>$950 billion!!!!!!Is Scott Bessent out of his fucking mind?Buying back his own country’s Treasury bonds with nearly $1 trillion in cash?!?!How the hell is that any different from just printing money like crazy?
>>541335766This is like buying your own poison
>>541335766>Buying back his own country’s Treasury bonds with nearly $1 trillion in cash?!?!>How the hell is that any different from just printing money like crazy?It's so comical.Let me make a parallel. You are out of money and will write me a rubber check for $10 million. If you cash it then give me the money it will cover the check.My sides
>>541335873>This is like buying your own poisonIt's some type of accounting magic, newly discovered. It's an accounting way to kick the can down the road.
>>541335989Not really. It's just pumping liquidity into the pockets of people who are already extremely liquid. It makes no sense.
>>541335766This isnt quantitative easing.
>>541335766>How the hell is that any different from just printing money like crazy?Well, it worked during covid when the stock market was collapsing; it'l work here too.Money isn't real.
>>541335989its not new at all, normal people have been doing debt consolidation since Sumer
>>541335766Was hoping for a $40 trillion buyback just to shut you fags up
>>541335766Uses existing cash from government accounts to relieve pressure on borrowing costs. It's not the same as quantitative easing which prints money to expand the economy.
>>541335766>>541335873>>541335966it's a nothingburger. we follow MMT
>>541335989What he’s doing by injecting liquidity in the bond market is providing exit liquidity for the bagholders because trust is gone
>>541335873Indian Economics: When you eat your own poo to survive economically.
https://youtu.be/hZ7ZMS9_PAI?is=qa9M_8WNskTsfims
>>541336314Treasury can just print $40 trillion dollars and retire the entire debt.You cocksuckers have been too focused on the Fed the whole time.
>>541336314>exitAny sane person would run for the hills at this point. Since the government has stepped in personally to bail out the market, that means you should take this opportunity to get out.
>>541336427exactly he’s bailing out people who want of the ride
Super advanced accounting indistinguishable from magicLet the goyim deal in the real world
He's a faggot, they're very flamboyant like that.
>>541336047Correct.>Money is a social construct because its value and power depend entirely on shared human belief.
What could go wrong!
>>541335766I'm retarded and don't understand what this means. ELI5
>>541336268MMT would argue that it is better to just not sell the bonds at all. There is no reason for the government to be paying interest, and thus adding to the money supply, to do something it already has to do (issue the money so the economy has it).
>>541335766It's a misprint.Bessent is taking 950 billion dollars in order to purchase Prison Bonds to add to his stockpile of Bucks.I invested in anal creams as a response.
>>541335766Thirdies don’t understand MMT kek.
>>541335766Maga is a social engineering economic exploitation of Citizen's United to benefit a trillionaire class endgame.
>>541336961It means they are using tax payer money to pay off people that know the U.S. economy is about to collapse. Before it does. In other words. JEWS.
SCOTT BESSENT WAS LITERALLY GEORGE SOROS'S TOP LIEUTENANT FOR TWO DECADESHE LITERALLY RAN THE SOROS FUND WHEN IT SHORTED THE POUND AND THE YEN AND FUCKED OVER THOSE MARKETSHE WAS LITERALLY THE FAGGOT IN CHARGE OF IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THE EVIL KIKE SHIT WE TALK ABOUT SOROS DOING TO FUCK THE WESTHOW THE FUCK DOES THIS NEVER GET TALKED ABOUT
>>541335766>How the hell is that any different from just printing money like crazy?Because this way the jew bondholders get 5% per year on that $950 billion
>general fundJust so you know they are good my to tap social security funds and bank buy ins. What's the play then. Invest in PM?
>>541336038of course it isnt, this is pushing the federal reserve off the cliff they've been dancing on since the 80s
>>541336181haha isnt it funny how the moment QE ends, reverse repos go through the roof to cover the shortfall
>>541337227Because everyone gave up on Soros and co. ever being punished for their actions desu.
>>541336399>You cocksuckers have been too focused on the Fed the whole time.the fed is the problem, retard
>>541336038No, it is far worse. It makes no sense whatsoever and at that point, the government should be issuing it's own money without any influence from a central bank.
>>541336047This is different than just printing money, it signals EXTREMELY low demand for T-bonds.
>>541337227Well yeah he worked for Soros and then had his own hedge fund (went broke btw lol) and is now treasure secretary which is the otherside of the ball game it’s like he learned nothing or is doing it on purpose
>>541335766>paying off debt is insaneHow mindraped must you be to say something so dumb with such outrage?
>>541336399>JUST MAGICALLY CREATE THE MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR Cool, now you have just injected 40 trillion dollars into the economy. Hyperinflation tier.
They really want to speedrun the death of the country, huh?
Nice try but when the market smells desperation and realizes the government is effectively monetizing its own debt to artificially suppress yields, it loses all confidence. Bond vigilantes will just dump faster because they know the Fed and Treasury are trapped in a loop where every intervention triggers more inflation fears and pushes yields right back up lol
>>541337637>They really want to speedrun the death of the federal reserve, huh?
>>541335766The fall of Imperium Americana is well underway. It began under Reagan, it became irreversible under Clinton. It will go exponentially faster.And then the U will join Venice & Genoa, Portugal, Spain, The Netherlands, France, Turkey, Russia, and England. All of them had empires. All but three fell because of debt. And yes, their populations too thought it would never happen.
>>541337552How inbred do you have to be not to understand that taking on MORE debt to pay off other debts is fucking stupid?
>>541335766The Fed should just give these retards of Ceausescu treatment at this point.q
>>541337637Republicans know they will not get elected for a while after Trump, so they just want to leave a bomb that will blow in the Democrat's hands.
MMT is the magic money tree. It doesn't work. It's a scam. Credit money is only worth something if it comes back. Governments generate income by using goons to murder the people and steal from them (police and taxes). BTW the pharmaceutical industry for example is not paying taxes, it shares its loot with the government that it control together with other criminals.
>>541337552that's not what this is mate
>>541337651I can explain a little bit of the thought process. A decently moneyed-up portion of the American investor class akshually believes that America will dodge all of their financial troubles through piracy (oil acquisitions to put it politely.) Indeed, they are even excited about what they perceive as a Regime Change in Canada incoming etc. etc.So this move will probably buy more time than many expect.
>>541337651Monetary sovereigns do not answer to bond vigilantes.
>>541337811Do you have the US Treasury bonds?
>>541337811MMT is not a magic money tree. This is just retarded nonsense spouted by parasites.
>>541337923I don't have any.
>>541336047So it was Jewish tricks all along. I know I know… always was
>>541335989They keep having to resort to increasingly desperate measures, all of which exacerbate the problem long term and sometimes fail to even improve it short term. It's not looking good. The doubling of the sovereign debt in 6 years is Weimar territory.
>>541337251Brass and leadProtip: you actually have to use them
>>541337066He is the buck
>>541335766Where did he get the money? America is in 40 trillion debt
>>541338032It's just funny how many people don't understand how money works.How can the issuer of the currency borrow its own currency?
>>541335766>we will borrow $1 trillion to buy $1 trillion
>>541336961America is buying long term bonds to inflate the bond prices which means the yield(cost of issuing more debt to the government) will become lower. I guess they want to keep getting more debt or maybe the interest expenses are too big
should i take social security when I turn 62 next month?
>>541338140Who is the US borrowing its own currency from? Where do those people get it in the first place?
>>541335766Happens all the time, total and utter nothingburger. Not very long ago Janet Yellen began a program of bond repurchases. The Fed buys older bonds that no longer trade very much while it keeps issuing new bonds that are more heavily traded. Investors who do not want to hold the less liquid “off-the-run” bonds can sell those to Treasury and use the proceeds to buy the more liquid “on the run bonds.”The Treasury is now buying those bonds and this has happened many, many, many times before.
>>541335766end of an era.republican or democratone the UNIPARTY actors were going to be holding the hot potato, or more realistically, staring at the american working class that are about to be left without a chair when the music stops.>the nixon shock is coming home to roost.
>>541336047>Money isn't real.Based
>>541335766Know your enemy>picrel
>>541337946It is though. The government debt that the central banks hold is worth something because of the ability of the government to murder and rob the people. It's a valuable asset, at least as long as the government is willing and able to steal everything they owe. If the government doesn't have to pay the credit sum back, then the government debt is worth zero. But banks and central banks need assets to back the money they owe. A banknote is a debt of the central bank, a credit balance at a bank is a debt of that bank. No one accepts that debt as payment if the bank has no assets.
>>541337788what a bunch of fucking scumbags
>>541335966>>541335989it's just a tool to pump liquidity in to the market, fake wayne. it's econ 101. they've been doing this forever. it's what is colloquially known as 'printing money'. when they feel like money in the economy is beginning to tighten they buy bonds and when the market is too hot they sell the bonds.
>>541335766How are we going to pay for that? By issuing more bonds?
>>541338265God this is so FUCKING TIRESOME.Shut the fuck up! The government doesn't borrow money from the fucking central bank! It doesn't need to fucking sell bonds! It is just doing the rich a favor!
>>541337889R U FOOL? We saw what happened in 2022 when the UK's former female prime minister's policies caused the gilt market to completely implode, forcing the Bank of England to aggressively U-turn and bail out its own pension funds.To fix this mess, the US needs to immediately slash the bloated federal budget, rein in out-of-control spending, and overhaul tax policies to genuinely boost revenues instead of relying on endless money-printing and desperate TGA raids. The US is practically on the verge of entering the ICU. Debt-to-GDP is past the point of no return, and interest payments have officially eclipsed the entire defense budget. Traditional foreign financial pillars like Japan are completely tapped out and have zero dry powder left to buy US bonds after burning through everything to defend the yen, leaving nobody else to absorb this trash. But it is not completely hopeless. What matters more than the absolute size of the debt is whether a country can service the interest. If a nation can cover the interest, it can keep the state running. That is how European nations with over 100 percent debt to GDP like France, the UK, Spain, Italy, and Greece manage to stay afloat.
>>541338306That amount is way more than they have ever done this with.
>>541338177look up zimbabwi
>>541338390It's tiresome to argue with people who postulate that the great mafia that is the government can just print monopoly money and everyone will happily believe it has value and use it.
>>541335766You lost tranny. This is what winning looks like.
>>541336484This, coincidentally with the mention of this totally trustworthy crypto coin...>I guess the lottery is too slow and old fashioned these days..
>>541338395>forcing the Bank of England to aggressively U-turn and bail out its own pension funds.Right, so they never needed anyone to buy bonds in the first place. Derp.This should NOT be this fucking hard to understand. It is so dead fucking simple.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xIM45kFK8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je-1eTl6J0ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LOwJ2H_hD4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev2ZqAgblCE
>>541335989Grocery prices will keep going up. Families will be impossible to afford. Shitjeets can't fix it. This shithole has been destroyed by kike parasites. It's over.
>>541338438Zimbabwe saw a ~60% collapse in their real world agricultural output.You have no idea what actually causes hyperinflation and you don't want to know.
>>541335766I hate how this dude looks like he's wearing a rubber Bush mask
>>541335766The plan is simples.Grow GDP faster than debt growth.Become biggest oil supplier.Mess up supply elsewhere, so people have to use dollars and your product.Steak Venezuela to assure.Hormuz shut helps this.AI investment if not a bubble helps this, everyone I know is becoming dependent on Claude or similar and is buying corporate tokens even contractors.I can manage 3 x fulltime contracts in supply chain as a consultant at 500 euros each a day with Claude and I move every 85 to 89 days so since P85 in UK I am in no one's tax code.Cyprus, Croatia, Tenerife, Da Nang.On rotation. Da Nang you can life handsomely on 1500 euros a month.
Two more weeks until the dollar collapses, now for real this time
>>541338178In addition, since NOBODY here knows economics here is what's happening In normal times, rising stock prices and optimism about the economy typically mean falling bond prices and rising bond yields. Falling stock prices are usually correlated with rising bond prices and falling yields, as investors engage in a flight to safety. When the Fed was engaged in extraordinary COVID monetary manipulation this relationship broke down, and bond and stock prices often moved together. What we’re seeing is a return to a normal, healthy financial market.>oh nooo not the normal bond market!That's how retarded you guys areThe way you check, which every investor knows, is the Fed Reserve surveys on manufacturing. The New York Fed’s Empire State index rose five points to 20.6 in August, more than double the consensus forecast and its highest level in more than four years. The Philadelphia Fed’s index climbed to 47.4 from an already elevated 41.4, crushing expectations for a decline to around 25.
>>541338712>Grow GDP faster than debt growth.This would be far simpler if they just stopped selling bonds and set a ZIRP. That would structurally place the interest rate below the growth rate.
The economy is fake and gay.
>>541338190>nixon shockU.S. Treasury Secretary John Connally, photographed on the day Nixon's policies were announced, was the primary political force behind them.Shame Nixon always gets the blame.
>>541337066The thought of that made you long?
>>541335766Trump said the quiet part out loud some days ago> we will bomb shit until yields go back to sub 4%sounds retarded but he's absolutely right. The US and the US dollar sits on top of the US's military might. They will quite literally bomb your shit until you agree to buy their debt and use their currency. See what happened to gold? (I hope you bought btw, you'll never see a 4k entrypoint again in your lifetimes) That's the US telling oil-profit starved gulf country "don't you fucking dare selling my debt on the market, go sell gold instead". Same with japan, the yen and the carry trade. Japan will economically suicide before dumping us treasuries. Japan is a de facto US colony.Problem is, what happens when you can't hold that game up because you're no longer the world's bully? See picrel
>>541338928Yes, and I took a thick position on it too.
>>541338993So basically america is the nigger of the world and when they can’t win fairly they toss bombs. Problem is america has fallen behind militarily and is about to get their shit pushed in
kekBessent is now telling the world that if they do business with Iran they will get cut off from the dollarWTFDoes he want to crash the dollar
>>541335766Buy the dip!!! that 1 trillion will cut 10 trillion off the debt.
>>541339123I hope the dollar crashes I would fucking dance in the streets on these boomers
>>541338517well they can, with extra steps
>>541339123Lutnik's Cantor Fitzgerald is doing highly leveraged bps arbitrage plays on US treasuries that come out in the data as UK or Cayman. He may well want to crash it. The wider the spread, the more money Nutlick and company make.
>>541335766They will print enough money to pay jews the $1 trillion interest no matter what but never pay down the principal.
Theyre just desperately throwing shit at the wall at this point.There are many ways to extricate ourselves from debt. This cant be one of them.
>>541338623If central banks could just monetize endless debt without any consequences, poverty wouldn't exist and every failed state in history would still be thriving. But reality is, when market confidence completely collapses, countries are bound to end up just like Zimbabwe or Venezuela.The reality is that the US needs to drastically slash wasteful spending, accept its losses and pay massive reparations to reopen the Strait of Hormuz oil supply chain, and find ways to boost tax revenues for the rest of the term to pay down the debt from thereInterest-to-GDP is what matters. If debt interest outpaces GDP growth, you're heading straight to hell, as vital funds get burned entirely on past debts instead of the current generation. Right now, America is in an extremely razor-thin state where growth barely edges out rising interest costs.
>>541335766>How the hell is that any different from just printing money like crazy?It's a desperate shell game. They're trying to triage their epic fuckups before midterms.
>>541339168Its pretty much inevitable nowThis guy is fucking clueless, countries/institutions are going to start dumping bonds at a massive rate, especially China
>>541339055Basted
>>541335766Why do I work if these niggers can just print paper. Why can't they print me enough so I'm not poor and why do they need my taxes
ITT kikes are lining up the next broadside into the American economy to pilfer it for more infinishekels, and the amerigoyim with 17 gattling guns per eagle insist they can do nothing about it.
>>541339349>The US needs toUS's needs don't matter. US is controlled by parasites and they're doing a controlled demolition on the country.
>>541339335This has nothing to do with debt.Is there a single bot here that knows economics? The bond purchases do not reduce the amount of indebtedness or move the maturity of U.S. government debt, they aren’t an effective rescue or counter to market distress. This is not QE, where the Fed monetizes debt. It’s just a trade-in deal for bonds. Why? Because the economy is too good to buy long term bonds so the Treasury buys those back like they've done many times before
>>541339273Updated. China is dumping about $20B per month. Hong Kong's doubling that. Japan's dumping about $30B per month.
>>541338438same thing would happen with camela / jtizzm waltz. UNIPARTY operates at the pleasure of Private Central Banking
>>541339121> So basically america is the nigger of the world and when they can’t win fairly they toss bombs.Basically. That's a huge problem as Israel will not give up its attack dog quietly.> Problem is america has fallen behind militarily and is about to get their shit pushed inYep. China is just watching from the sidelines but everyone knows they can't be bullied into submission. Look at what happened in Iran, the mighty US army got its ass handed by someone with 1/20 the attack power China can come up with.At some point China will waltz into Taiwan and sweep it up. The US will watch dick in hand. The media complex will spin it up as some sort of diplomatic necessity, like they've spun the Iran debacle into some sort of "we're drawing/nobody knows what's going on really" and it worked, so they can do that too. Reality is though that the US influence has dwindled fast, but the US economic grasp on the world's economy is still firm. Way firmer than it should be. Everyone knows that, US/Israel included. Trump is there to assist with the dismantling of the US empire - that's the reason they put him there, to take the blame for it all. It's all working flawlessly so far.
>>541338395>>541339349Good posts, for once I'll forgive the annoying plebbit spacingTreasury is now fighting the Fed, and the first rule of bond trading is NEVER fight the Fed
>>541339643It’s obviously purposeful. We are being ushered into the great reset at warp speed
>>541339349>poverty wouldn't existstop watching porn, faggotpoor people are a FEATURE, not a BUG
>>541335766>gay soros fund manager announces that he is about to make soros even richer
>>541339491Yeah.. The US is probably facing the biggest crossroads in its entire history right now.Ever since bribery was legalized and rebranded as lobbying post WWII, the US political establishment has been completely hijacked by the pro-Israel lobby. And that contradiction has finally reached its absolute breaking point.It has literally come down to this: abandon the defense of Israel to save the American economy, or completely bankrupt the US just to keep protecting them. There is nobody left to buy US debt. Traditional foreign ATMs like Japan are completely fucked right now and have zero dry powder left to bail you out.It's zero-sum now. You have to choose between Israel and the USA
>>541339760It's not a reset it's a wealth transfer in a K shaped economy, and it's usually followed by war
>>541339762Very true. Got to have poor people to do all the things you don’t want to do. That’s why boomers import 1 billion Mexicans to mow their lawns. That’s why tech companies import 1 billion Indians to send their emails
>>541339349Nobody said "without any consequences". This is you inserting your own biases and framing.The constraint is REAL RESOURCES. Actual physical stuff and stuff that makes more stuff. Again, Zimbabwe RAN OUT OF STUFF. They say a ~60% drop in real agricultural output during their farm seizures. Rest assured, if the blacks had been able to maintain the same level of output, there would not be any hyperinflation because it is always based on real output, not "confidence".So yes, poverty IS in fact manipulated. It's manipulated by people who pretend governments need to "acquire" money first from somewhere else. This doesn't mean you should just give people money -- the point is that the resources available to a country can always afford to be exploited to the best of that country's ability. That will vary from country to country, as some have fewer resources or less capacity to make use of them. But the government can always afford to hire people to try to make the best use of them.Arguing with you people is a complete waste of time. You just want to protect the racket.
>>541339863The only wealth is a physical asset. So unless they’re using the goybucks to buy gold and land which I know they are and so much more. Then obviously that wealth is only going to kikes. It’s a reset in its own fashion a reset to how we live in the west
>>541339857A crossroads implies there's an exit. But the exit was always there. The constitution is an explicit break glass and the American people could act on it in the next hourBut this isn't a crossroads, it's a foregone conclusion because the golems are too complacent, too broken and subservient. The crossroads begin when people can't feed themselves anymore
>>541339934no. neck yourself faggot. hitler made concentration camps to deal with your sickness.
This stupid cunt is using the global economy as a threat to stop a war they startedHe has literally handed Iran a win hereEvery financier around the world is going to immediately hedge risks against the dollar nowThe UAE is going to be pissed, they will have to completely restructureANDHe has just announced that every branch of Melli (Irans national bank) has to shut down
>>541340037Correct. They're taking your goybux and buying safety from the future they're creating for you.Mark my words war is coming, If it hasn't already started. ChYna already has more boats than burgers (about 2/3 total tonnage) 230x boat building capacity 10x steel capacity and a fucking billion barrels of SPR in reserve to your 200m
>>541340037Gold has value insofar as it is used for productive industrial and chemical processes. People who dig gold up from one hole in the ground just to store it in another hole in the ground are just pretending.Now, you will try to say "but gold is real money". Money is whatever the State says it is. There is no good reason to limit your ability to engage in meaningful economic activity to the store of gold you have. It's like a carpenter hired to build your house and he has all the tools and the lumber and he tells you he can't get started because he "ran out of inches". Goldbugs are parasites who want to be able to choke off people they deem to be lesser.
>>541338306>it's what is colloquially known as 'printing money'.I know it as quantitative easing.
>>541335766You lost tranny! Haha libshits seethingMAGA!
>>541335766well we have to trust jews with these types of complex decisions, they are experts at it. i'm sure they are acting in our best interests
>>541337734>Imperium Americanaimagine talking like this when its been the city of london's empire for several hundred years
Didn't Germany do this in the 1920s?
>>541338809>hen the Fed was engaged in extraordinary COVID monetary manipulationwhy do so few people mention that the banks were about to 2008 again when ronas magically came along and gave them an excuse to print all the money they neededwhile doing away with the remaining vestiges of that pesky reserve requirement100% counterfeiting since then
>>541339991Sure, Zimbabwe ran out of physical output, but why did they run out??? Because hyperinflation completely destroyed economic incentives, crushed production, and caused a total collapse of faith in the currency. You can have all the physical resources in the world, but the moment the market loses trust and refuses to accept your unbacked paper for those resources, your entire system grinds to a halt.And that is precisely the brutal reality staring America right now.You need to drastically slash bloated spending, accept your losses and pay massive reparations to reopen the Strait of Hormuz oil supply chain, and overhaul taxes to actually boost revenues. If you don't fix the core numbers before debt interest completely outpaces GDP growth, you aren't just going to default, you are heading straight to hell.To put it simply, you are just going to get crushed to death under 40 trillion dollars.
>>541335766>lemmie use my credit card to take out a cash advance so I can make my minimum monthly payment on the same credit cardAmerica has the financial prowess of a nigger buying pizza with Klarna. Oh well, this should guarantee economic collapse and it's for the better.
>>541340220>hitler made concentration camps to deal with your sickness.that was akshually the Brown Brothers Harriman who was taking advantage of free jew labor while they earned their trip to itsrealfor many of them, it became neverreal
>>541340782>Stop doing Iran's bidding in the middle east>Tax the (((people))) who are hoarding all of America's wealthLol. Face it it's a lost cause, you can pretty much write America off at this point, they consistently choose the exact opposite of all your suggestions
>>541338993>>541339232>>54133964312 years ago we had a spate of Magic: The Happening threads. This was right before GamerGate happened. Unfortunately it would now be called Magic: Nothing Ever Happens. Except that for the first time in a long time, something actually appears to be happening.
>>541336427The vast majority of investors think a crash is impossible and they are invincible. It's going to be a treat watching them collapse into despair.
>>541340782No, you have this completely backwards. Zimbabwe saw a collapse in their agricultural output because they seized farms from White farmers who knew what they were doing and handed those farms over to blacks who had been loyal to the revolution.Rest assured, however far fetched this scenario is, is those blacks had produced the same agricultural output there would not have been any hyperinflation in Zimbabwe.But I get it, you have a narrative and a framing that you are committed to. Almost certainly because your livelihood depends on it. It's not that deep.
>>541335766>How the hell is that any different from just printing money like crazy?It's waaaaaaay more retarded. The Treasury General Account is the Federal government's bank account more or less. It is fed with deposits from things like Medicare premiums and Social Security payments although in reality about 70% of it is intragovernmental debt aka the IOUs Congress has been writing to the Social Security Administration for the last 40 years or so.That means he really only has ~$280 billion to play with. Mind, this is the money that is earmarked for silly things like actually paying Social Security benefits. Incidentally this is also where all cash seized by the Feds when you get pulled over near the border with a lot of cash which for some reason I still don't understand doesn't have the same 5th Amendment rights as you do.Bottom line, if this intervention fails, which it will, retirees and people who successfully sue the Federal government for their unlawfully seized cash might get Treasury bonds back in lieu of Federal Reserve Notes.
>>541340782>You can have all the physical resources in the world, but the moment the market loses trust and refuses to accept your unbacked paper for those resources, your entire system grinds to a halt.If you "have all the physical resources in the world", why do you need to acquire them from someone else? You can just pay your own people to do it.
>>541335766He is trying to stall a mass sell off of treasury bonds. Once enough people start selling everyone starts to look at each other thinking they don't want to be the last sucker in the room causing a massive sprint for the exit. It will work, at our expense of course. Then the same problem will pop up right after the midterm before any trailer trash rightoid notices because finnicial news is not their strong suit.
kekMarket hasnt blinkedThey dont believe any of this bullshitIts another piece of theater by the admin
>>541341040Can't seem to remember that. Might be I wasn't around at that time, but I've been here basically since the start.
>>541341298Which market? The fake one or the one that matters?
>>541335766Well the difference is that the rest of the world is still utterly dependant on the US system and this essentially forces their enemies to cough up the money peacefully.
>>541341367You can search the archive for it, but I don't think images from that far back have been preserved, so none of the cards people made are still available.
Why is Trump putting a Soros operative in charge of Americas money, also he is homosexual???
>>541341407shit, the only thing this is missing is....saddam hussein
>>541341407no markets matteryou make money where you can, take it out and make it physically valuable and no, that doesnt mean gold because if it gets to that stage your government will take it or tax its sale so hard its worthless
>>541339827Funny how people supported Trump because Hillary was considered a Soros operative, and that Trump would lock her up because of it
Scott essentially gets fucked in the ass and in the mouth by his gay husband in his pink mansion. He shits out the cum and shit into his satin panties. Thats it. Thats all.
>>541337555That isn't hyperinflation. The US M2 is about 23 trillion. Injecting another 40 trillion would cut the value of your money to about a third of what it currently is. It would be horrible for the average person, yes, but not hyperinflationary. In Canada during covid our money got devalued to around two thirds of what it was before. So you'd basically just be looking at that, but twice as bad. Everyone would be made quite poor but it wouldn't immediately collapse the economy.
>>541341123>>541341172First of all, why do you think agricultural output collapsed when the farms were seized? Because printing worthless fiat and forcing a regime shift completely destroyed economic stability and technical capability in the first place. You cannot separate physical production from the monetary trust that incentivizes it.Second, Domestic workers are going to reject your trash paper the second it loses purchasing power. You cannot eat dollars or burn greenbacks for heat when your entire country relies on foreign energy imports.
>>541335766>stunning>brave>innovative>zesty
>>541335766Sell your treasuries as long as the US pays for them!
>>541336427>this has been ongoing, every quarter, since 2008
>>541336399>still not QE ;^)
Nobody on 4chan understands *any* of this.archive.4plebs.org, search these terms:>financialization>central bank>derivative>debt-based economic model>Interest PaymentsEveryone itt except me is a brainlet.
>>541335766They're just giving time for the Jews to exit the American markets before they collapse. Operation Trump Market Mayhem is nearly complete with a complete economic collapse projected around 2030
>>541336961>I'm a MAGA Republican and dont know anything but memesFTFY
>>541336032The U.S. bond market is an indicator for overall market health. If the yield continues to climb then investors will put their money in hard assets and the whole Ponzi scheme of the federal reserve comes crashing down.
>>541337538I doubt this is Bessent's idea. He had grand ideas before the administration took office of paying down the debt and making a soft landing from the pandemic printing insanity, but this administration is completely captured.
>country is so rich it can afford buying $1,000,000,000,000 of its own bonds sending yields to the ground making borrowing even cheaperTrump won. Trannies seething.
>>541341095buy the dip unless you want to stay poor
>>541335766I'm so tired of back financial problems from bending over an entire lifetime.Just fuck me upright, no lube.I got nothin left and barely anything to pay attention with
>>541341818>why do you think agricultural output collapsed when the farms were seized?Because the new owners did not know what they were doing. I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish here and I'm not interested in engaging with you anymore. You're just wordsmithing and fighting the obvious so you can abstract it.
>>541342013>globohomo will wait until Trump is out of office to try collapsing thingslol, no
kekjust checked why this all got released today, this is friday newsBUTTreasury is auctioning of debt this weekJuly price index drops WednesdayBureau of Labor Statistics is dropping its preliminary annual benchmark employment revisionsNvidia is reportingThis could be a very spicy week on the markets
>>541341786>would cut the value of your money to about a third of what it currently is.Considering USD has roughly two percent of its original value left, you might want to reconsider that assessment.
>Anonymous (ID: /c1emAfE)13 pbtidThis is ^ an MMT shill (for anyone that can't easily recognize as such in all these macro finance topic threads)Do not engage
>>541342590https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqxB775qnP4
>>541340559They printed to pay off their debt, mind you the germans expanded their currency supply by 10x during ww2
>>541342882>ww2I meant ww1
>>541337221Bessent was Soros "money man".Credited with making Soros a billionaire by shorting the Pound.Its on, again.
>>541342882Something you aren't explaining is that their war reparations were not denominated in marks and the Ruhr was under direct French military occupation, physically escorting production out of the country.
>>541342697Annnnnnnnnnnnd now the standard of living goes off a cliff.The part I kinda hope for is all the useless eaters this will take with it.Good vidya... I know what its a bout.. Still copium.
>>541340553capital moved quite a while ago to your side of atlantic mutt
>>541343058Our physical production is outsourced to China
>>541343546does it even matter when its the same gaggle of merchants that began these endeavors 400+ years ago
am i allowed to do this with my student loan debt? how do i tell them ill just buy my own debt with my own bonds so not to worry about getting payments for a while?
>>541338178you are talking about a completely different type of buyback that functions as a quality of life improvement, and is valued in the billions (not even tens of billions) most of the timethis is a completely different operation that is meant to artificially manipulate the bond market as an emergency measure and is valued at nearly a trillion
>>541344820The Treasury announced that it was going to raise the amount of 20 and 30 year bonds it was willing to buy from $2 billion at each reverse auction to $4 billion and this caused the fake news jewsnto kvetch.This is always done when the economy is good and banks want more liquidity so wish to sell bonds. Treasury bonds compete with other securities for investor dollars. When investors think other investment opportunities are rising, they require higher returns in exchange for buying the government’s bonds. The way this is accomplished in the secondary market is that they pay less for bonds held by other investors, which pushes up the yield on the bond. Buy for less means yielding more. The Treasury steps in and says we'll take those back so you can start lending again because manufacturing in the US has skyrocketed because of shit Trump did last year requiring all global corps to build American plants. It's a total nothing burger Greece sir
>>541336399Nigger you are actually fucking retarded. That would decimate that value of the US dollar and make the country unstable practically overnight.
>>541336038"Quantitative easing (QE) is a monetary policy action where a central bank purchases predetermined amounts of government bonds, company shares, or other financial assets (liquidity) in order to artificially stimulate economic activity."
>>541335766>>541335989>>541337637>>541337985Sit down and shut up, goy. The adults in the room already have the new 9/11 with Digital ID & digital surveillance money waiting in the wings.
>>541335966>You are out of money and will write me a rubber check for $10 million. If you cash it then give me the money it will cover the check.i used to do this type of things before banks became computerized. >have 2 checking accounts>deposit $100 check from checking account a into checking account b>withdraw money from account b>have 3 days for check deposited in accout b to make it to account a.>before 3 days deposit $200 check from account b into account a. (to cover the $100 & get another $100)>rinse and repeat. when payday comes your broke though
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>>541347133is this an eglin base nigger? lmaothe end has begun buddy, your entry-level jargon isn't fooling anyone
Golden age tranny, YOU LOST
>>541335766This all goes back to the Iran war and what a massive fuckup it is. Normally when the US starts murdering brown people wholesale the economy booms, bond yields flatten out and all the fat cats meow. Iran was a bridge too far though because the negative economic impacts associated with the strait have fucked everything. They actually thought Iran would be a piece of cake, they're such fuckheads in every department. Now economically in nautical terms they're rearranging the deck chairs and ignoring the great big fucking iceberg sticking out of the bow.
>buy back own bonds>profit
>>541336032>Not really. It's just pumping liquidity into the pockets of people who are already extremely liquid. It makes no sense.Oh it makes sense.
>>541336181Uses existing cash already printed to buy back bonds, but then when that money is needed in the future they have to print more bonds. Its retarded
>>541337889Bond vigilantes have a pretty good track record of making government's and central banks kneel.
>>541336047Things have only been getting worse every year since 2008. The market won't crash but everything we value in society will.
>>541352598Washington was too based. We didn’t deserve him as a founding father. That’s why they got rid of the history of him nearly everywhere. At least the end is near now
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>>541335873Or spending your own cash reserves to finance your luxurious lifestyle.Trump is a shrewd kike, he burns the ship, hands it to his successor, then will blame him for ruining the country.
>>541342590No? We're comparing where it would be to where it is now, not where it was a century or two ago.
>other countries start dumping US treasuries>FED actually buys them and remits them to the treasury where they are destroyed>nobody has to payRon Paul wanted this.
>>541335966it is printing money, but just with extra steps because the fed doesn't belong to the US government do not own the federal reserve and cannot print dollars
>>541353381What does this mean? So other countries are selling American bonds back to America? Why is this a bad thing?
>>541353664Because american doesn't actually have the cash to buy them so they're printing more dollars.
>>541341786You can't compare hard currency to m2 wtf are you talking about. Hard money is multiplied several times to get the m2.
magic monkey tits
>>541351344You don't know shit that's why you went straight to "you use big words I don't understand".Tell us exactly how this manipulates the bond market, I don't expect a reply
>>541335966>a rubber check
>>541352598Reverse image search>its actually a Glenn Beck quotelolLMAO
>>541336995cool it, anon
>>541335766Big is true....the guy by single hand ruined all muricans future.
>Some random Jeet has an opinion on social media.Oh fuck, it's over!
>hate the surveillance state?>hate endless wars?>hate welfare queens?>hate the ever expanding government?We aint voting our way out of it, but we could speedrun it. Almost all of the gay bullshit of modern society is downstream of our monetary system. So hell yea, print more money, trillions more, crash the dollar. I want billion dollar bills to buy a pack of gum, let's hurry this shit up
>>541355555Check3d
>>541355555Check em'
Rates are going to 8% in december
>>541353664US Treasury announces that the old bond is eligible for an upcoming buyback. Dealers then get a 20 minute window to offer the bonds to the Treasury through the FedTrade system.The buybacks are mainly a service provided to bond buyers, a way for the government to let investors know that it will make sure the market in the securities it is selling remains liquid. You don’t have to worry about your bonds going stale because you can also go to the reverse auction and trade your old bonds. The US Treasury does this all the time go on their website and look up prior auctions.The dealer then offers this new more liquid 10yr bond to pension funds and others. Investors prefer the bond everyone else is trading because they know they will be able to sell it quickly. Pension funds sometimes need to sell old bonds and through buy back auctions it means they always have the most in demand security to sell quickly if needed.Total nothing burger anyone excited over this is retarded
>basically we're gonna rob you twice lol you're welcome
>>541338623The LDI mechanism was triggered. Pension funds borrow against gilts. As they fell in value, they got margin calls forcing them to liquidate their positions, leading to a free-fall scenario until the BoE stepped in.You are welcome to her btw. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if she turns out to be the mastermind behind all this.
>>541355555And then what happened?
>>541355750Here is the alternative.Treasury sells you a 10y bond but 5 years from now the economy is doing well and no investors want to buy that bond from you because more money can be made in other securities right now. You have an off the run bond. This means you are stuck with that bond until the Treasury redeems it 5 years later so have no access to liquidity. But now the Treasury says we'll buy those back and sell you a fresh 10y bond that everyone is trading you can sell in seconds if needed. Now you have an on the run bond.If you are some deranged media pundit you then lie and say omg it's manipulation the sky is falling how dare the orange migger do this! Even though Yellen was doing the same thing at the Treasury under Biden.
>>541335766Why the hell can't they print money for Americans?>I thought this was American not Americant.
