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If God is real why did he make bears slowly eat alive animals?

https://x.com/Know_More_News/status/2091415656797479111
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uuuuummmmmmmmmmm god works in mYsTeRiOuS ways chud
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loosh farm prison planet

the "god" of this backwater universe is yaldabaoth
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>>541301612
If they ate faster they would get a tummy ache
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>>541301612
he didn't make them like that. The evolutionary process post Eden did. This is the world you wanted, Jew. One with little interfearance from God for now.
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>>541301612
Adam green, moaning bitchy faggot
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>>541301612
>If God is real why did he make bears slowly eat alive animals?
Because this is hell nigga
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Because God is not a pussy like you
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This is a fallen world, come on man this is theology 101. We are living in the corrupted fallen world for now, after the fall of Eden.
> in Genesis 3:17, spoken by God to Adam after Adam eats the forbidden fruit. It marks the moment of the Fall of Man and the change in the human experience on Earth
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>Genesis 3:17 says: "To Adam he said, 'Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, "You must not eat from it," cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life
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>>541301612
>bears
wait untip this faggot finds out what muslims and chinks do to animals
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>>541301612
It was parasitic wasps which made Darwin question how an omnibenevolent deity could create something so sadistic. Evidently he didn't read the Bible, because god is a real asshole in that.
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>>541302455
That doesn't mean anything to these people. They don't understand the concept of a world which hasn't fallen.
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There is no greater evil than the creator.

All excuses and mental gymnastics are pure cope, period.

That being said, truth is not for the faint of heart and every heart. And that is OK.
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>>541301612
If God is real what makes you think it matches the descriptions from exoteric desert retard mythos? Trying to score a gotcha against exoteric religious people is some low hanging fruit shit.
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>>541301612
The Demiurge is real but not something you should devote yourself to

The flaws we see in man and in material reality reflect it's creators because it is created in his image
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>>541302424
this is the right answer.
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>>541302140
just shut the fuck up
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>>541301612
Rabbi Greeberg is a atheist ? because not even a pagan would say this retarded thing
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>>541302242
He is mentally buckbroken by christianity like a Jew, no matter if it is contradictory or backfires agains him
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>>541302513
lamo
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>>541301612
>Why does the plane between hell and heaven have hell interacting with it and not just heaven?
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>>541301612
>Adam (((Green)))
>aislop avatar
As epected of the yentas.
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>>541301612
no jew god is needed in this process of a bear eating some other animal and no jew god had to make it this way.
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>>541301612
Niggers will end learning (they won't) that humans are really one of the tamest animals
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Nature became violent because Adam and Eve sinned therefore Nature became violent against Humans and Animals but that was not how Nature originally was
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>>541303072
/thread
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>>541302455
>come on man this is theology 101
Adam and Eve never existed. Suffering and death predates humanity.
You have lost your theodicy.
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>>541302140
>>541302042
My conclusion essentially.

This is Satan's world. God did not intend suffering or unfairness.

Satan was all about liberation from God's oh so boring law, and doing what you want, and this cruel world is the result of his rebellion.
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>>541302502
>>541302455
ok but that's for humans
what did the other animals do?
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>>541302601
the purpose is to overcome obstacle. which we kinda did in the grand scheme of things, compared to any other animal.
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>>541301612
That faggot is engagement farming and luckily there's not enough retards to make him shekels.
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>>541301612
Why did he make indians?
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>>541301612
Never heard of the demiurgos?
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>>541302042
~This Guy Gets It~
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>>541303164
This.
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>>541303164
>>541302042
Yep
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>>541303161
Cope
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Pagankikes performatively kvetching at the wrong thing again
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>>541301612
Because god is also cool as fuck
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>>541301612
Christians will continually lie to themselves no matter what you do. no point in trying to talk to them.
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>>541302878
nigger.
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>fuck going to church, I need my weed and porn
>but atheism is played out
>let's larp as pagan like the hecking wholesome vikings
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>>541302455
>>541303117
>>541303172
According to christcucks they were vegetarians o algo
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>>541303164
Your deity ordered the Israelites to commit a few too many massacres for me to consider him blameless, along with all of his other shenanigans.
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>>541303807
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>>541302424
Intelligent post
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>>541301612
I saved a rabbit the other day, somehow this wild rabbit got through the fence into my dogs area of the yard. I heard my mom’s tiny dog go after something, so I run out. By the time I got to it, this rabbit is literally stuck between two spokes in the metal fencing, it’s literally one inch of between the spokes and this rabbit was stuck halfway in half way out, took me like two minutes to bend the spokes so the rabbit could even get the rest of the way through. But it was weird because it seemed like he had given up, was just going to let the dog eat him. He made it, lost his tail, I keep it in my pocket for good luck. He’s been spotted since, he’s doing alright.
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>>541303680
or we could larp every time we go to church and recite the apostles creed.
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>>541301612
For fun. The Big Man has to kick back once in a while and torture a few of His Creations
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>>541301612
>>541303853
you will burn in hell motherfucker
real soon alongside the kikes, faggots and niggers
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>>541303982
>the brown hands and feet of a NEET
everyday we stray further from god
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>>541301612
Why does pain and death always make non believers turn their gaze to God?
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>>541302424
torture is godly?
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>>541302140
>>541302455
>>541303164
These guys get it
Alternative Answer: God hates losers
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>>541301612

There is no supreme creator diety. The universe dies and is reborn stretching back to infinity.

Sentient beings like us have also died and been reborn an infinite numbers of times already.

Our ignorance and desire keeps us spinning round on the cycle of suffering, death and rebirth.

Luckily you can follow the eightfold path, remove your ignorance and desire, step off the cycle and achieve cessation of suffering.
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>>541304097
Half of your Bible is the Tanakh bro, which was penned by the Jews.
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>>541303853
Could've been Satan doing that.

I'm Agnostic. I am just making observations based on the possibility of God and Christian ideology. I don't know what is true, only what I hope.
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>>541304098
I’m whiter than you, the picture of the rabbits tail is just bad lighting.
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>>541304303
>Just join my nihilist cult because we reached the end of the Vedic civilization where I'm too effeminate to keep a vitalist life so the only thing left for me is to die in peace
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>>541301612
Earth was vibe coded
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>>541304258
As they say the devil ploughs the earth, but behind him God follows and plants the seeds, and without that violent tearing apart of the soil, representing us, the seeds would never be planted because our heart has been hardened like a hard soil.

So the devil might think he is tearing apart your life and causing you a great deal of pain, but ultimately he's getting played like the beast dragging the plough, and those evil acts are repurposed for planting a new, better future for you.
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>>541302513
This.
>>541301612
Read the Bible God is war like and not totally all powerful in the old testament/Judaism. Though this conflicts with new testament theology it's save to say God never said he'd make everything soft and easy for you.
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>>541304835
You don't have to join anything. If you want to keep clinging to impermanent things and staying in samsara that's you're choice.
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>>541304642
ugly proportions bony phenotype and judging by your writing autist of the midwit kind
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>>541301612

The point of evolution is to take sun + rock + time to create life. We are all part of the same rock and creatures created from it are Ouroboros, the snake eating its own tail, perpetual energy not lost but changed. The rock creatures are battling and consuming themselves trillions upon trillions of times over again and again, and each iteration leads the forms present on the planet to improve overall. The point is, once the process advances far enough along, at a certain point the planet itself will be mostly organic, and at that time will gain its own overall sentience, with individual plants, animals, and fungi then all relegated to acting as individual cells within a very large planet sized organism. That is where what we consider Gods come from, the process to creating them is scattered all across the universe wherever conditions for stars and planets are favorable to begin the rock to biological organisms conversion process. Depending on the trajectory that evolution ends up going in determines ultimately what we become, what sort or space faring cosmic entity we will exist as as we evolve further. Therefore worrying about one single animal's experience of pain is not only pointless, it is contradictory to our entire nature which innately strives for the destruction of the weak and the victory of the strong, the necessary steps needed to continue proceeding towards our ultimate biological goal. Further in fact, as we are all part of the same continually recycling biofauna, it is a part of you experiencing that pain, and it is a part of you administering it, but it is simply a process of removing the weak aspects of yourself to improve the overall whole and should not be wept for.
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>>541301612
God cursed the world to die for sinning.
It wasn't Satan who did that, it was God.
Why do atheists always think God is such a pansy?
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>>541303680
>"I am too stupid to understand that drugs and cooming are bad for me without a man in a robe convincing me that a charlatan rabbi said so 2000 years ago"
You are literally mentally retarded, and spiritually empty. Putting on a show of virtue signalling based on jewish mythology will do nothing to change this fact.
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>>541301612
Bears are Godless killing machimes
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>I should make a cool invincible murder machine that lives in the snow
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>>541301612
>man or bea-ack
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>>541301612
Who cares, nature is nature, also that bear probably hasn't had a meal in months
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>>541301612
god of this world is fire. without it we would see nothing wrong here.
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>>541304258
Why not?
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>>541301612
violence is a part of life, pussy.
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>>541302042
I hate when I see loosh post because it's most likely the case.
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>>541305650
What is your spirituality? What do you believe in?
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>>541303117
But why did they have the teeth for it ready to go?
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>>541301612
If the most horrific things didn't exist, we wouldn't have a real comparrision to how good the best things truly are. The problem is expectation and comfort, as we get more we want more, and when we have it all it's not good enough. Humans are using a high metabolic rate of energy consumption in order to survive. Our ego is directly translating into earth and health destruction. What you don't know kills you, so we have overloaded with information which is crippling us and making time more erratic. An observer effect on all knowing.
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>>541301612
>demoralization thread #210192
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>>541302042
my friend is going to sacrifice a petco gerbil to see if i get a girlfriend. wish me luck
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>>541305989
Some don't experience any "best things" in an entire lifetime.
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541301612 (OP)

> Antisemite to misanthropic retard pipeline go brrrr
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Jews lied about the Holocaust because they were angry about being forced into manual labor.
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>>541304328
you gonna burn with the kikes
your time is up
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>>541301612
If atheists wanted to debunk the christian worldview, why don't they at least try to understand the intricacies of the position first?

The fall of creation, initiated by the sin of Adam and Eve, is what lead to corruption of our nature and that of all of creation. There was no death and predatory cannibalism before Adam and Eve. Our disobedience led to these consequences.Christ recapitulates this fallen nature, hence why in the second coming all men are resurrected (whether good or evil) to await the final judgement. Your actions in this life constitutes your experience of the after life. The river of life is the river of fire. Those that love christ experience ever well-being Those that abandon christ experience ever ill-being. Protestants and Catholics have essentially poisoned normie opinion regarding true christianity.

This is the equivalent of saying Atheists come about because they like the aesthetics of a fedora. Just an infantile strawman
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His fate is sealed
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>>541301612
Bears are the retards of the animal world, and survive purely on retard strength.
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>>541306334
puppeting doctrine that no catholic nor protestant would disagree with and its completely bullshit
youll never truly understand it
you will burn in hell with the kikes and the rest of yall false christians
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>>541301612
why would Earth be like Heaven?
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>>541301612
How would retards like you make it out of the crib if God wasn't real?
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>>541306469
Why is it like hell though?
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>>541302325
>get removed from paradise
>why bad stuff???
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>>541301612
gnosticism makes it all make sense
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>>541303164
>>541303496
>>541303514
>>541303164
typical turbo-retarded coping from the same fucking morons
Epicurus blew you the fuck out with one simple observation thousands of years ago
your god is not real, and if he is real, he is cruel and evil
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>>541306334
>woman ate fruit from bad nono tree that God never had to plant in the garden because she was influenced by talking snake because she was literally created that way, therefore all life must suffer horribly because uh reasons
kill yourself
you are the anti-consciousness
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Because otherwise the cells are thrown away. When in reality is just a painful nightmare, where some day that dead walrus will be able to save his former family by murdering all of them.

Humans are in effect evil for not eating all of these animals by direction turning them into humans.
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>>541305870
go sleep in your warm bed tonight
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>why do animals that consume other animals have to do it in a violent way
its gonna be carnage regardless. choke on it
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>>541303164
>>541302140
>>541302455
So the world is good by default? Peace is the default and war is an aberration? Prosperity is the default and poverty is an aberration? Pain doesn't need to exist, at all?

Cool, so since people are all naturally good, gheir suffering must be caused by external oppression. Maybe then I can import 6 gorillion niggers from the heart of Haiti without consequences then, right? I mean surely since good is the default, then I can pour as much shit into clean water as I want and end up getting just more clean water, right?

Do you fuckers not see how your religion justifies the underlying logic communists use? The ultimate proof of this is that anywhere your religion was eradicated or never took hold, it doesn't exist. Being weak is seen as a liability and a source of shame everywhere on Earth where Christianity never dominated. Now, the people 'opposed' to you who have taken the reigns from you (yet, somehow, never organically arose ANYWHERE there wasn't already Christianity, funny how that works) fight by holding up their weakness as a badge of honor. To the woke, being weak is a sign of moral virtue. They are your children. You made them. And you deny it! As if it isn't plain to see! As if every social movement that hates Christians today wasn't led by extreme Christians 100 years ago! As if feminism wasn't invented by the Quakers! As if natural rights as a concept wasn't built on the back of a justification of being imbued with them by the Christian God!

Fucking aye, how in denial are you? China is 91% atheist and they don't allow gay marriage. They don't allow migrants. You do! And you did it while the population was still 99% Christian!
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>>541306601
Your kids can go against your will eventhough you "created" them. Would you prefer that they have no choice in the matter and were forced to follow you?
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>>541301612
They voted for it
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>>541302513
Except parasitic wasps are based and kill shitty pests. Darwin is a fag. God's open world free for all mmorpg is the greatest shit ever. Everyone who disagrees is gay and retarded.
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>>541306334
>God gives an instruction to someone He KNEW, CERTAINLY would not keep to
>Punish everyone everafter for it
this is what you wanted to go with?
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>>541302042
truthNUKE
i been saying this for centuries
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>>541306679
Holy fucking retard gay nigger. Kill yourself
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>>541306459
>protestants and catholics wouldnt disagree with

Both of these said groups think hell is some fire realm where you get tortured and poked in the ass by gay demons. Completely unlike the first 1000 years of church doctrine. Also Catholics believe that they "share with Muslims and Jews the faith of abraham". complete heresy

Eastern Orthodoxy is the one true church. Besides that, there is no other "christianity".

>you will burn in hell with the kikes

I'm sure you didn't learn that in your LGBT church with a woman pastor LOL
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>>541306601
>Women bad because they have a mind too

Adam was also at fault for being a cuck, hence why his punishment was to toil through blood, sweat, and tears

Trying growing up and getting with a woman, anon. Trust me, it's much better than fapping to animated japanese trap catboys. Mom's basement ideology
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>>541306793
>no argument
Thank you for agreeing that I AM FUCKING RIGHT between lathering your baboon-like menthol encrusted mouth on another fat one João.
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>>541301612
Because he's metal asf.
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>>541306760
Adam and Eve decided to go after knowledge of good and evil, without the virtue required to handle and properly apply said knowledge.

What we are now in is the process of tough love of acquiring these virtues (through pain and suffering).

Nothing good came easy, like running 10 miles.
I doubt you've ever run a mile though.
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>>541301612
To test our faith. Blessings to israel.
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>>541306679
>BARKBARKBARKBARKBARKBARKBARKBARK
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>>541301612
Wait this could be of great value. Drop globohomo into the grizzly death ring.
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>>541302140
What did polar bears eat before the fall? Snow?
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>>541302455
>>541302502
See >>541307113
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>>541302455
>faggot jew god creates beings he 100% knows will break the rules because thats how he designed them
>has a melty when it happens
>forces all life to exist in abject hell
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>>541306679
You haven't studied Catholicism at all, and you get your information from tabloids and bReddit, clearly. It doesn't demand any of that self destructive slop.
Don't belief if you don't want to, I'm not like the others. I care little of your desire to leap into the dark. Laugh, and grow fat.
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>>541306796
fuck the "churches" and your orthodox "church"
you will all burn in hell with eachother
you will wail, gnash your teeth and your worm will never die
you were designed to lose, nothing you can do
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>>541303164
God created it all, dingus.
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>>541307113
There weren't "polar bears". Likely some form of quadruped that had a completely different physiology, like you see in science class.
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>>541307194
>you will all burn in hell
>cept me

Based on your response I can tell you're already in hell.
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>>541301612
>if God is real then why don't we live in paradise
Hmmmm
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>>541303680
>European old gods are jewish
>jewish levant gods are White
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>>541302140
>The evolutionary process post Eden did.
Why did God create a world that would lead to cruelty and suffering?
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>>541301612
Animals are soulless non-conscious beings just there to fill the world
Humans are the only creatures that matter
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>>541301612
The world was corrupted after Adam took the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden.
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>>541301612
Nope, this is what you and your ilk has done.

Everything evil in the world is because of the non-Christian/antichrist mentality.
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>>541302502
Adam's biggest sin was listening to his wife.
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>>541307070
But what was the purpose of the test if you know the outcome beforehand
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>>541306398
I see wat you did thar
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>>541301612
if I was God, I'd fuck you up just for asking.
https://www.brighteon.com/9904545c-fb90-4e55-853f-c335e7894f42
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>>541307296
your time is up
the moving shadows shall consume you
weak motherfucker born to burn
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Before eve bit the apple all animals got along in paradise so blame it on that bitch eve for the hills we see today on earth.
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>>541303214
Nope.
Not even remotely justifies a shred of evil the creator does, not even a scratch let alone else justifies overcoming shit.

Like I said,.logic is suspended to cope, because it is what it is. However, truth is, absolutely there is zero reason or excuse or justification for this evil creator. Period.
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>>541301612

> suffering exists therefore god isn't real

leftists are always telegraphing what utter pussies they are
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What alternative are you expecting exactly, that we pop into Minecraft drum sticks

There's no way you're asking me something this dumb
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>>541308331
its about whether that god is worth following, is all
you dont even have a fraction of the hardship animals do
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>dad how come we don't turn it on solid gold when we die
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>>541307105
>0 argument
>>541307189
>proud of having 0 argument
Oh really, I misunderstood Catholicism? Which part? Better, why are you afraid to explain which part? I already know, it's because you wrote >>541302140.

Are you saying you disagree with your own opinion about how the world works, you dishonest pseudo-kike?
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>>541308331
>invent the idea that weakness is virtuous
>surprised when people become even bigger pussies to advance themselves under your own fag enabling moral code

Funny how it woke leftism never took off organically outside the Christian west.
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>>541301612
If gods not real why would you still worship the devil
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>>541307418
This is discussed in talmud
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christkikes are complete fucking idiots
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>>541303014
Best answer so far.
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>>541305020
Where's this idea from?
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>>541301612
pol has been nothing but pure shit threads like this for ten years now
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>>541308878
If god wants you to grow a pair why do your credit the push to do so to the devil?

To imply pre-fall Earth could ever exist is to open the door to being a pussy. No it can't. Pain is necessary. You'd get much further if you argued that pain IS necessary to the world and part of God's will. Don't like it, get fucked. But you can't because it violates the concept of the Fall. The Fall argues the world is good by default and taint was imposed artificially. How the fuck do you argue civilization is not the default but must be maintained, prosperity is not the default but must be maintained, and peace is not the default and must be maintained, yet cling to the Fall narrative? You told people the world was basically good, the first fascist oppressor in the form of Satan fucked the world. No da world wuz a good boi and he dindu nuffin. You tell people that, tell them weakness isn't something to shame and ridicule, and tell them they can do FUCKING ANYTHING and still be saved if they accept christ. Oh, and you also said God is all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful, seemingly not thinking the obvious conclusion from that would be that God made all his children equal. Then you act surprised when wokies take your logic to its logical, obvious, natural conclusion and act like they are somehow defying your religion when, if anything, they are just a hyper extreme branch of your religion. They may be in denial that's what they are, but they are. There is no reason to even want the things the woke want without an Abrahamic foundation.
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God is a nigger
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>>541309384
you got a cooked brain
burn in hell real soon motherfucker
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>>541306744
This.
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>>541301612
God gave polar bears free will, but they chose to eat flesh.
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>>541309384
how about i rape and kill your firstborn child then
or find whatever you find any semblance of joy in and crush it and make sure you starve but just enough to keep living
hows them apples? just for funsies, we need pain!



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