Finland's president thinks that Ukraine hitting Russian warehouses will make Russia yield and accept Ukraine's demands. Are EU officials disconnected from reality ?
He’s just a Finno-swede. His children can’t even speak Finnish.
>>541394676That's unironically disrespectful towards your country
>>541394676You could just say he's a homo. More efficient.
>>541393995>will make Russia yield and accept Ukraine's demandsIt won't but it makes Russia seethe which is fun to watch.
>>541393995>Are EU officials disconnected from reality>nonelected>disconnected>schzophrenicmaybe they do have Talmudic values
>>541393995The EU officials don't know what to say that hasn't been handed down to them on a piece of paper from their overlords. We knew this.
>>541393995Plot twist:Those 65% want the war to end by nuking ukraine
>>541393995he probably wants to become nato general secretary or something and washingtons glowniggers signalle dhim that if he is a good boy he will be rewarded with big boy pants
>>541393995he made a nice subtitle for his newest book
>>541399146>stubbkek
>>541393995Toe Stubb is a based resident like all residents who reject Russian imperialism.>>541399146Just need the next edition with critical commentary and exegesis by Dmitry Medvedev.
>>541393995RANGE BAN INDIA
>>541393995Just ignore that alien who is pretending to be our president...he is not even Finn.
>>541393995>65% of the Russian pop is against the warWhy would this alter the course of events in any way?
>>541393995the eu legitimately is going to sacrifice every living male ukranian and they won't be satisfied until then, i've never seen such wonton hate for a group from world leaders like this its so bizarre where are you getting the manpower to keep this farce going? you're already dragging women to the frontlines, i've said it from the very beginning the real plan is to depopulate the world of ukranians then scoop up the property under the feet of the impoverished thats left and can't resist the billion dollar apparatus thats going to bear down on that very lucrative earth under their feet and the ukranians are so blinded by their anger to putin and russians that they will gladly sign away all of it just to keep fighting a little more, its the saddest thing i've seen in a long time, the worst part of it is the ukranian men know it and won't do anything.
>>541393995Why wouldn't Russia just support terrorists to do the same to him?Is he just retard nigger that wants to escalate to nuclear war?
>>541402036Yeah, it's the Russians doing the murdering in your so-called farce. But for some reason all your criticism is directed at the victim and those who help it defend itself from the psychopathic aggressor. Somehow it's the EU that is "sacrificing" Ukrainians by helping them, and the helper "won't be satisfied" until all Ukrainians are dead. It's the EU's fault of course! Russians dindu nuffin as usual. Russians have no agency. Russians just have to mass murder! I'm sure this is a common stance you take in life in general. Just give up your house and family when the invader attacks, right? It's a farce not to give up. To do anything else would be an example of you being blinded by anger. Who do you think you're fooling with this laughable rhetoric? Yourself?
>>541403203a regional power never had a chance of victory but you knew that, under ukranian feet is worth more than keeping that corrupt bribery based economy running the way it was, whats going to come is real estate projects, mining contracts, and big export business, and human trafficking.
>>541402036Not just the hohols. they were just the start appetizer of a five course meal
Didn't it just result in russians hitting them back twice as hard?
>>541402198Russia is carrying out proxy attacks all around Europe already. >>541403331If you cared about Ukraine or Ukrainians, you wouldn't be criticizing Ukraine and its helpers.
>>541403504Making peace is what matters if it doesn’t happen now the Ukrainian people will quite literally be genocided in this proxy war
>>541403504i care about ukranians being able to keep existing you are funding a war you already knew they couldn't win to pad the death statistics its why you keep pushing zelensky away from the possibility of peace the eu doesn't want to directly confront russia so its using ukraine as a proxy for that war, the ukranian men are just a means to an end for you, you're a very sick, very paranoid person.
>being this deluded
>>541403625
>>541403504Good, you carry out proxy attacks via Ukraine.
>>541403504Imagine caring about piggers
>>541393995>StubbThis means "stump" btw.
>>541403627>you're a very sick, very paranoid person.Topkek. You're implicitly defending the enormous evil that Russia is doing on a daily basis by blaming it on everyone else except Russia. If you're looking for sick people, go stand in front of a mirror. >>541403768No, we're helping them fight against an illegal and immoral aggression. That you call Russia's actions good says it all. Thorough moral corruption and depravity goes together with supporting Russia.
>>541404188and they are helping (insert cause here) fight you.
>>541404188to the last ukranian isn't a joke to you is it, yeah the guy who is saying "listen zelensky out their in the distance is corporate parasitism i get it russia is the enemy of your people but right now you have an existential threat that is the eu and washington they are directly funding the war so you are too weak to resist the resource wars coming to your door looking to pay the bill you racked up" yeah im the one who is the enemy of ukraine you're right what was i thinking, now that i've seen the plans for ukraine with my own eyes i have to say resorts will look nice in kyiv.
>>541393995UKRAINE uses TERRORISM!It’s SUPER-EFFECTIVE! RUSSIA was critically hurt! RUSSIA NUKED UKRAINE IN ITS CONFUSION!
>>541393995That gaylord doesn't believe himself the shit that drops from his facial sphincter.It will only make Russia answer the escalation by escalating even more.
>>541393995Medvedev reacted to this, literally calling Stub a retardangry pidor noises means it's working
>>541404188i've suddenly seen the light we should double nigh triple our efforts, a trillion dollar budget for ukraine would be wonderful imagine what their military could do with all that money, the loss-er i mean the great victory will be achieved comrade !
>>541404188> the enormous evilAre you a pathetic moralfag?Grow the fuck up!
>>541393995>Are EU officials disconnected from reality ?They're so invested in this that they have no choice but to lie to themselves and the public. It's their version of two weeks.
>>541399146is he unstable?
>>541393995>Are EU officials disconnected from realityare you? I've never heard anything from a EU official that's even remotely adjacent to reality, they're a class that has exclusively grown up in ivory towers and wouldn't understand you or me even if we were able to directly project our thoughts into their minds.
>>541404926no, but the new world order is and needs balancing
>>541404237How dare we help the target of Russia's deranged aggression defend itself... Yes, it is a perfect equivalence in the very special Russian moral philosophy.>>541404340But for some reason you can never bring yourself to criticize Russia for what it's doing. You allocated all the blame to EU right away. Not a peep about Russia's role in the insanity. That instantly exposed your pretense of objectivity as nothing but a pretense. None of this killing and destruction would take place if Russia had just respected the borders of a sovereign country like it itself had ratified. I understand what you're saying about the difficulty of the situation, but I don't agree with it. You already failed at the most elementary level so anything you build on that is partially a justification of your elementary failure. It doesn't make you the good guy. As for Washington funding the war... if only. The biggest failure in this whole thing is Washington.>>541404688Yes, I am pathetic enough to detect blatant evil and take morality seriously. You're free to wallow in your nihilism and moral relativism, oh grown-up one.
>>541404865They just see Russia as weak. When Ukraine kills civilians with car bombs Putin just shrugs his shoulders and looks at his feet. When you behave like this then escalation is seen as something that is rewarded rather than discouraged.
>>541393995 London's cumsock
>>541405459>How dare we help the target of Finlands deranged aggression defend itselfEnjoy your own moral fagging being used against you.
>>541393995They're very smart, well-connected and make a lot of money out of it. Something blown up in Russia is an easy sell to goyim. He just posted bullshit for goyim. They will do it to the last hohol goy.
>>541405521>They just see Russia as weak.They are>civilians with car bombsNo one gives a shit about Dugina desu, especially not anyone in Russia. Dugin himself is just a useful idiot who published shit that the top brass has read that made it easy to justify being yes-men for them pulling off the stupidest thing they could've done.Primarily, it's faggots that are dying. Can't make an omelette and cook some faggots without breaking some eggs. "muh civilian casualties" is just cope versus the shit that Russia has and is doing.
>>541405932are you enjoying being soon out of all major warehouses?
>>541405969Zelensky is a migger. He openly supports Israel, Trump and his special military operation, he tried to attack Iran to please Trump. It is interesting that you choose to ignore it when it suits.
>>541405969They aren't weak, just pathetic. Standing up for yourself and your people requires a spine. Something that the Ukrainians have but the Russians lack. if a Ukrainian car bombed an America they would get turned into a parking lot by next Monday. That's why no one fucks around with Americans on American soil.
>>541406083end-of-summer recap:>benzin shortages happen only because people panic buy>it’s regular tourist season traffic>those are traffic jams not queues >refineries burning is AI >hohols fill the drones with smoke bombs, they get shot down anyway>it's a lot of smoke but little real damage>they just hit the storage tanks for maximum smoke. Refining continues.>it's only 0.03% of storage>affected refineries are repaired within 48 hours>the refineries are down for regular summer maintenance>russian refineries usually run at 60%>they will just start up idle production lines>refineries will soon be protected by cages>we didn't need those refineries>Wildberries burning is AI >we didn’t need those Wildberries>Wildberries delivers degenerate dildos, it’s good they got bombednow playing:>we don’t need Ozone warehouses
>>541393995>Are EU officials disconnected from reality ?You needed lot of time and many examples to realize.
>>541393995Based.
>>541393995Why are ukraine supporters so delusional that they think ukraine has any say in demands from russia?
>>541405459You're not going to get any reasonable responses. Both the American and Russian governments hate the EU and produce endless propaganda against it.One guy I know now refuses to believe that Russia is even capable of producing propaganda. But he sees everything from the EU as propaganda. He's quick to spout off shit about how the EU is tyrannical and this and that about bureaucrats, but it's not possible to have a discussion about any of it since he's just repeating things he heard on carefully curated list of YouTube celebrities or whatever dumb shit and doesn't actually know how anything is organized. People who post things he agrees with said to hate the EU so he hates it. Simple as.People are happy to be lied to and feel good about being right all the time about everything, including shit that they know next to nothing about and have no intention of learning about.
>>541405459yes of course lets totally ignore nato encroaching on russias border since the end of the cold war a promise they never intended to keep not one inch east remember that? so all the meddling in ukraine even bragging about bribing their judges, or swinging elections using the back channels in ukraine to attack and provoke russia, all of this was carefully orchestrated to this eventuality in ukraine being turned into a tool to be used by the eu and by washington, the only thing you didn't account for would be people like me who can see the mining contracts and blackrock foaming at the mouth to get at ukraine hence the shilling you do here.
>>541406083I got used to your crystal ball predictions and future tense for 4 years on /uhg/, I even suggested you to trade crypto a couple of years ago instead of telling me my future.
>>541395913I'm enjoying your finngolian seething more
>>541406083>>541406172You polelacks are always the craziest bastards of the butthurt belt. Why the fuck do you always fall for the same trick every century. it’s amazing. NATO is setting up the BHB (butthurt belt) to jump into the grinder and you stupid fucks lap it up. TPD is gonna be a term
>>541406197A lot of the west's rulers behavior makes more sense when you realize their entire careers they have been surrounded by women, jews, garchs, and other detestable creatures. Just imagine Trudeau. He has probably never been in a social environment that wasn't full of women. This profoundly affects men.
>>541406288I remember some German fag without any authority over NATO making stupid promises to the Soviet Union so that his country could be reunited.There was never any agreement between Russia and NATO for anyone to not be permitted to join NATO based on how Russia feels about it. Russia is an imperialist power that inflicted communism on their neighbours, including that time they teamed up with Nazi Germany to do it before getting stabbed in the back. It's hardly a surprised that their neighbours don't like them and want to join alliances to protect themselves from Russian aggression. I don't expect Russia to like it, since they see these as non-countries inside their "sphere of interest", but what Russia thinks is not any more important than what any of their neighbours think.
lets talk about nordstream and how it was destroyed by the united states as a frame job to weaponize the european public against russia it failed in the end but the plans became crystal clear, you needed people to hate russia so you could justify having a proxy via ukraine you knew you couldn't handle an actual kinetic conflict so you had to orchestrate a way to be the general in a war you wouldn't fight yourself and here we are.
>>541406537Poles are so mind raped they got turned into a military vassal by foreign countries because Russia might do something to them someday in the future. Truly a brain dead people.
>>541406537>I am so goncerned for Poland, you should just surrender to russia to keep the peace!okay pidor
>>541406649revisionist history as usual
>>541406712past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior
>>541406875what is it with finland and poland vying to be the front porch of world war 3, i genuinely don't get it.
>>541406743Really? I'm sure you can show me the signed agreement between NATO and Russia about who can join NATO then.
>>541406953we're going to pretend now it wasn't a big deal and the quote "not once inch to the east" was touted as a historic move in peace, now we're going to play pretend like that wasn't the case now, and you say its not revisionist history it was monumental at the time what are you fucking talking about.
>>541406875Poland has also been an expansionist power so not the brightest argument to make.
>>541406929>preparing to defend against russia is wanting WW3okay pidor shill
>>541407002Show me the binding treaty or stop whining.
>>541407005>Poland has also been an expansionist power500 years agosoviet tanks still parked here in 1989
>>541403331>a regional power never had a chance of victoryWhat makes you think that? Both Russia and the US have been in an almost century long losing streak since WW2
>>541407043so you're going to destroy the rules based order in favor of resource wars, you're a joke.
>>541406730>>I am so goncerned for Poland, you should just surrender to russia to keep the peace!Yes i shitpost on the eastern toilet fixer clan niggers because it’s funny. I don’t actually want to see you lads being ukrained because actually like the polish a simple. humble.people. that’s sadly on the same path Ukraine is. And the rest of the BHB is on. Don’t think it couldn’t happen because it can.
at least he made a coherent explanation for his statementsomething 99.99% of the time you dont see on this board
>>541407062Not even 50 years ago you invaded your neighbors to put down rebellions so go lie to someone else
>>541407119What is this schizo shit? There is no treaty for you to show me and we both know it lol
>>541393995It's not about making Russia yield. Putin can't yield. He's literally dead if he does. It's about making Russia's heavily depoliticized populace reinvolve themselves in politics. The last time that happened, the edges of an empire crumbled. Maybe this time it can fall entirely.
>>541395568how is that disrespectful towards Russia
>>541407062poleniggers try to expand every moment there is an opportunity to expand lol. You've just been owned and contained for a while - but the reason to seethe at ruskies is that they're just like you, but better.
>>541393995they're underestimating rusgolians' tolerance for sloshing in shitlook at most rusgolian artit seems to always be the same fucking recipe, really:>people are in deep shit>they struggle, more or less hard, more or less openly>it only manages to plunge them deeper in shit either way>like moving sands, but with shit instead>suddenly, they get an epiphany>it's not just around them: alll the world is actually shit, throughout, everywhere, everytime>somehow, they're now at peace, accepting the shit nature of everything>they're now happy in deep shita weird pypo, granted, but you'd actually have more chances to stress them if you repaired their infrastructures than if you destroyed it all, lolsending them more shit is only gonna strengthen their resolve about all the world being shit, desu
>>541396331But enough about pootin
>>541407537>poleniggers try to expand every moment there is an opportunity to expand lolWhen's the last time this happened lol haha
>>541393995LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd-p4Kj5EC4&ra=m
>>541407862All of last century.
>>541393995Previously he called for rebuilding dialogue with Russia, yet now advocates for deep strikes that obviously make negotiations harder. He has no consistent thoughts or strategies, he just says stuff
>>541407862In the two decades before ww2, which was the last time you were allowed independence and some semblance of balls. You haven't had any sort of operational freedom since.
>>541408147>>541408267I'm just asking for a date and an action hehe lol. How hard can it be haha
> Are EU officials disconnected from reality ?Yes.
>>541393995How is he wrong? Russia is achieving nothing in Ukraine. The costs are mounting with nothing to show for it. The people are tried of the war. In many areas, they are actively suffering because of it.
>>541393995Package is fine
>>5414083741968 Invasion of Czechoslovakia hehe lolol how hard was that teehee, Dork.
>>541402036You think this stops with Ukrainians? Europeans are just across the border. You think if Europeans become the industrial supply chain, intelligence headquarters, and de facto politburo of Ukraine who is killing Russian citizens the Russians will just leave them alone? No. The Russians will lob missile barrages at European cities that look at like Israeli-Iranian exchanges.
>>541408516the totally going to happen missle strikes that the euroids larp about any century now, of course more of this mythical russian enemy thats real in your mind.
>>541408487you're underestimating Slavic ability to suffer>>541408492led and orchestrated by ...USSR
>>541408487Opinions of the people dont matter as long as they are joining the russian military and the state apparatus/oligarchs are commited to the war. To them the snails pace to victory is completely acceptable, it makes no difference what an average Igor thinks about it
>>541408374You were told the period, which included the polish-ukrainian war, polish-soviet war, annexation of Zaolzie, etc. And it wasn't 500 years ago.
>>541393995Z bots forced me into being a neolib. It's the only way to go.
>>541408788this is exactly why our grandfathers were correct in making a deal with russia that we wouldn't move eastward because geopolitics and war shouldn't be up to countries as small as yours and we should make you a neutral zone, you are simply too small to be allowed to dictate world events like this i am sorry.
>>541408677Oh woe is Pooland it invaded their neighbors to prop up horrible oppressive regime. Oh poor Poland, so oppressed it keep all the territory the Soviets gave them.Oh poor Poland now it does Americas bidding and will invade you too, Slovak, if you get any more ideas about independence.
>>541393995>Finland's president thinks that Ukraine hitting Russian warehouses will make Russia yield and accept ukraine's demands. Are EU officials disconnected from reality ?they are so fatally and unimaginably retarded there is nothing to compare it with in historythese people truly believe they will coup and balkanize Russia out of sheer "humiliation" of Putin in their own mediaI cant wait untill all this>"muh long range strikes" comes back to rape these idiot euro niggers in the ass
>>541408492Oh right on lololol so you're actually talking about the USSR then not Poland haha
>>541397130>Plot twist:>Those 65% want the war to end by nuking ukrainethis is the part the retard fucking forgets,however...maybe the idea behind these perfidious long range strikes is to make Putin finally realize their faggot behavior will never end and only escalate and he may as well smash ukraine flat, then spank london and brussells for good measure
>>541403203ukraine isnt the victimukraine started the war you faggot niggerthis is the price they pay for language policing some Russians
>>541408705>polish-ukrainian war1918>polish-soviet war1919>annexation of Zaolzie1920>and it wasn't 500 years agoIt also wasn't even 99 years ago ;)Got anything more recent, sweaty?
>>541408920find a better example is what I'm saying Karviná, Spiš, whatever
>>541404188>No, we're helping them fight against an illegal and immoral aggression. That you call Russia's actions good says it all. Thorough moral corruption and depravity goes together with supporting Russia.ukraine was the aggressor and is getting everything it deserves for as long as it chooses to take itthe war can end anytime that ukraine leaves the territory it LOST and didnt want in the first place anyway
>>541409220Ever since then you've been owned and on a leash - but I believe in you little poleniggers, you're not as cucked as you pretend to be.
>>541409323>no, i do not have anything more recent than that to support my argument... sir!I like the sound of that. "Sir."
>>541394676politically correct term is pedari or in english a kike
>>541409398>pedariany relation to pidor?
>>541404688>>541404188>noticed
>>541393995> want this war to endI don't think he knows that a good part of that 65% want it to end with Ukraine's complete annihilation.
>>541409509propably as just spoken language word for paedophile
>>541409201Ugh. Did you follow euromaidan?Unknown snipers caused protest to go violent and it all smelled cia psyop, there were ever major us figures promising ukrainians free stuff.Ukraine was before war poor russian satellite state that had its army integrated to russia and they built 1/3 of russian weaponryRussia lost so much when ukraine decided to become western satellite state and try to fight corruption, one could say they were caught pants down and humiliated. Soft power got ukraine to distance itself from Russia but they couldnt take the loss and vent once again murderous suicide attacks just like past 2000 years. When tsar commands the Russian people take it and enjoy the suffering for the state.Still the ukrainian people should be allowed to decide about the future of their own state, Russia is a country run by murderous mobsters and no sane person or country wants to be vassal state of them
>>541409761yeah, we have that too"gay" is "pédé", in French, which is short for "pédéraste" (self explanatory)which also gave "pédale" ("pedal"), because they sometimes are in the front, sometimes in the rear, and it turns, lolpoolacks call them like that too, I think
>>541409085No, Poland invaded them.
>>541409847yes, pedałysame word for bicycle part and faggot
>>541393995You're right Russians don't care if Ukraine keeps bombing the shit out of their infrastructure and businesses. Russians love paying more for fuel and goods, and being miserable
>>541407357that was the soviets controlling us, pidor shill
>>541409378You were castrated during ww2 lol, that shit takes a little while to grow back. Doesn't change your history of being expansionist dicks every time you are able to be.
>>541401481What is the relationship between swedes and Finns?
>>541401481Since alternative to him was homo-Pekka it's better this way.
>>541409856nah, Polish conscripts forced by NKVD participated
>>541409961>Dolly made me do it And did you give all the land back when the Soviets left or did you keep it all? Faggot Shill.
>>541393995i think we should execute these yuro cuck fuckers.
>>541409963Oh ok so I notice you want to talk about something else. Interesting development lol. Maybe your old position is no longer defensible and you're hoping no one notices if you can just manage to sneak onto the attack again? Haha
>>541393995Russia needs to respond or they will think they can get away with it. They don’t have to be extreme, just give warning and hit the main buildings supplying Ukraine drones. If the EU wants to escalate then start pulling out low yield nukes and remind those dumb fucks they can be wiped from the earth.
>>541410382>When's the last time this happened lol haha>In the two decades before ww2Do your eyes not work? or should i screen shot it for you.
>>541410528Oh right on yeah totally! What happened back in, uh, 1920 is totally EXACTLY what people need to understand about boland today because, uh... look, don't worry about that it's just like IMPORTANT ok?!?!? >:(
>>541410639kek you didn't even read what we replied to and just got triggered. If you ever wonder why westerners dislike you, it's because you remind us of BIPOC seething.
>>541410899Thank you for your service, hero
>>541393995He's completely right. The front lines haven't moved in quiet a while and heavily favor Russia keeping most of Luhansk and Donetsk along with Crimea. Ukraine needs to kill more Russians and increase their economic damage if they want to negotiate favorable terms for themselves. As it stands Ukraine has no bargaining power at the table and will likely lose a lot of land.
>>541395568The Finns are domestic slaves and they like their situation. Freedom frightens them.
>>541410382>poleniggers try to expand every moment there is an opportunity to expand lol. You've just been owned and contained for a while - but the reason to seethe at ruskies is that they're just like you, but better.Nothing has changed about my position.
>>541393995lol taking advice from finland
>>541393995Why don't they hit schools, nurseries, and hospitals then?
>>541411393he will just try to strawman another argument now that his people aren't as oppressed as he thought they were.
>>541394676He's a sionist pig traitor and that's the bottom line. Kindly punch yourself in the face.
>>541411309Terrorism isn't a very compelling argument at the negotiating table because you have no defense against it to begin with. Europe threatens to destroy the Russian economy, but will it be able to protect its own from attacks? No, so it's a weak position. Europe's behavior is that of a basedboy trying to present itself as an alpha male, while having little idea what it means to be one and will simply act aggressively.
>>541411321Your president doesn't treat you any differently, to him jews and kalmyks are just as russian as you are and you accept it like the ''slave'' finns do, when the oligarchs use the resources of Russia but your wages remain the same you accept it, when he commands russians to die for him you accept it
>>541411393Oh wow ok very cool great job. Anyway, can you maybe give me an example of polish expansion a little bit earlier than 1920 lol haha. After all, like, if you think about it for a little bit like... all those people are probably dead, amirite? ;) It's hard for dead people to expand haha
>>541411996States and cultures don't operate on human time scales, 1920 might as well have been yesterday for all of our countries. Poleniggers, rusniggers, krauts, and us - all the same people we were a century ago. Even if some of us had their balls cut off a while back and are still healing up from it.
>>541411996>Earlier than 1920 kek, what a nigger
>>541393995their "advisors" are jewish, anon. same jewish advisors that give this kinda shit advice to trump & friends + zionists in congress.
>>541412116Sorry, this is such a trivially wrong statement presented so earnestly that it's not even fun to mock you for it. Stares and cultures aren't real. They aren't real agents which interact independently in the real world. They are what we call "abstractions" in >100IQ land. Abstractions, in a simple way of putting it, are kind of containers made of "thought-stuff" into which you can place certain qualities and quantities. Then, you have escaped "upwards" an "abstraction level" and now, instead of those raw quantities and qualities, your basic building blocks are the abstractions. Abstractions are great, but they're also dangerous. Some people have difficulty simultaneously holding in their minds the abstract and the real. They get confused. They forget that since things like states and cultures don't actually exist in the real world, they don't really "operate" at all except through human beings belonging to their containers. So, when you say that "states and cultures don't act on human timescales," you're not just comically wrong but categorically so -- it's a category error. 1920, in no way, shape, or form, can be said to have been "yesterday." We are human beings. We don't operate on anything other than human timescales. No other timescale has anything more than academic interest to us. If you believe that a certain people are "all the same people," the onus is on you to substantiate it. What is the mechanism? What qualities are transmitted by that mechanism? How do we differentiate the results of this mechanism versus the results of another? If you're wondering why I've been making fun of you, it's basically because of this. I'm not even Polish. I just fucking detest low-effort identitarian hand-waving. It's unhygienic to me -- like stepping in dogshit. Haha lol etc.
>>541393995>Soft white Euros can't conceive of life without on demand consumer productsMany such cases.
>>541409201>native Russian speaker Zelenskyy was... oppressing Russian speakers!!!You can do better than that, surely, gurpreet?
>>541412624>I'm not a polenigger I just love defending them - and also cultures don't matteryou're not just a polenigger, but a kike too
the sad truth is from the start nobody really wanted this except putin and his clique. People just pretended that they cared about the donbass or whatever but I guarantee if putin never started thecouldn't have cared less. The other sad truth is that by now the majority of people understand it's a mistake, but since the start any sort of contestation is severely punished. Putin is a master of the authoritarian regime, it's the only thing he's good at. And so the only way for the war to end is either for ukraine to lose or for russian to suffer so much from the consequences of this war that they'd rather deal with putin themselves.
>>541412759>You can do better than that, surely, gurpreet?dont even pretend you faggot niggerand one of the biggest gripes the (((soccer hooligan))) jew nigger nazis had was his language
One dude thinks>"Are EU officials disconnected from reality ?"Show flag burger. Only a burger could assume one person as the leader and clap
>>541408491"feels better than the real thing"rofl
>>541412759kikelensky was elected on a rapprochement with russia platfrom promising to protect russian speakers, but after getting humiliated by azov he did a 180. he never acted against poroshensky's 2019 law after taking power, and under him russian disappeared from Ukraine's media and education even in areas where it was the dominant native language of the populace. he also signed agreements about future nato membership and cooperation with the us, issued a decree on retaking crimea by force, etc. like it or not, he's a big reason why this war went hot again.
>>541411543> Europe's behavior is that of a basedboy I'm glad you acknowledge that, fellow oldfag
>>541403203Ukraine is not the victim.
>>541393995What makes you say that, memeflag? Did you notice how utterly insane the pidorussians have gone in the past few weeks?I'm not just talking about the comedic desperate /pol/ spam but the war crimes in Ukraine and attacks on the rest of Europe.Hitting refineries to a point where it's hurting the Putler cartel income and then Wildberries/Ozon warehouses so pidors finally get a small, tiny taste of what they've subjected Ukraine to for four years for one month has demonstrated that actually when SHTF pidors have 0 capacity to endure wartime conditions and are already panicking and crying crocodile tears about how they can't go to sleep without knowing whether they'll wake up. I'm not even making that last bit up for effect either.
>>541413560>attacks on the rest of EuropeGood, this is the only way you will learn to not use proxy attacks against them.
>>541394676But can they speak Start?
>>541413631>Ukraine defending itself and avenging its murdered civilians, kids and women>European proxy attackskys pidor shill, you can hide behind a VPN but you can't disguise your retarded russian lies
>>541414560Europe trapped itself with its own propaganda, heh. For so many years, they fabricated war crimes, then used their fairy tales to justify all of Ukraine's crimes, because they're the victim, and that immediately makes you right about everything. And ultimately, they even turned a blind eye to Ukraine's now-banal terrorism, such as attacks on beaches and buses carrying children, because you can't speak ill of the victim. Plus, Russia did the same thing in European propaganda, so it would be doubly strange for Europe to blame Ukraine.But ultimately, Europe gave Russia carte blanche to bomb anywhere in Ukraine, regardless of anyone, because Europe's opinion has long ceased to matter to Russia, but in the eyes of the rest of the world, this is all a perfectly fair response to European-sponsored Ukrainian terrorism. If your politicians had even a drop of brains, they would keep Ukraine from terrorism, but they don’t have brains and they don’t understand that this will harm Ukraine and Europe much more than Russia.
>>541414876Total gibberish, once more.>And ultimately, they even turned a blind eye to Ukraine's now-banal terrorism, such as attacks on beachesIt wasn't an attack on a beach, it was your failed air defense missile>and buses carrying childrenThat was own your glorious post-Soviet army, Ivan.Meanwhile you pidor pieces of shit did shoot down MH17 and killed 300 civilians and you just go "heh". And that was years before 2022 and you pidors actually making attacks on Ukrainian civilians "now banal", from Bucha to Mariupol to Kherson and the "human safari". Eat shit. And die.
>>541395913>makes them seetheLolNo one has seen them seethe as much as you nafo troons seething in just this one thread
>>541393995Ignore our lizard president he says whatever gets him points in the lizardclub
>>541415943>Meanwhile you pidor pieces of shit did shoot down MH17 and killed 300 civilians and you just go "heh". Of course, after all, a military plane had been shot down at that altitude before, and despite that, Ukrainian air traffic controllers didn't close the airspace and allowed a civilian plane to fly there. It was pure coincidence; they probably pretended during the military negotiations that the new military plane would fly at that time.so they became another victim for your war propaganda of making hohols poor victims.
>>541415943Toothpaste jew is angry.Angry at Russians.Toothpaste jew projects his jew crimes onto Russians.Everybody sees through toothpaste jews lies. Toothpaste jew is going to cry now.>Yes, I am anti semitic.> I'm proud to be an anti-semite.> I am in the majority.> We are all anti-semites.What you gonna do now, toothpaste jew?
>>541414560Nothing but green text gibberish and arguing like a jew
>>541393995Why do you even listen to what Stubb says? He says exactly what is required from him, nothing more, nothing less. Most infamously, he commented that Biden is in good condition AFTER the catastrophic debate with Trump.
>>541393995Isn't this a war crime?Deliberately targeting civilians to demoralize the enemyIt isn't very hard to target bomb infrastructure to kill massive amounts of people Bombing all bridges and ports water treatment centers and power stationsBombing overpasses and trunk power linesThe food will all spoil and they won't be able to bring enough in to feed the peopleWithout bridges or pipelines there will be no fuel for fighting or transporting eitherOf course this guy is for that because he probably wants them all to die on both sides
>>541395568It's a colony not a country Pois pakkoruotsi
>>541418535>Isn't this a war crime?Infra structure is dual use, as such bridges, power stations, oil refineries are legitimate targets.>Civilian warehousesThose aren't Ukraine started with justifying that tiny portion of sold items are military, like tactical vests and ballistic plates. Bombing civilian warehouses with explicit goal to make population change their political views is by definition terrorism. But once again Stubb says exactly what is the most beneficial for him this exact second, long term be damned!
>>541413560nothing has changed lol>>541415943>muh mh17Why did you dumb fucks send a plane over an active war zone?
