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>movie literally proves that Goering's final solution document made no mention of any exterminations and the final solution was about deportation/immigration
>american prosecutor realizes he has no argument against Goering
>british prosecutor steps up and said "So 6 million jews in germany died and you're telling me you have no knowledge as the reichsmarshal?"
>"and you would still follow Hitler today?"
>case immediately won
This movie has only convinced me more than I was before that the Holocaust did not happen. It's a shame that the actors were actually really good.
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So what? This does not make the Reich any less evil
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>>541320973
>movie
>proves
You're just as bad as those plebbit fags that think Harry Potter and Star Wars are relevant to contemporary politics.
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>>541321008
It’s about truth and intellectual honesty. Who cares what you personally like or dislike retard
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>>541321008
Kike / kike controlled golem identified
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I was surprised they put the bit about blackmailing the Pope in there too. Thats how they work though, now it'll be "what do you mean we never hid it, it was always admitted"
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>>541321078
Literally the movie is just trying to justify psychiatrists, judges, and prosecutors all working together and cheating to sentence a guy they already believe is guilty. and then ends the trial with "theres no way he didnt know" despite every piece of evidence failing to prove he knew
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I remember watching the movie Denial (2016) in theatres and the whole time I was like “huh, this guy is making some really interesting questions and points about the holocaust”- and the end of the movie was just a bunch of Jews making appeals to emotion and basically high fiving each other, pretending they slam dunked this guy with legitimate moral questions

The movie literally had the opposite effect on me that it was supposed to and I’ve question Jewish priorities ever since. Even my wife was like….. this makes no sense KEK
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>>541320973
Everyone knew Jews were being killed.
There's official documents of the Einsatzgruppen openly bragging about killing at least a million.
So at that point it just becomes nitpicking about numbers, but everyone knew that tons of Jewish civilians were being murdered regardless if it was the magic 6 million number or not.
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>>541321213
The really interesting part is that Goering doesn't even try to deny the mass murders happened. He is denying his knowledge of it, and even attempts to frame it as something Himmler and Heydrich did behind his back. Saying it would be a "blight on the reich" if it was true.

and then they just don't explore that scenario it all. it sounds like it could genuinely be a plausible thing that happened even if you dont deny the killings themselves
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>>541321213
A lot of Irving's sources and theories have been straight up proven to be erroneous in the decades since and he has thus amended his position. He no longer denies the Holocaust.
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>>541321277
What does that have to do with convicting a state with "crimes" a new category called "against humanity"

That everyone knew about and didnt care until after nukes were used
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>>541321277
>Everyone knew Jews were being killed.
prove it
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>>541321326
Nobody before WW II thought humans were capable of such evil. Nazis were such beasts that people had to create whole new norms of criminal law just for them. Makes you think.
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>>541321196
Because they're sadistic. Try to understand everything everything from the lense of a sadistic god to which sadism is love and love is inherently sadistic. It's disciples and worshippers try to emulate a god that way even if they're atheists. They believe in god ,their own fictitious god.
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>>541321409
Humanity committed crimes against me (out of sadism)
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>>541321409
Truly activates the almonds, the more I hear of this Hitler fella the more he sounds like a real jerk
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>>541321316
That’s actually really interesting. I wonder if he did it out of guilt, feels resentment, or really believes he shouldn’t be questioning anything about it now?
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>>541321465
Maybe he’s tired of getting slandered by jewish media all day and night for being an honest historian and just focuses elsewhere
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>>541321465
After years of death threats and gentle corrections to his life he decided he was entirely wrong
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>>541321465
>>541321528
>>541321529
The last time I checked, he still has a revisionist view of it and may still deny gas chambers and/or aspects of Hitler's involvement. But he admits at least 3-4 million Jews were murdered.
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>>541321409
>>541321465
By far, the biggest obstacle to questioning the historical narrative about the Holocaust is the fact that if it *did* happen the way they said it did, it would feel like an evil thing to just deny that it happened.
>>541321413
Yes, at the end of the movie it shows how Julius Streicher's execution was botched and his neck did not snap upon being released to hang, so the executioner had to go down there and pull his body down into the noose. What it fails to mention is that they chose this shitty executioner on purpose in order to make the hangings more painful for the condemned.
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>>541321557
3 million was too little,they should've murdered more ,Valerie
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>>541321557
90 million people were murdered in ww2
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>>541321605
They're still alive today. Sadistic people like the YouTube channel "world history" which hijacks the term (they bribed YouTube) and only talks about WW2 and nazis 95% of the time. They're a wicked pest hopefully their sadism will be their own unmaking. They're so obsessed about WW2 lol.
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>>541321557
>no legitimate state order
>no extermination chambers
>lots of jews died

The position of every "denier"
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>>541321409
Are you retarded? Same as history didn't start on October 7, history didn't start at ww2 faggot
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>>541321665
We did the holocaust and we're proud. Come kill us bitch. The angels will destroy you one day. You'll be no more but s bunch of ash
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>>541321922
I dont want to buy anything go away gypsy
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>>541322115
You can't buy your whore mother's virginity back
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>>541321213
>He took his first redpill in 2016
Hello newfag
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>>541321605
>>541321649
Streicher should not have even stood trial next to people like Goering, Hess, or Speer. He was a random /pol/tier tabloid article writer who never held any government position, who was sentenced to death for writing articles encouraging persecution of Jews. It's like they just grabbed some schizo off the street and made an example out of him to prove not all speech is tolerated. and yes, he was seen as a schizo insane person by the other nazis. Goering said that he had only ever read 1 page of "Der Sturmer" and that "it was sufficient."
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>>541322353
They will kill all of us. Remember that when they push you off a 10 story building or hang you. It doesn't matter how when and if you die. What matters is the truth. God is truth there's no blemish in gods light and no amount of Jews and or sociopaths will change them. Laugh at them and spit in their face.
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>>541321306
Goering was in charge of all the concentration camps.
He knew.
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>>541322201
rammstein is cringe AF and lefty coded.
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>>541322443
Goering was in control of Luftwaffe and maybe maybe 50 food courts all over Germany that sent him food . He was too busy fondling his pet jaguars/tigers to lead death camps. You're thinking of himmler
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>>541322443
That conditions were bad and people were dying, or that there was a conspiracy to turn jews into soap and shrunken heads (as displayed during denazification)?
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>>541320973
Niggerberg unironically.
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>>541321277
>Everyone knew
>There's official documents
What's next Shlomo, you're going to say "Studies show"? The funny thing is, whenever anyone asks to see any actual evidence of the holocaust, even documents, suddenly it's nowhere to be seen. At this point the only people who actually believe in the holocaust are boomers and the retards who are still getting covid booster shots.
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>>541322558
The delousing chambers have higher cyanide levels than the execution chambers because it just takes more to kill lice, you chud, and they did it this way for reasons
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>>541321277
>There's official documents of the Einsatzgruppen openly bragging about killing at least a million.
These were mobile SS units with minimal supervision fighting on the eastern front, and it had nothing to do with the concentration camps.
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>>541322443
Goering was not in charge of the concentration camps, that authority was delegated to Himmler and Heydrich, who answered to Goering as he was the Reichsmarshal. But that does not mean Himmler was simply administering the concentration camps as Göring's subordinate in the ordinary chain of command. Himmler had more control over the SS than Goring did.

Himmler was the head of the SS and, from 1934 onward, held almost complete control over the concentration-camp system through the SS apparatus, and threw his subordinate Heydrich, the Gestapo as well

it is totally plausible that the SS was carrying out mass executions, without Goering or Hitler even knowing. And Himmler was even negotiating with the Allies behind everyone elses back as well, so the idea that he would do things without their permission is not unprecidented. Hitler learned of Himmler's actions on April 28, 1945. He was furious and publicly stripped Himmler of his offices and ordered his arrest.

nazi germany was not a pyramid scheme. there were many people vying for power, with their own areas of control
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>>541322443
>>541322895
Himmler had enough power to stage a coup on Hitler if he wanted to. As the leader of the SS, the Gestapo, the entire police apparatus of Germany, and Interior Minister. the idea that Himmler answered to Goring is laughable, especially when he gained control over the Gestapo by supplanting Goring's leadership of it.
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>>541320973
>You must believe the written words over cross-corroborated proof!
Sure nigger, ya dindu.
Managed to make commies, imperialists and liberals agree on a thing for the first time since ever with all three producing mountains of proof you desperately try to struggle against... but look the guy who did it wrote something!
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>>541320973
You didn't need to wait until 2025 when some scared kikes make some clumsily done propaganda reinforcement movie that gives it away anyway
You could just ask yourself if 6 gorillion jews died, how come they're everywhere like cockroaches and mosquitos ?!
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>>541322626
>in order to kill the Jews the Nazi must climb on top of the roof with a bag of pellets and drop them through the hatch
>zero reports of Jews turning colors from Jews by said pellets due to cyanide poisoning
It’s so tiresome
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>>541321277
>tons of jewish civillians were being murdered
Proof? It would actually be based, since the third reich was a bit too gentle with their punishment of jews.
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>>541320973
>This movie has only convinced me more than I was before that the Holocaust did not happen
Isnt that a good thing?
Shouldnt you be reccomending this movie if thats the conclusion it leads people to?
I havent seen it but if what you're saying is true it sounds based.
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>>541321316

Enjoy
>David Irving Dropping Some Red Pills
https://odysee.com/@Kelamaty:9/davidirving:3
>CHURCHILL'S WAR - DAVID IRVING
https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/C9z1fCgUn5If:a
>David Irving: Adolf Hitler
https://odysee.com/@Fascist-Freddy:1/David-Irving-Speaks-on-Hitler:1
>David Irving on Heinrich Himmler
https://odysee.com/David-Irving-on-Heinrich-Himmler-(12014):1
>David Irving: 1994 Goebbel's Diaries
https://odysee.com/@Fascist-Freddy:1/David-Irving-Goebbel's-Diaries-1994:e
>David Irving Discusses Rudolf Hess - November 2013
https://odysee.com/@AvaWolfe:d/David-Irving-Discusses-Rudolf-Hess---November-2013:e
>David Irving - Speaking Frankly (2009)
https://odysee.com/@scoobyburn:1/David-Irving---Speaking-Frankly:a
>HITLER'S WAR BY DAVID IRVING
https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/hitler-x27-s-war-by-david-irving-2005.mp4:e

Also I believe at his website, they have a few autographed copies of his books available.
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>>541321073
Brownoid spotted
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>>541321665
It's actually quite simple: Polish and Ukranians wanted (((bolsheviks))) dead and the Germans let them. THIS is the truth behind the so called "Holocaust".
Notice how (((school history books))) say "nazi" or "SS" but not "Germans": this is because in those countries, hundreds of thousands were SS volunteers.
As for the motive, it is also quite simple: (((bolsheviks))) killed these people's relatives en masse by intentionally causing the deadliest famine the world had seen.

tl;dr the Holocaust was just rightful revenge for the Holomodor.
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>>541325010
Forget your memeflag?
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>>541321213

>Denial
Picrel is the REAL ghoul face Deborah Lipstadt
portrayed in the movie by mischling Rachel Weiss
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>>541325201
>she's ugly, therefore bad
wait til you get a look at 99% of the anons on here
just a bunch of dysgenic incels complaining about other people's physiognomy
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>>541321695
I remember reading a book in high school, it might have been Night or one of the other propaganda books. Anyway there was a part where is described German machine gunners tossing jewish babies in the air for target practice and that was the first time I began to doubt the official narrative. Like the pic you posted, I think these things are going to be looked at with more scrutiny soon, and I always think about the laws governing what you can say about regarding this incident, because it's so true.
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>>541325464
The shit in the pic he posted literally does not exist outside that meme. There is no source for that.
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>>541321008
That is exactly and unequivocally what it does. The most evil thing they're accused of isn't true and that doesn't make them less evil?
Are you retarded?
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>>541325642
>The most evil thing they're accused of
They murdered significantly more Slavs than Jews.
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>>541325464
Night was proven to be fabricated btw. The same kike released a new book recently that he called his memoir which was completely different than Night and when people called him out he responded
>Ohhhhh Night?? You guys thought that was real??? Hahaha, no! That was fiction, new book is real though. Buy now goyim.
In so many words.....
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>>541321008
They're evil by default.
Even their laws against animal cruelty were evil because they held back Science, cut into the profits of zoos, and German Shepherds would run around with poop on the end of their uncropped tails.
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>>541321034
This
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>>541320973
Fun fact, this movie was only released on Blu-ray. No regular DVD release. Nor has it hit TV.
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>>541325543
See >>541325795
This is actually common for these types of claims when they get proven false. They're digging themselves a big hole by doing this.
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>>541320973
>the final solution was about deportation/immigration

CU CKS !
FUCKING BUCK BROKEN GOYIM !
APOLOGIZE !
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>>541320973
>no threads full of screenshots of fat nazi russell crowe yelling

what the fuck happened to this place
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>>541320973
>American believes fiction is reality
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>>541321665
A fraction of the claimed number of jews died of typhus and starvation in labor camps in the midst of the most destructive and deadly war in human history.
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>>541320973
Dont lose wars.

Its likely that if the USA had been on the losing side of WW2 our leaders would have been hanged for the japanese concentration camps (later renamed internment camps) and the holocaust of the atomic bombings of Japan.

History does not care about right or wrong. Only about victory and defeat.
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>>541321196
>psychiatrists, judges, and prosecutors all working together and cheating to sentence a guy they already believe is guilty
that's what literally every piece of media about the american justice system is about, why are you suddenly upset about this?
I'm dead serious, every single american film or show about a count room case I've seen is literally just two sides arguing semantics and trying to spin some sentence into a win for their side
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>>541325201

Not what I said.
She is ugly but wraps herself up in hypocrisy and dishonesty, and malicious behavior.
And framing the point within the "non-fiction" movie Denial, she is masked by the use of Rachel Weiss, as relevant as using PeeWee Herman to portray an Arnold Schwarznegger character.
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>>541324340
It ruins the fantasy learning about the effects of hydrogen cyanide and the implausibility of it being used in mass murder chambers.

Zyklon Ben Garrison becomes Delouser Ben Garrison
Generation Zyklon becomes Generation Delouse
And Zyklon Don becomes Zion Don
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>>541325010
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>>541325727
that's not evil, slavs murdered significantly more slavs than anyone else
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>>541326466
That is not typhus. That is starvation.
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>>541325727
Right that's why trump personally teabags any American that dares deny the Slavic suffering of WW2
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>>541326466
But, but Wikipedia told me so!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B
>Zyklon B was the trade name of a cyanide-based pesticide invented in Germany in the early 1920s. It consists of hydrogen cyanide (prussic acid), as well as a cautionary eye irritant and one of several adsorbents such as diatomaceous earth. The product is notorious for its use by Nazi Germany during the Holocaust to murder approximately 1.1 million people in gas chambers installed at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, and other extermination camps.
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>>541326576
>That is starvation.
Wrong.
Ask Ariana Grande, she knows everything.
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>>541322626
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>>541326582
He should
>>541326530
Not during WWII
The Nazis killed an absolute shit ton of Russian civilians and POW's
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>>541321316
And it has nothing to do with the continued state-level harassment and murder of his sister.
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>>541326040
> Under Stalin you get a traditional family
> Under Lenin you get women that must satisfy you on demand or they are enemy of the people
> Today we got no traditional family and women only satisfy on demand the top 10% of chads
We truly got the short end of the stick in all regard
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>>541320973
Nuremberg was a victors' tribunal with a predetermined political framework. The verdicts themselves were literally decided in advance.
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>>541320973
ew anglicized hollywood film
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>>541320973
Holocaust did happen, but jews were not the target. Poles were targeted to be killed in Polish operation of NKVD, AB Aktion, Intelligenzaktion, Sonderaktion, Katyń, Wołyń and many other exterminations that did not include any camps.
And some jews died - yes, ones like Korczak, who was jew but he said "I am polish first, then a jew" - zioniss nad jews hate Poland and Poles for this. That jews weren't the ruling class, but Polish culture made Jews into Poles. Those Jews who were Polish and spoke Polish were actually and factually exterminated. The leaders of Judenrats and gettho maintainers who didn't speak polish, only yidish somehow managed to live through whole war.
Holocaust is jewish hoax where they were perpetrators of it, killing those jews they did not want in their zionist future.
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>>541321008
Are you seriously asking would the holocaust not happening make the third riech less evil??
If so yes.
The holocaust is literally the entire basis of labeling the third riech “the most evil regeim in history”
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>>541321008
>Nuremberg was a victors' tribunal with a predetermined political framework. The verdicts themselves were literally decided in advance.

Funny how they could've used the trials to establish once and for all exactly what the National Socialists did in their time in power, but decided to listen to an old Jewish American woman's made up story that 18 Million jews were killed
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>>541326808
Lenin and Stalin and whole communism is the reason women are in workforce. Their propaganda was targeting family and making women go to work.
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>>541321196
How could he know something that never happened
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>>541320973
I find it ironic the Germans got a trail but the Japanese didn't. Oh yea because instead of a trail they gave the US their experiment results.
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>>541320973
Movies made on this topic do the tight rope walk of getting the narrative out there without leading the public to question the circumstances of the Holocaust. The movie 'Denial', like the trial itself, makes the narrative about David Irving's own racist behaviour because you can't prove that something that never happened happened but you can prove that David Irving once said something racist.
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>>541321277
LMAO the Einsatzgruppen was the Communists killing jews it's well known it was pinned on germany afterwards
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>>541321409
Yeah, before ww2 everything was sugar spice and all things nice.
When Vlad impaled 20k ottomen and lined them along the roads he knew the Ottoman empire would march down; that was just bants. The ancient Greek's Brazen Bull punishment, just for laffs. The nordic blood angel; lulz.
We've always been horrible to each other and ww2 was no different. Just an industrialization of those efforts.
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>>541321316
Which sources were eroneous, name them, every one. You make a statement like that you need to back it up. IMMEDIATELY. if you don't back it up IMMEDIATELY, then you are lying, and if you saidf this in front of me I would kill you, I would beat you uintil you are dead, do you hear me you fucking KAFFER
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>>541326808
>> Under Stalin you get a traditional family
Until they were killed by either nazis or soviets
> Under Lenin you get women that must satisfy you on demand or they are enemy of the people
Which made Russia an even weaker country until Stalin took over and ended that nonsense.
>> Today we got no traditional family and women only satisfy on demand the top 10% of chads
Because there are more important things in the world to worry about then who a white woman fucks. Like Jews running the USA and about to cause WW3.
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>>541321409
Bolsheviks would like to have a word
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>>541321196
Come on buddy, obviously there's no way he didn't know
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>>541321409
>Nobody before WW II thought humans were capable of such evil.
>Laughs in Italian Communism
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>>541321557
Where did you check this? KAFFER LIAR
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>>541327008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Military_Tribunal_for_the_Far_East
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>>541322201
If his mother was a virgin she wouldn't be his mother
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>>541327158
He didn't know because there was nothing to know.
It didn't happen.
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>>541327215
>Due to a U.S. cover-up, Japanese leaders and scientists involved in its biological warfare against China and forced human experimentation, including Unit 731, were given immunity in exchange for assisting the United States biological weapons program. Some of these leaders were convicted by the 1949 Soviet Khabarovsk war crimes trials.
And how many Germans got the same treatment?
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>>541322657
And the number was 50 000 civies killed, majority by Soviet Communists.
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>>541327360
Also I find it very IRONIC the USA of all people sending war criminials to court but their own. Like the sgt who committed the Biscari Massacre. Or Emmitt Till's own daddy who raped and murdered Italian girls.
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>>541321008
You believed in Santa Claus until you were 12. Your opinion on anything is irrelevant, you vaxmaxxed fucking moron.
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>>541327360
Quite a few. Operation Paperclip.
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>>541327435
WOW ONE WHOLE NAZI WHO FOUNDED NASA!
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>>541327215
Afaik those trials were political bullshit. They got a few token guys at the very top but the lower level officers who actually ordered and oversaw atrocities against civilians and POWs were let off.

Also guys like the unit 731 guy were granted immunity because the Americans considered them valuable
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The Nuremburg Trials should be treated with skepticism anyway since it was the victorious party in a war trying the people they just defeated on whether or not they were bad guys. Even absent anything else, obviously the victors are going to be highly motivated to find their opponents guilty of being evil monsters and quite immune from much actual pushback from the defense; whatever the defense can muster when stripped of all resources and in the power of their accusers.

If you were a third party with no emotional connection to the proceedings and just heard that the Allies put all the Axis officers they just beat on trial, you'd immediately think
>Oh, a show trial.
And if someone told you that no no no, this one time in history it was actually a real trial that was fair and everything, you'd want some really solid proof that was true before believing it.
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>>541327477
Do you seriously that was the only one? Why are you talking about this if you know so little about it?
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>>541321465
Irivng never denied "the Holocaust" in that he denied that large amounts of Jews were killed. He denied "the Holocaust™" in which 6 million and exactly 6 million Jews were systematically killed in intentional genocide. He still doesn't believe that. He nust says that he doesn't deny the Holocaust to get the Jews off his back. He's given recent interviews on this very topic. His issue was always with the verifiably false claims made by mainstream Holocaust historians.
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>>541327360
A shit ton of German scientists got that treatment.
Are you serious right now? We knew we needed them to get the upper hand against Russia.
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>>541320973
Based thread OP. Thanks for baking
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>>541325464
Even as a kid, far far from being skeptical of the whole narrative, I found it extremely difficult to believe a passage in which Wiesel described enduring a forced march while barefoot, starving, and barely dressed for 17 or so miles through deep snow. Little me immediately thought "no way that actually happened".
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>>541326722
>The Nazis killed an absolute shit ton of Russian civilians and POW's
First off: Bull Shit
Second: You say that like it's a bad thing
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>>541326812

This.
Read the transcripts.
Better still watch the recordings. Note how the judge prevents the prosecuted from even giving his answer on several occasions.
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>>541327959
>Second: You say that like it's a bad thing

What are you some kind of NAFOtroon? What did Russian civilians ever do to you?
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>>541326273
>sides arguing semantics and trying to spin some sentence into a win for their side
this is how justice works. but they made up international court for nuremburg so they could try league of nations 2, the UN, which has catastrophically failed as no one cares about the defensive principles anymore. the UN is entirely useless as of 2020. geopolitics is entering a new third phase of league of nations failure, UN failure. next will be EU failure.
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>>541326576
True.
The meme needs fixing.
Whoever made it probably got typhus and typhoid fever mixed up.


>>541326586
Only a total rube-stein would believe Wikipedia on a politically charged issue.
There must be at least a few dozen corpses laying around somewhere that would respond to Prussian Blue staining if hydrogen cyanide was used for human extermination.



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