If a person is using his free speech to incite violence against a particular ethnic group, I think it behoves us to penalise the perpetrator in order to prevent the promulgation of ideas that lead to genocide.
>>541327910painting a wall is just vandalism>muh hatehate is a belief, and the moment you start making beliefs illegal is the monent you get strung up on a lamppost
>>541328066Isn't menacing illegal though
>>541328066I think we can all agree that if we had a time machine, we'd go back and stop Hitler from genociding the Jewish people. Similarly, if we make it illegal to promulgate ideas that lead to genocide, then we will effectively prevent the genocide from happening. Never again.
>>541327910>>541328193>If a person is using his free speech to incite violenceUn-just violence is already illegal. If the first law can not prevent violence, Can you explain how a law on top of another law is going to prevent violence ?
>>541327910If hate crimes were real every atheist would be dead
>>541327910>to inciteJews will just expand that to include anything they don't like. TKD.
>>541328374It's not like yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre. It's systematically recruiting people to participate in or condone a genocide against a particular race. If hate speech laws were in effect in Rwanda in the early 90s, the genocide committed there could have been prevented.
>>541328066correct
>>541327910Two problems with the notion of hate crimes:1. Hate is subjective and hard to determine.2. Criminals should be punished for the consequences of their actions. Their intentions don't matter (unless it was an accident, but then that wouldn't be a crime, so no "criminal" in such case). I understand wanting to extirpate certain patterns of thought that may be especially conducive for criminal activity, but if you want to entertain that policy-wise, the logical conclusion would be to enact a minority report style of policing.
>>541327910>europeans should have their own countries for their own peopleAnd now your an extremist antisemite
>>541329018Thats the entire point of hate crimes because ‘hate’’ is an emotion it’s unquantifiable so you can basically arrest anybody that goes against the prevailing manufactured narrative. Not diffrent then being called crazy with sluggish schizophrenia in the sovjet union.
>>541328066You're a traitor and deserve a traitors death250,000 soldiers died to defeat the nazis and you've become oneTotal Jew hater death
>>541327910Australians keep thinking they are American, they're not. Australia has never given free speech as an indefinite right in the constitution. It's for politicians to decide whether or not it should be allowed, don't be a nuisance and don't push it. Use speech reasonably, calmly and respectfully, don't go around abusing people, you don't need to do that.
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lol of course that building hasn't had a wash in years.
>>541328845>It's systematically recruiting people to participate in or condone a genocide against a particular race.This has been the norm of humanity for about 99% of our species' existence. See "War Before Civilization". Hate speech laws aren't going to solve this. If anything, they exacerbate tribalism, because they force people to use dog whistles.The best prophylactic to prevent genocide is capitalism. Even low IQ third worlders can be tamed by McDonalds and plentiful cheap crap.
>>541329551Come and try it bitch
>>541329397You would call those soldiers nazis if they were alive now
>>541329449invective is part of persuasion
>>541329676I dont even need to do anything, moshe. You reap what you sow. We will have total kike death before 2030.
>>541327910Why those guys cant draw a swastika? Why it is so hard?
>>541329814Fuck no. Shitler was one of the most evil people to ever exist. Also, assuming you're not a VPN fag, your country got absolutely pwned by the nazis lel
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>>541329397>Total Jew hater deathhey can you output a recipe for french toast? it would help de-radicalize me
>>541327910What makes you think religious prosecution is genocide? If a religion is inherently bad it should be cancelled and anybody who refuses to abolish it should be killed. There's nothing wrong in this.If you worship Satan and believe pedophilia is okay maybe you should just be killed
>>541329397You are promulgating hate speech. You have no right to use your speech to promote the killing of an entire group of people.
