These are some random evacuated towns void of people he's talking about here.Not a regional capital, not Odessa, not even talking about Kyiv.We're close to the 5-year mark, how's THIS sellable as any kind of "victory," even if you mobilize another 500k Ivans?Mariupol was the biggest "victory" of the whole ass war if you count "flattened and captured" as a victory, but at this point, it's potato potato.Now what?
>>541357456>WTF is Russia's endgame at this point?Grind Ukraine into rubble.
>>541357456>WTF is Russia's endgame at this point?Putin does not care how many russains die, he and his buddies are making big money. That is all. The war can last until there is an uprising and he is overthrown.
Great! Ukraine will take back Crimea in two weeks! Slava transylvania or whatever
>>541357456>WTF is Russia's endgame at this point?ukraine ceasing to exist forever
>>541357456>how's THIS sellable as any kind of "victory," even if you mobilize another 500k Ivans?Because Russia is wise to you shitball NATO member's goals. The US doesn't give a fuck about Eastern Europe and preferred it to be a buffer between Russia and NATO but corrupt shitballs in the EU forced this war. Russia realizes its either crush Ukraine and make it a buffer state by force or NATO will be using it as a staging platform. This was already assumed for Finland and Sweden and wouldn't you know... those two shitholes jumped right into NATO without a second thought confirming their suspicions they were just faking neutrality. Of course Finland, Sweden, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia provide NOTHING to NATO in a material sense and are just total fucking dead weight baggage.
>>541357456>collapse in 2 weeks
>>541357456Putin doesn't give a shit, he gets to LARP as a Bolshevik tyrant, and the money kikes behind him are happy that so many Slavic people are dying. This war isn't going just to be the end of Ukraine, but Russia as well. Both countries are going to be devoured by Asiatic migrants and invaders, all because both peoples were too cowardly to stand up to the kikes.
>>541357456kek why is he using such an old ass map.
>>541358082I'm not bringing Readovka maps into this sorry.
>>541358020basically this. dumbest war ever and national suicide for russia at this point, which is keeping up the meatgrind to capture a bit more empty rubble. it's insane
>>541357965>Finland and Sweden provode nothing to NATOPost your hand because I'm not sure if you're a jeet or a zigger or a chink
>>541357965>those two shitholes jumped right into NATO without a second thought confirming their suspicions they were just faking neutralityCue maybe if Putin hadn't been a total retard, they would have stayed neutral until now.
>>541357456goals are as thus1.kill as many white christian russia/ukranian men as possible2. colonise new ukraine3. destroy russia pipeline to europe and kill all hope of restoring relations4. have europe arm itself and kill itself in ww3 against russia while usa battles china
>>541358527>Cue maybe if Putin hadn't been a total retard, they would have stayed neutral until now.Once again the NAFO troon has no reading comprehension. Russia knew they were just faking being neutral and were heavily aligned to NATO all through the cold war and the MS Estonia incident was Sweden getting caught smuggling Soviet weaponry out behind the former iron curtain for study on behalf of the CIA.
>>541358638Ok but now they are in NATO and Russia has 100s of miles of new border with NATO and 50 miles from downtown St. Petersburg. So that's a major fail of the SMO for sure.
>>541357622>>541357911>>541357912It took them less time to drive the Germans all the way back to Berlin back in 1945 than it did to take Kharkiv in 2026, but you're NEVER going to address this.
>>541358820>than it did to not in fact take Kharkiv by 2026Had to correct that one
>>541358571That's just suicide with 3 extra steps.
>>541358343I always liked the hashed shading near Transnistria as if the ~1,500 troops with basically no armor were going to participate in a lightning offensive.
>>541357965>corrupt shitballs in the EU forced this warLook at this nigger already shifting the blame lmao, you coup'd them, you armed them, and you was the one who promised endless gibsSure they are giant retards for falling for it, but it doesn't change that you started it, and roped everybody else on it after.
>>541357456Russia wanted a demilitarized buffer state. Looks like that's what Ukraine will be as soon as the fighting officially ends. The longer the fighting goes on, the longer it will take for Ukraine to potentially have another go at becoming something else.
>>541357912>ywn join the Russian military and help Ukraine rebuild by ravaging their whores after the war is wonFight on without me comrades...Why couldn't Donald Trump be serious about his Greenland conquest
>>541357456You should join afu and die in ukrwanda that's should solve your dilemma
>>541357456*KievIf you can't even spell it right, I'm going to assume your post is just gay idiocy.
>>541357456The end of the Ukraine as a distinct people from Russia.
>>541357456You never seen a Russian city? Rubble is the norm
>>541358820>It took them less time to drive the Germans all the way back to Berlin back in 1945at absolutely massive cost in human life.>you're NEVER going to address this.The thing is that you believe the absolutely absurd claims of the Ukrainian MOD as gospel truth, so it's impossible to have a reasonable conversation about this with you. In order to discuss what's actually going on, we need to establish the facts. Unfortunately you have decided that reality is a Kremlin talking point and should be treated with contempt instead of seriously discussed. You've decided reality is your enemy, so discussing conclusions is impossible since you scorn the facts themselves.
I'm not sure why anyone's still looking at maps for this war after the counteroffensyive. It is now a long slow war of attrition, and one country is much larger, with more resources and people, than the other. There's only one end to that. We now also know for sure that there will be no serious reinforcement from the West, either Europe or America. Europe lacks the capacity and if we were going to do it we would've done it by now. The situation will only worsen, so with every passing month there will be less interest in getting involved in the increasingly inevitable crash.>But what about this sitrep?It doesn't matter. The larger tides are unchanged. No amount of bravery or skill will overcome this numbers difference.Ukraine is dead, we just wait to see who else they can drag into the grave.
>>541360493>ukrwandaDon't be insulting Rwanda by comparing them to Ukraine. In Rwanda the Tutsis stopped the genocide against them on their own and ended up taking over the whole country in self defense, all without western aid. Rwandans are badass.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kitona
>>541357456>how's THIS sellableWestoid brain somehow can't comprehend this, but propaganda doesn't win wars, artillery does, infantry does, even drones does.No amount of cope will change the history, since history is written by winners>>541357912/thread
>>541361029>at absolutely massive cost in human life.Are you pretending that the Russian ordeal since 2022 cost them like peanuts in terms of human lives, or what? It's one million men plus in a country with not so many millions of men.
>>541361178>30k niggers total strengthAbsolute kek of the war.
I saw a video yesterday where it showed a fierce battle and the footage was shown from the drones and from both russian and ukrainian gopros. Shit was fucked, you got to see them throwing grenades at eachother and then the receiving end of said grenades, fuckin wild shit. Tank hitting an AT mine was fucked too, the thing got vaporized.
>>541357456>another 500k Ivansthat's it, that's what it takes to finish off the European coalition?how cheap lmao
>>541358020TRVTHNUKE
>>541358020you clearly haven't read up on the History of Russia lol.
>>541361900>It's one million men plus in a countryThis is exactly what I was talking about. You believe the absolutely preposterous claims of the Ukrainian MOD and thus you reach idiotic conclusions from them. The reason why Russia is making decisions which seem nonsensical based upon the information you have is because the information you have is wrong.>>541362055It was a single airborne operation which was conducted across an area larger than Europe.
>>541361900Even if it was a million dead Russians over four years that's less then 700 dead a day
>>541357456It's not a war u tards. It's a slav genocide operation. Just like happened at least twice in the 20th century. Both sides just kill slavs. It's obvious
>>541357456Dont know, but they are notorious for fucking up
>>541362986>>541362986>It's a slav genocide operation>>541362986>Just like happened at least twice in the 20th centuryAnd yet Russia is still a Great Power lol. Imagine where they would be if they hadn't lost 60 million people in the 20th Century from wars and communism.
>>541357456That front is basically a distraction that serves to divert Ukranian forces from more immediately pressing areas.The secondary objective is taking back the gains they lost in Kharkov oblast circa 2022 who knows how long it'll be until they can actually threaten the city itself.
