Do you believe NATO would come and send their military if Putin/Russia attacked Poland?Or would they rather cooperate with Putin to make another partitions of Poland?I cannot imagine german soldiers dying for Polish people.
>>541376391>Or would they rather cooperate with Putin to make another partitions of pooland?Partition an already partitioned economic zone? If it ain't broken don't fix it.
>>541376391To some extent, yes. You want to keep conflicts to stay in the buffer zones, not to spread towards you. There is no benefit for you to fight Russia on German/Polish border if you could have fought it on Polish/Ukranian border instead.
we had such loq iq posts many times kurwathere are german troops stationed already, helping to defend NATO borders. do you think they retreat any second or what!!
>>541376391They’re a bunch of pussies so they’ll try to bargain and perhaps give up Ukraine. Most realistic scenario
>>541376584Then why isn't NATO sending troops to Ukraine?
>>541377058why would it?
>>541376391Yes.U.S. Soldiers are stationed in Poland.
>>541376391Yes, due to two main reasons.First, the credibility of the alliance depends on how it reacts and defends its members. Ignoring attacks on Poland or the Baltics means the end of the alliance.Second, if war with Russia is innevitable, western european powers like France, Germany and the Uk would rather fight the war in Poland and not on theiir territories.
>>541376391Haven't you already been bombed like 5 times?I don't think the cavalry is coming Piotrek.
>>541377129>First, the credibility of the alliance depends on how it reacts and defends its members. Ignoring attacks on Poland or the Baltics means the end of the alliance.Yeah, and so what? Trump is already saying he wants to quit from NATO.The western european countries will just create NATO 2, without Slavic countries.>Second, if war with Russia is innevitable, western european powers like France, Germany and the Uk would rather fight the war in Poland and not on theiir territories.We had this situation in history already and they didn't do anything.
>>541376391It would be a gradual escalation. Poland would answer first.Small teams from various countries would join, but not on a massive scale. It would increase over time as front lines take shape.
What if Israel attacks Turkey?
>>541376391yes because they already training for it, convoy movements, etc.
>>541376391NATO is White Europan supremacist pact. However, even among White Europeans, there are hierarchies on Whiteness.Slavs are the lowest caste among Whites and higher caste Whites like Germans want them die.
>>541376391>Do you believe NATO would come and send their military if Putin/Russia attacked Poland?fuck no lmao
>>541377672>What if Israel attacks Turkey?Nothing, NATO won't do shit.
The entire world absolutely needs a Poland's next. Ukraine's lives are finite, Russia's are not.
>>541376391It's like ww2 start western europe does jackshit apart from giving scraps and trying their best to jump out until their lands get bombed to shit then they beg for america to save them
>>541377058are you the most dumbest kurwa in poolan!!!that isnt our job!that would start WW3>get your shit together pjoter
>>541376391I believe NATO would throw all its equipment at us, but I doubt they would send soldiers (aside from pilots). Maybe Americans would, but probably more in a training role than infantry.
>>541376391I won die for ZOG, that's for sure. So long as the regime refuses to defend White people, I will not help it.No one who supports NATO belongs here.
>>541376391Yeah I think it would.But if Russia nuked Poland NATO would not nuke Russia back for it but have respond with conventional weapons.I doubt western capitalist would be willing to risk losing everything over Poland however to send someone else to die there like NATO soldiers yeah why not.
>>541377058because it's not a part of NATO?
>>541378657in a real art5 yes. all nato would be there.now we only put defensive forces for your help there.
>>541378671>thinking article 5 mattersUkraine is getting de facto all help Poland would get. It's why the alliance is deathly afraid of anyone in eastern europe invoking it. It means nothing, and Putin knows it, which is why he keeps walking over NATO with drones lol
>>541376391Well Ivan, you're always welcome to try
>>541377584Trump isn't the king of America. Once he's out of office the next guy will definitely be pro-NATO. Considering the awful economy, rampant inflation and the Iran military debacle it's almost guaranteed that the next president will be a Democrat.
>>541376391If Russia set foot into Poland there would be an immediate nuclear standoff between Russia and the U.S. and if Russia didn't back off the button would get pressed. Everyone knows this so it's not on the table. And even if nukes weren't a factor, Ukraine has and will continue to tap all of Russia's available strength for the foreseeable future. Even if Russia won and annexed the whole thing tomorrow, they would have to commit to governing and policing an unstable frontier where they are universally despised. Combine that with their economic woes and their inability to use the usual method of calming a populace down(giving them money and letting them be happy little wagies) and you get a recipe for a nice simmering foreverwar in their own back yard. Modern Poland's entire discourse on Russia is totally centered around anxiety rather than imminent threat.
>>541376391Yes. If not Nato is over.
>>541376391NATO is physically not capable of sending troops quickly, even if they had any. A while ago the French tried to send four thousand people to Romania and just gave up after six months or so.
>>541379081Understandable, I wouldn't want to go there either.
>>541378920It would be a sure thing if the Democrats weren't shitting the bed right now. The DSA revolt against kike party elders is in full swing and it's an absolute clownshow. Come time to select a Presidential candidate the DSA are going to make an attempt to force through one of their own candidates and the establishment is going to try to shut them down. The Democrat presidential primary is outright rigged and there is a good chance of the establishment getting their way but then again their policy of leaning on shitskin voting blocs and shitskin worshippers might blow up in their face and see a DSA candidate gain enough momentum to defy the superdelegates. Either way, both sides will sabotage each other in the Presidential race and that might be enough for a Republican candidate to squeek through.
>>541379081They know they don't need to, at least for the moment. The French military managed to get just enough support from their government for the exercise but everyone else in the EU actively obstructed or was utterly indifferent so the exercise went tits up. Managerial bureaucrats don't want to shift spending from the social programs they skim off of to the military industrial-complex and they won't until they genuinely feel threatened.
>>541379117KEK>>541378657we have troops there now!why you morons dont understand that...https://www.bmvg.de/de/themen/dossiers/die-nato-staerke-und-dialog/schutz-der-nato-ostflankehttps://www.bundeswehr.de/de/auftrag/einsaetze/missionen/anerkannte-missionen/nato-air-policing-baltikum
>>541379081no need to send troops in quick response. they are there for defense right away.any attempt would trigger art5 immediately!https://www.bmvg.de/de/aktuelles/truppe-fuer-litauen-aus-nordrhein-westfalen-und-bayern-5699662https://www.pnp.de/nachrichten/politik/deutschland-stationiert-dauerhaft-4000-soldaten-in-litauen-12194925
>>541379642>we have troops there now!yeah and it would be "we did our part" thing if the conflict required more
>>541376391Russia doesn't want Poland. It wants Ukraine, the Baltic states and Georgia.The question is " will NATO put troops on the line when Russia inevitably invades the Baltic states"
>>541380391come on pjoterwhy you think we would let you down?that would go big time scale conflict instantly and more would be on the way.
>>541380513I'm just going by the history. If NATO actually united and risked their comfort just to defend bumfuck nowhere props to you but in the meanwhile I think it would be dangerous game to count on this.but if nothing else, NATO membership is a good deterrent. You bet if Poland wasn't in NATO, there would be regularly drones hitting Warsaw "by accident", just because we're helping Ukraine. And this is why I can't hate on the West even if I wanted to
>>541376391Russians have conventional war for eastern Ukraine (Kievan Rus ) because it's basically Family for them!But do not fall into self delusion That Russians will go fight for Freedom of Poland from EU GB or USA!(maybe Slovaks get Pass tho not sure) But everything westward from Kiev Is NUKES territory !!!No more save berlin !Just sweep it clean!
>>541380683>on the West even if I wanted towe are your only hope my friend!the ruskis would start with us, they know whats comming back!!!
>>541376391You better do it now because when AfD takes over we will probably leave both EU and Nato
>>541380755So nobody is going to save Poland from the gay marrIage?They cant save themselves because they are submissive by nature.
>>541380951>save Poland from the gay marrIage?Slavniggers on VPNs can't into articles
>>541380683we are there side by sidehttps://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2033875/lithuania-expects-german-brigade-plan-ready-in-september-minister
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>>541376391Henlo!Hell ON!x)
>>541381372Ahaha it's milkniggerʻ
>>541376391I would not show up
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>>541381372>>541381523can we for once be serious hereis russia a threat to us and how could we defend ourselfs?>we are on the same side. remember!!!
>>541376391Sure i would want my country to defend Poland.But do Lehistanis have the same sheer autistic slav spite to die in drone warfare to protect western interests like Ukrainians?
>>541376391there won't be a war between nato and russia. ever. nukes exist.the fact that you even ask such stupid question only proves how afraid you dumbfuck aregood job, you have fallen for jewish lies. now you can send more money to amerika.
>>541381672Oh please The bomb salemen have been telling us Russia has been about to invade Europe for 80 years. So anyday now?Ever think its just a sales tactic?
>>541376391I don't care because Poland would destroy the entirety of r*ssia.Finland and balts can join in.
>>541376391>I cannot imagineIndeed. Lack of imagination is a sign of low IQ
>>541382203well you never know with ivan...better be ready then sorryhttps://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/05/22/chancellor-merz-inaugurates-german-brigade-in-lithuania-to-strengthen-natos-eastern-flank
>>541382202>nukes exist.lmao. No country will risk an actual nuclear war over any "ally". Existance of nukes only gives you a way to say fuck you to US and easily start offensive wars against non nuclear cunts.
>>541376391>class ADo you really think British mothers would be ok with their sons dying for Finland?
>>541382339Yes.The kike arms dealers will make a fortune off the Baltics in the next few years.
>>541382998ok nevermindwhats your newest developments
>>541383202>The Ukrainian Black Sea ports in and around Odessa are said to have been bombed so heavily that Ukraine has effectively become a landlocked country. If these reports are accurate, this would be a severe blow: to date, around 70% of all Ukrainian imports and exports, as well as 90% of agricultural exports, have been handled via these ports. Key bridges, such as the Zatoka Bridge, which connects Odessa with the Romanian Black Sea ports, have also been destroyed. Furthermore, rail and road links, petrol stations, the power grid, industrial facilities and warehouses are being systematically destroyed.
>>541378815>Ukraine helpIn decimating polish people
>>541383471so
>>541376391If Russia could take Poland they could take Germany and France with 10% of the effort.If Russia beats strongest military in europe + extremly hostile population. Then anti white economic zones full of arabs on welfare dont stand a chance.
>>541383690Polish civilians do not want to fight in this war because Polish government robbed them of everything, males do not have wives, family, children, housing, good job, they have nothing.If Putin manages to beat Polish military then he will take over whole country.
>>541376391Listen up I dont care, I just dont If war breaks out I will spend my time in basement or trying to get as far as possible from the war I don’t have any urge to fight so Jew team 1 or Jew team 2 can gain more wealth and replace more of my people
>>541384105>If Putin manages to beat Polish military then he will take over whole country.what country, yours, EU, NATO, world?>>541384157pragmatic twink
>>541384224If my country is on its way to become like Germany I would rather die knowing I had nothing to do with it Best I can do is make babies with my gf and hope they do the same with their gfsNo retarded GI Joe propaganda induced larping
>>541383690 The economic zone is just that: economic. It is held up solely through the power of money. Russia does not have money, even if by some miracle NATO evaporated, nukes ceased to exist, and the Ukraine war ended today then Russia would not be able to rule anything it took. None of the shitskins would fall in line without gips, which the Russian state cannot provide. Nor would any of the actual Europeans because their wagie lifestyle, the one thing keeping them docile, would evaporate. Couple that with trying to rule over a very hostile Ukraine and would break Russia's back. No, for Russia the move is to finish the Ukraine war and then try to get Europe back on Russian gas and extort the best possible price.
>>541384224>what country, yours, EU, NATO, world?Poland.Polish civilians do not support the war, they don't have anything worth defending, government took our women, kids, houses, we have nothing to defend.So if Putin invades it will be only Polish military vs Russian military.
The Pole is already seeking help. “Please, let someone come and defend me; let someone do it for me.” We will face the threat to our homeland on our own, no one else
>>541376391>Do you believe NATO would come and send their military if Putin/Russia attacked Poland?they would send a strongly worded letter and rejoice at the fact that in 5 years everything will be settled and they can do business with russia again. the average westoid thinks you're a parasite and an ingrate and the russians should punish you for taking their tax euros.
>>541378670>Yeah I think it would.think specifically. can you imagine any western european head of state actually committing troops to a war in eastern europe? you're fucking delusional.
>>541385246nobody will help you because you wouldn't help anybody either. would you send troops to the baltics? fuck no. why do you expect yourself to be treated any differently?NATO is all smoke and mirrors. it had deterrence power while the US was in it, the russians couldn't count on it being a bluff, but none of the actual westoid countries want anything to do with NATO.
>>541384778>Polish civilians do not support the war, they don't have anything worth defending, government took our women, kids, houses, we have nothing to defend.>So if Putin invades it will be only Polish military vs Russian military.The jews will kidnap and van Polish people, just like they do to the Ukrainians currently.
>>541384105Some poles not all. Poles are still nationalistic and anti russian on average. I would even say poles are way more likely to fight russians compared to ukranians. Poles always hated russians.I met a lot of you I know what Im talking about. You cannot even compare polish motivation vs french or german motivation for a war against russia.>>541384707Shitskins would fall in line. Didnt 400 chechens mop the floor whith all arabs od Marseile over one incident. European shitskins are some of the worst fighters on the planet.
We don't care what NATO does. We will be there. Go fuck yourselves.
>>541376391nah, they will ride their dildos moremy stance we shall like make some corridors for russkies to invade West, and let them finish EUSSR
>>541386104Poles are anti russian but not enough to go to war and die in it. Polish politicians are corrupt as fuck and people don't want to die for them.
>>541376391>Finland>Class Acome on now nigger
>>541376391Poland?Yeah it would, assuming it's no falsr flag / Polish attack inviting it.
>>541376391>Do you believe NATO would come and send their military if Putin/Russia attacked Poland?no, they will start a war of attration in poland and i will support it with all my might
>>541376391Hitler thought Britain and France wouldn't go to war for Poland. The Kaiser thought Britain wouldn't go to war for the scrap of paper of Belgian neutrality. Of course NATO goes to war with Russia over Poland or the Baltics, that's what NATO exists for: to set a limit to Russia and contain it by force.
>>541376391Stop thibking in term of Nato and Russia. Think in term of Rotschilds and chabbad Lubavitchs. You are only meat to them.
>>541386104It's not a matter of them being good fighters, it's a matter of the Russian state not being able to pacify them with gibs. Brown normoids are still normoids and what gets them to shit down, shut up, and be good little plebs is gibs.
>>541376391>Class A, Class BThis isn't a thing
>>541376391I don't know. History seems very split this time around. Back in WW3 Germany did not claim defensive invasions, they just kinda started killing people like some psychos, after announcing a fevered europe-wide plan for genocide and slavery disneyland.This time around west behavior is very ambiguous and easily interprets as veiled hostility even to a non-educated person.If threat of Russia attacking Poland is real-real, then this narrative likely stems from Polish "politics" towards Russia being analogous to Ukraine's.Russia escalated Ukraine's economic/passive geopolitical war into military action. Is Poland afraid, because it's doing the same?
>>541376391>Russia>Attacking PolandThey can't even get past Ukraine in 4 years. What makes you think they can viably go after Poland
>>541387756>Russia escalated Ukraine's economic/passive geopolitical war into military action. Is Poland afraid, because it's doing the same?Yes.>>541387889Ukraine is almost out of "soldiers" (kidnapped males), it will eventually collapse.
I believe Europeans would.Americans, not so much.
>>541376391>if Putin/Russia attacked Polandcan you have your mental health checked already ? Poland is attacking russia with 10s of thousands of "volunteers" fighting in ukraine most of whom are already dead. Russia has otherwise zero reasons for even acknowledging the existence of poland let alone attacking it.
>>541389141Plus polish press gangs are kidnapping ukrainians off the street
>>541376391>sends gigatons of weapons and "volunteers" to a ZOG entity at war with Russia>cries out in pain if Russia retaliatesdoesn't work that way, if Russia hits you you are on your own. Forget about article 5. You will be left alone thinking about your bad life choices.
>>541376391Poland should switch sides with Russia and start exterminating western europe to the last manIf I could choose between saving 1 nigger or the entirety of western Europe I would choose the nigger
>>541389141>Poland is attacking russia with 10s of thousands of "volunteers" fighting in ukraine most of whom are already dead.How do you know this? I doubt any Polish civilian would go and fight in this war.>>541389204>Plus polish press gangs are kidnapping ukrainians off the streetIn Poland or Ukraine? I haven't read anything about this.
>>541390091Alot of the kidnapping videos lately show cars with polish plates.
>>541390194>Alot of the kidnapping videos lately show cars with polish plates.I believe you, but it doesn't prove the Polish people are kidnapping Ukrainians. Maybe the Ukrainians/jews registered the cars in Poland, for some reason?
>>541387484You overestimate the power of nationless brown parasites. Russia would probably make an example out of one getto and burn it all down. Only allies of browns are globalist elites that everyone hates. Without police protection they would be killed even now by locals.
>>541387086Maybe some still number of poles that would fight is far greater than number of germans french etc. Poles at least have a nation. Sure a corrupt nation but there is hope you can make a coup and change stuff. West has nationless economic zone. Oligarchs goverment bureaucrats and welfare arabs are not a source of soldiers in any way.Right wing parties would probably strike some deal with russia to make DDR 2.0 in case of germany or something like that.
>>541391598Yes, in multi-race globohomo country, the morale of the military and people is low, why would they even fight for?
>>541391917No one knows that. When your nation is run by coalition of parasites you dont get anyone ready to die for it. These poeple are also narcisistic enough to belive that their arrogance will inspire confidence. Have you noticed eu propagandists putting picture of von derleyen as some representative of europe. Its so delusional. Its basicaly propaganda of the enemy. If I wanted to shill for EU I wouldnt even mention her name. Let alone put a bilboard. Its like motivating US soldiers with pictures of Epstein.
>>541392840>Have you noticed eu propagandists putting picture of von derleyen as some representative of europe. Its so delusional. Its basicaly propaganda of the enemy. If I wanted to shill for EU I wouldnt even mention her name. Let alone put a bilboard. Its like motivating US soldiers with pictures of Epstein.Yes, that bitch is hated in Poland, even pro-EU people are not so happy about her.
>>541376391UK, France and Germany would step in as far as Afd, Reform and Le Pen are not in power. Some of the others would follow. Putin is too weak for that though. Its more likely to see china take over taiwan (still unlikely) that seeing that happen.
>>541394008>*as long as Afd, Reform and Le Pen are not in power
>>541394008>UK, France and Germany would step in as far as Afd, Reform and Le Pen are not in power.But they will be in power, soon.
Will they help?
>>541395637Doubt.
>>541397448True
