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All christkikes are schizophrenic freaks
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I know this hurts people's feelings by Mary was jewish
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>>541365196
Because your (((honoring))) looks another like worship.

It also smacks of lilithine demonic rites. Very jew coded.
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>>541365196
>Protes unable to understand the theological distinction between veneration and adoration for the nine millionth time the thread......
Extra Ecclesiam nulla Salus you schismatic heretic.
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>>541365196
Revelation 22:8–9
"And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou DO IT NOT: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: WORSHIP GOD."
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>>541365354
>it's ok because I called it a different word
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>>541365196
I'd rather cut my cock into a vagina than be a protestant heretic. I pray to Pope Leo and to Mother Mary, but never Jesus because he's too busy.
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>>541365354
Can't you read the scriptures? Are you that lazy?

"For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ JESUS;"
— 1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV)

"And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God MY SAVIOUR."
— Luke 1:46–47 (KJV)

What...? I thought Mary was sinless, why would she need a savior from her sins if she was sinlesss? Oh right, Catholics just made that up. Bunch of retards.
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>>541365196
early Christianity was a death cult and somehow is now a religion that praises being submissive and weak like they are virtues. the early sects would often deface pagan and egyptian murals/writings like modern Islam does today.
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>>541365196
Historically, there were huge rows over how to refer to Mary. This is back when Christians were roving packs of zealots whacking each other over theological issues. Council of Nimes or before, back when the post-Jesus folks were arguing about Christianity was going to be.
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>>541365196
>We don't worship God, we worship His mother
Sounds like some demonic pagan jew shit to me. Catholics are so creepy. Reptilian vibes
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>>541365196
>Mary in the bible: "all generations will call me blessed" (Lk 1:48)
>retarded bible hating protestant heretics: she's just some woman
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>>541365196
They're doing far more than honor, they're worshiping.
The distinction was defined by the council of Trent. Never pray to a saint to ask for anything other than prayers.
But I have a "Catholic" prayer book which is full of prayers asking for gibs, most of them to Mary.
The whole "brown scapular" thing? Heretical according to Trent.
Just before Trent, the pope said to stop killing Mary worshippers. The Mary worshipers took this as a green light to sell their pagan religion.
Then things went to hell after Pope Gregory XVI sold the faith to the Rothschilds. About that time women got property rights. The church needed a goddess to get them to leave their money to the church. Before, a man's wealth went to his sons, who then took care of their mothers.
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Jesus your moms telling everyone she thinks your crazy
Lol not my mother grubby bitch
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>>541365387
When you don't read your bible, you will become a catholic. So sad, are you even saved to begin with? Do you know what the gospel of christ is about?
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>>541365504
Abraham was blessed to have basically unending descendants and he's still just some nigger at the end of the day. Get over yourself fag.
>>541365540
That was satire.
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>>541365196
>>541365246
>>541365261
>>541365380
This thread will never be black.
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>>541365380
>>541365452
>>541365490
why u so mad?

refer to this post >>541365504

niggerlicious
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>>541365196
Demons, kikery infiltrated.
They hate Virgin Maria because Maria saves many souls, mine is included.
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>>541365196
Because thats Catholic
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>>541365354
Do you know the Catholic definition of veneration? Because if you say any prayer other than the Hail Mary, you're probably a heretic and blasphemer worshiping a false goddess.
NO PROMISES.
The Brown Scapular is NOT AND GET OUT OF HELL FREE card.
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>>541365591
Spic.
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>>541365540
The whole "you are saved" thing is heretical. You can't know.
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>>541365614
Kike
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>>541365585
This one's for you heretic.

"Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye." — Mark 7:13 (KJV)

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." — Colossians 2:8 (KJV)
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>>541365380
Soe cultures venerate their ancestors. You think they see them as gods?
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>>541365684
Even Jews are preferable to Catholics.
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>>541365591
She can't save souls, heretic bro. All she can do is pray for you.
There is one redeemer, Jesus Christ, the son of God. Not Mary.
One Paraclete, the Holy Ghosts, the Spirit of God. Not mary
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>>541365613
You are Evangelical, dont speak about heresy to me
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>>541365196
Pussy on a pedestal, fuck that bullshit.
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>>541365730
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>>541365730
You are Mexican, don't speak at all.
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>>541365196
I SEE A LOT OF JESUS AND MARY STARUES AND PRAYERS AND IMAGES BUT NO MENTION OF OUR FATHER GOD IN HEAVEN, FORGOT ABOUT GOD?
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>>541365591
>Maria saves many souls
Yep, it's MARY who died for our sins guys, sorry, our savior wasn't jesus but MARY. Retard.

"And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.

Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:"
— Acts 14:11–15 (KJV)

Even Paul himself rejected to be worshiped by men, but of course catholics don't know that cuz they don't read their bible.
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>>541365713
You are a jew or you are utterly retarded
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>>541365591
Based
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>>541365452
The Church has explicitly stated that Mary is not to be adored but only venerated. They have also outright rejected the title of Co-Redemtrix.

On the other hand across the various prote denominations you have faggot marriages, the ordination of women, and outright rejection of the divinity of our Lord and Saviour.

Guess leaving scriptural interpretation open to everyone wasn't the smartest thing to do. Oh well, enjoy your service celebrating sodomites at the First Church of Conspicuous Consumption est. 1995.
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>>541365591
Basically protrstaism is the Jews first psyop.
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>>541365692
yeah mary has nothing to do with the christ
>(KJV)
ahahahah ok jewish nigger

just chill your nuts fag
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>>541365713
Wut ? Catholics have always been the top notch of antisemitism in the Middle-Ages, literally
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Show me in the bible OT & NT where people pray to Moses, Abraham, ect. You can't and you won't cuz you know you're wrong.
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>>541365196
Because veneration of saints is very close to idolatry or polytheism.
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>>541365891
I don't care. They should go back to Europe. I've never met a Catholic who wasn't utterly foreign-seeming. They don't belong here. I'd happily exchange every Catholic invader in my country for a kike if I had to.
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>>541365780
>Evangelicals
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Kay. You fake catholics who worship mary, look at all the protestants you're sending to hell by making a bad example of the faith by worshiping a goddess.
You're literally leading children astray. Christ never said to worship his mother. No were is that in the Bible. She's bless, but so are the meek, blessed doesn't make you a goddess
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>>541365196
>W-We need to worship and also pray to Peter guys! He's like the first pope or something!

"And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. BUT Peter took him up, saying, STAND UP; I myself also am A MAN." — Acts 10:25–26 (KJV)

Bunch of retarded heretics.
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>>541365196
Many unhappy people deny and suppress the power of the maternal spirit.
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>>541365845
>Guess leaving scriptural interpretation open to everyone wasn't the smartest thing to do
It literally is open to everyone who can read tho (anendophasiasts need not apply)
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>>541365943
Cringe, the first europeans who "discovered" the Americas were catholics.
Literally all the best, and non-weird americans are catholics, like John F. Kennedy
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>>541365196
Matthew 12

46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
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>>541366122
Let's just say he got assassinated for a good reason... Stay in France. You deserve it.
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In England, protestant "churches" have parquet flooring and cheap plastic garden chairs. They look more like venues one might use to hold a youth disco or a knitting group for old ladies. They're not spiritual places. They have that weird "public" smell.

Protestant smell. It's a thing.
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>>541365943
cringe nigger, your country is a freemasonic jewish psyop shut your bitchmade ass up lil nig
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>>541366030
>being outside of the biggest congregation
>calling other heretic
ayy lmaaaoooo
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>>541366255
I intend on keeping that way.
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>>541366030
Are you aware that Catholic dogma says that Jesus has two natures, both human and divine ?
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>>541366291
A lie never lives to be old and your "nation", my circle signing friend, is a big fat LIE.
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>>541365196
Because goddess worship is extremely cringe.

>inb4 um actually when we kneel before statues of Mary and pray to Mary it's not worship it's just veneration OK?!
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>>541366566
You still owe a few more billion to Israel for the holocaust btw. Also how are your oil pipelines and nuclear plants doing? Make sure your churches keep helping those precious migrants while you're at it.
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>>541366219
Lol, look at how you heretics react when you enter a Catholic church
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>>541365196
>mfw it would take decades to stop the snowballing chain of antipopes and unconsecrate all the Bergog-Leo cardinals
>mfw not even religious and I ruminate over this regrettable situation for the church a lot
>mfw the establishment stooge Parolin over Leo's shoulder might have been even worse
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>>541365196
Because she was literally a whore who cucked her husband
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>>541365585
Nothing in my post indicates that I'm mad, you sweaty low effort mass replying retard. Must be projection from your priest fucking you in the ass when u were little, kek
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>>541366770
That's just some random foid.
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>>541366030
its true but seems a bit hard for subhumans to understand jesus>peter but peter was put in by jesus so it confuses them
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>>541366657
>Veneration is the same as adoration because of superficial similarities between actions. I am too mentally retarded to understand intent so they must be done for the same reason.
The mind of your average prote, I bet you also had breakfast this morning bud.
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>>541365196
because they ascribe to her aspects that only God/Jesus have

like the ability to forgive sins and save people, calling her co-redemptrix is blasphemous.
Acts 4:
>10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
>11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
>12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Giving her status as mediator that you pray to in order to pass along your prayers to God, instead of praying to the Father in the Son's name as instructed:
1 Timothy 2
>5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Mary is blessed above all women, don't get me wrong. But what you do is far beyond respect.
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>>541365196
faithfags are insane
there is no thought or reason in those heads of theirs, just a smattering of logic and some bullshit to stand it on
ask three faithers and you'll get five answers
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>>541366960
>No you see it's actually totally different when we pray to Mary we are not actually praying *to* her we are praying to her to pray for us.
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>>541365354
Yeah I'm sure the 60IQ spics make that artificial academic distinction right. The papists I know don't even know the difference between Old Testament and New Testament but I'm sure they definitely understand the difference between Latria and Dulia.
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>>541365196
Mother of Jesus, not God. Two completely separate entities, God never possessed Jesus and only conferred power unto him. You can't have a holy trinity when you ignorantly combine two of three.
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>>541365196
Marianism is a repackaged Semiramis religion.
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>>541366770
>religous symbolism all around her
>turns camera on self.
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>>541365504
she is blessed.
but you take it too far. Once you get to where you believe through faith that she personally can hear your prayers you are exercising faith in her, rather than Jesus. Only God is omniscient, and only God is omnipresent. Only God can read your thoughts, and only God can be with every believer as they pray. Mary is finite. She cannot be with each Catholic praying to her, nor is she able to hear localized speech she isn't present for, or read your thoughts. Nor is any human but the man Jesus Christ.
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>>541367284
Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man. it's a paradox, just like the trinity itself 3 persons 1 God, we say it but we don't really understand it.
Every attempt to make it into something we can understand like modalism gets destroyed as a heresy.
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>>541365196
>Why does honouring Mary the mother of God upset some Christians sects?

Mary wrecks modern women and feminism.

Mary represents chastity and obedience to God as the ultimate spiritual model in Christian and Catholic tradition.

Chastity
Virginity and Purity: Mary dedicated her virginity to God and is called the "Virgin of virgins" and the "standard-bearer of virginity".
Angel's Life on Earth: Her pure life served as an earthly reflection of heavenly holiness and an example of chastity for all believers.

Obedience to God
The Annunciation: Mary completely surrendered her own plans when she answered the Archangel Gabriel with radical trust: "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word".
Undoing Eve's Disobedience: Church tradition views her fiat (consent) as the counter-act to Eve's disobedience, famously summarized by early Church Fathers: "Death through Eve, life through Mary"
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>>541367150
By looking at it on the internet. You have to be as dense as a protestant to don't know the difference

Veneration is the deep respect given to a created holy person or figure (like saints or angels), while worship is the ultimate devotion and absolute submission reserved exclusively for God.

Key Differences

The Object:Worship (latria) is directed only to God.Veneration (dulia) is directed to holy humans or angels.
The Purpose:Worship recognizes God as the creator and supreme authority.

Veneration honors a saint's holy life and asks them to pray to God on your behalf.
The Action:Worship involves sacrifice, total surrender, and adoration.
Veneration involves keeping pictures, lighting candles, or naming churches to remember their faith.
Denominational Views:Catholic and Orthodox Christians strictly separate the two concepts to avoid idolatry.
Protestant Christians generally view them as the same thing and believe devotion should go to God alone.
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>>541365380
mutt education is truly something else
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>>541365196
Because evangelicals are retarded
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>>541367520
>Mary is the ultimate spiritual model

Jesus is our model. The second Adam.

The absolute state of Papists...
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>>541367458
It's literal heresy to call Jesus as God, when he himself denied being the father incarnate. If you want some more heresy, you may as well call Jesus a "successful" type of Nephiilim, touched by the geas (will) of God to display the possibilities of mankind's goodness.
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>>541365196
mary was jewish and a circumsizer.
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>>541367658
Fuck off heretic. The one thing the Catholics got right was massacring you arian shitheads.
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>>541367715
You are feeding him.
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>>541367646
They're not mutually exclusive. A father and a mother are model. Epic heroes/saints are models
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>>541366770
Those doors are by far the least cool thing in the Basilica what's the big deal and why don't they ever open them, does the draft make the pope's voice hoarse
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>>541367458
Jesus Christ is the word made flesh. Simple as
"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God". He always was, and came into the world for a time to save men from their sin.
Without going into terms like "trinity" and "godhead" etc.
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>>541367738
No one is good except God. There are no models.

Only the Holy Spirit can sanctify a person - no amount of human effort or striving to imitate a model can save us.
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>>541367658
Zechariah 9
>14 And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.
>15 The Lord of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar.
>16 And the Lord their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.

Matthew 24
>27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
>28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
>29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
>30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
>31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Jesus said He is the Lord God who will be seen over them and blow the trumpet and save them.
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>>541365196
> King David was the great-great-great-great-grampops of God
Catholshits are so retarded.
Enjoy bringing up your stupid mental gymnastics to justify your idolatry on judgement day.
Better pray to St. Erazzledazzimus, patron saint #134976 of white lies right now!
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>>541367715
A literal jew created the Catholic church, a betrayer of Jesus feigning repentance and having to devise an entirely new belief system to absolve himself of blame. You are a demon working contrary to Jesus's teachings.
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>>541367821
Reconcile previous verses where he denies being the father, that no one comes before his father including himself.
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>>541367791
it's not so simple.

Revelation 5
>6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
>7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
>8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
2 beings here seen and worshiped as God, but they are the same God.

Revelation 7
>9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
>10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

while we never really "see" the Holy Spirit as a distinct person in these passages, what we do see is 2 distinct persons, God on the Throne, and the Lamb. Both are worshiped as God.
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>>541367939
the Father and Son are distinct persons.. yet are one.

John 14
>6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
>8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
>9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
>10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
>11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
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>>541365354
Why do prodies get so titty twisted about mary
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>>541365196
It's not biblical. That's why

If you look at the New Testament, it's vitually entirely about Jesus Christ; about 100%. If you look at how much the New Testament talks about Mary, you'd have to turn to the Gospels, and there she's discussed in less than <1% of the content. The Words of Jesus in the Gospels alone make up between 35% to 60% of its content in addition to all the things that others say about him.
If you went to a Catholic mass or read Catholic devotionals, you'd think the Bible talks more about Mary than Jesus but it doesn't.

You would think the Bible is a good indicator of what you should focus on but Catholics don't seem to think so.
It gets even worse when you take into account how much time Catholics spend talking about and praying to saints.

I left the Catholic Church and never turned back.
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>>541368017
This doesn't upset me, shitskin. Post moar for the lulz.

>>541368037
You're posting a lot of verses but omitting the contradictions from others to suit your narrative. The father's light and spirit shown through Jesus is not the same as being God himself. No others come before God in worship and that includes Jesus, Jesus was our example, a path for men to reach the father.
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>>541367856
I can get the Deity of Christ from sources other than Paul. I can get it even from the Old Testament.

Isaiah 9
>6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.

Micah 5
>2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; WHOSE GOINGS FORTH HAVE BEEN FROM OF OLD, FROM EVERLASTING.

However normally I go with John since he's clearest aside from Paul. I know that Muslims attack Paul, so, I'll play their game and use John, or the Old Testament.

YOU Ascribe to Jesus, creating a clay pigeon, speaking it alive, and it flew away. You have Jesus creating the same way God created Adam.
Here's a tidbit for you, Isa will do this again according to our bible:

Revelation 13
>11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
>12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
>13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
>14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
>15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


Let's see that last line.. the False Prophet has men create a body for the Image of the Beast... then the False Prophet, Isa, gives it life.. just like the clay pigeon.
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>>541365354
>>541368108

It comes down to wether you think the Bible is the Word of God and therefore the supreme authority on all matters of faith and life.
Catholics don't teach that. They teach tradition and the teachings of the Pope trump the word of God. It's blasphemy.


>6And He said to them,“Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
>‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
>7‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
>8Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to thetradition of men.”

>(Mark 7:6-8)
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>>541368231
So you reject Paul, reject the divinity of Jesus Christ. Both of which show you are theologically and historically inept. Do belong to any church/sect at all or do you think you Don't Need No Church.
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>>541368231
it's not a contradiction.
It's the doctrine of the Trinity. It's a paradox, but not a contradiction. Jesus and the Father are one, and yet Jesus and the Father are distinct persons.

Us not grasping the concept fully does not make it not true.
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>Mary was 14 when she was impregnated and gave birth to Jesus
>Muhammed is a pedo but God isn't
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Mary was just a vessel at best, a complete whore at worst. There is nothing divine about her.
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>>541368456
we don't have an official age for Mary
we do have an official age for Aisha.
Mary even at that young of an age was pubescent
Aisha was prepubescent, even when Muhammad first consummated the marriage.
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>>541368281
Muslims are a jewish creation, some text might be useful merely as a reference to what changes they tried to implement by infiltrating Christianity since the beginnings. The entire concept of islam is a humiliation ritual against arabs that dared to go against the kingdom of judah, arabs tried to repurpose it for their own ends but the holes still show through in its older texts. I ascribe nothing to Jesus, in his own word he has denied being his father but his father's spirit was always with him, God shown THROUGH him as a conduit. You and others like you are projecting God onto Jesus thanks to jews twisting the word, thus creating an idol before God. Nevermind papacy creating its own idols.
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>>541368624
the Deity of Christ is all over scripture even in the Old Testament I literally just showed it.
but you want to be Arian if you're not Muslim.
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>>541368281
>then the False Prophet, Isa, gives it life.. just like the clay pigeon
Nope. It says with the permission of God. By himself jesus can't do anything, only with what God allows him to do.
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>>541368688
Isa animating the image of the beast (the Mahdi) "with Satallah's permission" will be the very thing that you will use to verify your claims of your religion being right.
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>>541365196
Catholicism is literally IDOL WORSHIP.
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>>541368354
I reject Paul, Jesus was divine and his father's spirit had shown through him, died for our sins and ascended rightly. Being an apostle doesn't mean one cannot sin as Judas clearly proved.

>>541368365
It's bollocks is what it is. A trinity can't be a trinity without three, they are not one and the same but interact without being interchangeable.

>>541368684
I prefer to be Christian rather than some jew's slave.
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>>541368768
Jesus is a Jew, and the Apostles all described themselves as bondservants of Christ (Bondservant is another word for slave).
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>>541365261
>trying to create a fake rhetorical contradiction while ignoring history
oh gee wonder which desert faggot culture is trying that...
>picrel
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>>541368759
Absolutely zero safeguards for this Catholic shit
>Ackshually, we technically say VENERATION, so you can't accuse us of worship at all and leading people down that path
>But of course, we'll throw massive feasts for her, line up statues of her everywhere, make prayers for her, and heap titles on her so that the average Catholic will get the wrong impression
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Den of diddling dervishes, delivering the diabolical deeds delegated by the Devil.
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>>541369091
if this is not idolatry, I don't know what is.
they don't even care about JC, only about Mary.
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>>541365196
Man worship has gone too far.
It turned into wo-man worship.
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Its amazing. When crossniggers aren't worshiping a rabbi they're worshiping the rabbis jewish mom.
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>>541365196
Catholicism is the one true faith. The rest of you are vile heretics who need to be skinned alive. Like dude id rather have all my neighbors be fucking muslims than have a single one be protestants.
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>>541369176
This shit has fuck all to do with desert jew worship. It's just straight up Isis/Primordial mother goddess worship with a Christnigger spin.
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The idea of the mother is an important figure in any functioning culture. If you can't accept that then I'm convinced you aren't even civilized. Or maybe demoralized.
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>>541365196
who cares what prots think about anything.
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>>541365469
It's still a death cult. The entire point of the religion is to empower a global jewish empire so yeshua returns and ends the world.

It doesn't need to spread by sword anymore because its much easier to buy cheap nigger souls with gibs.
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>>541368836
Jesus was born of the tribe of Judah, he had to be because God knew the tribe was running headlong towards damnation. Jesus was living proof that a jew could be saved if they followed the righteous path to God, instead of making a life of enriching only themselves. Despite this many jews rejected him to create judaism, a large sect of hebrews mainly of the Judah tribe that wholly-rejected Christianity. You act like there are not men who would try to lie in the face of God and yet they do so daily increasingly openly, the jews KNOW what they are doing, catholics KNOW what they are doing. Sending lambs to slaughter at the feet of idols.
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>>541365196
>honoring a hoe
imagine being a cuck and when your bastard son gets born 3 random dudes show up and give your whore gifts, mary had a little gangbang and called it an immaculate conception lmao
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>>541368759
This is one of the cringiest things I have ever read. Jesus Christ.
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>>541369295
OK, KIKE
Keep seething.
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>>541365261
Ok? And?
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>>541365196

I hope Mary and St. Andrew will pray for me and my oneitis to make mends.
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>>541369363
It's a corrupted religion.
They had too many councils, have altered their dogma too many times, and have turned Christianity into a corrupted shadow of what it originally was
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>>541369366
Here's your (you) since you're so desperate for it, lil fella.
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>>541365713
Christians are spiritual jews. So sure.
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Did you know that in original Hebrew Mary was not described as a virgin but just as a young lady?
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>>541369488
Thanks rabbi.
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>>541369607
Your image is fake.

https://brothke.medium.com/no-rabbi-kaduri-did-not-write-a-note-saying-jesus-is-the-messiah-d807d1e4977c
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>>541369353
>works salvation
and there it is
the true mark of a condemned heretic.
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>>541369607
Jews dont believe jesus was the messiah but theyre very grateful for the existence of goy cattle christ cucks like yourself.
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>>541366325
>Jesus has two natures
Fake and gay
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>>541369467
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>>541367856
A literal jew created Christianity. What difference does it make?
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>>541365490
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>>541368624
>Muslims are a jewish creation
Like Christians.
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>>541365196
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>>541368768
>prefer to be Christian rather than some jew's slave

You're in luck. By being Christian You're also a jew slave.
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>>541369687
Works aren't the goal and don't grant salvation, it's just part of living a righteous life with God.
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>>541369357
Christians unironically worship cuckery.
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>>541368768
so you affirm Jesus is divine, but reject He shares divinity with the Father? How does that work? He's just a little bit divine? All powerful (he created everything) but not eternal? And what is the Scriptural basis of your views?
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Once you realise /pol/ is just a pit of Muslim diaspora and third worlders on a VPN, you can't unsee it.
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>>541370029
you have Jews being possibly saved by living righteously, that is works salvation.
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>>541369467
The Vatican oversees child abuse on a global scale. The pope is an anti-Christ. In Christ alone my hope is found.
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>>541365196
Because they worship Mammon who tells them Greed is Good and sin can be washed away solely with water and Faith Alone will save them, no matter how much they sin. He tells the they don't have to confess, they don't have to repent, they don't have to feel guilty about a thing. Just dunk your head, get born again, proclaim you have a personal Lord and Savior, and get right back to mortal sin after mortal sin. St. Peter will judge them harshly, I think. But this is what they believe. No free will. So be as terrible a person as you'd like.
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>>541366705
>mad
holohoax never happened btw lil lying yidbro
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>>541365246
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>>541369488
>le christcuck le christcuck
mentally raped... can't you stop a second to think that perhaps not every evil of this world is caused by da joooz but by shabbo goylems too ?
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>>541366827
you're alright anon
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>>541368759
Cool, so it is a pagan religion, /pol and folk don't need to larp anymore just convert to catholicism
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>>541365196
Because they are judaizers, as Paul said... they worship a people that don't exists anymore lol
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>>541366893
>le catholic rape priest meme
do some research and see if prottie or catholic priests pummeled more shota buts and get back to me :))
for next time before you reply with brainless psyops perpetuated by goymany public media :DD
chill my fiendish niggerly friend
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But the translation ot the Greek prototype text isnt continue, it is stay "μένων". If they stay in Jesus word they are true students.
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>>541370412
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>>541365196
>pregnant
>virgin
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>>541369885
>>541369954
Christianity is just the name of the new covenant, it was created by the only jew that mattered, he chose to stand by Hebrew teachings rather than jewish ones.

>>541369994
I chose to turn to God of my own will. I could potentially become an apostate but the pain of never knowing the grace of the holy spirit again would torment me forever.

>>541370049
I reject the notion that they are one and the same. That's all. Jesus died as a man who occasionally worked miracles normally attributed to God, he chose to walk to that end and could only do so much as a man. When he ascended he was no longer bound by mortal constraints, he was allowed to exert his full potential as the father's son. The bible describes all of this, it's not some esoteric lost scripture.

>>541370077
To be Christian they would have to shed any connection they have to judaism, that entails becoming an apostate in the eyes of their former religion, it means not trying to enforce "jew" as a race of people when it never was one. They would have to hold true in their hearts that Jesus died for their sins, that there is no other God before the father. That is something that must occur between God and jews, not works but actual salvation, works if any should come from the heart or not at all.
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>>541365196
She's still a human. You can use her as an example to follow, you can respect her. But she's not a God. Though, Christianity is ripe with saints of "demigod" status; fulfilling the role of niche worship just like in paganism. If you didn't know any better, you would think Silesia have their own demigoddess Barbara. Ireland has Patrick, and Poland has JPII. People just don't comprehend it's heretical as fuck. God is really jealous, and does not mess around if you go and invent new idols.
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>>541365899
>Moses, Abraham
They aren't the mother of God. U dum?
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>>541365196
They're actually performing idolatry and it's an example of simping too. I argue Christianity is Woke 1.0, but that's another topic. I don't understand how you can look at what they're doing and not see it all as idolatry. Even the classic Hail Mary prayer shows where instead of praying and worshipping God, they're outright praying to this random (former) human woman. Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian. I shall remind you desert cult Jew worshippers:

>"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

>Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

>"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

>Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

>And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
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>>541365196
God doesn't have a mother, Mary was the mother of the human Jesus, she was not the mother of God the Son who is co-eternal with God the Father and the Holy Spirit.
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Can someone explain sola fide to me?
If all you need is faith, why do a lot of protestant denominations have all these other rules and traditions. It kinda feels like cognitive dissonant behaviour to overcompensate for a hidden lack of faith.
Theoretically I could call God a faggot, but if I truly believe, still have more faith than them.
Or does faith imply good deeds?
Genuine question, I'm not really religious
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>>541365196
Because she didn’t do anything
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>>541370758
>why do a lot of protestant denominations have all these other rules and traditions
Culture blending mostly, those people chose to adapt Christianity to their culture rather than adapt their culture to Christianity. A lot of prots are lost.
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>>541370758
faith produces works. Someone with faith would never call God that word. "Faith alone, but faith is never alone". A living faith is one that strives to obey Jesus. You will still fail because human nature is corrupt but there will be sincere repentance and contrition. And even your faith itself is not your own doing, it's maintained by God through the Word and the Sacrements. Which is why regular Church attendence and fellowship is very important.
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>>541368836
>Jesus is a Jew
nope. israelite yes, hebrew maybe, jew? definitely NOT
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>>541369885
>A literal jew created Christianity
noo JESUS, there were no jews at that time. "jews" didn't exist until way later
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>>541365196
Catholics are Pharisees and the bible is a bulwark against the traditions of men. Also tradlarpers are weird snobs and the least Christ-like people I've ever met
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>>541371016
>the bible is a bulwark against the traditions of men
Then explain why so many prote denominations have been willing to change their doctrines to suit western post-enlightenment liberal beliefs.

Your Archbishop of Canterbury is a woman who believes in fag marriages. What is an ordained woman supporting fags if not the current "traditions of men". While there are some aspects of post-concillar Catholicism that are questionable, the dogma of the Catholic Church today is still closer to the beliefs of a 16th Century Catholic than the current Anglican beliefs are to a 16th Century Anglican.
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>>541365196
you mean your idolatry of mary?
who knows
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>>541370941
He is the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

Jew = Tribe of Judah, living in the land of Judea.
That is where Judaism comes from, the religion of the tribe of Judah that lived in the land of Judea.
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>>541369522
are you retarded? the new testament was written in grreeeeeeeek you nigger
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>>541369669
your religion is fake you kike nigger filth. digusting jew.
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>>541365196
>Jehovah … is a full-blooded Nazi … He is this according to seven criteria:

>1. He demands racism.
>2. He demands ethnic cleansing.
>3. He demands ideological irreconcilability.
>4. He opposes peace agreements.
>5. He despises women deeply and perceives them to be mainly reproductive organs.
>6. He adores violence and physical strength.
>7. He has a chosen people that he gives a mission to to drive away or conquer all that stand in the way for their supremacy.

>This is not a malicious depiction. It can be attested with hundreds of quotations, and it appears throughout the entire spiritual and psychological climate that is present in the Old Testament. For a long time, it has been impossible even to talk about the great inner similarity between Nazism and the Old Testament God.

>–Moberg, Eva. 2000a. ‘Du skall inga andra gudar hava jämte mig’ (Thou shall have no other gods before me), Ordfront Magasin 1–2: 44–50.

They don't realize that Jesus was opposed to "Jehovah"; they're on the wrong side, thanks to the Old Testament... which Jesus tried to get rid of...
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>>541370941
He was born of the tribe of Judah, it's historical fact ordained by prophecy of the old testament, the word of God. That doesn't mean he was jewish, he tried to pry the tribe away from proto-judaism (the cult of self-enrichment through talmud) and it's worth noting that the "religion" of judaism didn't actually exist until after the ascension. There has been a lot of pilpul with jews over the centuries purporting that "jewish" is synonymous with "hebrew" but that is not true, jews distinctly set themselves apart from hebrews by rejecting their Lord and turning their backs to God. They are a WILLINGLY lost people who work to turn all of God's creation against him, comparing them to hebrews who were either faithful or ignorant is well...insulting. They should be denounced whenever they present themselves by all Christians.
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>>541370758
>why do a lot of protestant denominations have all these other rules and traditions
Because most Protestants came from the Catholic Church and kept a lot of the bs Catholic traditions when they founded their own churches. "Protestant" groups that never came from the Catholic Church, like Baptists have significantly fewer traditions.
>Theoretically I could call God a faggot, but if I truly believe, still have more faith than them.
>Or does faith imply good deeds?
When you're Born Again, God changes your heart and good deeds follow. But good deeds don't get you into heaven they're merely a sign a change God has made to you. And by the same metric you can backslide and commit horrible sins and die and still go to heaven if you're saved, or maybe you were never saved you were just pretending and then you go to hell but that's between you and God it's not for me to say.
The reason why your deeds don't matter is because you sin everyday, there is no amount of good deeds you could ever do to balance the scales you are bound for hell, however God came down to earth and became the sacrifice for your sins, all the sins you could ever commit have already been payed for but it requires you to truly repent for your sins and to have faith in the Son of God. That's Sola Fide.
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>>541365196
We just worry about Rome and their proclivity to idolatry. They get carried away sometimes, and we have to remind of things like the authority of Scripture and The Trinity and whatnot.
We want that library open, btw. We REALLY want that library open.
Why not? Name one good reason for keeping that hidden. There isn't one.
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>>541371491
Yes. Gospel of John has many clues about Jesus opposing Jehovah and pointing to his Father instead.
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>>541371625
I bet they have a super secret library in addition to their secret library. Maybe even a triple secret library. I want into all of them. I bet they have SO many things scholars assume to be totally lost.
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Catholicism is proof that you need polytheism to make sense of the world. Monotheism doesn't work.
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>>541371565
eh, as an IFB there's still quite a few "Church Traditions" rules that aren't biblical. A lot of baptists believe you have to be teetotalers for instance.
Bible doesn't forbid alcohol, Bible forbids getting drunk there is a difference.
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>>541365261
>>541369390
She was quintessentially Jewish.
She went through the hoops of inventing an archangel intervention, claimed to be impregnated by god himself, mkultra his son to invent a new religion.
And all this to avoid admitting having been raped to her husband Joseph
Unbelievable
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>>541365196
That effort should go into glazing Israel and the Jewish people you filthy Sodomite
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GOD IS A MAN
GOD HAS A BEARD AND A PENIS
HE DISCOVERED AMERICA IS WHAT HE DID!
HE WAS A GREAT ITALIAN EXPLORER!
AND IN THIS HOUSE THE LORD ALMIGHTY MASCULINE STRONG BEARDED LAW BRINGING GOD IS A HERO
END
OF
STORY!
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Some points for consideration:

1. The first commandment after the first 4 (about God) is to honor thy father and mother. So what kind of honor can one give their father/mother that doesn't go against common protestant arguments to give honor only to God?

2. If you believe in prayer, who do you ask to pray for you? The homeless meth addict who can't understand what you're asking, or the most holy person you know? Catholics believe that the saints do pray for us, and are more holy than anyone living by nature of being in heaven with God.

3. Rather than trying to figure out how to disprove these Catholic perspectives, it's quite helpful to think about how close one can get to the truth and God (same thing) and challenge oneself against the best arguments Catholicism offers, rather than rejoicing over victories against the weakest straw-men arguments. Every post that defeats a straw-man just reveals a bad actor, and anyone interested in truth sees than.

If you consider these points, you are doomed to find the truth. So don't do so honestly unless you are open to discovering it.
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>>541371662
Of course, you need to be a Catholic priest to access the secret library, but even then you won’t have access to the secret part. You need to be a cardinal for that.
Finally, you will never be nominated a cardinal if you ever tried to access the secret library, or if you are the kind of person who would care about the secret library. They’ll understand it.
The only way for you to access that library is to become some kind of high level philologist and scholar, and put all your effort into the church and those secret books. Also to be the kind of person that is not interested by power and they can trust with secrets.
Even then, you are probably going to get access to the most secret part only in the final years of your life, if you are lucky
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>>541371740
That looks surprisingly more similar to our god kek than ((their)) moloch
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>>541371271
They are free to leave their churches when they fall into error, that's the whole point. They're not forced to defend the institution no matter what it does.
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>>541371910
Good point me
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>>541371563
Well, he was also specifying some things. Even in that day, being a "Jew" was an increasingly nebulous thing. Herod, for example, was not technically a jew. I can't remember exactly what he was...maybe an Edomite or Samarian. I'm not sure, but I do remember learning that he was not Israelite. And there were other groups that glommed onto the Judeand at that time and called themselves jews...the legitimate part of which was just Judah, Benjamin and probably some segment of Levites.
But Jesus was in all ways legit in his lineage. In that day, and ending not long after, they still had their genealogies intact. Back then, some could trace their ancestry to Adam. In Genesis, we have all Abraham's fathers to Adam. And then Abraham to David. Then David to Jesus. And they list them in two separate Gospels. He was in the line of David through Solomon.
I don't bristle at the use of the term "Jew". There's scant to no genetic relationship between the two. I do indeed believe Herod completely destroyed Jewry. It's clear they almost all converted to either Christianity or Islam. Most died. Herod really did wipe them out. It was absolutely brutal. A long and horrifying siege followed by a bloodbath. Those who escaped made great pains not identify themselves as Jews. It was very dangerous.
And that makes current events all the more interesting, dynamic and fluid.
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>>541365196
In Islam, Sunnis and Shia fight over Aisha (pbuh). She is subject to insults.
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>>541371388
hitler digits refer to this anons good post and dont @ me bitch >>541371563

>>541371563
very nicely worded my niggur, very well put. only caveat is glossing over the whole nazarene/essene stuff and that Jesus was probably a celtic galilean (white)
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>>541365196
Meanwhile Jews openly despise the blessed mother
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>>541371947
just wait for technology to see through walls come and look for the library. and then dig underground to the library but not in a way ppl will think you are tunnelling like a new york jew
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>>541371947
No. The best way is for a new Napoleon type character to just open it up. You know, slice through the Gordian Knot with a single and decicive blow. Such a man would know how to get their attention. He also wouldn't brook any shenanigans trying to hide certain tomes or, God forbid, destroy anything. That would be a serious and very grave mistake.
I have an uncle (in law) who's a monsignor. He was close with Benedict. He has a whole museum of all these antiques. Lots of very fascinating stuff. I wonder if he would let me borrow the key to the double secret library? That would be mighty white of him. They're a family from Polermo that has priests going back hundreds and hundreds of years. Their name literally means 'painted priest'. Pretty fascinating stuff. They're blue eyed Sicilians.
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>>541365705
Some cultures idolize their ancestors
>NOOOO not that word!
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>>541370278
>brazil niggermonkey flag
>lecturing anyone
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>>541365845
Don't you have a pope who admitted hell isn't real and the entire religion is an indulgence racket?
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>>541365657
If you don't know if you are saved are not, you are not. When the spirit of God lives inside of you, you know it. People are saved in baptism, and not infant baptism. Just like how it happened in the Bible, not the strange traditions of men.
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>>541365363
>entire thread ignores this
>mods don't ban the obvious troll oP
>fat black gorilla nigger site admin will continue larping as a philosopher on twitter
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>>541371426
you are following a jewish religion
worshipping a circumsized jewish rabbi
and calling me a jew

this is some next level christkike schizophrenia
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>>541372079
>It was absolutely brutal.
We can find an accurate albeit emotional description in the book of the apocalypse
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>>541370758
I know its hard to understand but you just change once Jesus touches your heart. You have to invite him in though.
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>>541365363
>John: but I am simply adoring you. Learn the difference.
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>>541372371
>schizophrenia is totally real please buy my products
you sold your soul to a pedophile's pyramid scam now all that's left of your life is to desperately shill for it by your very mind, tongue and breath til the day you drop dead
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Can I please have a religion and idealogy founded by someone who didn't have a Jewish parent?
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>>541369353
Not really, judging by the blood licking and roman history, it wasn't Israelite/judahite blood that created rabbinic judaism ~300 years after the temple fell.
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>>541372371
Define jew
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>>541367622
Sorry I guess I wasn't paying attention in veneration class.
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>>541370278
>>541372329
But he's right. You literally worship jews through your christcuckery cult
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all anti-Christian posts are spiritually indian and jewish
especially the anti catholic ones
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>>541372824
reminder that when elon made all account on x show country of origin most of the christcuck accounts were operated out of india
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>>541372824
>you are a jew if you don't worship that particular jew

Christcuck logic course 101
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>>541365261
She was also a cheating cockhopper.
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>>541372886
Funnily enough the Pagan ones were too, almost like the whole thing was engagement baiting on both sides for rupees from kikes
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>>541365196
we do not worship mary, we ask her to pray for us, as we are told to do
>"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."
- James 5:16

and yes, the saints are alive in heaven
>"Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”"
- Luke 23:43

where they pray to god
>"When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been."
- Revelation 6:9-11
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>>541365246
the scientists in your science books are christian
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>>541365469
>pagan men worship gods of war
and christian men defeat them time and again
>pagan women worship goddesses of fertility
and christian women are more fertile

you worship demons
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimon
who rape you
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mythological_rape_victims
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>>541368759
>>541369091
>>541369363
>>541370300
according to AI, this image is from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glories_of_Mary
which was not originally in english, so this would be a mistranslation
it would be more accurate to say "I venerate thee” / “I honor thee” / “I reverence thee"
meaning, not to the same degree as honoring god

>most of all do i thank thee for having saved me from hell.
>in thee i put all my trust, all my hope of salvation.
this again is in reference to mary as an advocate. an intercessor. not as a source of salvation
the rest of the passage explains that she has influence with god (as james 5:16 suggests), as a helper of the sinners.

do i personally think it's over the top? sure.
but it's not necessarily blasphemous if understood as it was meant.
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>>541369693
>Leif Erikson
was a christian
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Erikson
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>>541369790
>black sun
the national socialists have always advocated for christianity
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KA
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>>541369863
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>>541369909
it is the pagans who call their own gods demons
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimon
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>>541370046
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>>541370758
>What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
>Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
>For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
-James 2:14-26

salvation is by grace
but your works are the fruit of your faith
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>>541371663
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>>541372329
majority of atheists and pagans are non-white
majority of whites are christian
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>>541372371
the religion of the jews is satanism
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>>541372886
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>>541365196
Marys not my mom
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>>541372297
>use completely different word with completely different meaning
>nooo you cant call me out on it!

why would you post this? do you even understand how stupid it makes you look?
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>>541365354
>Even attempting to reason with anti-Mary psychos
It’s a losing game for sure.
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>>541365452
>"For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ JESUS;"
>— 1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV)
yes, b-but ch-church doctrine, the church traditions.....THE CHURCH FATHERS!!!!

>Luke 11:27-18
>27Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
>28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
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>>541365845
how about the catholics instead concentrate on obeying the father instead of worshipping the dead?

instead of murdering all the saints that didn't agree with your satanic doctrines, how about you do the work of God? yeh?
no, you rather do the work of satan while pretending to be servants of God.
how many saints did the catholic church murder only to later canonize them as saints?

repent
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>>541365196
>desert cultists are whining about gay nonsensical shit again
very surprising
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>>541371271
>Then explain why so many prote denominations have been willing to change their doctrines to suit western post-enlightenment liberal beliefs.
because they strayed from the written word of God? and like the catholic church, invented doctrines that fit their carnal desires?

are you daft?
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>>541375446
how about you ask the living to pray for you and call on Jesus to intercede for you, you do know that the dead, while alive with christ, dont know what happens in the realm of the living, right?
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>>541365196

Some Sects like Protestants In USA are
Basically Forced Convertites from Judaism back in Europe 1400 -1650 Migrated to New promissed land!

Jews aka Protestants do not like image of God or saints !

So...

Any more Questions on why USA support Israhell?

x)

No?
x)
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>>541365196
gentiles need a mother goddess. it was an oversight to not give them one.
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It's a blasphemous act of simping and overturning Order to push some feminist malarky. God made MAN in His image and then made woman out of mud and one of Adam's ribs. Eve was a vessel of mud imbued with a smidge of divinity, just as Mary was a vessel of mud that the Holy Spirit filled with His Son. MEN are wrought in GOD's image, women are a support class created to serve MEN.
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>>541365196
Protestants aren't Christian.
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>>541377744
>how about you ask the living to pray for you
There are no dead with Christ.
(Unless you're a protestant, then you're gonna die and go to hell to be with Mohammed, Joseph Smith, Calvin and other fellow heresiarchs.)
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>>541377834
Bingo!!!
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Christianity is a desert nigger death cult that jews spread in an attempt to make the rest of the world meek and submissive so they would be easier to control. Every major figure in the Bible that is venerated and worshipped was a jew.
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>one true word of god
>45,000 to 47,000 Christian denominations globally
this is all you need to know that all of it is bullshit really.
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>>541365196
Satanist here

Mary and the Holy Ghost are Satan
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>>541375460
the shirt hes wearing is interesting because the symbol is binah. this is a fantastic meme.
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Catholics don't "honor" Mary, they worship her. They also worship the saints. Catholicism violates the first Commandment just by existing.
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>>541369488
checked
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>>541365452
Don't bother. Catholics have been brainwashed since birth, you cannot reach them. They have wool in their ears. You'd sooner convince a Jew that Jesus was the true Messiah than to convince a Catholic that intercession is false and that their use of Mary is the definition of idolatry. Parts of catholicism are basically satanic but they will never see it.
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>>541375680
>majority of whites are christian
beautiful cope
and how many of those "christian" "whites" actually practice your gay slave cult rituals
how many are just "christian" on paper
I bet you never even thought about that when posting those worthless stastistics you fucking retard
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>>541369488
Fake and gay
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVOYpPpjYhTUHXycJrY6P2I
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>>541365196
It’s inconsequential because chriggers are retarded.
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oh look cut dick mutts being mad at Catholics again
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>>541377979
oh shut the fuck up
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>>541378223
biggest, oldest and foundational congregation
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>>541378610
Means nothing when it's wrong.
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>>541378978
not. an. argument. :D
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>>541365196
The Mary worship is downright bizzare.
More songs to glorify Mary than god.
More prayers to Mary than to god.

"B-but we're not RELALY worshiping, we're venerating!"
Yeah, weak. Just like your faith.
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I am against idolatry of any kind, including statues of Mary or Jesus or even God himself. You attach too much importance to material things, turning them into circuses and theatre.
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>>541379527
The whole ass Christianity is a offshoot of a matrilineal schizo desert nigger tribe's religion does it really suprises you they worship a woman rather than their actual god?
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>>541365261
This
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The ALL-KNOWING, INFALLIBLE god will be swayed because you prayed to a saint.

The stupidity of this never ceaes to amaze me. Either god will hear your prayer or he will not.

Praying for saints to intercede on your behalf is so pathetic and downright insulting TO GOD. It fees so duplicious, like asking your connected cousin to pul lsome strings to reduce your sentanc for some petty crime, like the court of god is some corrupt, mellable, terrestrial courthouse where bribes and backroom deals are possible....
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>>541379598
What about the King James bible?
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>>541365196
>>541379753
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>>541376602
just accept that all the good aspects of christianity are traits of Aryan ethnoreligion, lifted to sell the product
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>>541379751
You're not supposed to worship the bible. It's a tool to read and understand the lord. If you're putting it on a pedestal and bowing to it, then you've turned it into an idol.
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>>541368108
Also it's great how easily christians prove that the religion was never designed to unifiy, as you hate one another more than anything (except for Whites)
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>>541379851
So you're against pedestals and bowing, not idolatry per se?

Can I frame the Bible in a way that doesn't involve a pedestal, say, a table or a hammock?
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>>541375597
Yeah Loki is evil and no one worshipped him
>daimon
>different languages are different
And you'd think (you) would understand this, given how christianity gets every drop of it's credibility by stealing shit from Rome. This is a thread about the Pontifex Maximus, after all
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>>541366047
it's a sign of the Aryan's need for a pantheon. Just accept that you worship a jewish fertility goddess
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>>541366325
oh hey, that one is stolen from Herakles. Post some more
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>>541380018
Your american.. you worship kikes. Don't try to bring in old norse converts into your sick scheme.
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Mary was an adultress who cucked her husband and tried to cover it up by claiming the kid was conceived through divine means and that she has a "vision from God" that the bastard child would be the destined Messiah. She brought the kid up to believe this and he grew up to be a deluded rambling madman who mingled with other mentally ill destitutes. Christianity as a whole is built on a big fat lie.
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OP is a Jewish faggot.
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>>541365196
>some
its idolatry
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>>541365354
Everyone must be having a supreme melty over orthodox Christians honoring the saints every day in their prayer time....but no one can ever tell me how its any different than looking fondly at a photo of someone who's not on this earth anymore. Am I suddenly committing idol worshipping by honoring my dead grandma?
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>>541365354
>>541365730
>>541368108
>>541376678
>lets trick God
didnt work for the jews, wont work for you.
but keep defending your Talmud 2.0 and see how it works out.
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>>541379897
Jesus didnt come to bring peace, but to bring a sword. unity was never the goal but division.
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>>541380445
>And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats. - Matthew 25:32
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>>541378610
most people (christians) go to hell
this isnt something to brag about
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>>541365591
last I checked its Jesus that saves, not Mary.
you follow a different gospel and thus you are not even a true believer.
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>>541365891
catholics are jews, they literally continue the ritual sacrifices for sins from the OT in the eucharist, sacrificing the Lord anew like his blood on the cross wasnt enough.
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>>541380589
Mary is a saint and stands next to the Lord.. doesn't mean Catholics worship her, they venerate and use her guidance, glory and the fact that she was the mother of the Living God Jesus Christ.
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>>541365387
>justpaganthings.png
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Mother goddess worship was very popular among the cults the church conquered.
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>>541366770
>women has emotional response
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>>541367595
the people before the flood also venerated angel human creations.
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>>541367520
Jesus is the ark of the covenant, not mary.
repent of you idolatry, pagan.
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>>541365196
>brown guy in clown outfit simps for jewish women
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>>541375529
>it would be more accurate to say "I venerate thee” / “I honor thee” / “I reverence thee"
>meaning, not to the same degree as honoring god
jewish pilpul
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>>541369279
>The rest of you are vile heretics who need to be skinned alive.
how "christian" of you.
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>>541365196
Worshipping a Jewish woman who cheated on her husband and lied and now an entire religion is based upon that lie.

Kek
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>>541381342
Jesus was a KIKE criminal who: inciteed riots, interrupted commerce at the temple, instructed his followers to illegally arm themselves,
and claimed he was the son of God. He did all this during Passover when all the Jews gathered.

He wasn't the first criminal KIKE nor the last.
ChristKike was arrested by a 600 man Roman cohort plus temple guard. He wasn't a Roman citizen and wasn't entitled to trial.
He was crucified by the Romans and was labeled King of the Jews.

Then later on Based Emperor Trajan who expanded the Roman Empire to it's greatest extent, in 117 expelled the Jews forever and destroyed the Kike Temple. The Romans destroyed Kikes and ChristKike.
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>>541375446
>>"Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”"
Jesus wasnt in paradise on that day.

18For Christ also sufferedb once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19in whichc he went and proclaimedd to the spirits in prison, 20becausee they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.
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>>541380647
>Mary is a saint and stands next to the Lord..
source?
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>>541381480
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven
Both the Catholic and Orthodox church agrees with this.
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>>541381778
>Both the Catholic and Orthodox church agrees with this.
thats not a source.
quote the bible, Jesus, or the apostles.
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>>541381778
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven

17 Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven. And they pour out drink offerings to other gods, to provoke me to anger. 19 Is it I whom they provoke? declares the Lord. Is it not themselves, to their own shame? 20 Therefore thus says the Lord God: Behold, my anger and my wrath will be poured out on this place, upon man and beast, upon the trees of the field and the fruit of the ground; it will burn and not be quenched.”

Jeremiah 7
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>>541381778
Jeremiah 44

Judgment for Idolatry

16 “As for the word that you have spoken to us in the name of the Lord, we will not listen to you. 17 But we will do everything that we have vowed, make offerings to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we did, both we and our fathers, our kings and our officials, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of food, and prospered, and saw no disaster. 18 But since we left off making offerings to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and by famine.” 19 And the women said,[b] “When we made offerings to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, was it without our husbands' approval that we made cakes for her bearing her image and poured out drink offerings to her?”

you will go to hell for "queen of heaven" worship. repent.
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>>541381936
>you will go to hell.
Guess i'll meet you there faggot.
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>>541381827
Quote what, it's the same as telling anyone "pray for me", and there are many passages in the Bible explicitly commanding Christians to pray and intercede for others.
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>>541382714
not being an idolater is not that hard

>>541382722
yes, people that are alive. asking the dead to pray for you is fucking retarded and not mentioned in the bible.

>And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?
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>>541382800
These are the dead who are alive in God and consciously praying...
>9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”
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pantera rekt dat pussy and she lied about it
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>>541383020
where are they praying for you?
they are pleading for God to judge the inhabitants of the earth that killed them.
can you fucking read?
they are not there to answer your prayers but condemn you for killing them.
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>>541383104
>judge the inhabitants of the earth
And that judging can have a redeeming or condemning outcome.
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>>541381778
the jewish cult founded by jews whose goyim members routinely humiliate themselves public thinks that?
i am shocked and appalled.
https://files.catbox.moe/3h8j7d.mp4
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>>541383167
this passage is not about you.
there are no saints pleading your case before the Lord.
these dead were martyred for their faith, they are saying AVENGE OUR BLOOD.
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>>541383265
Just checked and Protestants also believe that Saints are alive in heaven, if they believe that what stops them from praying?
>Apology of the Augsburg Confession, Article 21 (IX): "We grant that the saints in heaven pray for the Church in general...
>i. The bodies of men, after death, return to dust, and see corruption: but their souls, which neither die nor sleep, having an immortal subsistence, immediately return to God who gave them: the souls of the righteous, being then made perfect of holiness, are received into the highest heavens, where they behold the face of God, in light and glory, waiting for the full redemption of their bodies.
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>>541383483
>waiting for the full redemption of their bodies.
meaning they are dead and are waiting to be raised up in the second coming of Christ.
heaven will come to earth, the dead are not floating around in heaven.
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>>541370278
Christ is kike
>>541372824
Christ is brown
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>>541375460
>In spite of jew worship rational white thoughts prevailed
Disingenuous cunt



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