Who is a Jew? If it's not about religion, then Palestinians should be considered more Jewish than Ashkenazi or Ethiopian "Jews", right? They have more genetic affinity to ancient Hebrews. If it is a religion, then why is Israel secular? None of this makes any sense.
>>541407817>why is Israel secularsynagogue of satan
>>541407817>They have more genetic affinity to ancient Hebrewsthey don'tboth of them are canaanites, they have nothing to do with ancient israel all of this is a larp
>>541407817Judaism is a religion not a race.
>>541407877Were canaanites good guys or bad guys?
>>541407817judaism is a religion and a tribe and the tribe can be a tribe without the religion.
>>541407877Even Hebrews were indistinct from Canaanites, Ashkenazi Jews are mostly Neo-Babylonian, Iranian and European in origin with a few Levantine genetic markers in common with Levantine Arabs which Druze and Alawites have much more of.
>>541407995meaning jews can become "athiest jews" when shucking and jiving in and out of the religion. meaning they still are jews because they see themselves as jew by jewish marriage laws even when "athiest". meaning they never become true athiests. and if you pay attention to jewish athiests their athiesm is more about bashing cristianity
>>541407982they worship baalesau was told not to marry with canaanites and he went for itthey are edomitesedom in hebrew means redrothschild in hebrew means shield of edom>>541408058>DNA study: Modern Jews and Arabs retain more than half their ancestry from Bronze Age ‘Canaanites’https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-860458modern kikes and muslims are canaanitesthey worship baal to this daycult of cubes
>>541408058Ashkenazi jews are mostly Italians as per genetic studies
>>541407877According to DNA tests about 20% of Palestinians and Israelis share the DNA with ancient Hebrews. If it is about ethnicity then 80% of the Jews now living in Israel should also leave Israel.
>>541407933Leave it to a pajeet to explaine shit....literally!!
>>541408117Baal just means lord right? Even yhwh is given that title in places.
>>541407933Pajeet truthnuke
>>541408211yes but baal is a demon worshiped in the ancient testament, golden calf, sacrifce of children to himthey did it 6000 years ago and they are still doing it to this day
>>541408138my poojeet coworker thinks that punjabis are just arabs that have a different religion. true or false?
>>541407933Religion comes from race, applies eugenics on said race, which bounces back to altering the religion and thus further altering back to the race over generations. This is how things come to be. It's completely correct to say jews are both their religion and race because they held their faith for so long and turned into the goblins and vampires they are today.
>>541407817I think egyptinas wrote kikes came from north with ships and started niggering and were gingers. But "european" kikes are just larpers either gypsies (poos) or rape babies or later convertees.
>>541408117Muslims aren't a distinctive ethnic group.
>>541408503I think he means Arab Levantine Muslims.
>>541408503doesn't matterthe religion has its root from middle eastern arabs which are canaanitesthey are one and the same two different religion worshiping the same entityyou could be from colorado and be a muslilm it wouldnt change who you are worshiping
>>541408459i think texts from that region said there were homeless encampments full of criminals (similar to today) that they called "habiru" and if you read the jewish side they say they were holy people called hebrews that were enslaved by egyptians (probably arrested for crimes in reality)i think that jews hate police today because their original "slave" story was about them being jailed for crimes that they respun as slavery
>>541408567You imply Allah and Yahweh are one and the same.
>>541408676kikes do not worship Yahweh they worship baalWho is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
>>541407817This discussion can only be solved by violence Bunch of yapping faggots
>>541407817Every day half the threads in /pol/ could be avoided if people here knew what ethnicity means.
>>541408796Well if it's so easy to define then you do it.
>>541408676jews from the bibles are not the modern kikes which call themselves jewsthese people worshiped baal since the beginning, even in the old testamentthey never stoppedthe canaanites from the old testament who were worshiping baal are now calling themselves israelites, they did not change, they are still the same people worshiping baal and moloch and doing children sacrifices
>>541408740>>541408896Consider Israel started with a Pantheon and the Zohar and Talmud codified it.
>then PalestiniansThey've only been around since the 690's with Yarafat. They are just lower/bottom tier caste Arabs. There is no mention of them in any scriptures.
>>541407817Technically yes. The average Palestinian living in that area now has significantly more generic ties to the caananites and phoenicians. The Jewish population has been a lot of European and East African admixture in modern Israel.
>>541408962the talmud is a reaction to the new testamentafter they were losing debates after debates about the old testament and mainly Isaiah's propheciesthey decided that Isaiah was talking about israel as a country and not a man rejecting Christ as the Messiahthey even refuse to read Isaiah 53 in their synagogues and skip from 52 to 54the talmud is a cope book about being completely destroyed but even the pharisees from that period do not exist anymore genetically because i doubt that they were canaanites but i'm not sure
>>541408851“ethnicity" means a group of people connected by things like ancestry, culture, history, and/or language. It's not a synonym for race, nationality or religion. Jews can be an ethnoreligious group, this is not a difficult concept, most retards in this board are just making it difficult for not fucking reason, you could've used google.
>>541409159Jewish identity makes no sense for the same reason civic identity in the West makes no sense. Would you say a child of immigrants brought up in Spain is Spanish?
>>541409135Correct. These are ultimately a people at a loss to their own faith. A fallen people.
>>541407817If it looks and behaves like a rat, what more do you need to know
>>541409241You're comparing nationality with ethnicity, a person can be spanish, jewish, moroccan, catalan, muslim, etc, depending on what aspect of their identity you're describing. This is why your argument is a mess, you're treating ethnicity and nationality as interchangeable, and probably race too if given the chance.
>>541409393I mean yes, ethnicity is genetic. It makes no sense if it's not. You sound like a libtard.
>>541409159Arab should be more of a cultural term than a race. Saying a Palestinian Muslim is racially Arab would be like saying a Catholic indio from Bolivia who speaks Spanish is a Spaniard.
>>541409265Spiteful mutants that live as eternal diaspora seeking nothing but destruction and entropy on all reality to cope with the fact that they were abandoned by their own god and their own faith. So now they make a crude and hollow facsimile of it dressed up in pseudo mysticism and kept mostly obfuscated in order to make sure that the masses do not learn how utterly pathetic it and and by extension they are. It’s like a whole group of just that guy who goes to his high school reunion and just brags about shit and shows off, only none of it is true and he’s just some loser desperate to impress people who never had any respect or even real awareness of him in the first place.
>>541409441The reason i sound like a libtard to you is actually the reason you're conflating all of these terms. A spanish born child of moroccan parents can be spanish by nationality and cultural identity while having moroccan ancestry, none of those facts cancel each other out. You're desperate to conflate every term together cause distinguishing nationality, ethnicity, race, ancestry and religion is too much work for you, then you call anyone who points out the distinction a libtard. I look like a libtard to you because i'm using english better than you basically.
>>541409714The word "ethnicity" didn't exist until 100 years ago. It was created to confuse and obfuscate national identity from race/ethnicity, which until recently were all considered to be synonymous. You're insulting my English, so I have to pull out the big guns here.
>>541409698It would be pitiable if so many weren't harmed in their way.
>>541409861If you don't like what "ethnicity" means it's not my problem, and the word dates back centuries, it just became more popular in the 20th century. You started with "define ethnicity", i gave you an answer, then you moved to "ethnicity is genetic", no it's not, that's race. Now you're moving to schizo shit, get lost nigger.
>>541410044You didn't give me an answer. Ethnicity is a vacuous, subversive term, and your definition is so vague as to be meaningless.
>>541410103>your definitionIt's not my definition, it's THE definition of the word. Like i said, if you don't like it feel free to use language however you like, don't start bitching and moaning when you run into disagreements though.
>>541410191You're the one who brought up the term to begin with. Do you think giving a vague definition of a word is an answer? Who is a Jew? Why don't you answer that question, rather than copy-pasting Wikipedia entries?
>>541410311Yes, i brought it up because i see several threads every day with the "what's a jew" theme, every day. In all of them OP and most of the posters can't give a fuck about differentiating between ethnicity, nationality and race.
>>541410446What's a Jew? Can you answer my question?
>>541410478A jew is a person who belongs to the ""jewish people"", an ethnoreligious group with historical origins in the ancient israelites and a shared history/ancestry/culture/tradition (literally what ethnicity means like i said).It can be religious, cultural, ancestral or some combination of those.
>>541407877This, we're cannanites and Phoenicians >>541408117Also this>>541408146Even askhanazi Jews are 50% canna
>>541410672>A Jew is a person who belongs to the Jewish people
>>541410707>Even askhanazi Jews are 50% cannaMore like 20-30%. You know Ashkenazis aren't the majority of Israel, right?
>>541408211Baal is a canaanite deity, also named moloch ,Baal hammon, Baal haded etc
>>541410712>Attempt number 4 at trying to explain what ethnicity means to a retard.>Quotes first sentence of the message out of context>0 progress
>>54141076550-55% ask Gemini, and yup majority of Israelis are mizrahiapes
>>541410805What qualifies membership in the Jewish people?
>>541410672Jews aren't Israelites
>>541410877>ask GeminilmaoSome studies have found up to 50% but most are closer to 30% in Ashkenazis. They cluster with Sicilians on autosomal genetic tests.
>>541410900You'll find the answer to that in the rest of the message that you haven't quoted.
>>541407817>None of this makes any sense.This. Basically this.
>>541410311Bro youre retarded and sergio here isndestroying u desu
>>541410953>it can be ancestralSo is a Palestinian Arab descended from ancient Judeans Jewish?>culturalSo if you speak Hebrew and read the Torah a lot are you automatically Jewish?
>>541410900Having a shared canaanites ancestry and being inbred as fuck >>541410952It's 50% most askhanazis here are brown and smelly
>>541410979>bro
>>541411005>So is a Palestinian Arab descended from ancient Judeans Jewish?No he descended from Canaanites and Phoenicians , like me
>>541411005No cause you're confusing "having some jewish ancestry/engaging with jewish culture" with "belonging to the jewish ethnoreligious group". A palestinian can have ancient judean ancestry without being jewish, learning hebrew and reading the torah doesn't automatically make someone jewish either. Your gotcha only works if you pretend ethnicity is determined by one thing at a time, it isn't, that's literally the distinction i've been explaining to you for the last five messages.
>>541411370He doesn't have Hebrew ancestry, nobody knows the genome of the Israelites
>>541411370Well Israel doesn't care about your "culture" or "religion" when they grant you citizenship. You can be raised never going to synagogue, never speaking a lick of Hebrew, not socializing with Jews at all, and they'll give you citizenship. So clearly they don't think you need all three to be Jewish.
>>541411481You're talking about nationality, are you slow on purpose?
>>541411525So Israel isn't a Jewish state?
>>541411608It being a jewish state doesn't make its citizenship criteria a definition of jewish ethnicity, you're doing the exact same category error again. I'm gonna roll me a cig, i've had enough, not even being paid for this shit.
>>541411811https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return
>>541407817It's an ethnicity>Ethnicity is a social category of people who share a common cultural background, ancestry, language, or historyPalestinans can't be considered Jewish because they reject Jewish culture and language
>>541411995So is an Ashkenazi Jew raised in the US who's never been to synagogue, never spoken Hebrew, and has parents estranged from their family Jewish?
>>541411891The law of return is a nationality/citizenship law.>>541412084Why don't you practice that exercise with gypsies?
>>541412197>The law of return is a nationality/citizenship lawThat says what, exactly?
>>541412084Depends, does he live by Jewish values? things like honor your father and your mother, do not murder, do not steal etc?if so then he can be considered Jewish yes
>>541412228>That says what, exactly?>>541411811
>>541412533You forgot moloch worshipping
>>541412533>Jewish valueslmao
>>541412990Its naturalization criteria is quite literally a matter of Jewish ethnicity though
Being jewish is like when you drive past a construction site and see the men working their asses off under the sun, day in and day out, only to get home and drink a 12 pack and do it all over again, and you shake your head and say "Thank hashem I wasn't born a goy"
>>541411068Are you arab?
