>Complete and total ban on lithography machines>Also a ban on South Korean and Taiwanese semiconductor sales to China>Same for photoresist and other semiconductor equipment No more semiconductors or electronics or any technology for the chinks. We can expect total collapse of their tech sector and their entire economy by the end of the year
>>541318333Again?
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>>541318333So pushing china again to develop their own.
bad day to be indian
Like china didn't plan for this possible scenario can't wait for the flood of Chinese chips.
>>541318333>America sanctions the entire world>Everyone ignores America and goes about their businessSad
>>541318333News in a year:>China makes the world's best lithography machine... But at what cost?>We need to give more money to Israel to challenge Chinese chipset communism>Victory in Iran just 2 weeks away
>>541318333They just finished their own last year
this is a bullshit nothingburger. i'll only consider such as real escalating happenning when:1. total chink student ban from studying in the west. Maybe allowlisted in social sciences but blocklisted in STEM2. some happenings of chink university students, researchers killed in the West. and the cases go unsolved.i only consider Dutch to be really serious when there is a killing spree of chink origin ASML employees by some suspects and Dutch government defene these suspects. Nexperia is just dutch holding back.
>>541318333>shows article about US being desperate, playing world police again, being triggered, crying and shitting themselves>hurr muh chyna is le finishedLevels of cope previously unfathomable
>>541318333>sacrifice your closest allies because you can't be competitivethis will surely end well for muttmerica
>>541318333Fucking export restrictions are childishly easy to bypass. This will only slightly set them back and piss them off exponentially more
>>541319012I thank Trump and his retarded brand of goy fascism for hastening the demise of the mutt empire.If they had stuck with wholesome liberalism they'd have extended that decline for decades longer
>>541318333Didn't they just start making that crap themselves recently?
>>541319317This>no NL you cant sell these to china>okay we'll just keep selling to Taiwan which is just china with extra stepsfor fuck sales ASML keeps hiring mainland chinks in Taiwan to maintain and run the lithography machines already there, and China already made one of their own that's only a couple chip sizes behind the best machines the west has.
>>541319459Yeah it's all over the news if you look for it, they've started making their own homegrown units this summer.
>>541318333Yeah, and nobody will sell out to the highest bidder.If we could learn anything from the UK, if you ban the crimes there will be no more crime.
>>541318333Can't have them cheap chinese DRAM, prices need to explode for US AI Companies to get profitable.
Same thing as fossil depency of the eu from russia.
>>541318333Looks like it is aimed at chinese RAM manufacurers. DUV is enough to produce good quality RAM. While western companies switched a lot of their manufacturing from DDR5 to HB2. Chinese decided to stick to DDR (can get away with less advanced packaging which HB2 requires).If chinese CXMT could expand more in DDR5 market, they could capture a lot of domestic chinese market. Which means, that less chips for Samsung, SK Hynix or Micron to export to China.It is not clear what happens after AI bubble. So, if USA manages to cripple chinese for like 4 years. It would allow western companies to re-enter chinese markets IF AI bubble collapses and demand for RAM reduces.In short term, it means that there would not be RAM price decrease in 2027 or 2028, which would come with more CXMT manufacturing capacity coming online. For ordinary consumers, it will suck.
>>541321661It's because the US is terrified of China owning the whole manufacturing stack for electronics.Once they nail semiconductors (and they will), they can produce anything they want domestically completely independently of the US and it's allies and cheaper too.
>>541318333Europe cannot afford to lose that money but I awaiting them to shoot themselves for their vassal lord regardless.
>>541321803Might be that "tech bros" have convinced D.Trump that USA being dominant in AI is vitally important. And that is not as much of what USA government are thinking. More as "tech bros" influence over government.Chinese companies already provided some free-to-use local language models with very good technical characterics. Which makes pricing policy for some AI companies less reliable. Kinda "why pay 10 USD for 1m tokens, if chinese model is free-to-use, and are 90% as good?"
>>541321803Gave second thought. Might be that part of that plan is also to "punish EU", because it issued fines to Google, because they did not observed EU privacy laws.
>>541318912They can't ban chink students. It's basically the only way to bring all the money from China back and keep these meme college institutions in business.
>>541318378They really must be done for this time!
>>541318333pretty sure the netherlands are contesting this because of how reoccurring revenue it is for asml
>>541318333also china aren't abunch pussy faggots like westerners when it comes to inconveniences theyll just power through like they always do
why does the west keep pushing china and russia to be more independent and codependent?
>>541318454>>541318640>>541319459>>54131949028nm only, still not delivered, no idea how well it can work let alone do multi-patterning.
>>541318454>>541318640>>541319459>>541319490And it STILL requires foreign parts which fall under the ban. And these items are the hardest to manufacture.
>>541318355this time for realsies
>>541318333All this talk of "China is going to collapse any minute now" only convinced me even more that they will be the next global hegemon. Why? Because if you look back at when the US was slowly rising to power, the old European powers were saying the same shit. They would go on and on about how the US isn't a serious power and we would collapse in on ourselves before gaining any real power over the world. And what happened? We became the global hegemon.It just seems like the old power never wants to acknowledge the rise of the new power.
>>541318355>>541323461First ban covered EUV and the latest generation of DUV. China could still order older generation of DUV machines.Now this bill would ban ALL equipment, parts and materials effectively killing China's domestic semiconductor industry once they run out of stock of the wearable parts and materials.
>>541318554whole world? maybe if you're brown
nobody gives a fuck anymore about your bans amerishart retard. Kill yourself eglin glownigger
Too late amerigolems.
>>541318333Why would anyone want to buy anything more complex than a t-shirt from America and its subordinate states?
>>541318333>Collapse the world economy while having no industrial capacity at home We got an Einstein over here
>>541323352>>541323424poopjeet
