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>>541372702
Legit
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>>541372702
Imagine if solar panels never worked and people are just finding out about it now
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I think we can harnest it, but differently.

By making mirrors to focus beams, and systems that can handle heat transfer from it with venting and stabilizing to avoid explosions and convert it to power. Tangable and strong power.

But I am absolutely looking forward to this Tower being destroyed to absolute bits. Everything we have we will use to self destruct and I am finally OK with it, I want it, I want that.
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They are alright for small applications, houses, infrastructure and that kind of stuff.

But they aren't the answer to massive energy demands. They're inconsistent, require extensive input/maintenance costs and require expensive storage solutions to scale well.
We have a lot of government schemes to subsidise panels and batteries in the home. The funny thing is, it actually jacks up the power prices for everyone who can't afford to buy them. Because the people getting cheap bills with their fancy setups, no longer pay into the broader infrastructure; transmission and management etc.
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>>541372702
Solar panels are mostly produced using chink coal, of course it's a scam.
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>>541373397
When Swiss design it
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>>541372702
It works but it threatens the oil companoes
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>>541373479
companies* fuck im retarded
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>>541372702
it's real it's not good for all places all the time.
for example in california you would need less panels than nebreska. In california you can just have the exact number of pannels, and batteries for let say a week of power. but in nebreska you might need more panels
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>>541372702
Neither, it's a meme.
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>>541372702
It's both. Depending on where you live in terms of energy efficiency. But it's a net scam in the sense that it is clean. The amount of toxic waste it produces in manufacturing is quite a bit. Even wind is a scam in the green department because now you're burying thousands of massive broken blades in some mass grave.
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Legit for light to medium applications. Powering a shed or detached garage that you can't get power to easily. For anything larger it mostly fails for various reasons, cost, upkeep, etc al.
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>>541373376
Concentrated solar power plants exist. They just kinda suck compared to modern photovoltaics.
Also they set birds on fire in mid-air.
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>>541373020
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>>541373746
My cousin powers his whole 1500sqft house with solar and sells $150 excess to the electric company a month. Though this is in Texas. It definitely pays for itself eventually in some areas but it's risky because he lives in a tornado prone zone which can produce golf ball size hail which will fuck your panels up.
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>>541373397
It should have been built in Pakistan brother. Pakistan is number one at Solar Panel manufacture. We need to import a billion more Pakistanis
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>>541373454
chink panels and western panels are made in the same chinese factory anon. One just gets a different casing at the end
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>>541373876
Yeah that probably works fine in Texas where they have regular sun, and don't spend 6 to 8 months of year covered in snow. Numbers have been run though, and in the BEST conditions, even modern panels will take 15 to 25 years to pay off, while the panels only actually last 10 to 15 on average in practice. Especially if you live in an area prone to extreme weather that kicks up dust and debris, like tornados and hail storms and hurricaines.

Up here the government ended all the solar programs for putting panels on residential roofs because the savins just weren't showing up for most people, the government was spending insane money for a loss that was supposed to take more strain off the grid but ended up creating more strain because solar isn't consistent, even on sunny days.

Also the environmental impact of solar panels and wind turbines not being recyclable can't be ignored anymore
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>>541374066
>Also the environmental impact of solar panels and wind turbines not being recyclable can't be ignored anymore
I agree completely as stated in >>541373723
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I would say that it's both overrated and underrated in some aspects. For example my dad connect a water pump to a solar panel and it did water our garden, the panel worked well past it's lifetime. But there was a problem of less power output during non sunny weather and a need to make it face the sun, and cleaning it every few months. So I would say that it isn't a scam, but you should be realistic about it, it won't replace fossil fuels and nuclear, but it can be used to by individual household to provide power, if combined with decent batteries it could be even used to power something almost all the time, I'm waiting to see how will the the solar panel technology improve in the next years.
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>>541372702
its pretty bad baseload power even with batteries certain regions it makes sense because it seems to always be sunny southwest, but it seems like northeast wants it where it makes no sense. In hindsight the play should've been to build out the grid with reliable baseload power while renewables were still expensive and then now start implementing them where it makes sense offshore wind is dumb
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>>541372702
scam for grid use without solid state transformers
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I paid around 43,000 DKK (~$6000) to have 40m2 of solar panels installed on my house. It covers all my electricity expenses year round, and on good days I even earn money since excess electricity is just sent back into the power grid. Will pay off in less than 7 years and I have 30 years guarantee on the panels.
You have to be either retarded or poor to not go green.
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Until a solar panel on an auto rooftop can power the thing, it's a scam. -- I remember when they promised that nuclear power would replace auto gasoline.
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>>541372702
solar has been rolling out like crazy with some corruption about charges or work quality

it's a good tech option for upper middle class and rich people



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