hello 4chan.i haven't updated cuz nothing new that matters happened.for today, the water bottles' shortage is at crisi level never seen before (reminder: tap is undrinkable in tunisia). in addition a shortage in medicine occured. especially life saving ones. also, electricity and tap cuts have returned after disappearing for the past 2 weeks or so.police engaged with protesters twice, yesterday and today, in some minor claches in the capital.a dude from the city of bin guirden was found in the middle of the sea of sousse (a city ~100km north) dead. there was an illegal immigration attempt that failed miserably.now, weather you're with or against immigration, this should never happen.a homeless dude in the city of sidi bouzid entered a restaurant and asked for some food. when the restaurant refused, the guy wandered out saying "damn.. i want to eat.. im hungry" and literally 12 minutes later he was found dead of hunger.in the city of bni khalled, a family was peacefully sitting in the entrance of their home (basically the porch for my americanons), when suddenly a group of men with literal swords charged in and stole everything.i know you probably don't care about the non-political things in the last 3 paragraphs, but im not telling them looking for sympathy, but simply to show the projection of the actually political problems on day-to-day life.i want to ask, does anyone of you know how to form an underground group? i want to learn how it works because i wanna build a group to put a stop to this. contact me on discord: chou3ayrathand you for your time.
How is this different from Tunisia 5 years ago?
>>541380164k.. keep me posted
>>541380209we had electricity non stop, water non stop, less crime, less hunger, less people dying for stupid and easily avoidable reasons, cheaper stuff, less shortages, and less shuving propaganda up our asses
>>541380164Don't think this is the best place to post this considering the number of retarded white racists.Seems like you need to either be white or larp as one to get somewhat coherent and somewhat rational conversations.
>>541380311true, but i also find some really wholesome one and for them i post
>>541380164Can you not boil and filter the tap water?Groups you just form in person with like minded people. If it gets too big or you allow anyone to join then you risk cops or rival groups joining as well. The best way to form an underground resistance is to keep it to 4 or 5 close people you have known for years in a decentralized resistance that contains thousands or more groups.
>>541380268So what changed? What's going wrong with Tunisia?
>>541380362boiling is useless because its not a bacterial problem, and filtration systems are expensive.five people can do nothing on their own, right??>contains thousandshow to make the jump from 5 to thousands without risking undercovers?
>>541380397read the fucking thread
>>541380164sounds grim, and do you still refuse to get a job? You wanted revolution instead of getting a job last time I saw your thread
>>541380311I think Egyptanon is correct. I might be a white nationalist and borderline racist (because of encounters with flawed individuals of the Arab mentality), but I do have compassion for people in need. I hate to read things like OP is saying, people dying of hunger or the home invasion. While I do not want OP to come to my country I want his country to be safe.Your best bet form an "underground group" is to start making friends and hope people in your area have the same mindset. Good luck.Tbh if all of us "retarded white racists" banded together and helped indigious peoples of the countries we hate, to give native populations to the tools and knowhow how to make their own countries safe and first world.. Then that would benefit is in the long run. If Tunesia, Syria, ... Whatever shithole.. Is no longer a shithole, why would the people come to our nations? Wh*te w*men? Lol. Lmao even.
>>541380507nigga im still studying
>>541380587best borderline racist i ever seen. btw im myself against illegal immigration, but if its legal and even needee by the host country... why not?
>>541380164My man.... if someone gets killed in Tunisia it makes headlines? How quaint, how bloody adorable is that? I think you might have just convinced me to go see that country one day.
>>541380450You don’t scale it to 5000. You keep it extremely small, maybe a half dozen people or so, and you look to exploit weaknesses where you can have a disproportionate impact. The key is not to directly confront the regime, but to help it to collapse on its own, and then in the ensuing chaos you fill in power vacuums.
>>541380720last original joke on the internet
>>541380620right so you're a major tax burden
>>541380724how can 12 people do that? i can get how 12 ppl can find exploits, but how can they possibly use them? its 12 fkng ppl
>>541380708I agree somewhat. If the host nation needs it and it's population agrees with it, I don't see the flaw unless it encroaches on the national identity and culture of the nation.When are you going to firebomb officials?
>>541380819i pay for uni retard
>>541380835probably won't. even if a literal revolution breaks out id like the minimum physical violence as possible
>>541380708Who cares about legality? It’s about deciding what’s important to you and working out from there. We’re talking about niggers here, not future doctors. So you get lower class wage suppression, gibs, more votes for socialist parties, and a dialectic centered around identity, in which the dominant group is constantly brought down by subversive language games. Only preferable If you want to see the entire society fall apart.
>>541380450Sand and rocks in a bag can filter as well. You have internet access. Research how to do it.As the other anon said do not scale it to 5000. Keep it decentralized. General concepts shared but each group does it on their own. Some groups will be retarded and try to grow big but they always always always get infiltrated. Today in America most of these public groups you can join are entitely federal stings designed to capture those wanting to join.If the target of your group is the government or government adjacent then I do not recommend large groups where anyone can join but rather a few people you have known and trusted for a long time.
>>541380164Well the first piece of advice I would give you about your underground group is that under no fucking circumstance should you ever mention or talk about your underground group on any digital device for the remainder of time
>>541380826That’s how many people Castro had with him before he took Cuba.
>>541380939alright i think i get it
>>541381001will do anon
>>541381087ow wow, that's interesting
Ok but whats the point of a heckin secret anonymoose underground group when you're the only one from that dump of a country
>>541381227actually i know quite a lot of tunisian who use 4chan, but they don't like to expose their nationality because racist retards will make their life hell like a mosquito in a warm night
>>541380164>i want to ask, does anyone of you know how to form an underground group? i want to learn how it works because i wanna build a group to put a stop to this. contact me on discord: chou3ayraI regret to inform you that this is a lot more technological than you would think.As an example, the US had many such groups in Iran, but a bunch of them got busted because the police figured out their methods of communication. This happened in at least 2 waves, where they first used special websites on the regular internet and in the second case they used starlink.Pretty much everyone involved got killed or arrested. Some kind of phone to phone bluetooth works, but that basically just turns your phone into a short ranged walkie-talkie.Secure communication technology is an entire branch of science so all I can do is with you luck. The basic bitch way is to straight up not use electronic devices. Here, we have the example of Russia and China that do their most important internal meetings offline, write down the conclusion on a piece of paper and then a military officer takes a case with these documents to the other side under guard.
>>541381111Remeber to keep it offline and never have digital communication. When you meet do not allow cell phones or any electronic devices.I spent the past 5 minutes learning about the situation in your country. I recommend targeting utilities that supply areas where military live. The only way you will have change is if a rival to the president comes in to take it or if the military does a coup. The current president only has control in the military which controls the citizens. You have to weaken his control over military to have change.But I like others am just a racist White national socialist speaking. But I do despise fascist situations like Tunisia currently is.
>>541381340i get the point of view, the thing is, alot of like minded people i know are online
>>541380450Alaska anon here:I filter my water with 2 50 gal drums packed with sand/pebbles/gravel/rock in that order for reusing my clothes washing water. Here you have to go really deep for potable water so I have to truck it in.
>>541381479um... i think a military coup will only worsen the situation
>>541381520useful, thanks!
>>541381514There are still ways. The Signal application is one, if you think you can trust that.There are things like Tox chat, but for that you need to make sure everyone knows what they are doing.>>541381582Oh, if you have water problems you can usually solve that by first filtering it through sand and gravel and then boiling it.If it's really bad you might want to look into a solar still.
>>541380164just kill politicians and bring new ones, after a while kill those too, next 100 years you will be heaven on earth
>>541381711the only things i really trust are matrix or a custom chatting interface on tor. the thing is, matrix lacks advancing discord-like organization, and building a bare bones chat on yor is already hard enough
>>541380450>and filtration systems are expensive.how? Reverse Osmosis home system is like $100-$150 and you have fucking sparkling clean water!
>>541381856Yeah, I know. I mentioned Tox because it's one of the exceedingly few easily available self hosted solutions, but the problem is that to use it you have to be familiar with the basics because all it takes is one retard to expose everyone.Secure communication is a high demand skill and governments go out of their way to keep it out of people's hands.
>>541380708>but if its legal and even needee by the host country... why not?no one needs brown hordes! stay home and fight for your country!
>>541380164>i want to ask, does anyone of you know how to form an underground group? i want to learn how it works because i wanna build a group to put a stop to this.you know, we shouldnt be posting tips like that here because this board is glowing. I would give you some tips on discord but can't do atm, and I am not even sure if I am willing considering the risks. No hard feelings.whats the end goal? Topple the government? This can be possible but aint easy. There is no way to get rid of evil, and you cant replace broken systems, you're best bet would be to join the broken system and try to do your best to improve them but not replace them.> how to make the jump from 5 to thousands without risking undercovers?You must expect undercovers, and you must plan accordingly and take into account hostile elements being a sure given
>>541380164>how to form an underground groupPicrel
>>541381916>how? Reverse Osmosis home system is like $100-$150 and you have fucking sparkling clean water!and where exactly do you get the water to filter it considering the desert like situation?
>>541380587>While I do not want OP to come to my country I want his country to be safe.Makes perfect sense.If their country is doing ok they have lesser reasons to come into ours
>>541381821nigga
anarsec and notrace.howcant give you more details, as I said this board is glowing
>>541381916first of all dont compare us prices to tunisian prices. second of all, sparkling water is trash
>>541381975im willing to learn and teach others
>>541382093from tap! he have tap (non drinkable) water, frate
>>541381979im one of the few people you'll ever meet that doesn't want to leave his shithole of a country (even legally) until he fixes it
>>541382238>sparkling water is trash>be sandnigger>have no drinking water>call sparkling clean water trashwhy are sand niggers like this?
>>541382284>im willing to learn and teach othershhahahahahahahahahahhahahaDON'T!
>>541382012>no hard feelingssame for you, please dont take offese cuz i disagree.>cant replace a systemi really believe i can.. yeah sure i want to topple the gov, but also make a new one instead because the political void will be abused by another corrupt system or even the same old one
>>541382072literal gold. thanks alot.
>>541382194one more protipThe Nest Leader's Manual (1933) by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Is a practical and ideological handbook intended for the leaders of the Legionary cells ("nests")
>>541382292it cuts alot of times
>>541382366first of all my skin isn't even dark.second of all this is water we talkin bout. it should be available at allfkn times
>>541380268Yeah bro it’s like this everywhere u ain’t special. And fuck off with the glownigger shit
>>541382366>>call sparkling clean water trashbut sparkling water is trash, makes you blurp and fartits only good for mixology
>>541380311Kek are you the femdom feminist from yesterday?
>>541382600empty bottles, nigger, do you have them?
>>541380164>i want to ask, does anyone of you know how to form an underground group?First goal is survival.Second goal is communication.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeshtasticTell everyone who wants to participate (and do it yourself) to use a LoRa network with encrypting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaoWhsioksI doubt shitskin government can handle this.Use end-to-end encryption. Discord is fine for non-hot communications. Do not assume they are safe, you can be MitM'd even Discord is secure, as long as the packets are not encrypted on your end before they leave the machine.TATP can be made with camping fuel, battery acid and hydrogen peroxide. It's extremely explosive, which is not a good thing - keep it in an ice bath and monitor temperature, and do not make large batches out of greed just because one went right. You want to dry out the crystals without introducing friction, excessive heat, or static to them.Good luck anon. I don't even know your politics but if you can't get food or water I don't really care what your politics are. First focus on getting consistent food and water (focus on food, filter through sand/charcoal as anons said) and secure food as soon as possible.Remember that politicians need to live somewhere. That somewhere will need to be fed, supplied, protected.They can protect a villa or a palace, but can they protect a 200km stretch of a bare road? If so, how much? How well?If you are serious about WINNING, then think logistics, supplies, and communications. Someone else can do the dirty work, and you will not have shortage of people up for it if you are not bullshitting.Use dead drops. Never see people face to face. If they want to see you face to face, tell them to fuck off.When you win, remember thirst and hunger.
>>541382600>first of all my skin isn't even dark.
>>541382693neighbor please! I used that figuratively, as to how clean is end product of Reverse Osmosis
>>541382760you can put your hand in my dick
>>541380311>the number of retarded white racists.I am a White racist and I welcome any nigger's attempt to unfuck their country and stop trying to come into mine.>>541382755As an afterthought - DO NOT CENTRALIZE. If you want to succeed, teach them everything you know, and tell them to NOT CENTRALIZE.There is no benefit to centralization. Decentralized + voluntary participation cannot be dismantled. Even if you, the original creator of the original cell gets caught and killed by government goons, the effort can well outlive you until it either succeeds, or the reason that caused the uprising disappears.
>>541382860yup, its nigger!
>>541382890im starting to think people like you and that belgian anon are gonna be a big help
OK anons, be gentle, he IS retard.bye
>>541382755>LoRalora is awesome but sadly the range is like max 200km, also make sure you order your walkie talkies safely meaning anonymousfor ham radio, governments have radio frequency tracking devices, the signal can be pinpointed, but make sure you have a radio station with transmission features besides receiving, that is old and not registered.I still use mine from my grandpa, its like from ~1980, when we used to clandestine hear the radio free europe
>>541383094thats a ranking of what exactly?
>>541383044Like I said, good luck anon. Best recruitment tool would be simply help. If you can give someone clean water when they can find none, very few people would reject the idea of helping you when at that point you are more capable than the government already. I also don't know what your shithole is going through so decide what is the concrete problem and whether it truly needs blood to be spilled. If a peaceful solution can be reached, that should always be aimed for.If there is only one obstacle and he has a name, that's a problem half-solved. If the problem is on a societal scale, then you've got a much bigger one.Also a little addendum - by camping fuel I meant hexamine, but that may not be obvious.Seriously, don't fuck with TATP unless you know what you are doing. It's called mother of satan for a reason.
>>541380708Don't tell to anyone but any "racist" think like that.
>>541382755>focus on foodFocus on WATER. Fuck. I barely had a chance to finish my coffee just now.Anyway, the government should at least have a bandaid immediate solution in form of rice handouts and public water dispensers. I don't believe a country with $60bn GDP can't even get their hands on drinkable water to hand out to the public.
>>541383241many thanks anon...it has been alot to take in and i feel a bit overwhelmed, but i will digest the information sooner or later
>>541383389kek, its fine.cant you come to discord? i really want to talk about some stuff
4chan isn't what you need. the main servers are in haifa
>>541383417>it has been alot to take in and i feel a bit overwhelmedNo shit. If my people were dying of thirst and hunger on the streets like fucking dogs I'd be a little overwhelmed by the idea I might need to abandon my life to do something about it.If you HAVE water and food, you are better off than those who don't. Assuming you are clear-minded and aren't exaggerating how fucked the situation is. If a sizable portion of your population is literally struggling to find safe drinking water, the government has no reason to exist or collect taxes anymore.I recommend stockpiling on raspberry pis and drone motors. You could buy ready-made ones from the chinaman, but I guarantee you that those would be eventually tracked and traced to you.Again, you may not even need funny drone tactics. Tailor your level of violence to the minimum required to resolve this, and STICK to it. Do not elevate, do not relent. Work on the base of good information. If all of the government has to go, and they ALL have to go - remove them, and make it clear that if they do not move, they will be dislodged.Also if shit is really that bad and you are not LARPing or exaggerating, do not become apathetic. Once you have your own food and water, it's easy to stop caring that others don't. The question is whether you are fighting for *your* well-being, or everyone's.
>>541381479>You have to weaken his control over military to have change.Very important, military deciding to abandon the regime is always the tipping point in these situations. It's the reason the Chinese communists are still (unfortunately) in power
>>541383510>cant you come to discord?I am not as knowledgeable as you may think, anon, and I do not trust that shit company.I can't help you beyond what I already helped you. All of what I told you can be easily found on the internet, you just need to ask yourself what the problem is, and then look for a solution.Switch off discord as soon as you would do anything that has a wikipedia article.
>>541383687thats alot to take in as well kek
>>541383749>and I do not trust that shit company.Second this, coordinating on Discord is very unwise. Also get a VPN if you haven't already
>>541383730>>541381479I don't know the political/societal sentiment in Tunisia, but I know for a fact that very often the military only follows orders until it becomes socially acceptable not to.I'd go against fighting the military, and even if, I'd go against fighting the average infantryman, who probably has family or friends going through the same shit as everyone else and would love to put a bullet in the people responsible.
>>541383749noted
>>541380164No man is an island. There must already be groups forming, find a good leader and serve them. Preferably through real life channels because the internet is fully controlled, assuming you want independence from govt overregulation.
>>541380164Based restaurant
For most of us, its impossible to imagine dying of thirst of hunger, because we have so much abundance of this, when we are thinking about poverty we think of something else but this is a low bar beyond comprehension because:dig a hole, you get clean fresh waterthrow anything in the ground, it just growsI hope you overcome your challenges, I am outGL anon
>>541383865i ain't dealin with military shit
>>541383903ill look into that
>>541383919i hope you experience being starved close to death and ask for food, and i hope they actually give you food because im not a death wishing faggot like you, and i hope you become a decent human being after that and help us fight fascism
>>541381582Also what the other anon said about solar>have access to saltwater>use solar to desalinate>sell/use salt drink waterTheres easy diy on YT for the set up. Cheap to build. Sorry you guys have bad water. As someone who spent time in the desert/arid regions no water is torment.
>>541380164Was the Arab Spring worth it?>>541381856With a small group of people it's not necessary.>>541383903Meeting another group or leader might be a trap. Or their OPSEC might be garbage which is basically the same thing. Look into how they're doing things in Myanmar or other far flung countries that aren't Arab. Less risk and they've done amazing things with 3d printers.
>>541380450>filtration systems are expensive.just burn some wood in a barrel to get activated carbon and put it in a sock. Run the water through a sock filled with the activated carbon. Then boil the water or add a few bleach drops depending on the container size.
>>541384490>Meeting another group or leader might be a trapAll they want is water, medicine, and maybe a change of government. I'm pretty sure we supported them last time they asked for a new government. Put it on my tab
>>541384490>Was the Arab Spring worth it?Was thinking how bleak it is that this is happening in Tunisia in particular, since it was meant to be the one Arab country that transitioned into a liberal democracy
>>541384490ooo... interesting
>>541384608kek
>>541380164Step one: Dig a concealed hole; create a refuge.(not necessarily literal)
>>541384608the whole thing was started by a Tunisian setting himself on fire iirc
>>541380708I want you to have a nice life in your country, but if you ever come here I will fucking kill you. Fight for your country and fix it, don't go away running like a coward to become a parasite in white countries. At some point whites are going to have enough of your bullshit and we are going to kill every single one of you. Why do you expect white people to feed you?
>>541380587>Tbh if all of us "retarded white racists" banded together and helped indigious peoples of the countries we hate, to give native populations to the tools and knowhow how to make their own countries safe and first world.. Then that would benefit is in the long run.wow "might be" white nationalist eh?BRO this has already been tried. "white saviour complex" and "colonial oppression" are the only terms of thanks pink boy countries will ever get for spreading their jewblighted usury collection under the guise of "civilization," and rightly so. trade between civilizations is older than your native population's stone age. people don't WANT your globohomo-cultural corporate-oligarchial pseudo-city-state-royal forced trade and cultural subjugation.
One of the main problems with Tunisia's water is chemical contaminants. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202606.1917
>>541384849Is it really fair to call them "cowards" if they were born in much more desperate circumstances than you?
The next obvious problem is 5 years of drought. https://www.ecohubmap.com/hot-spot/the-water-crisis-in-tunisia/48kj2kll9eyj2l
>>541385049>using vinyls to detoxify waterChrist. "Scientists".
>>541380164Your women are sexy and fuck like pornstars
>>541385123We were not born in those circumstances because our ancestors killed the people responsible before it got to that point.
>>541384402Anon, you still with us?
>>541382860>inNice
>>541385049>>541385179>>541385192>water wars over Nestle despite a good water table because heavy industry poisoned ithow do we fix this? OP is just the beginning.
>>541380164What's causing this? I have to admit, ever since the 2021 protests where a dude I knew on Facebook got arrested, I haven't been following Tunisian news that well
>>541384889You should try to understand why it failed. Yes it's the jews, every single time.
>>541384657Tunisians are like the least religious Muslims. Besides Lebanon and maybe Morocco. I worked with a Tunisian guy and he was a really good dude. Hope things work out for you.
>>541380164Why did all of this happen though? Is it because the Hormussi is closed and everyone is bombing each other's energy infrastructure?
Start by becoming the water boy. You can buy friends with water. Create your own community network that support each other because the government doesnt.
>>541385394>how do we fix this?By not letting corporations fuck with your water. I would say "you have guns, so use them", but at this point you should use drones. Guns are obsolete.
>>541385807you have to protect the water forever through life and death, corps only have to poison it once
>>541385879>you have to protect the water forever through life and deathWell, get to protecting, anon. And get others to start doing it.The message should be clear - fuck with my water and you die. Never bluff.It's ridiculous to expect one person to protect the entire country's water supply, but you can start locally. If I find out someone is fucking with MY water, they won't live through the attempt.You can look up the response to the time the main Polish river was filled with toxic shit. There was a massive outrage right away.
>>541386035ok how do we reclaim some of these poisoned lands? Maybe you could flush the entire water table using fracking equipment hooked up to potable water
>>541386215>ok how do we reclaim some of these poisoned lands?Specialized equipment and organized response.There's no other way, anon. Destruction takes seconds, creation takes millennia. Entropy is cruel but fair.
>>541385668This is what I’m wondering as well is this a new problem since the war started or is this something that’s boiled over since the US destroyed Libya. I know that the Obama administration targeted water pipes in that country. Would you say your president is a puppet of the US?
>>541382711Seems u want a session.
>>541384402Is there groundwater in Tunisia? Would igging wells and using a rocm/sand filtration system that other anons mentioned be feasible? How restristive is the government vis-a-vis the internet? Do they monitor online chatter? Do you or anyone you know have shortwave radio or some other form of decebtralized communication? Would fleeing the country with your family to a neighbouring state be possible for you if things get even worse? Hope things get better anon, tough times ahead
>>541385227>our ancestors killed the people responsible before it got to that point.
>>541386503Will admit I'm curious, you'd probably demolish me though
>>541385668With chemical contaminants it's like Northern New Jersey: let chemical companies do whatever they want for 40 years and then you get a Superfund Site.
>>541380164> dead of hungerHunger is not a direct sudden cause of death.He would have been too weak to walk if he had been starved to a life threatening degree.He may have died from a heart attack or some other health problem.
>>541380311No you don't. Just learn how to throw back what is dished out.>GoatfuckerDogfucker>ZuttMuttIt's really easy. In case you're not sure you can just call them timmy or ranjeet.It's bafflingly stupid. There are no whiteoids on /pol/ only mutts and morons
I knew a guy from Tunisia once, but we lost touch, hope he is doing alright
>>541380164oh no not my holiday destination
