Why are yuropoors so shitty at war compared to the US?germany has never won a warbongistan needed the US to save them during both world wars and unconditionally surrendered to egyptfrance has surrendered in every war since the french revolution and lost a war to egyptmoortugal unconditionally surrendered to the jeetspoland has never won a warnone of the former soviet or yugo countries have ever won warsgreece hasn't won a war since before rome was foundeditaly has surrendered in every war since rome fell is it an IQ thing? are yuros too dumb, too cowardly or too shitty at fighting? the average American child is a better shot than a yuropoor
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>>541409618You won only in Iraq. Anywhere else?
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>>541409853vpn off. no American gives a shit about a war between 2 browns in a third world country>>541409857nigger we kicked your asses in WWII>>541409937true
>>541410161outlet and timestamp
>>541410195I ain't Russian you subhuman third world VPN troon. yuropoors are third worlders
>>541410623I knew you couldn't post outlet and timestamp.
>>541410195>>541410684Russians dont own guns to fucking retard. your turn, shitskin
>>541409618The US hasn't won a way since WWII, and even then that was mainly Russia
>>541411177Well the Strait of Hormuz has been renamed the Strait of America now.
>>541411177the US single handedly won both world wars. we also won the cold war, desert storm and raped and gaped vietnam, iraq and afganistan >>541411387you surrendered the suez canal to the Egyptians after losing a war
>>541410684>>541410195>>541409853and the nafo vpn tranny flees, every time
>>541409618lol. Burgers were late to both world wars, fought the easiest battle but suffered the most losses (Brits and Canadians had to bail them out on Normandy), and couldn’t even win their own front with dropping nukes on innocent civilians. They’ve lost every major war since, most of which they started.
Biggest war in US history is Civil War, in which USA defeated... itself
>>541409618>ignorant, servile scumHahahahahhahahah
>>541411387Well aren't you ignorant, servile scum?Things will never be like they were before truno started the war against iran at the behest of yarmulke hitler.And not in favor of usrael either.
>>541409618Yeah, this is bait
>>541412673>but suffered the most lossesmore french, germans, bonistanis, russians and austrohungarines each died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined, jeet. the US single handedly won both world wars, jeet>>541412954we also defeated you jeets and won both world wars single handedly >>541413025germans do be subhuman submissive nonpeople
>>541413127nah, you're a jeet>>541413132gain AC
>>541410161You didn't kick any ass, you invaded an already collapsed nation and bombed/raped a bunch of civvies who didn't even want you there.
>>541414351we single handedly won WWII and my only regret is that we didn't use the atom bomb to genocide all the yuropoors
>>541414462You were helping germany before you surrendered your foreskin to your israeli masters who ordered you to turn against them.
>>541414667I wonder what she's up to nowadays. Wish her all the best. Oh who am I kidding, it's America, chances are she got killed by her nigger boyfriend lol.
>>541409618US lost every war it took part in my 30 years on this earth
>>541414667lol no, you retard. we were helping the bongistanis. why are you eastern yuropoors so retarded? communism?>>541415384nah, they don't date niggers>>541415525we won desert storm and iran. we also won in afghanistan and iraq and left because you can't stop a man from fucking goats, nigger
>>541409618It took the entire world to stop Germany. That's not a flex.
>>541409618Have you ever been in a gunfight? Have you ever killed a man?Fucking fat inbred trailer trash freak. How are there still jingoist lunatics in this kike-laden juden slave shithole? You deserve everything that's coming for you. God help you if you've already had children.
>>541418334lol no, we did it by ourselves single handedly >>541418539you are one mad vpn third world brown polak
>>541409618> calling them krauts when he's probably of german descent himself
>>541419449nah, he's not german, he's White
>>541409618>germany has never won a warThey defeated Napoleon III
>>541415525They won Iraq. They sort of won Afghanistan.
>>541414667USA is ZOG>>541415525True.>>541416092America fucking lost. It was destiny too according to the Afghan Papers and CIA and DOD papers on the 2nd Iraq War. 1st Iraq war was over 30 years ago Anon. FinnAnon is right. America is ZOG and lost.
>>541409618.All they know is faggotry and lying.
>>541419757Winning is replacing the Taliban with the Taliban and Saddam, a solid counterbalance to Iran, with a weak partially Kurdish partially Iranian backed militia government. Trillions of dollars and thousands of Americans dead. Hundreds of thousands of brown lives later. Nothing improved MIGGER!"Praise be to Allah" - DJT
>>541419693germany was founded in 1871. no they didn't>>541419783nigger we both know you are a brown subhuman butthurt belter on a proxy
>>541419924vpn brown
>>541409618Finland would fuck u up . Ya fat cunt .
>>541419933>>541419955Can we just admit whenever we lose wars? America did win Desert Storm. I'm not denying that. We definitely did lose Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq 2. Saying we didn't lose we just chose to quit killing them is just a roundabout way of saying we weren't meeting objectives and quit.
>>541420249lol no. finnland would lose a war to mexico>>541420383can you just admit you're some kind of brown subhuman eastern yuropoor shitskin on a vpn?
>>541420455Rommel thought u guys were shit . Good job u killed all those little men in Asia.
>>541420455Anon, I'm 100% White and I'm in the US. I'm just a Anon who's never seen America actually win a war. It'd be cool if we'd go full warcrimes though and make it happen. MacArthur style. Saddam had chemical weapons in the past he used on Kurds that were made using US and European supplied chemical precursors and European machinery. They got to gas Iran. Gassing Iran is definitely an option. The Iraqis with our satellite surveillance in the Iran-Iraq war used it to great effect.
>>541409618Didn’t they make like three characters heebs in that show even though there were 0 kikes in the unit?
>>541419924>Winning is replacing the Taliban with the TalibanUltimately, but while you guys were deployed all provinces were under your control.
>>541420694He thought Fredendall was shit because he was. Then he faced Patton.
>>541420856Yes but not the full story. It kinda sucked because there were FOBs in each province under coalition control. US troops would try to beeline as fast they could on A01 trying get around IEDs and fly between FOBs. There was a radius of control around the FOBs, but deep into the mountains it was difficult to control. In the villages and parts of the ANA there were traitors. So it just made effective control rather difficult.
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>>541409618>Why are yuropoors so shitty at war compared to the US?Your whole post was a very long way of saying;>"My knowledge of history is rubbish, although; I am a product of the American education system after all."lol, retardo
>>541414351>I got my history notes in a cereal boxWrong euroshit. Pick up a book. The USA did a hell of a lot more than send soldiers to kick the Germans out of France.
>>541420767America decisively won Iraq.
>>541420911Ok I admit Patton was good. But saying you saved us from world war 1 when u entered in 1917 is kinda gay.
>>541420694>Rommel thought u guys were shit .rommel lost and died like a bitch>>541420767no you aren't. you're a brown romanian>>541420811sobel was a kike, webster and libwitz or whatever weren't. I think libwitz is the only one they make a kike in the show other than sobel. webster doesn't react to or care about the holocaust shit >>541421165Americans are smarter than yuropoors and ausfaliajeets
>>541421397we single handedly won WWI and WWII because bongs and frogs are dickless, retarded surrender monkeys
>>541421292I mean yeah but Army Chief of Staff General Eric Shinseki said the Senate Armed Service Commitee the US would need several hundred thousand to effectively occupy Iraq. Instead they got like 150k and then was increased to 170k during the surge. Then AI Overview L. Paul Bremer, the head of the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority banned all Baathist jobs after the fall of Saddam. The CIA said these were all terrible ideas. They did these things anyway. They also said it would increase the power the Iranian backed Peshmerga. It did. It ended in sectarian disaster and a weakened Iraqi government that basically is partially Kurdish and partially Iranian Militia backed to this day. So again it's like how the coalition force controlled FOBs in each province of Afghanistan but failed to really translate that into any kind of peaceful settlement. I guess the disagreement stems from the fact that tactical victories over Saddams forces and putting down sectarianism in Iraq and holding FOBs in each Afghan Province didn't secure any strategic or long term victory. It's like how some older Vietnam Vets say we were killing so many VC and NVA in Vietnam, but that we still failed to achieve what we wanted. We won tactically and didn't have a Dien Bien Phu type defeat like the French did, but didn't win either.
>posted OP coming from the jewish occupied land of zogmericakek
>>541421858nigger you have an indian flag
>>541421100>but not the full storyNo shit, that's why I said sort of.
>>541409618>shows a clip of german executions made by a Jew>cannot say the word "ass" in a war movie>is it an IQ thing?/pol/ is a board of shitskins now. So because the brown hordes never put on a uniform to invade white countries, they can be killed or kicked out.The USA does not salute like England because it never lost a war. Now figure out why that is.
>>541409618This is not bait btw. Mutts really are this retarded
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>>541422337>USA does not salute like England because it never lost a war.what?also frogs were shooting the germans in that clip, not kikes>>541422387>>541422656nigger you're entire country is brown and you lost WWII in 6 hours and managed to sunk your own navy by accident
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>>541410161>muh vpnThe only argument federal loyalists can pull when confronted with actual patriotism
>>541422970nigger you hate America because you are a brown foreign slav>>541422957how do you lose a war in 6 hours?how do you kill more of your own men than enemy soldiers?
The point of war isn't "winning" in the modern sense. It is about defense contracts, where shecklebergs 'win'. The defense budget in the US is greater than all of Europoors GDP. Let those sheckles sink in for a moment.
>>541409618WWII was the last war America "won", although the only real winners were Jews. Since then it's been 80 years of failure.
>>541423525desert storm, shitskin
>>541423635Wins for Israel are failures for America. If you weren't a Mestizo golem you'd understand that. Your mother should slapped across the mouth for pushing you out.
>>541423026Nigger hating this israeli occupied government is the most patriotic thing you can do. You won't because you're a loyalist to kikes
>>541423943yeah, you're a brown slav on a VPN alright you dickless subhuman>>541424012there are 32 jews in congress, 29 of them (which includes every kike senator) are demsthere are 6 kike governors, all 6 are demsthe only kike on the scotus is a demeat shit you anti gun open borders troon
>>541409618Jews
>>541424279>yeah, you're a brown slav on a VPN alright you dickless subhuman>"everyone that disagrees with me is either brown, abo or on a vpn, prove me wrong"Imagine going through life as an angry little underage& deluded anon. kekYou real upset lol
>>541410623>Anina online will definitely think I'm coThis is so sad
>>541424452you are indian, most ausfalians are jeets>>541424548yeah you're a vpn nigger>>541424693I don't read spic, your queen is a jew
>>541419391>you are one mad vpn third world brown polakOh am I? You sure?I see you don't want to answer the question.
>>541424279How many jews on the are on the White House staff?
>>541424799>you are indian, most ausfalians are jeetsyou got me op, well played, i'm a dirty jeet and an abo shilling on a vpn from russia.i guess it was the "not capitalizing the first letter of each sentence" thing that was the kicker, right?pure genius, bravo, standing ovation for the op everyone.lelanyway, i have to go clean my donkey. so it's the last reply from me. enjoy your loneliness op, stay salty. XD
>>541424986I'm sure. you post like one of those subhuman slav>>541425040how many kikes were on brandons?>>541425050>, i'm a dirty jeetthanks for admitting it
>>541409618>>541421770France carried WW1 and signed an armistice with the Reich during WW2. Spare us the neocon surrender gimmick.
>>541425266lol no, france was a losing surrender monkey both times because the french are dickless cowards. lost WWI until we rescued themlost WWII and surrenderedlost the suez warlost vietnampossibly one of the worst war fighting races
>>541425192>how many kikes were on brandons?Do you think the jewish issue doesn't go beyond each president?Also the answer is 40%
>>541409618since you apparently are in desperate need for shill post bonuses i will bite on this neocon copewhen you will pay back the military help from french and spanish for even being able to have those independences you lost starting in 1812?
>>541421232>copemeanwhile in our universe>american normandy advance was solely tanked by Bongs in Caen which never let german relief force to break to the bridge headEisenhower out of his spite for european excellence embodied in Bernard Mongomery and demand to be unquestionable president of US after the war sabotaged market garden US attacked NEUTRAL vichy france because god forbid they would have to try to trumpf the seventh armored divisionAnd best i nthe end>despite all of that "saving" you did everything possible to not only start but further the forced dismantling of british empire>despite all of the "saving" you sank eastern europe and even its best ally called czechoslovakia to the communist rule you actually went to war and did false flag for on japankill yourself as every american exceptionalist
>>541428996>balkin brown>retardedwe owed that debt to the french king, we don't pay kings and we didn't owe the french republic a dime and we raped and gaped the spaniardsAlso we won 1812. we literally got every one of our strategic goals other than capturing canada and we ratioed the shit out of the bongs at new orleans killing like 2,000 bongistanis and only losing like 14 Americans>>541429222>european excellenceno such thing. that's why yurop will never put a man in space >you sank eastern europe good, great. I voted for this. stalin fucked up the genocide
>>541429268>balkanlearn geography faggot especially colours>we owed that debt to the french king, we don't pay kings and we didn't owe the french republic a dime and we raped and gaped the spaniardsahistorical cope pay the debt >Also we won 1812. we literally got every one of our strategic goals other than capturing canada and we ratioed the shit out of the bongs at new orleans killing like 2,000 bongistanis and only losing like 14 Americansahistorical cope, economically you got buttfucked by rotschilds lieutenent called british empire which was sole purpose of war>no such thing. that's why yurop will never put a man in space werner von braun, Sergei Korolev, Vasily Mishin, Valentin Glushko or better said whole fucking warsaw space program >good, great. I voted for this. stalin fucked up the genocideand with that you outed yourself as what you are american exceptionalist circumsized faggot for the Rotschilds western subsidiary called Federal reserve
>>541429447> warsaw space programwarsaw pact space programspeaking of that also
>>541409618Germany won plenty of wars before the first and second. the UK i am not so sure but i think they won plenty in Africa.No idea about Moortugal.Pooland won against the Soviets.Soviets won a bunch, not even going to list them.Greeks solod the Italians and the Turks. Italy not so sure but i think they won some in the Balkans.Maybe people are just ignorant.
>>541410161Mutts think the won ww2...Lmao
list of europeans in space trough interkosmos programhttps://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Human_and_Robotic_Exploration/Intercosmos
>>541420856LmaoThe only think under their control was the bases in those provinces
>>541429447>coloursgood morning, saar!>ahistoricalit isn't, that's literally what we did. we also started a war with spain and stole their shit>ahistorical we got the bongs to fuck off, the injuns to fuck off and protected new orleans, the mississippi and the ohio river and were able to expand to the pacific coast, we won. the bongs wanted the ohio river and mississippi and we raped and gaped them in new oreleans and didn't even bury their dead, cope nigger>better said whole fucking warsaw space programyou're right, the russians are the only white yuropoors. we should ally with them and let them rape yurop>and with that you outed yourself as what you aresomeone who hates third world browns>>541429609this guy had to shoot himself because we were going to capture him and feed him his own balls and dick like we did to half the german POWs when we raped and gaped germany
>>541409618Nigger, Canadians and Europeans clown the fuck out of you dumb muttncunts during war games
>>541429721America won the Moon race everything else was just Euros until Germanics gained ascendency and immediately undermined their continental dominance by refusing to work with the Russians. Kind of pathetic really, just hand it over to the Americans because at least I'm not speaking Russian.
>>541419933You are the shitskin in this thread vpn retard.
>>541429642>Germany won plenty of wars before the first and second.they didn't. they formed in like 1870, immediately lost a war to france, then lost WWI then lost WWII>the UK i am not so sure but i think they won plenty in Africa.africa>moortugalthey lost to jeets>pooland wonwhich is why they were russian cock slaves for 250 years?>russiansthe only white yuropoors>greekslost to the turks>shitally>balkansthe balkans are literally lower power level than africans. fucking italy lost a war in the 1930s to spear chucking niggers in africa >>541429660jeet
>>541429721>>541429843>yuros bragging about being brought to space by russians and Americans as cargoyou're no different than those monkeys we brought to space>>541429808>war gamesmeanwhile we raped and gaped you jeets at actual war
>>541429774>good morning, saartell me how does serbian flag look like queer>it isn't, that's literally what we did. we also started a war with spain and stole their shitit is so cope more>we got the bongs to fuck off, the injuns to fuck off and protected new orleans, the mississippi and the ohio river and were able to expand to the pacific coast, we won. the bongs wanted the ohio river and mississippi and we raped and gaped them in new oreleans and didn't even bury their dead, cope niggerfurther cope, economically you got under rotschilds bank of england because they inflated your ass to submission in the second bank of united states>you're right, the russians are the only white yuropoors. we should ally with them and let them rape yuropimaginary nonsense doesnt prove you arent a jewish faggot desperate for attention>this guy had to shoot himself because we were going to capture him and feed him his own balls and dick like we did to half the german POWs when we raped and gaped germanyempty nonsense proving he was right by killing himself but to american escaping the hangman is foregin as he has no culturenext please
>>541429959>First artificial satellite - Euro>First living creature in orbit - Euro>First spacecraft to leave Earth's orbit - Euro>First hard landing on the Moon - Euro>First photos of the Moon's far side - Euro>First human in space - Euro>First Hole in space - EuroThey absolutely destroyed you but at least you landed on the moon first.
>>541429887nope, I'm white, something no german can say >>541430027>tell me how does serbian flag look likegood morning, saar!>it is so cope moreit's literally what we did and why we own guam and purto rico>further cope, economically you got under rotschilds bank of englandAndrew Jackson killed the 2nd bank. just like he killed 2,000 bongs and didn't bury them.meanwhile the bongs paid debts to the bankers for freeing the slaves until 2015>imaginary nonsenseso yuros never put a man in space?admit russians are the smartest, whitest and best yuros>empty nonsense proving he was right by killing himself lol he committed suicide because his army got raped and gaped by us because he's brown and we are white>cultureyou say as you seethe on an American website in the American language on the American internet, brown
>>541429900>they didn't. they formed in like 1870, immediately lost a war to franceThey won against France>lost to the turkskek they destroyed the Turks but you are right they lost them as well. >the balkans are literally lower power level than africans. fucking italy lost a war in the 1930s to spear chucking niggers in africaPretty sure they just gassed them after that and took over their country.
>>541429959>euroes bragging again you jewish degenerateWerner von Braun, Sergei Korolev, Vasily Mishin, Valentin Glushkonasa wouldnt ever manage to do what Vostok did without Brauneven more Konstantin Tsiolkovsky ie the man who even created the idea of space explorationFrederich zander should i continue or do you have now enough for your eligibility for shilling bonuses
>>541430095>yuro*RussianCool, russians are the only White, smart and first world yuropoors. they are the greatest yuropeans both as a nation and genetically>>541430178>They won against Francethat's like winning a race against a downsyndrom retard who has no legs>turksthey were literally occupied by turkey for like 100 years>pretty sure they just gassed themthey no shit had to have the Germans come and save them because they lost a war to fucking niggers throwing spears >>541430186I will admit yuropoors can into space if you admit that the Russians are the only White and first world yuropeans and that rusians are genetically superior to all other yuropoors
>>541430264Losing to Ethiopia was pretty shameful but you of all people should know what niggers with guns are like, little wonder they had to use chemicals against them. >they were literally occupied by turkey for like 100 yearsSo was Romanian, it didn't stop them from shoving spikes up the Turks ass.>that's like winning a race against a downsyndrom retard who has no legsMaybe but France had that retard strength back then >*RussianEuros have massive sense of inferiority towards each other it is why America will dominate their continent for another century at least. Poles would rather bomb their allies in Germany, destroying their pipelines than watch the continent get ahead. You can always count on someone to stab the other in the back.
>>541430174>good morning, saar!projection is not an argument faggot come on show me serbian flag>it's literally what we did and why we own guam and purto ricoif it makes you happy you can continue to cope more but still in the end you still owe the french and spanish while you got buttfucked by rotschild>Andrew Jackson killed the 2nd bank. just like he killed 2,000 bongs and didn't bury them.meanwhile the bongs paid debts to the bankers for freeing the slaves until 2015lol he didnt in 1836 it came backcope more>so yuros never put a man in space?admit russians are the smartest, whitest and best yurosthe shroeninger theory is baffling in american jewified mind apparently the russians which now are european are suddenly not a subject of extermination despite by being the same by your wordsamazing specimen to poke fun of>lol he committed suicide because his army got raped and gaped by us because he's brown and we are whitethanks further proving me right>you say as you seethe on an American website in the American language on the American internet, brownlol chans are from japan, english is an european language from united kingdom and tim berns lee is englishman which made those internets as you know them again stream your suicide
also since the american jew proves dr Goebbels right its tome for those redpills how those youngsters say
reclaim thy foreskin
>>541430500>ethiopians>guns>romanianromanians are balkans niggers, aka lower than actual niggers>france had retard strenghtnah, they were surrender monkeys>polaksthey are jews after all>>541430501>come on show me serbian flaggood morning, saar!I'm not a serb, all balkan niggers as subhumans, worse than niggers, literally jeet tier> you still owe the french and spanishwe don't. we refused to pay them>lol he didnt in 1836 it came backhe was president in 1836, that's when he killed the bank and we didn't have another central bank until the civil war, retard>let me tell you about your countryyou literally live in one of those retarded indian countries in easter yurop, you're a retard with a shitty education and you type like an ESL jeet>the shroeninger theory is baffling in american jewified mind>apparently the russians which now are europeanAre russians yuropoors? I see nafo troons say they aren't. Russians are easly the only humans in yurop>thanks further proving me rightthat we won WWII and you lost?>lol chans are from japan,4chan is American, it was made by America,. it's 4chan.org, an American web address. you have no culture, yurop has no culture, you were dominated by the US, brown
>>541409618Europe dominated the globe until the mid 20th century, USA was able to industrialize faster, and atbgreater scale, than the European powers post WWII
>>541430848>good morning, saar!I'm not a serb, all balkan niggers as subhumans, worse than niggers, literally jeet tiernot an argument come on show me serbian falg i will give you a hint since you are not beating the allegationsthey surely dont have white blue red >we don't. we refused to pay themcope pay up>he was president in 1836, that's when he killed the bank and we didn't have another central bank until the civil war, retardlol cope more https://www.freemason.com/freemason-presidents-blog/ >you literally live in one of those retarded indian countries in easter yurop, you're a retard with a shitty education and you type like an ESL jeetprojection is not an argument>Are russians yuropoors? I see nafo troons say they aren't. Russians are easly the only humans in yuropcongratulations you played yourself so no genocide of europe for you since russians are european then>that we won WWII and you lost?can you show me independent poland on map after the war?remember all started because of danzig and sovreginity of polish stateoh wait i forgot inbred american jew did this to save his ussr pet project so he can get rekt by the communism from behind>4chan is American, it was made by America,. it's 4chan.org, an American web address. you have no culture, yurop has no culture, you were dominated by the US, brownof course american has to cope with ahistoricityChans are from japan English is from present United kingdom and world wide web is english inventioncope and seethensdap was right and only reason someone bothers with you is because of petro dollar
>>541409618Europe was so good at war that it was the region to conquer the world litle bro.Roman martial legacy and all that.
and as a last (you) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec103dunit_highl/page/n25/mode/2up?q=cohenenjoy the death in flames of racial polution
>>541430907all the white yuros died during WWI. more french died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined more bongistanis died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined more nazi died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined more russian died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined more austrohungarians died in WWI than Americans died in every war combined >>541431251nigger you lost a war to actual literal jeets >>541431353nigger you live in a brown country that's never accomplished anything
>>541431147>all balkan niggers as subhumans, worse than niggers, literally jeet tiercorrectdo you think I'm a serb? serbs shove bottles up their asses>pay upmake me, brown>freemason.comyou are brown>projectionnigger your country scores at the bottom of PISA>congratulations you played yourself so no genocide of europe for you since russians are european thenrussians can genocide the other yuropoors>can you show me independent poland on map after the war?lmao poland went back to where they belong, as russian slaves, like they were before WWI>chansm00t, an American, invented 4chan, cope brownoid
>>541425192Eat shit you fucking worthless chickenhawk bitch.You love running your little cocksucking mouth about killing, as long as you're not the one getting shot at huh?You going to 40pbtid+ to the post limit? You better be getting paid for this, because if not you should kys.
>>541432131you sure are one mad brown vpn polak
>>541409618> Lost against rice farmers.USA NUMBAH 1!
>>541432357you lost against birds
>>541414351>bombed/raped a bunch of civvies who didn't even want you there.In his book the Filthy 13 McNeise wrote that US soldiers went berzerk and were raping and killing women and the MPs had to step in to regain control.
>>541409618That was a really awkward scene in an otherwise good show.
>>541434137Why? he was right
