completely transparent. No one on an anonymous imageboard is going to magically support dragnet surveillance, no matter how hard you try and muddy the waters with political allegiance obscurantism. You are dumb.
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>>541296319
Your post reeks of
>I liked it before it was popular, now it sucks
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>>541296338
>>541296319
>masculine smart people support giving more power to zog state.
Only a fucking jew would be arrogant enough to think this tactic would work.
Your women are whores btw. They fucking LOVE Nazi dick.
A bizarre people. Their own hubris will be their downfall.
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>>541296319
I just don't like being spied on. Never did.
I'm sorry you wrote such a lengthy strawman just to get dismantled by one line.
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>>541296319
>>541296338
jews really trying
but really failing
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>>541301360
I doubt your whiteness
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>>541301360
You wrote shit because your arguments are shit and collapse like your gay anus.
>You want to use technology to assess threats
>I entertained that argument and used AI technology to assess this threat
>Technology confirmed you are the hugest threat ever

So why are you denying technology, are you some caveman?
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>>541296319
Bowing to authority is the least masculine thing anyone can do.

Post your foreskin.
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>>541297419
Kek,

Ga is a shithole

T. Lives in Cobb
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>>541297890
Atlanta also has Shot spotter, it’s the most heavily surveilled metro region outside of the PRC.
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>>541296319
>>541296338
As a Jewish person I think we shouldn't be so hard on White people because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have been saved from the horrors of the holocaust
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>>541296319
yeah my dislike for criminals and jewish created bioweapons outweigh my dislike for having cameras look at my car
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>>541296319
>Flock Cameras and Data Centers Are a Litmus Test for Intelligence and Testosterone
Correct. Only a retard would support them.
>>541296338
>calling people who oppose a surveillance state cattle while advocating that they be microchipped like literal cattle
Yeah, you didn't think that one through, did ya, Rabbi?
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>>541296338
Let’s become hive mind like the Chinese and get rid of real capacity differentials in humans through social/capacity engineered technology? Or are you just saying let the oligarchy put shock collars on everyone and become shepherd sheep? What is the reciprocating social contract youre promoting?
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>>541301360
You still at King's?
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Why aren't there any flock cameras in the Upper-West side of Manhattan??
Asking for a goy
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>>541299474
Whoa buddy cool it with antisemitism and Reddit spacing.
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>>541304430
Quit being antisemetic we know where you are. we can see you in our flock cameras.
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>>541296338

>Camera's solve crime
>We must have them

I solve my own crime
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>>541301368
First movers don't always get to keep their monopoly. If Flock really is this dysfunctional, which it seems to be, a competitor will arise soon, likely even under a democrat, so you don't have to worry about big scary Palantir. Maybe it will be Google.

>The flock cameras are eugenic
They have the potential to be, but I'm referring more to your question about maladaptive traits in response to technology. Many of these adaptations seem negative now, but may allow us to more easily merge with technology at a later date, or even necessitate it if we become sick and degenerate enough.

>>541301676
There's no use for either of us now, so why are we allowed access to life-saving medical treatment, vehicles, aeroplanes, and so forth? You have no rebuttal for this. There "won't be a use for" me when the ability to replace parts of my brain with artificial substrates arises, and I will take that opportunity.

>>541302642
I align myself with the values of my hypothetical state. You align yourself in opposition to ideas you have been trained like a dog to whinge about.
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>>541296319
Yeah Covid-27 will go much more smoothly with unlimited surveillance to make sure no one drives in their car alone maskless or leaves their quarantine zone.

Seriously though, I wish you pro-flock faggots existed in real life so all my real bros on /pol/ could watch the flock camera footage of me removing your body parts in the street.
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>>541296319
>Hating Israel, the government, corporations, etc. is now mainstream enough that normies will police you for not toeing the line
ok, but why wouldn't I hate those things? is your entire belief system just being a contrarian?
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>>541305553
Those are just examples of various /pol/ orthodoxies that have become mainstream.

On this board itself, retards will screech at you for not hating white women, for believing Earth is a sphere, for showering, for eating vegetables...

Also, just hating israel, ignoring jews or even claiming "some jews are alright," is most definitely not bad just from a contrarian perspective. Those kinds of half-truths, half-measures are directly deleterious to the truth and serve to gatekeep it from everyone by offering a more comfortable alternative in the form of flatteringly "edgy" lies.
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>>541296338
>greatly diminished need
Oddly NEED of the function is not why it exists
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>>541305855
Identify the antecedent of "function." I can't read your mind based off of this cryptic, paratactic schizobabble.
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>>541305335
>may allow us to more easily merge with technology at a later date, or even necessitate it if we become sick and degenerate enough.
you're going to be the base materials the ai overlords use as their circuit boards for their toasters, you unconvincing d&c reverse-psychology contrarian. you should throw on a memef(l)ag since you're giving me a headache looking at my own flag peddling such 109 energy.
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>>541296319
Yes, this will certainly work OP.

>HEY! ARE YOU A MAN!! YOU DON'T HAVE LOW T?! DO YOU?!
>DRINK BLACK RIFLE COFFEE, worship israel, AND MASS SURVALIANCE IS BASED!!

Suck a 12 gauge. It's manly and not childish.
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>>541305953
>18 posts
You faggots are hilariously desperate
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>>541305733
Just to clear the baffles here: please denounce the Talmud or we'll just have to assume the very obvious conclusion.
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>>541306653
I denounce the talmud. Why do you capitalize the T in talmud? Interesting.

>>541306482
>SURVALIANCE
My sides... Please, stop!

>>541306239
Why would AI use toasters?

AI would have a use for biological brains, since ours are capable of subjective experience. AI would likely be quite open to gaining subjective experience. And this would be done through... merging. The benefit isn't as unilateral as you desperately and repeatedly claim. I mean, you can continue to slam your keyboard, but this argument will not become any more sound.
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>>541306804
>I denounce the talmud. Why do you capitalize the T in talmud? Interesting.
Because the capital T is the correct way to reference it. Can I get you to denounce the Talmud with a capital T, or are you going to play word games?
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>>541297890
You're not getting a painless execution for your crimes. Deploying psyops on civilians for pay is a war crime. You're going to die screaming after a swift trial.
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>>541306942
Proper according to whom? I don't capitalize the t, as I don't respect this text as much as you apparently do.
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>>541306804
>merging.
sorry, prole but you've been designated for the meat paste factory, to end up in the nth batch.
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>>541307017
Very nice. Thanks for contributing.
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>>541307011
Just say it. "I denounce the Talmud". Not "I denounce the talmud". Even a basic search will turn up that it is always referred to as capitalized. At this point, we know who you are, but we may as well continue playing the game.
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anything for my country, traitor.
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We are reaching kike pilpul levels not seen in reality, and only seen in this extent in fictions, such as 1984 or Brave New World. They are fucking terrified and i would be too if i was a soulless, godless demon of the tribe. Holocaust 2: This Time It Is Real. And to realize the brutal punishment of this world will feel nothing compared to what they will face in their eternal hellfire of the afterlife must be fucking horrific. You did this to yourselves.
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>>541307171
Buddy, you are wasting your time.
First off, and this it’s important, the Talmud instructs readers to denounce the Talmud.
Denouncing the Talmud is a Talmudic practice.

Second, this guy is one of those retards who thinks improper grammar makes him seem smarter. Just stop.
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>>541307325
No I think we ought to hold our rootless international friend to account here. He can type it, or we will know who he is.
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>>541296319
>Hating da joos is mainstream now, you don't want to be a normie, do you?!
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>>541296319
>Remember the old 4chan who would have loved mass surveillance?
what an ass you are
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>>541307472
Oh okay you are retarded and illiterate too, sorry I interrupted
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more surveillance will not fix the demographic changes of your society. rearranging deck chairs on the titanic after you've hit the iceberg.
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>>541307171
I’m never capitalizing the t in talmud. I, however, will capitalize the m, to emphasize mud: talMud.

>>541307566
“Old 4chan” was anti-Bush edgy Gen X culture mixed in with some humorous racism. Later lolberts began colonizing the boards. They all either became conservanormies, wignats, or turbo leftists.

So there is no “4chan culture.” Modern 4chan culture is just cancer you see on podcasts reformatted for an anime forum.

That said, this conversation is finished now. Only bots remain to feast on its carcass by generating the digestive fluid of inane procedurally generated schizobabble.

>>541307780
Not everything is meant to be a solution to white genocide. Crazy, I know. We can talk about other things sometimes.
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>>541308015
>I’m never capitalizing the t in talmud. I, however, will capitalize the m, to emphasize mud: talMud.
lol. we see you. Everyone in this thread sees you, like a chicken-smashing beacon :)



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