are boomers retarded? nobody can afford this. this should be like $10,000 tops
that is actually a fair price
>>541362383>west virginia>built in 2024no it aint
>>541362383What are the chances this thing becomes structurally unsound in a few decades or less?
It's pretty nice NGL.
>>541362594west virginia real estate has been fucked for years. a ~900 sq foot shitbox in south hills is going to run you ~300k. i saw a burnt to the foundation home in marmet selling for ~150k a few years ago.
>>54136212420.1 acres is a massive property.
>>541362646100%
>>541362124>20 acres>this should be like, $10k manLol, op is a hippy with a Time Machine
>>541362700cause you're paying for the land, the poor condition of the shitbox doesn't matter
>3 hours deep inmawoods from the nearest 1 horse townWhat do you do for work if you live here? No way you get good enough Internet to wfh
>>541362124Moorefield, West Virginia has a population of 2,527 according to the 2020 census. What jobs available in Moorefield will allow one to afford the mortgage on a $950,000 house?
>>541362727.t landletNothing under 1000 is "big".
>>541362124Best I can do is 65k
>>541362851Lotto winner.
>>541362820be some sort of construction or timber sub contractor, overcharging while hiring mexicans
>>541362851you aren't buying that house with a mortgage, duh.
>>541362124larry fink (trumps friend) and blackrock can afford it if you pay taxes. then they can rent it out to you!
>>541362124Only chud weirdos want to live in the place in the middle of nowhere
>>541362851>What jobs available in Moorefield nigger WVa is not a state you move to so you can find work, it's a state you retire to
>>541363025>but WHERE IS MY HUSTLE AND BUSTLEyou know one thing I haven't seen any of around here without driving at least an hour?niggers
>>541363033WV is full, fuck off.
>>541362872>Nothing under 1000 is "big".Shut up you larping faggot
>>541363077too late
>>541362820>What do you do for work if you live here?That's the joke. None of the people in these threads bitching about home prices work anyway.>>541362851>What jobs available in Moorefield will allow one to afford the mortgage on a $950,000 house? What do you do for work? Are you actually interested in buying a million dollar home in the middle of nowhere or is this meant to be some rhetorical sour grapes?
>>541362124Literally a glorified chicken coop
>>541362820Did you miss the Biden fiber internet?
>>541362851>What jobs availableIt's all BS. People out here in Caliwali are paying over 60% of their monthly net income on rent or a mortgage. No financial adviser would ever think that's a good idea, or even sustainable. It's unreal how many people I know that don't even have 1 extra months rent on hand, and they are making low 6 figs. Many people at my work, are literally paycheck to paycheck, asking to borrow $100 till payday, and I know they are clearing at least $4k/mo.
>>541363118only shitty part is the metal roof, those things are loud as fuck when it rains
>>541362383How does that shit possibly survive the winter?
>>541362851Buccees general managerChick fil a ownerWalmart night shift leadWendy’s chefHead pastor of the Snake Handlers
>>541363214i like listening to the rain
>>541362383It is, no one wants to accept that they cannot afford it
>>541363079Didn't say I had 1000. Just talking about reality. Faggot.
>>541363266I can see it in the art noise sense
>>541362727It's legit tiny. You must live on the fifth floor with niggers and spics.
>>541362383good luck fighting off the inbreds in dem der hills
>>541362851Crypto.You actually think rich people want to live near other people?
>>541363219It's a vacation home that is used 2 weeks in the year.
Housing market QRD, the only houses in demand fall into 3 categories>Middle-poor housing - housing that's relatively cheap compared to the average, something that's cheap enough a 30 year old could buy it and raise a family in. There is almost zero supply for said houses.>Downsized retirement housing - usually a patio home, cheap and small, for retiring when you're out of money and old. There's a severe lack of supply and even the cheapest of these skyrocket in price>Rich boomer houses - a 65 year old looking for a house upgrade of some sort, buying a house from a 70 year old who's looking to downsizeThe number one buyer for houses is 65 year olds, that's not an exaggeration that's the actual statistic. The number one seller is 70 year olds. There's a severe market mismatch, we're flooded with luxury houses and mansions but there's hardly any middle housing that's been made for a couple decades now (more profit if you can sell a luxury) and all the cheap houses are now bought up as retirement houses.So all houses on the market go up massively in price, cheap ones sell instantly, only expensive baghodler ones left. Yes, nobody could afford this actually, it doesn't matter as only the rich can afford any kind of housing.
>>541363709>There is almost zero supply for said houses.>There's a severe lack of supply and even the cheapest of these skyrocket in pricedamn, guess everyone just has to rentjews didn't want it to be like this, so it's not their fault, don't blame them, not like there's been endless little burner subsidiary companies buying any houses selling in whatever area for years now to sit on and rent
>>541363841>They're being rented outNo, they literally just were not built for a couple decades at this point, ever since the price of housing did the initial price increase they switched over to luxury housing construction, which bumped their profit margins up a couple percent higher.Supply has been basically zero for said houses and nobody has even tried to address it, but they've openly known about the problem and have decided to do nothing.
>>541363395Wonder if "them there" is Scandi immigrant influence. It sounds natural here.
>>541363709Boomers are a massive problem. I'm helping my 74yo mother look for a place closer to my sister, maybe 45 mins from where she is now, basically the same market. Goal is to rent out her current house, and pay for a new(SMALLER), house. Anything under ~2000sqft she calls tiny. She wants multiple stories for some reason. Why the FUCK do you need a 4 bed, 2 or 3 story home, for 1 person?? WTF is wrong with boomers man. My gf's boomer parents just bought a BIGGER home than what they had, new one is like 8,000 sqft.
Yes they are.Boomer landlord tried to put the rent up on me.I don't have a fix term contact just a week notice. He puts it up I go elsewhere, shit I'll live in a van for a couple of weeks if I have to.This is the same dickhead that doesn't tell me that he's got tradesmen coming around to fix things he hasn't bothered to look at for 10 + years because he's a lazy fuck.To add insult to injury one of these mystery meat raided my fridge.I hate boomers so much its unreal.Boomers are misery vendors.
>>541362124You're welcome to build your own house for $10,000, you know. Keep us posted!
>>541363952Same here mine are the same age.7 that's right 7 unused spare rooms, just cupboards loaded up with crap.
>>541363954>This is the same dickhead that doesn't tell me that he's got tradesmen coming aroundIf you pulled that on a boomer, they would loose their mind and call the COPs or shoot the tradie.
>>541363944"De(m) där" with "d" as well, but probably a coincidence
>>541363934I've seen it with ones around me being bought up but anecdotal = schmanecdotal, and I can only speak to where I've lived anyway, so
I thought West Virginia was cheap....
>>541363952Yeah. They were supposed to downsize when they were 50 or 60 and no longer needed the mansion, at that point instead of selling the big house and having a smaller one constructed they decided to keep the big 5 bedroom house and fill the rooms with junk.There has never been a more greedy generation, just having massive houses sit idle with a single room being used for habitation in an entire farmhouse / mansion so they can fill a room with plastic lawn chairs.
It's probably the acres that are boosting the value that high.
>>541364036100% it's an utter double standard.
>>541364071It's unreal. Then they have the GALL to ask why you haven't GIVEN them grandchildren yet.
>>541362124It's on 20 acres assholeLemme guess, you want more???
>>541364059it wasyou should see the housing developments going up now, it'll be this bare handful of old houses for miles around and these new mcmansion neighborhoods going up with the houses like 10 feet away from one anotherpeople's properties are doubling to tripling in value
>>541364112They wont understand that at all. You can tell them and show them every statistic and reality, and they still will have no clue why Millennials making $80k/y can't buy a $1.4mil home and have a family.
>>541363033yeah, not the caseno fixed income retiree is about to move to an impending mountain landslide-coffin estate only drive 2.5 hours to the nearest doctor's office or emergency department
>>541364207>fixed income retiree>these are the only kind of retirees there area fixed income retiree around here isn't moving in from out of state
>>541362851>Wealthy Indian Caste>Chinese>ArabsParking investment money while driving up rent for the average American as a way to destroy America
How does pic related happen?A massive increase in a span of a month, I can understand maybe 10-20 grand on fixes but a $133,000 in a span of a month seems fucking crazy to me, and it's pending.
>>541362383$225k tops
>>541362124>Brand new home>20 acresWorth it. The value will only go up. Land of the free, home of the brave.
>>541364071>>541364131Oh and to add onto this they're also the MUH LAND group, that owns 99% of the land in the USA but doesn't actually use it to do anything. They'll have land sitting completely idle that they haven't been on in a decade but they don't sell it because they know what they got.Looked at my local land listings and there's 1/2 an acre that's been listed for sale for 5 years now, he's lost 1/4 of the value to just property taxes alone and has lost probably twice as much in just maintenance, just keeping it for no reason other than hoping that someone buys it, no offers for years.They sit on their houses until they rot, they sit on the land and make sure that nobody can have space for even a garden because land is a form of "wealth" for them and this means that they have to hold it forever in a literal speculation scheme hoping someone pays a 10x inflated price on it so they can make their money back, meanwhile the prime real estate they're holding onto is swampland with flooding issues in a low-income neighborhood.This is my anecdote for the area I live in but these are real numbers.It's a 170k dollar housing area.Any new build would cost 200k to be up to code.A boomer is trying to sell 1/2 acre for 20,000, which would put the price of a house in the area up to 220k, so it's just 50k cheaper to buy a house. He still isn't even willing to negotiate at all and wants the full price for his literal dead land that's costing him a few thousand a year.
>>541362851My nearest town is 258 people.I work in a city 40 minutes away for $32 an hour doing sheetmetal.The property taxes on my 40 acres is $370 a year.>im the anon who was shitting in a bucket for 2 years until i saved enough for a septic system for my cabin and spent 5 years (total) carting water home in jugs every day after work until I saved enough for a well.I added the green text just to emphasize what can be done if youre willing to suffer for it.As for a turnkey house innawoods- commuting normal.People in L.A. spend more time on the freeway everyday than I do and they live 15 miles from work.There is no place thats inaccessible anymore. You can drop a random in the U.S. on google earth and be within an hours drive to a walmart. Im not saying just work at walmart- im saying work at walmart, just highlighting the fact that if you jump on the freeway you can be to a city before your favorite album plays through.
>>541364257fixed income retirees do like 90% of the out-of-state retirement, but to states like Florida or Arizona.the only faggots moving to West Virginia are late-career yuppies that want to larp the country aesthetic on instagram, but still ultimately return to civilization when they get tired of several hour drives to Target or Starbucks.
>>541364644>faggots moving to West Virginiathis, only faggots move here, all meth and inbred trailer trash far as the eye can see; everyone best stay away
i dont see how anyone could buy a house. its literally impossible. most that normal people can hope for is building their own hut in the phillipines for free or something. bare minimum house in usa is like $100,000. nobody has that much money
>>54136238320 acres of land adds to price.
>>541364706Financing schemes, this is why they do 30 year mortgages so it merely slurps 40% of your income for 30 years of your life.
>>541362851Retired early because of covid BS. That house looks like a decent getaway. Needs some trees and landscaping though.
>>541363214Metal roofs are great, especially if the water is directed into a cistern.
>>541363266I agree. Rain on the roof is soothing.
>>541362124The problem with the boomer property holders is that they never thought prices could come down, and then relied on property as their retirement plan. As boomers die out in both USA and Canada, we will see a huge deflationary event with properties and assets as the younger generations just don't have the fiat wealth to buy up those assets as they become available
brown people could never imagine owning 20 acres of land. all they can see is the tiny house.
>>541363395Better them than the cretins that live in the cities.
>>541364363Someone thought it was undervalued and decided to flip it. People trust that President Trump is serious when he says the housing market is going to stay strong while he's in office.
>>541364990they're cheap but loud and hot as hell in the summer
>>541364418Land.comLandandfarm.comLandwatch.comLandsearch.comCheaplands.comI found my property on landandfarm.I actually foind it randomly. I was going to visit a friend and just did a google search for the area to see what there was to do around there and had some "20 acres for sale. No money down, no credit check , $199 a month" pop up.Told my buddy about it and he was like "I know that area, you'll love it, let's go check it out".Walked around the property for about 2 hours and called the realtor and said "ill take it, send me the paperwork".I bought land by accident.If you put effort into it you could own your fantasy.
>>541362700the desperate measures people go to get away from blacks
>>541364363boomers not only pulling the ladder up behind them but taking a shit on your head from above. >>541365092>Someone thought it was undervalued and decided to flip it. should be illegal. it probably already is
>>541362124Over a quarter of the US population are people who shouldn't be here. Send them home and there will be tens of millions of extra housing units on the market with no buyers. You'll have your pick of homes to live in just for assuming the carrying costs.
>>541362594>20 acres overlooking a beautiful valleystay in the city, nigger. home ownership isnt for you
>>541364418>so they can make their money backThat that don't even need, and will be dead in 10 years. It's like multiple generations of people waiting for them to die, so they can have lives. It's been SO FUCKING LONG that those other multiple generations probably can't even have families now anyway. Boomers burned it all to the ground, while letting in the 3d World.
>>541365182Ah yes, that would be much better, a country full of squatters, and dilapidated, uncared-for homes.
>>541364487I respect your discipline and patience. Most people don't have that.
>>541363033Close. It's a state you move to when you need to disappear.
>>541365097Have a ridge vent on the roof--it makes all the difference.
>>541365123What state was the land?
>>541365182how does this explain the most majority white state also facing this real estate market problem? you afraid of saying the real reason why?>>541365201when i want to go to a valley, i will. enjoy it and then leave. is your time worth nothing? it's an hour drive to the nearest grocery store. >inb4 "i hunt for all my food"
It's comical as shit right now that outer counties of LA and San Francisco in places like Clearlake and or Bakersfield or small town NorCal you can still find houses 150k but homes in Iowa are pushing 200k.Everyone is leaving California and only super rich techies, Doctors and Foreign wealth keeps San Francisco and Orange County and Hollywood Hills etc etc in the multi million range.the middle class is dying in California and the uber wealth Multi Millionaire in the hundreds of millions or Billionaires are leaving because of the Billionair tax law. All these companies are splitting while Sauds and Chinese wealth buy into California property as a tax advantage. you have homes not lived in in upper middle class neighborhoods.
>>541365333you can do that too, yeahif you want to be surrounded by trailers and methwhat a horrible place to live it is>>541365419venting only does so much for hot metalonly thing comparable to how hot it gets is black tar roofing
>>541365442>it's an hour drive to the nearest grocery store. are you incapable of planning, so that you need to go more than once a fortnight or something
>>541365439Georgia.>inb4 niggersMy nearest town is still considered a sundown town.
>>541365638>buying groceries every 2 weeksyou just buying slop and canned beans? imagine the smell
>>541365442How fucking fat are you that you need quick access to groceries?I go grocery shopping like once a week. Make a fucking list, dipshit
>>541365715what are you eating that you need to go to the grocery store constantly, so that an hour drive is this enormous inconvenience
>>541365439And if youre curious what it looks like, here's my most recent pic I posted from my porch during a rain storm
>>541362124>20 acres>over 3,000 square feet>waterfrontOf course it's expensive. I don't think it's unreasonable.
>>541365743quite the opposite. i'm not fat because i only buy what i need for a few meals at a time and don't need to haul my fat ass down a mountain in a Fat Fuck 3500 to load go to Sams Club for my latest slop haul>>541365789meals mostly made up of perishable food that lasts a few days to a week, like a normal person should be
>>541365878>i'm not fat because i only buy what i need for a few meals at a time and don't need to haul my fat ass down a mountain in a Fat Fuck 3500 to load go to Sams Club for my latest slop haulywnbart>can't even think of actual food to state, states a "strategy" instead
>>541365439And heres a pic of one of my meadows.This is on my second plot. I originally bought 20 acres and then an adjoining 20 acres went back on the market so I had to buy it to keep from getting neighbors.>sorry for the low res, got tired of trying to crop to the 4mb so just said fuck it and screen shotted it.
>>541365743>I go grocery shopping like once a week.>>541365878>meals mostly made up of perishable food that lasts a few days to a week, like a normal person should behilarious
>>541365577The metal roof can be made white or a light tan. It's an Amish trick. Also, a fan can be installed. We have a ridge vent. In the hot summer, we leave the screened basement door/windows open, leave the stairwell door open. You can just leave the basement windows open if you are worried about bears. Anyway, it makes an amazing air current that cools the whole house. We don't have AC, frankly don't need it. The fresh air is pleasant.
>>541362851work from home u retard
I want to buy property anons
>>541362124Yes, they are retarded. The best offer I can make is -$999,999,999 [you're gonna pay me to take it off yer hands] and $999,999,999/month payments from you to me there, cotton-top. No but really, they're gonna die holding their bags
>>541366092>We don't have AC, frankly don't need it.there was this guy around me here that did some whole "MAN" thing living without a/c, lasted 2 summers and had a stroke
>>541365987>>541366061>double responsewhy are you so fixated on what i eat you fucking weirdo? you really just cant fathom it makes no sense for most people to live there as your primary residence, and we all know you can't afford it as a vacation home
>>541366225>the content of either response is irrelevant to the fact he got two (You)sah, if only they had some inherent value in & of themselves, on their own>we all know like I said, y w n b a r t
Rents free, cus I live homeless. Fuck you boomers and fuck society MGTOW
>>541362646>becomes it was built structurally unsound. you ever seen how we build shit in america? the only tool you need to take down a that entire house is a hammer. the top's made from chink tier plywood, and you can smack those boards holding it up a few times and knock them loose. or just let your wife or teenager accidentally back into it
>>541362124Chinese and indians can
>>541366052Wow, that's awesome!Have you planted any fruit/nut trees? I planted a mixed berry patch, and it's really producing! I placed 4 hummingbird feeders around the berries; they are very territorial! Around each fruit tree I placed an Erva plant cage; they work well. Do you like to garden? Even growing an herb garden makes a big difference.
>>541362700>marmet
>>541362124as always land that probably less than $30k was actually invested in outside the house became $800k or somethingboomers were extremely obstructionist to younger people getting access to land that already has gubbmint infrastructure running to it or is just in civilization
>>541363289Nah you're just a fucking faggot. 20.qcres is a large property. Give me your address. I'll fly over to where you are and slit your throat.
>>541366179Air conditioning is a relatively new "requirement" for homes. Definitely not necessary, especially if you have clear space around a house to help direct the air flow.But you do you.
>>541363401Yes, because their kids need education, they need food and gas, water electricity, and their au pair and maids aren't gonna live in buttfuck nowhere.
>>541362124>20 acresYou're not getting that much land for 10 grand unless its inhospital
>>541362383>950k for a 2 floor house on a mountain cliff with stiltsThat's like 200k max. Assuming the drive to and from isn't a massive shithole which is almost a guarantee since it's on a mountain cliff and it's thoroughly structurally tested and won't easily collapse in under 100 years even if all the stilts are destroyed.If the drive is a shithole it drops to about 50k. If it's going to collapse you couldn't pay me to live there.
>>541366498>But you do you.indeedily doodily
>>541366061Dont know why you linked me.I go grocery shopping about once a week- for things like milk and apples.I have a normal fridge in my cabin but also a chest freezer (and vacuum sealer to go with it). I dont plan my meals ahead but have my cabinets and fridge full of stuff I like.Here's some eggs from my hens.The chocolate colored ones are easy to source (Marans). So are the blues (Ameraucana, crested cream legbar). The green is just from crossing those two. But the "purple" is something special ive been working on for a couple years.
>>541362124that place is pretty nice actually
>>541366686>Dont know why you linked me.because it's hilarious he was attacking you for saying you went once a week, when he said he does as well
self identified trolls will never be real trolls
>>541366498you can get relatively far without AC but paying for more proper construction in the USA for LESS effect costs more than slapping on a $500-1k AC machine to some rooms or just a like $7k thing for all rooms.the USA mostly doesn't build houses to last anyhow so whatever better stuff you try to reduce heat for $50k or whatever in the USA is just another $50k loss in 30-60y kekit wouldn't have to be that way but in many regions you probably will feel like you can't even find a construction crew or the materials for less than like 700k-1m extra. "what are waterproof concrete basin cellars" heh.
>>541362383Not for that high-maintenance piece of shit that was obviously designed and built by retards high on some bullshit.
here is a video of the house if anyone is interestedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuV7ppsWsVIserious buyers only
>>541362124I am so jealous of the superrich, I saw this estate in Veneta, Oregon its the most beautiful thing I've ever seen and it hurts a lot like knowing a 10/10 IRL and knowing you can't have her without rape except I can't even rape a house. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/24218-Vaughn-Rd-Veneta-OR-97487/55516095_zpid/The houses are not like architectural masterpieces but its just because having four of them would be so sick and my whole family across the country could live there rent free. The lake with three fountains and that dock is exactly my dream I have always wanted my own private lake. Then you even get a 800 acre farm on top of that. Damn makes me almost shed a tear
>>541366400I was just trying to find pics of my driveway with the loblolly pines I planted a decade ago (cant find the pic i wanted). Theu grow 2-3 feet a year. I planted about 500 total across the property. Thwure like 25 feet tall now, its so weird.I have blueberries that are multiplying every year.Apples.crapped out. Same with peaches. Mostly due to me watering with jugs because I planted before I had a well and havemt gone back niw that I have unlimited water.Pears are doing good.I have a lot of live oaks and sawtooth oaks. Also jad a friend ship me burr oak acorns (largest acorn in north america- the size of a golf ball) i have 7 of them growing like crazy. Largest is bigger than I am now and I actually pulled one leaf last year to seal in plastic because it was about 12" long.I dig up pecan and black walnut sapplings thay sprouts at a friend's house to transplant. I have 12 pecan this year and 20 walnut. The pecan dont breed true so most will suck but free vs $50 a piece at the nursery.
>>541366925it's for someone who wants to be an airbnb grifter, not a mountain man larper.
>>541362124Gangstalkers can live there in order to harass anyone who makes it.It's all about cutting down the competition. There are too many people and not enough jobs. Plenty of tax dollars to waste on kike spies though.
>>541367180everyone says "ok schizo"; so, are you ok, schizo?
>>541367101Lol, is that really from the listing??Thats 100% built for "you can totally make money off this" and not "raise a family in paradise".Kinda sad really.
>>541367227Need the generator noise to STFU cause my dog sprained her paw. This shit is draining my creativity right now. I was on a roll with gamedev and TRYING to build something soundproof outside of the chemtrail rain and now I can't think of anything creative anymore or continue what I was doing. Generator noise can travel for miles and miles. 20 acres ain't enough. They don't sell properties that are sound-proof for a price anyone who isn't a freemason golem/chosen elite kikeoid can affordSo fucking ironic that they pollute the air with jets to make it rain because it hasn't been snowing enough due to pollution. These tards need to be overthrown.
>>541367508are you building a house out of pallets?not judging
>>541366400Found the pic i was loking for.So this isn't even the whole driveway, it just turns behind me and other trees block this view.This is about a quarter mile long. All the tall trees i planted when they were just 12" seedlings a decade ago. (The little trees that are in frame are "volunteers" that came up on their own since then).
>>541367508You could build soundproofing around the generator... Move the cooling loop, that part is pretty quiet.
>>541367230Yes, it's in the video link I posted. no one is raising a family up there. the webpage for the gated community this house is in says it's vacation homes and retirees. anyone who thinks they are going to be 31 and pulling off a trad larp life there has their head up their ass.
>>541367628Nah that's just a storage shed to keep the building materials dry. It's in a gulch which I will also have to build an earthen wall in to block more sound. I have to carry everything into the gulch by hand, there's no driveway. It's my best bet for getting away from gangstalkers as it's backed by public land and I have my own private hiking trail. Since she can't hike right now we can't get away from the noids. >>541367684I already honked at this faggot boomer piece of shit who tried wandering past me on a walk towards my property saying he was lost or some shit like a faggot and told him to fuck off then too. Since the cops aren't showing up the only rational thing to do is bide my time and build, but this is absolutely fucked. I can't concentrate now. Multiple fucking dogs barking too, these satanic freaks hate dogs like some sort of arabic chinese niggers. Fucking hate them so much I can't focus and be creative when I need to. Sucks.
>>541362594>no it aintThen it won't sell and he'll have to drop his price until it does. Surely you'll be able to swoop it up when it drops enough, right?
>>541367628No I'm pretty sure that's the anon who almost gave himself sepsis putting his cabin together last year. If it is he's sounding a whole lot worse for wear psychologically than he was back then.
