Previous: >>541372350Day 1,644 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>OZON loses 28.6% marketshare in a single trading day, which was closed early to stem the bleeding>putin has authorized the nationalization of enterprises that, according to the authorities, are insufficiently protected from Ukrainian attacks>10 Ukrainian servicemen were released from russian captivity>UK to share Storm Shadow blueprints with Ukraine>EU pledges $7.1bn in aid to Ukraine>Tyube, Dagestan OZON (130,000 m2) COOKED>Enem, Adygea OZON (91,200 m2) COOKED>Andy Burnham visits Kyiv in his first foreign trip as UK prime minister>Strikes on OZON facilities continue in Krasnodar and Adygea, South russia>Ukrainian Forces Strike Su-30SM and MiG-29 Fighter Jets>Drones have attacked Plesetsk space port in Arkhangelsk region>Drones have attacked natural gas infrastructure in Kursk region>Su-24 bomber destroyed at Saky airfield in Crimea on 20th August>Smoooking accident reported in Orenburg>Chapayevsk, Samara Oblast OZON (135,000 m2) COOKED>Novokuibyshevsk refinery on fire after Ukrainian strikes>Fire Point has completed ground tests of the FP-9 and is preparing for the next stage - testing on enemy territory - CEO Iryna Terekh>Ukrainian Defense Forces Strike Akhtubinsk airbase, damage Su-34▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateUAt.me/DroneBombert.me/Exilenova_Plusodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶russian confirmed KIAhochuvernut.com200.zona.media/poteru.net/en/▶An illustrative article for understanding the "kill zone" in Ukraine's front linesreuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/KILL-ZONE/znpnojmknvl/▶/uhg/-approved vidyadeepstatemap.live/arcade/▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip
Azov is super btw
>>541375802https://www.theamericanconservative.com/its-time-to-apologize-to-ukrainians/It’s Time to Apologize to Ukrainians...With Russia continuing to make advances in the war, it seems clear that Ukraine will eventually be forced back to the negotiating table. It is likely to get a worse deal than the one it was pushed to abandon four years ago. And since then, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed or injured, millions have left or been displaced, the economy, environment, and infrastructure have been devastated, and land has been lost. It is time to apologize to Ukrainians for pushing them off the path of negotiations in the first months of the war.---------you nafo tards itt surely got a lot to apologize for. lying in every breath about this conflict
>I couldn't give a fuck about Ukrainet. goretroonlmao. the absolute state of shills itt
>>541375802Rusniggers lost.
TZD is becoming more and more politically mainstream
TZD
>>541375795I didn't ask him to and don't expect him to. He's not a perverted schizo moralizer like you. Shrimple as. Kill yourself.
Amur Gas and Chemical Complex (AGCC) in the Svobodnensky district of the Amur region.Approximately 6,000 km from the borders of Ukrainehttps://litter.catbox.moe/hxh35ip9j653yxkv.mp4Why is everyone brown ?
>>541375832My retarded danetroon, you forgot to change your VPN to US flag again. How shit are you?
NA KYI-AAACKK*glub glub glub*
>>541375832
>>541375850damn straight
The gulaghomo russia lost>Ukrainian forces appear to be conducting a concerted suppression and destruction of enemy air defenses (SEAD/DEAD) campaign against Russian air defense assets in Russian border regions as part of their broader campaign targeting Russian economic and military assets within Russia and occupied Ukraine. Ukrainian Unmanned Systems Forces (USF) Commander Major Robert “Magyar” Brovdi reported that Ukrainian forces struck a Russian MiG-29 fighter jet and a Kamov Ka-52 helicopter at the Millerovo Air Base in Dolotinka, two air-surveillance radars and an air-defense sensor in Rostov Oblast, and an air surveillance radar system and a shelter for the Zala-type reconnaissance drone crew in occupied Crimea on the night of August 23 to 24.[1] Geolocated footage published on August 24 shows Ukrainian forces striking the MiG-29 fighter jet.[2] Ukrainian forces previously conducted a series of strikes against Russian strike and air defense assets in Rostov Oblast and Krasnodar Krai and occupied Crimea on the night of August 22 to 23.[3] The Ukrainian General Staff reported on August 24 that Ukraine’s August 23 strike damaged Russian Su-33 and MiG-29 fighter jets and an Orion-type strike and reconnaissance drone in Krasnodar Krai.[4] Geolocated footage published on August 23 shows Ukrainian forces striking Russian aircraft in Krasnodar Krai.
>>541375869you're that tryhard fag sperging at me when I mocked you for copying his posting stylewhile he doesn't give a fuck about your country to begin with.lmaoing @ you
>>541375802Calling it now, danefaggot is gonna get over 40 posts in this thread.Anyone willing to bet differently?
The gulaghomo russia lost>Ukrainian forces also struck Ozon (another Russian analogue to Amazon and Wildberries’ main competitor) logistics centers in Makhachkala, the Republic of Dagestan; Nevinnomyssk, Stavropol Krai; and Enem, the Republic of Adygea on the night of August 23 to 24, according to geolocated footage published on August 24.[6] The Ozon Press Service confirmed on August 24 that Ukrainian strikes caused fires at logistics centers in the Republic of Dagestan and Krasnodar Krai.[7] ISW has observed evidence of Ukrainian forces intensifying their strike campaign against Ozon warehouses since August 22.[8] Russian forces have been heavily targeting Wildberries logistics centers across Russia since roughly July 17 and are now appearing to be expanding their strike campaign to Ozon warehouses as part of Ukraine’s systematic strike campaign against Russian marketplaces.
my ̶p̶i̶g̶s̶l̶u̶t̶ wife
>>541375937Not getting over 40 posts. Washed up has been tranny doesn't have the mental energy anymore.
>>541375915i ordered custodes box right now
behead ziggers
The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian President Vladimir Putin is setting conditions for the widespread nationalization of Russian private assets under the broad pretext of defending critical enterprises against Ukrainian strikes, likely in part to generate additional state revenues. Putin signed a decree on August 24 that authorizes the Russian government to seize Russian “critical infrastructure facilities” that fail to adequately protect their assets, including against drone strikes, or restore a damaged facility in a timely manner.[10] The decree defines “critical infrastructure facilities” as any fuel, energy, industrial, communications, utilities, transport, or essential services facilities, and essentially allows the Kremlin to seize any enterprise of its choice, leaving almost all privately-owned infrastructure in Russia vulnerable to nationalization. The decree allows the Russian government to assume “temporary management” over critical facilities that can end only at Putin’s personal discretion, setting conditions for Russia’s indefinite seizure of private assets.
>Since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin has set military deadlines 15 times for the complete capture of Donbass, but the General Staff generals have not fulfilled any of them.
>>541375963he will if you count his multiple vpn personas
>>541375973>Servant of the corpse emperor Well I'd never
kill all ziggers and zigger shills
>>541375973enjoy anon
>>541375933>spergingKill yourself, lmao.
>>541375963you're on.
>541375903projection. Ukraine shills are the embodiment of lack of honoryou're clueless on this concept
>>541375802>>541375869>>541375903>>541375937>>541375980>>541376014One of the most crass and perverse realities we live under is this lie we tell ourselves that lesbians get to make demands of other people.-----------> >>541368092
>lmaoing @ you
>>541376009>cheap>cool looking>easy to paintthe choice was very simple anon
>>541375849This is a better screencap
>One of the most crass and perverse realities we live under is this lie we tell ourselves that lesbians get to make demands of other people.
>>541375802TZD
See what I said? Mearshlomo is such a husk that he just posts some irrelevant shit and fucks off.
>>541374943>>541374776>>541374771Trust me I get that at it's most basic it'll be some mixture of being tempted by the money and being enough of a violent thug or deluded RU simp to think they'll survive and that the violence is all fine.But I can't help wanting to examine the thinking, those are ideas sure, but somewhere in the back of their minds there must've been some pause, something other than Ruble signs flashing in their eyes at the bonus. Some voice in them knew this was a bad idea. Russians rarely trust anything, most of them would look at that amount of money and immediately write it off as a scam.I guess I just can't help but be fascinated by the chain of choices that led them to getting plapped by a drone.Plus the 5 gorillion backpacks vs t-shirt and waterbottle guys really confuse me.
>>541376063he probably misses his bbc porn
Even omnicide is a valid means towards TZD. We don't need a world with Russia in it.
Now with Storm ShadowSoon to be with FP-9 and Nightfall
>>541376053lel even better>>541376023your thoughts on >>541376053 ukie finn?
katastrofa
>People without an arm or leg were allowed to drive buses and trucks in Russia>The Russian government has excluded from the list of medical contraindications for driving public and freight transport a number of diagnoses associated with the absence or serious deformation of arms, legs, hands, feet and fingers. This follows from the order of the Cabinet of Ministers published on the legal information portal. At the same time, a new restriction was introduced: an absolute contraindication is now considered to be the absence of both upper limbs or both hands at the same time, or their deformation that “significantly impedes movement.” Thus, people with amputations of one arm or one leg are officially allowed to drive buses and trucks.
>>541376063>drops schizophrenic one sentence rant about lesbians>leaves threadit's wild to see how buckbroken he's become.
>>541376017thanks. this new box comes with cool ass dreadnought
Every dead russnigger is a boon to HumanityThe gulaghomo russia lost >Russian President Vladimir Putin continues efforts to protect an aging cadre of loyalists by manipulating mandatory retirement ages, this time extending Russian Investigative Committee Head Alexander Bastrykin’s term until August 7, 2027.[18] Bastrykin has served as the Russian Investigative Committee Head since 2010 and will turn 73 years old in August 2026, reaching the standard mandatory retirement age.[19] Putin notably signed a law in March 2021 that removes the mandatory retirement age for senior presidential appointees, allowing them to serve past the age of 70.[20] Putin also amended another law in October 2024 that states that an Investigative Committee official can serve until the maximum age of 65 in order to allow Bastrykin to serve until he turns 70.[21] Putin appears to continue to raise the retirement age of government and military officials to retain an aging cadre of loyalists and keep his inner circle in positions of power.[22] Putin’s repeated extension of Bastrykin’s term likely indicates that Putin will continue using Bastrykin’s leadership of the Investigative Committee to support Putin’s escalating campaign to nationalize Russian economic assets and maintain Putin’s domestic law enforcement priorities.
MOEX went below yesterday's closing pricecome on fucker, droooppppp
The birds pecked a lot of AD last week
>>541376112He's entitled to his opinion, which has been consistent so far. I disagree with him for other reasons but his rusnigger and shill buckbreaking is unmatched.
>>541376124Custodes are so cool.
>>541376159And some more
Ozonberry death mapped
>>541376177>I disagree with him for other reasons but his rusnigger and shill buckbreaking is unmatched
>>541376157OZON bleeding was stemmed, I figured it'd take another day or two before the next bull run.
>>541376041Bore off you boring fucking bore
>>541376208Kill yourself. ;)
>>541376211damnI want cascading bank failure kino
>>541376105>FP-9
The gulaghomo russia lost>Ukrainian forces continued their long-range strike campaign against Russian military and energy infrastructure. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on August 24 that Ukrainian forces struck the Kamensky military-industrial plant in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, Rostov Oblast.[24] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that the plant produces rocket fuel for multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) munitions, as well as other missile systems and air-launched weapons. Geolocated footage published on August 23 shows smoke plumes rising from the 91st Central Reserve Automotive Equipment Base (Military unit 48670) in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky.[25] Ukrainian USF Commander Major Robert “Magyar” Brovdi also reported on August 24 that Ukrainian forces struck an oil depot in Yeysk, Krasnodar Krai.[26] Geolocated imagery published on August 23 shows smoke rising from a substation in Kursk Oblast, reportedly following a Ukrainian strike.
>>541376152Incompetent loyalty > Competence + risk of mutinyAll the better I suppose. Keep the old decrepit idiots in charge. Run the country into ruin.
>venerate greatness>have none>despise every single one of the great nationsjust Pidorovlikov things
>>541376242Don't worry, it is already happening. Some banks are already disallowing Russians to take out money.
>>541375832Damn straight
>>541376242Economics always has a back and forth because people take risky positions for greater gains. The pendulum will tick back before too long.
>>541376293I need VTB, AFK Sistema, and Sberbank to implode with shockwaves visible from space
>>541376222>>541376211Everyone is tired of being surrounded by traitors. https://x.com/cfdownes_/status/2091206591076855966I tried warning you, but you're retarded.
>>541376112With context, that post is even funnier.At the time, it had been recently revealed that goretranny had been posting a dead ukrainian for months and never noticed until someone pointed it out.He made that post when someone gave him the advice to look through and check the validity of all his gore so he doesn't turn r/uhg to an even bigger laughing stock. Naturally, instead of following said advice, he decided to proclaim that 1 russian's life is worth tens of millions of ukrainians.Many keks were had that day.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522333758/#522336778
>Everyone is tired of being surrounded by traitors.zigga you know it
The gulaghomo lost>Russian forces continued offensive operations in northern Sumy Oblast on August 23 and 24 but did not make confirmed advances
>>541376344Bore off you boring fucking bore
Who defines traitors? Worry not, we have a formula. The AfD will go the way of the Strasser brothers.
The gularhomo russia lost>Russian forces continued offensive operations in northern Kharkiv Oblast on August 23 and 24 but did not advance as Ukrainian forces counterattacked.[
>>541375880Vid from up closerEveryone is still brownhttps://litter.catbox.moe/h1u29gg6k0zy52ci.mov
>>541375853Her dumb seething is so funny. But subhumans like that should be deported back to the ruccia
1/2Russian entrepreneurs are reporting more erroneous freezes of business bank accounts by the Federal Tax Service as automated tax controls collide with recent changes in reporting rules, lawyers told Izvestia.Artem Oknyaev, founder of law firm De-Yure, said inquiries over such freezes had risen by about 10–15% in recent months. Natalia Kadzrishvili, head of accounting firm Finklining, gave the same range and said clients typically discover the block only when they try to use the account. In most of the cases her firm sees, the restriction is imposed in error; even after an inspectorate accepts that or receives the missing papers, access can stay shut for days and sometimes weeks.Izvestia reviewed complaints in the tax service’s official chat. One individual entrepreneur said an account was frozen for failure to file a 3-NDFL return for 2025, with no prior notice. Another taxpayer on the ordinary simplified system said an inspector admitted the error and issued an unblocking order that then stalled in the system; the account remained frozen on a fourth day because the decision did not reach the bank.Users of the automated simplified tax system (AUSN), under which the service itself calculates tax from bank and cash-register data and VAT is generally not due, said accounts were nonetheless frozen for unpaid VAT. A Skolkovo resident reported a freeze over a missing profits-tax return despite an exemption.Under the service’s own timetable, a decision lifting a freeze must go to the bank no later than one business day after the underlying issue is resolved; with transmission and bank action, the process is meant to take up to three days.
>>5413764672/2The Federal Tax Service told Izvestia the cases described were isolated, not widespread, and were examined individually. It said a related mailing among AUSN users affected 0.09% of that regime and that individual explanations had already been sent. Notices that a declaration is missing are informational, the service said, and do not require a response when the taxpayer has no filing obligation. It advised firms to track income limits and confirm that filed returns have been received.Opora Rossii said it had not seen the same rise in complaints. Executive director Andrey Shubin called an account freeze an extreme measure that can halt payments and contractual performance.Inna Ivanova of Lemchik, Krupsky & Partners said the typical fault is the service misidentifying whether a given taxpayer must file a particular return, especially on special regimes. Kadzrishvili linked the errors to automated systems that have not fully absorbed rule changes, including VAT treatment on the simplified system from 2025.Lawyers said small firms often lack cash buffers, so a multi-day freeze can stop supplier, rent, payroll and tax payments. They advise obtaining the decision number and legal basis, checking filing status, and submitting documents through the taxpayer account rather than relying on a phone call. The service also runs an “operational assistance” channel for unblocking requests that it says is reviewed within 24 hours.
>cyka blat, these mini-refineries will help alleviate situation in capital->idi nahuy, no comrade, blyat, these are are for personal use of prezident pypy only>say yebat cyka blyat whaaaaaaaat? ahuyet
>>541375995Yeah, that's literally the picrel.
>>541376370>Democracy is a mythIts the lesbians who trashed it all.1) no one voted to have their homelands infested with third worlders.2) lesbians have subverted every European democratic election for years now. Lets forget about the shenanigans in France and Germany.I only need to remind you all of the heavy handed shit that took place in Romania's elections.Democracies/Republics require decent, good people to manage themselves.None of you are decent, good, or worthwhile.
The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian forces continued limited offensive operations in the Velykyi Burluk direction on August 24 but did not advance.[
>>541376482I feel nothing but Vorfreude at the thought of 800k fresh cannon fodder Ivans, God damn let fall be here already
>>541376441>Reports have emerged indicating that more than 70 employees of the company have been affected by unexplained explosions.https://litter.catbox.moe/lokid34tjald259r.mp4
>>541376370funny that our 5th collumnists were simping for afd, while afd members called Polish people niggers
A fire broke out on Tuesday at the Amur Gas Chemical Complex under construction near Svobodny in Russia’s Far East, the plant said, later reporting that five contractor workers had been hospitalized.The complex, a Sibur–Sinopec venture still in commissioning, said staff were shutting down equipment on the startup line and that employees not involved in the response were leaving the site. It said there was no threat to nearby residents.A later company statement said the blaze had been localized on an auxiliary process section of the pyrolysis unit, with no risk of further spread, and that remaining process gases were being burned off under control. Main production equipment was undamaged, it said. Cause and the scale of damage were still being determined. Mobile laboratories were monitoring air quality.Five contractor employees were taken to hospital in Svobodny with injuries of varying severity. Several others received outpatient treatment for cuts or bruises, the company said.REN TV earlier reported two injured, a fire of about 2,000 square metres on a methanol unit and the evacuation of 50 people. The Telegram channel 112, citing sources it did not name, said an explosion had injured more than 75 people. Neither figure was confirmed by the company.Video circulating online showed a tall smoke column. Local outlets reported a traffic jam on the road by the site.The Amur complex is designed to produce 2.7 million tonnes of polyethylene and polypropylene a year from ethane and LPG supplied by Gazprom’s neighbouring Amur gas processing plant. Sibur holds 60 percent, Sinopec 40 percent. First output had been planned for 2024; after sanctions blocked Western equipment the full start was reset to 2027. Management said earlier this year the site was ready to begin operations, with first polyethylene pellets targeted for this quarter and polypropylene in 2027.
>>541376177YOU ARE THE SAMEBut for some reason the retarded Canadian only post dying Russian soldiers and never Malorussians
>muh Malorosian brothers!Haven't you been calling them Germans for a few years now?
The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Kupyansk direction on August 23 and 24 but did not advance.
>>541376625It’s not an opinion, they are what they are (small Russians, but still Russians)
>>541376589yup, a typical hilarious result of the undermined right, cheap motherfuckers can't even sync their scripts
>>541376657they're clearly superior to Russians
>>541376598Because it's a pro-Ukrainian thread. I'm sure /chug/ will oblige you.
>>541376682we're actually neutralbeing genuinely pro-Ukraine would mean bombing ziggers by their side
>>541376682It's more of an anti-russia thread, I doubt the majority of the posters here actually care about ukrainians. Even the most well-known poster here publicly stated he would sacrifice all ukrainians to kill a single russian
>>541376736>we're actually neutralThis
>>541376748>sacrifice all ukrainians to kill a single russianall of humankind actuallythe russia has to be destroyed, there's no alternative
>Russia asks the Czech Republic to ensure security in Prague during parliamentary elections>The Russian Federation has asked the Czech Republic to ensure adequate security measures during the September elections to the State Duma. The request concerns the building of the Russian embassy in Prague and its surroundings. The Finnish station Yle then reported that Moscow, in addition to ensuring security, asked Finland to temporarily ban demonstrations near the embassy in Helsinki.
>>541376682Don't lie. It's a pro-Kiev's regime thread. Ordinary Ukrainian goyim are the biggest loser of all parties involved and Zelensky is right about goyim.
The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian forces continued limited offensive operations in the Borova direction on August 23 and 24 but did not advance.
>>541376736Touche.
I love Ukraine more than Germany because Ukraine had the sense to outlaw Marxist evil
never trust them, never end up in a situation where you have to rely on them
>>541376598That's because Russians are dying in unprecedented numbers compared to Ukrain- wait, did you say malorussians? Aren't those just Russians according to the Russian constitution, since malorussians are only in the regions Russians wrote into their constitution as Russian? Can you memefaggot kikes be at least a little bit more coherrent in your retarded posts?
Half of Russian micro, small and medium-sized firms surveyed in July said revenue had fallen, the highest reading in the monthly RSBI poll in recent months, and the sales component of the index dropped to its weakest since early 2023.The survey, run by Promsvyazbank with Opora Rossii and Magram Market Research — NAFI is credited on some related materials — found 50% of companies reporting lower sales, up from 47% in June. Twenty-one percent reported a rise. PSB analysts described actual offtake as extremely difficult.The share expecting sales to fall rose to 37% from 34%, a 3.5-year high. Those expecting higher revenue stood at 26%, a figure that has been sliding for several months. The sales sub-index fell 1.9 points to 39.7, the lowest since January 2023.The headline RSBI slipped to 49.4 from 49.6 in June and 48.4 in May, a third straight month below 50, the line that separates expansion from contraction.The squeeze is uneven. Micro-firms scored 46.8. Small firms were just above water at 50.2. Medium-sized companies rose to 57.5 on stronger investment plans. The credit component increased to 59.7; 41% of respondents said they needed a loan. Investment eased to 52.0. Staffing was 47.9, with hiring intentions at a six-month low. Kirill Tikhonov, a PSB senior vice-president, said businesses had become more conservative and were using borrowed funds to support current operations.Rating agency NKR said SME finances were deteriorating: thinner profits, heavier debt, more arrears, delayed payments from large buyers and weaker tax remittances. As of May 1, it said, one in six SME borrowers was past due. It put overdue SME loans at 623.8 billion rubles, about 4.1% of the book, and said the share could approach 5% by year-end. Central Bank figures later showed SME arrears at 638 billion rubles on June 1 and about 656 billion on July 1, still around 4.2% of the portfolio.
swift end to the age of thieves and liars
>>541376576The big question is why they go along with it voluntarily.
>>541376854>I love Ukraine more than GermanyYep, that's pretty much the motto of any german who supports ukraine
>>541376812>It's a pro-Kiev's regimeNobody cares who's Ukraine's president or who's part of the Rada. In fact, I doubt anyone here would object ot swapping Zelensky and co for bigger TZD enthusiasts. Less corruption, more drones, chop chop.
>>541376864lohi
>>541376897any German who's politically sane, rare as we may beEurasia shit is turbo treason
+++BREAKING NEWS+++Ukraine’s Security Service detained an alleged Russian agent in Lviv who had travelled there from Dnipropetrovsk region specifically to collect intelligence.According to the SBU, one Russian handler tasked him with scouting potential targets for future strikes — including railway infrastructure and administrative buildings used by state and military institutions.His method was simple: photograph potential targets, mark their geolocations on Google Maps, and report back.But a second assignment reveals another part of Russia’s recruitment infrastructure.The suspect was allegedly instructed by another handler to spray provocative graffiti around Lviv containing a link to a specially created chatbot — designed to recruit additional agents.Ukrainian counterintelligence caught him while he was attempting to photograph another potential target.He is now in custody and faces up to life imprisonment if convicted.>https://xcancel.com/armyinformcomua/status/2092159341457486199+++BREAKING NEWS+++
>>541376896no will of their ownsuch a thing would complicate izzat
>>541376899>for bigger TZD enthusiastsbut not for smaller
>>541376899Get rid of Zelenkike, put in Magyar for maximizing total russnigger deathThe gulaghomo russia lost>Ukrainian forces continued their intermediate-range strike campaign against Russian fuel and logistics infrastructure in occupied Luhansk Oblast. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on August 24 that Ukrainian forces struck material and technical warehouses in occupied Stepne (roughly 107 kilometers from the frontline) and Khrustalne (roughly 86 kilometers from the frontline).[37] Ukrainian USF Commander Major Robert “Magyar” Brovdi reported on August 24 that Ukrainian forces struck a Russian fuel and lubricants depot in occupied Dovzhansk (roughly 145 kilometers from the frontline).[
>>541376941I'll donate £1k if they livestream pulling off his fingernails.
>>541376953of course notyou have no business there
>>541376864Epstein regime coming to pick up it's latest order of cheese pizza
>>541376953Sir, this is the TZD thread. We only sell TZD and TZD accessories.
>>541376736And how are they different ?It’s the same people Ukraine didn’t exist as a nation before Lenin
>how are they different ?Culturally, ethnically, genetically?
The gulaghomo russia lost>Ukrainian forces recently advanced in the Slovyansk direction. Ukrainian forces recently advanced east of Dibrova (southwest of Lyman) according to geolocated footage published on August 23.
>>541377018Don’t lie to yourself
>>541375802In the morning, a US Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III military transport aircraft with the tail number RCH4555 landed at Moscow's Vnukovo Airport, according to FlightRadar24.Information about the latest flights made by this aircraft indicates that it arrived in Riga on August 23, and the starting point is the city of Camp Springs in Maryland, where Andrews Air Force Base is located, where Air Force One, the US presidential plane, is based.
>>541376997Ukraine (then known as Kyivan Rus) appears in records as early as 862
>>541376997Cool, not even gonna argue with that. No nation existed as a nation before some event or other.
>>541377034Those are all objective things and easily verifiable differences.
the so-called Russia is a fake contrived Mongol-Khazariya
>>541377052>Kievan RUS
mongol + turk + talmud + stolen name of Rus = savior of the white race, apparently
if it's been Slavs and Russians, it's an easy pick for Slavs
The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Kostyantynivka-Druzhkivka tactical area on August 23 and 24 but did not advance
>>541377057Russia is a thousand old civilisation and Ukraine is part of it historically.
>>541377036another "nigger drug addict" for a "weapons dealer with 40 years of experience" swap?
>>541376973You hate ziggers but you're afraid to fight them on the front line in the Ukrainian army. Yet you assume that hohols are different and want to fight them in the Ukrainian army. Maybe smaller TZD enthusiasts actually represent their current society and can win in a fair election and surrender us our land to live their live instead of dying for your ambitions while you post with us on /uhg/ which is not as comfy but way comfier than the front line.
so this is what they meant by "ethnic" Russians...>>541377132other way around
>>541377086>>541377132So I guess Sweden is an even older civilisation and Russia was a part of it historically then?
>no YOU are afraid
For those who don’t know, in Old East Slavic ,the word ukraina originally meant "borderland," "frontier," or "outlying region."
>pozzia>thousand year old civilization
>For those who don’t know, in Old East Slavic ,the word ukraina originally meant "borderland," "frontier," or "outlying region."
>>541377052Ukraine means borderlands. The name okraina described the broderlands of the kievan rusThe concept of the name ukraine being used to name an actual nation was unheard of until 1917, hence why it was known as "the ukraine" for so long.It's like naming a nation after the grand canyon, everyone will keep calling it the grand canyon until nationalists demand you say it without the "the"
>>541377181Retarded tranny that’s not how civilizations work.
>>541377090>>541377211Pic semi-related
the russia never even achieved "great nation" statuswhy should someone with contribution to human progress on the tier of Albania have so much weight in geopolitics? why should we eject Ukraine from our sphere of influence? what's our incentive?
>>541377192I'm afraid to fight hohols on the front line but Putin doesn't force me into a van, he gives me a choice to score some shekel for dead hohols or keep sitting in a basement with fellow kekistani here. I have no reasons to hate Putin. I like Putin, Trump and Musk because they're funny trolls.
>>541377319>I'm afraid
>>541377196>>541377227Mark also means border and Danish call their country Danemark. Now explain what the preposition "U" means in slavic.>>541377259How do they work vpn hopping 1pbtid nigger?
>>541377286>the russia never even achieved "great nation" statusYou are not serious.
>>541377144Why do you niggers beg when confronted with drones? Tell your nigger soldiers to have some dignity before they shed their nigger mortal coils LMAO.The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Dobropillya tactical area on August 23 and 24 but did not make confirmed advances
>>541377397you won't find many things I'm more serious aboutthe russia is a junior nation, a cultural appendixit needed to be with us, and under usit cannot survive without guidance
>>541377273>Clearly defined borders only in Czech Republic and Norwaykneel
Time for a Monke style lecture:>RUSYes. Rus’. Not Russia.Thank you for highlighting the exact word that disproves your own point, kek.>sees Pycь>silently autocompletes Poccия>one thousand years of uninterrupted national statehood achievedLMAO.Tiny lecture for the historiography understander:Pycь was the medieval polity and political-cultural world conventionally called Kievan Rus’. “Kievan Rus’” is itself a historiographical label distinguishing the period when Kyiv was pre-eminent; nobody in 1000 AD was filing taxes with the Russian Federation, Kyiv Federal District, kek.Its population and territory contributed to the histories of modern Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, alongside Norse, Finnic and other peoples. Then Rus’ fragmented. Its inheritance continued through several branches: Galicia-Volhynia and other southwestern Rus’ lands; Polotsk and the Ruthenian lands of Lithuania; Novgorod, Vladimir-Suzdal and eventually Moscow in the northeast.Moscow was therefore an heir, yes. It was not the sole child issued a metaphysical copyright certificate by Yaroslav the Wise, kek. Muscovite rulers later styled themselves sovereigns “of all Rus’” and constructed an exclusive succession claim. A state claiming the whole inheritance centuries afterward proves that it made a claim. It does not produce a time machine, lmao.Poccия is a related, Greek-derived form that became the name of the later Russian state. Related names? Obviously. Identical polities across a millennium? No.>same etymological root = same country>Romania now owns the Roman Empire>France owns every Frankish successor>North Macedonia receives Alexander’s bank accountAbsolute historical-linguistics wizardry, kek fucking lmao.Russia inherited part of Rus’. Ukraine inherited part of Rus’. Belarus inherited part of Rus’. Russia later won the international branding contest and named itself after Rus’; that did not retroactively turn every Rus’ land into prehistoric Russia DLC, lmao.
>>541377144yep this, summarizes well the average /uhg/ shillall empty bravado and willingness to fight until the last Ukrainian. pathetic really
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>>541377464you forgot extreme comfy aura that your sad attempts to disrupt and agitate cannot penetrate
>>541375995>let's return to communism except without any pretense that we're a mafia oligarchy anymore
>>541377478>came to meanSo it meant something different before that? Like all the other stories about romans asking celts what's the name of this place and them saying "avon" which meant river and so the river's name became avon i.e. the river river or when the settlers asked the injuns what the land was called but the injuns understood it as what their settlement was called and they said kanata which became Canada? Cool.You are retarded btw, know your fucking place.
there's nothing wrong with this
>>541377478>4 billion years ago Earth was in its cooling phase
>>541377227The certainty here is incredible, lmao. Absolute booming voice of a man whose entire bibliography is one badly cropped Telegram infographic.>Ukraine means borderlandsThis is the one clause with a survivable relationship to scholarship, and even that needs qualifications, kek.The traditional etymology connects ukraina with krai: edge, boundary, region or land. Its earliest recorded use, under 1187, probably referred to the frontier territory of Pereiaslav.Congratulations. You found the first paragraph, lmao.That does not make it “Russia’s borderland.” There was no Moscow-centred state called Poccия governing it. It was a frontier of medieval Rus’, and medieval sources also applied ukraina to several different frontier regions.
>>541377227>the borderlands of Kievan Rus“Kievan Rus’” is itself a modern historiographical label.Anon has taken nineteenth-century terminology, mailed it back to 1187 and begun confidently explaining what medieval scribes “really meant,” kek.He also writes okraina, but the chronicle has Ѹкpaинa/oyкpaинa - Ukraina. That initial oy is an old Cyrillic representation of /u/, not the modern Russian word oкpaинa wearing a funny hat.>defeated by one medieval graphemecontinues lecturing about etymologyLMAO.More importantly, words change meaning. A generic description can become a fixed regional name and then a national name. This is called semantic development, a concept apparently unheard of on the intellectual borderlands of this post, kek.
The gulaghomo russia lost>Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Pokrovsk, Novopavlivka, and Oleksandrivka directions on August 23 and 24 but did not advance
>>541377227By the seventeenth century “Ukraine” was firmly associated with the Dnipro and Cossack lands:>1648: Beauplan publishes a General Map of Ukraine>1651: Beauplan publishes Description of Ukraine>1840s: “Ukrainian” is already being used as a national name>1890s: Ukrainian national terminology spreads rapidly>1900: Mykola Mikhnovsky publishes Independent Ukraine>1917: the idea of Ukraine is supposedly inventedDamn, 1917 nationalists were so powerful they travelled backwards and edited maps, books, poems and political programmes, lmao.The modern Ukrainian ethnonym became mass-standardised during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. That is completely different from “unheard of until 1917.”Italian identity existed before the Italian state unified in 1861. German identity existed before 1871. Finnish nationalism existed before Finnish independence in 1917. Apparently only Ukrainians must submit a notarised nation certificate from Charlemagne or be declared retroactive geography DLC, kek.
>>541377542>So it meant something different before that?Yes. If you read the text that's not highlighted, it says that it used to refer to a specific territory of a principality inside the kievan rus, just like the sudetenland referred to a region in czechoslovakia.Since the kievan rus fell, it eventually came to mean just "borderlands" of no specific party
>>541377227And the etymological argument is preschool-tier anyway:>Denmark contains “mark,” meaning a border region>therefore Denmark is not a real country>Austria began as an eastern march>therefore Austrians are merely confused Bavarian border guards>the Netherlands means the low lands>therefore Dutch nationhood has been linguistically disprovenLMAO. Words are destiny now.>it was called “the Ukraine”That establishes old English usage, not medieval ontology. English also once commonly used the Lebanon, the Sudan and the Argentine. The Netherlands still takes an article. English articles are not carbon dating and they do not issue sovereignty licences, kek.“The Ukraine” persisted because English speakers often treated it grammatically as a region, especially while it was a Soviet republic. Once Ukraine was internationally recognised as a sovereign state, ordinary country-name grammar prevailed. That is not comparable to “the Grand Canyon,” because canyon is a common count noun while Ukraine is a proper name.>gets approximately one medieval gloss rightextrapolates twelve centuries of national history from it>paleography dies>semantics dies>chronology dies>English grammar dies>certainty remains at 100%Magnificent. KEK. LMAO EVEN.
>>541376801>russia is now begging western neighbors not to allow dissent towards russiaSimply pathetic.
>>541377687The word "alpine" can refer to someone who lives in the alps. That doesn't mean "the alps" refers to a nation
>>541377717I think you should read it again yourself if you think that's an argument in your favour because the non-highlighted part doesn't specify the original meaning of the word. Again, you are educationally substandard, you should know your place and not argue about things you don't and can't understand.
>>541377793Yes, and “Italian” described people of a peninsula centuries before Italy unified. Congratulations on discovering that geographic labels can become national ethnonyms, lmao.“Alpine” never became the accepted name of one political community. “Ukrainian” did through a nineteenth-century national movement. The question is whether it acquired national meaning before 1917. It did: Mikhnovsky published Independent Ukraine in 1900, and Ukrainian parties already existed.Your analogy doesn’t refute semantic development; it demonstrates it.>compares a transnational mountain range to a national movement>declares linguistics solvedkek
>>541377729You just proved Danemark is basically the Ukraine of Norway, congratulations.
benzin?
>>541377729the "-mark" in Denmark isn't used in the same way like "krai" / "krajina" in Slavic languages, don't mix things up you don't understand and are clueless aboutDen"mark" refers to being the start of pagan heathen viking land on the Northern edges of Charlemagne's Christian Holy Roman Empire 1000 years agoDanes converted to Christianity 200 years later anyway, btwmeanwhile Ukraine is a 35 year old country with no history, plenty of Slavic krajinas are literally border regions like Polish krajna and Bosanska krajinahonestly you're very confused and make jumbled arguments, mixing up and misappropriating concepts. You need some kind of crash course in linear logical thinking to sort your issues
Calhoun's rat utopia: human edition>hiding in bunker>sluttification>etymology debates
>>541377036>Rigais trump giving putin patriot interceptors?
>>541377227>>541376997even if accept that as true, it is of no consequence to this conflict.big wars for independence, such as the one in ukraine right now, is how nations come into being. how they become "a real nation". its the foundational event marked into their collective psyche through history, even if they lose the war.
>>541378002Would it surprise anyone?
>>541377817Happy to hear you out on what part of my post was wrong or contradictory, it doesn't seem like you're able to specify it.You come off as pretty hard of literacy for someone claiming to be of higher education>>541377845>“Alpine” never became the accepted name of one political communityIt likely would have been if it was part of one unstable nation. Again, ukraine means borderlands. "Green ukraine" was even used to refer to territories of present day north korea (i.e. the russian borderlands with japan), even though it had essentially nothing to do with the ukraine in eastern europe
>>541378013>big wars for independenceBUT SEPARATIST MALORUSSIA IS DEPENDEND ON ALL OF THE WEST LMAO
US and UK saved Stalin from Hitler, you have no business complaining about aid to Ukraine, it's only because of the West that Moscow isn't known as Hitlerstadt now
>>541378013Fair enough but it is still important to point out attempted historical revisionism, what that anon posted was outright false
>>541378103american war for independence was critically helped by france, does that mean americans are not a nation then?
>russnigger complaining about revisionism
>>541377945>the “mark” in Denmark isn’t used the same wayNobody claimed the words were cognates or identical in every usage. The analogy concerns one relevant property: a border-derived geographical name can become a country name.>Dan- = the people-name Danes>-mark = older “boundary forest”You then explain Denmark as a boundary area yourself.>denies border-name analogydescribes Denmark as a border-nameLMAO.The precise frontier referenced by -mark is debated; your “start of pagan Viking land at Charlemagne’s HRE” story is not the settled etymology. Charlemagne died in 814, the conventional Holy Roman Empire begins with Otto I in 962, and “Holy” entered the title still later. Harald Bluetooth’s official Christianisation of Denmark dates to roughly 965 and was part of a gradual process.So the HRE and Denmark’s official conversion are literally the same decade, kek.>Ukraine is a 35-year-old country with no historyPresent sovereign independence dates to 1991. That dates the current independent state, not the country’s entire history. Ukraine had a national movement and political parties before 1917, Independent Ukraine was published in 1900, the Ukrainian National Republic existed in 1917–20, and the Ukrainian SSR was a founding UN member in 1945. The UN records 1991 as its name changing to “Ukraine,” not as admission of a brand-new member.Your argument:>deny that border terms become proper country names>confirm Denmark contains a boundary term>produce additional proper regional names derived from boundary terms>call the other person confusedThat “crash course in linear logical thinking” appears to be autobiographical, kek.
>>541378013It's necessary to expose him for spreading misinformation. he is being in denial about the origin of the name Ukraine
>>541378103If you asked Jewtin what "separatists malorussia" is, he would tell you that it is Donbass and I don't think Donbass is dependent on the west.
>>541378085I was pretty explicit and it's very clear that not a single sentence in that screenshot actually deals with the etymology of the word "ukraine" which was the original point of the discurssion, you just keep moving the goalpost and hope that the people you're arguing with will forget."Krai" simply means land, region. In fact, right this very moment Кpaй poднoй, literally meaning BIRTHPLACE, is an educational program in the puccia which is basically preschool geography. I asked you, what does the preposition "u" mean in slavic so we can glean what the etymology of the word "ukraina" is.
you have to smoke a lot of crack to believe Russia, a country that shouldn't even exist anymore, has a claim to Ukraine
>>541375802TzD
What causes this ?
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Wow.. it's obviously the "Day of the 1pbtid memeflagging ziggers" todayDid all of Danetroons usual VPNs got canceled?
>>541378451>>541378475is this for the gays? i cannot imagine a woman would seek this.
>>541377380Still can't believe Iused to listed to that dumb cunt.
>>541375802I searched "Redshadowz" on 4plebs. Looks like some of you guys thought some poor Texan was me. Y'all know I'm too vain and narcissistic to deny who I am. Also, why the fuck would I argue about Charlie fucking Kirk. I only listen to that shit to laugh at all the retards.
>>541378451>>541378475sex is a commodity blyat
>>541378268>Charlemagne died in 814, the conventional Holy Roman Empire begins with Otto I in 962, and “Holy” entered the title still later. Harald Bluetooth’s official Christianisation of Denmark dates to roughly 965 and was part of a gradual process.>So the HRE and Denmark’s official conversion are literally the same decade, kek.What the fuck are you even trying to say with this AI slopCharlemagne fought into pagan lands and ended his expansionist crusade like campaign with the forced conversion of Saxons, neighbors to DanesYou're very very very confused and clueless, stop asking AI about history and start thinking for yourself
>>541377945Yeah, it isn't used the same way as in slavic languages, it literally means border whereas kraj/krai just means region.
>ukraine's name means you need to surrenderKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>541378498russian males do not have sexual contact with russian females so you can make you're conclusions
>>541378475One of the bolts was already removed, the following comrade will remove the next set.
>>541378267I haven't even made any pro-russian posts, stop using russians as a boogeyman for whoever points out historical inaccuracies>>541378316You seem to be pulling some pretty hard mental gymnastics. "U" was not even used as a preposition so you're double wrong on this
>>541378624>I haven't even made any pro-russian posts,you neutrooledI pissed on your lakhto framing too often to not smell it
imagine arguing etymology with a memeflaggot rusnigg shillFIRE POINT IS SUPER, SUPER
>>541378686I didn't do any of those things in your pic unless you're claiming that wikipedia is a russian source that parrots russian narratives
>>541378686nah, you and ukiefinn are just being in denial about the origin of the name Ukraine and write ahistorical fanficand you're getting called out for it, shrimple
>>541378333Lenin letter to OrjonikidzeI beg you to pay serious attention to the Crimea and the Donets Basin with a view to creating a united fighting front against invasion from the West. Impress upon the Crimean comrades that the course of events makes defence imperative for them and that they must defend themselves irrespective of ratification of the peace treaty. Make them realise that the position of the north is substantially different from that of the south, and in view of the war, the actual war of the Germans against the Ukraine, help on the part of the Crimea, which (the Crimea) the Germans can gobble up in passing, is not only an act of neighbourly duty, but a requirement for self-defence and self– preservation. It is possible that Slutsky, failing to grasp the complexity of the present situation, has taken some other, simplified line of his own—in which case he must be put in his place in my name. Immediate evacuation of grain and metals to the east, organisation of demolition groups, the creation of a united front of defence from the Crimea to Great Russia, drawing in the peasants, a decisive and unqualified transformation Ukrainian-wise of our units in the Ukraine—these are the present tasks. Antonov should be forbidden to call himself Antonov-Ovseyenko—he must call himself simply Ovseyenko. The same applies to Muravyov (if he remains in his post) and others. As regards the Donets Republic, tell Comrades Vasilchenko, Zhakov and others that however much they may contrive to keep their region apart from the Ukraine, it—judging from the geography of Vinnichenko—will all the same he included in the Ukraine and the Germans will proceed to conquer it. In view of this, it is quite absurd for the DONETS REPUBLIC to refuse a UNITED defence front with THE REST OF THE UKRAINE. Mezhlauk was in Petrograd and he agreed to recognise the Donets Basin as an autonomous part of the Ukraine; Artyom has also agreed to this; therefore the obstinacy
>>541377644>of /u/p-political lesbianism...
>>541378746it's certainly not doing enough to counter themRussians have to be excluded from the discorse for it to have a chance at being in good faith
>>541378536yea it means border region. look at krai vs. oblast in Russia
