It wont be over patches of land, or ideology,This is how it happens>Industrial and retail titans realized banks and insurance are draining trillions in fees from their operations.>The corps didn't ask for permission. They quietly launched their own internal, 0% interest credit networks and zero-overhead insurance pools.>midwits think 0% interest makes no sense. The profit is baked into the physical product sale. The 0% credit is just bait to steal 100% of global market share.>By giving 0% capital straight to suppliers and buyers, these physical juggernauts just cut commercial banks out of global trade entirely.>Legacy bankers realize they are losing control of the physical world. The Fed panic-drafts an emergency order to freeze corporate assets as a "national security threat.">The corps dont back down, and the parallel system spreads rapidly >The strength of the corp-banking model to dominate actual nations depends on the economy and culture of the nation>States like Germany and South Korea will be the first to formally adopt the new model >Finance will utilize states it controls to strike against this system and the states harboring it>US/UK/France govs under control of financial sector engage in low scale kinetic warfare >US fractures between states where corps, with pop support dominate (Texas, Florida)>Flashpoints happen when the state utilizes emergency powers to cease corp assets inside states beholden to the industrial titans (local states deploy national guard to protect corp assets and personnel)
>>541405229cringe
Russia and Muslim countries will take advantage of European civil war and strike amid chaos.
>>541405628its already happening https://www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2026/05/28/shadow-bankings-147-trillion-takeover-of-us-bank-lending/Only a matter of time until the financial sector pushes the state to lash out. Realistically will this result in full blown kinetic warfare ? its possible considering the stakes. Far more money at stake here than land conflicts in places like Ukraine or the mid east.
>>541405229>Industrial and retail titansDo they have like armies or weapons to enforce this or how do you think they will be taken seriously?
>>541405229baased I love that game
>>541406564No, they just manufacture and ship literally everything. Absolutely no power and leverage at all.
>>541406564They control the material levers of the actual economy, they have enough money and power to win over the state apparatus in certain countries (South Korea, Germany) - here they would merge with the actual state Beyond that ? yes they are more than capable of defending themselves via high end private security and paramilitary outfits. Could they withstand an actual military attack, no of course not, but thats not how it would play out
??? Just shoot a missile into the corp headquarters how the fuck is this real
>>541406769it's just some niggers stolen version of gibson and stephenson >>541405229kys
>>541406564Hasn't it already been demonstrated in ukrain private military and mercenaries can hold their own even against the combined might of nato? Corporations can just increasingly militarize their security forces under the right to defend their property and personnel.
>>541405229did you just leak cyberpunk 2078 story?rita best girl, btweither way, cool idea/story. the corps would probably need to bake something similar to interest into the costs of all goods sold, but at least that takes money away from people that do nothing, and gives it to people that make and do things.
>>541405229> germany > the first to adopt anythingNow you just made a fool out of yourself
judging on whats already happening, thel take the whole board. They realized long ago they didnt need the financial sector anymore and resolved to overtake it Financial sector wont just sit back, they will lash out, its only a matter of time. It wont be full blown warfare, at least not in the beginning, itl be regulatory deadlock vs corps halting the economyHeres the thing tho, facing wipe-out (inc the entire insurance racket which is bigger than the military industrial complex re rev, and the entire inflated property market), and remember countries like the US/UK are so connected to finance,...they will lash out I would expect low level kinetic warfare at some point. Thel employ their private military subcontractors to start abducting people ect. Some states are so intimately connected with finance that it could get pretty extreme before either side stands down
nothing will happen
>>541405229I think electrosphere also touches on this birth of the military government corporation. Multinationalist have their own experimental weapons programs. nation-states have crumbled and operate as zombies of their former selves politicians completely controlled by the zaibatsu.
>>541408208so what? 40K rips everything off too its about execution man
>>541408208>Stolen Corporate takeover of nations is a pretty fundamental staple of cyberpunk. OP is wrong though because the same people who own banks own the other sectors too.
>>541405229>The Fed panic-drafts an emergency order to freeze corporate assets as a "national security threat."Why would the Fed panic? Did you not remember when they had near-zero interest rates some years ago? Or when Japan's central bank had a ZIRP for like 2 decades? The Fed is just a tool of specific people and you can use the tool to do different things.
>>541408617German politicians are simps, who bow to their industrialist corp CEOs...who are not simps if its precived that foreign finance is actively attacking german industry, the politicians will ceade to the corporations over anglosphere politicians thel be esp emboldened if the same thing is happening internally in every other country (except Germans are uniquely positioned to adopt such a model, as they despise the financial sector culturally and have near religious reverence for their manufacturing)Your living in a bubble and watching too many michale bay movies if you think German politicians and society will side with anglo-american politicans and financial entities if they start to attack their own industrial base
>>541409228They don't really. Assets under management does not equal ownership
>>541409480I think one area it gets gray is in things like home building and automobiles, where the financing is tied intrinsically to the business model at this point.
>>541405628this.op get a jobpreferably a soul sucking phone based one
>>541405229Anon you should write a script for a Netflix series, seriously
if the financial sector in its current form collapses, along with insurance, the inflated property goes aswel = golden age (do the math, everyone wins, bigly)So i for one welcome our new corporate overlords
>>541408353No, they can't.I love me some Cyberpunk 2077 but nothing about Ukraine or elsewhere is right now spelling anything like the corpo wars.Also, I'm not entirely sure but you may have been thinking of Wagner Group and the Prigozhin drama but you're very much mistaken if you are because Wagner Group was at no point not a complete and total FSB/SVR/state-controlled operation, probably not even when those "final" theatrics took place, which ended in it being "officially" brought under complete state-control, which of course, it already was, and rebranding.
>>541412316low level warfare would be entirely conceivable within the US if the financial sector faces being erased not armies fighting each-other on battlefields. legislative warfare then economic disruption, targeted sabotage of infrastructure, abductions by private mil contractors actual military would not be deployed on US soilwhere it could become more kinetic is in states where the corps merge with the state and make the new model official (anglosphere intel-military would be utilized to attack these countries.....which have armies) think South Korea where this is very likely to happen (notice all the anti SK propaganda on YouTube lately ?)
>>541413353the financial sector is more powerful than ever and grows more so by every passing week thoughcorporations wage war on each other all the time, including everything up to actual kinetic warfare, because that would be very costly in terms of lawyers and moreover market scrutiny (even if some rabid investors these days would undoubtedly enjoy it, basically all investors are averse to uncertainty so overall it would send shares plummeting, I think) and it's not even worth mentioning the recent AI meme company hacks because that's almost as old as the dot com bubble and nothing newthe last bit you're describing is not unlike fascism in the very literal definition of corporations and states becoming one and the same, as in Mussolini Italy and Nazi Germany (where fascism was a minor descriptor, way below the "national socialism" aspects obviously, but still) so yeah then we're basically back to "normal" state-state warfare ie the status quobut I'm not really seeing the connection you're going for between Cyberpunk lore and WW3 though
>>541408208>stolen version of gibson and stephensonI'd agree if I didn't read the source books and play the TTRPG. Concepts were no doubt inspired by a lot of different science fiction but it's very much it's own thing.
US trying to get nukes built in Ukraine is how it started. It's still going on. Hopefully ends soon in Armageddon. I'm so bored.
>>541405229>The corps dont back down, and men with guns and badges immediately seize their shitFTFY
>>541405229As long as I can get implants and go on a murderous rampage, we're good
>>541415263The reason for all the antiSK propaganda, calling SK a hellhole and so on in western media is because of this Angloamerican financial sector/states know that SK is on the brink of ousting western finance and instituting corpbanking model When this happens>The SWIFT Electronic Lockout:>The Intellectual Property Embargo>Security blackmail/threats re mil protectionbut it will fail because SK manufacturing is vital, and what they really fear - contaigen. Once SK does this, Japan very likely will follow, then maybe even Germany (industrial and energy non finance aligned corps in US/UK start making moves and so on)you read it here first
think about it, whats with all the anti South Korean propaganda in western media lately ?its the prelude to exactly what im talking aboutyes South Korea is a neo-feudal corporate dictatorship, and aspects of its society are unhealthy but how many fucked up countries are supported by the US/UK and arnt bashed in the media all the time ?wouldnt surpise me if the CIA tries a colored rev in SK, which wont work. because east asians are not arabsconfucious is the father of these people
