>November 2021>CIA director William Burns flies to Moscow>warns Putin not to invade Ukraine>Putin invades anyway a few months later>August 2026>John Ratcliffe flies to Moscowwell, autocomplete this for me.
>>541430931arent these cunts in nato
>>541431180they are indeed
>>541430931This time he checkmated Putin by telling him to never stop helping Iran and definitely attack Poland and the Baltics for sure in two weeks time.
Rent free
>Putin gets checkmated in 7 moves>doesn't even seethe, just copes
>>541432345At least we're not speaking Finish.
From the russian national imageboard, /po/litics board>The CIA Director flew to Moscow today due to a possible new mobilization in Russia, The Wall Street Journal reports.According to the WSJ, American intelligence has recorded early signs of Russia's preparations for a possible military mobilization, as well as plans to test NATO's resolve and its readiness for further escalation.Against this backdrop, CIA Director John Ratcliffe arrived in Moscow and may have met with Putin to directly warn the Russian leadership to abandon these plans.Former Deputy Director of National Intelligence Beth Sanner described the possible meaning of the message as follows: "Washington knows what Moscow is planning and is warning them not to do it.Just imagine, Stepashka, your country doesn't give a damn about you. But the Western master cares about you and doesn't want you to die for Malaya Tokmachka."
thanksgiving/christmaswinter is coming
>>541432476The western master cares first and foremost about covering his own exposed ass, just as he always has. I won't argue against my own country not giving a fuck, that much is true. But do not frame western self-interest as actual care, it's a transparent and fairly retarded lie.
>>541433065i didnt write any of that retard, im just quoting what a russian poster wrote on ur imageboard
Poland's next is non-negotiable.
>>541430931Are you implying USA coordinates the invasions with Russia?
>>541430931>The three jewish provinces, they are not even united.We have our army on one of those russian provinces while moodorcco invades our African provinces with their niggers, criminals and covert agents.Please Putin destroy the UE Faggotry niggerdom desUnion.
>>541433158Ah, okay, my bad. The poster must've been one zesty liberashka then.
>>541430931I think the Russian mobilization is probably more related to Ukraine instead. They'll need more troops to keep the entire country occupied for a while. But it would be fun to watch Russia smack around the three chihuahuas.
>>541430931>>541430931Sure, I'll help.They are doing mobilisation in autumn, after the elections. They intend to scaremonger NATO into closing all its borders and shutter the outgoing traffic so military age Russians can't get out. At the same time they scaremonger the Russian population that conflict with NATO is imminent and use that as an excuse to pull the mass mobka leverThey then use those balooned numbers to push for mass operation in winter to take Kramatorsk and seal Dobass chapter for good.Then try and deescalate with the west and push for peace in Ukraine, which the west will be more than happy to oblige to. Trump hets the much coveted "I brought peace to Ukraine" medalAfter that, nobody knows. Make up as you go, I guess.
No worries, chihuahas and Bolanda are NATO, nothing bad ever happens to NATO/West because global elites need unproductive resource depletors/eaters/farters waving rainbow flags and living from fiat printers, global wlites need Pollocks chilling out at Morskie Oko and eating pizza. Thats why absolutely nothing ever happens (maybe except toxic "vaccinations" from timeto time). If drones/missiles began to violate airspace of these super-protected countries and burning their warehouses for lolz, NATO would roll the very next day to the nuked Moscow xD
>>541432476>>541433158Explain us, you subhuman from Bolanda, why Polish authorities scare everyday with Russia attacking NATO in weeks/months? Are they Russian agents too? I predicted long time ago that you will not live good, and you will be dragged into this war because thats what global elites want. No matter how much you fart and deny reality, this war will NOT avoid/bypass you, Polish imbecile. Bolanda will share fate of Ukraine and i am so sure of it that i even bet money on this scenario xD
>>541433669>>541434003>xD xD xDMakes you look like this.
>>541433448>They then use those balooned numbers to push for mass operation in winterThat's going to be brutal. Conscripts barely out of basic training operating in winter? A lot of them are gonna be lost to exposure because they decided to cross through a small stream and didn't keep warm afterwards.Does the Russian army still use portyanki or have they finally switched to socks?
>>541434003nie zesraj się atlanta, ty jebany cwelu xD
>>541434191Every single thing i predict materializes. I predicted defeat of the US in Iran war on /pol/ literally the first day it happened, i predicted exact day of invasion too. I posted few market predictions on /pol/ that became true (oil, Intel share price spike etc). I predicted ammo/interceptor depletion caused by the Iran war. I predicted creation of new security order in the ME after Iran proved that USrael is unable to defend its partners/bases (in the process). I predicted manpower crisis in the UkrArmy that would eventually lead to its disintegration and tumults escalating due to forced mobilisation (in the making). I predicted that Russia would retaliate against deep drone strikes on its territory with full port blockade and destruction of Ukrainian logistics (in the making). Finally, i predicted that mysterious drone/missile strikes on "Eastern NATO flank" would gradually escalate in intensivity and evdntually destroy key infrastructure (in the process). I never ever lie. I am a prophet. How many times my predictions came true on this board since 2025 when i decided to join /pol/? Like a dozen times. Everytime my prediction comes true, i open a thread with a screenshot of my prediction from 4plebs and i give link to the archive xD
>>541430931they not goin to invade butthurt belt If they goin to do second front, it would probably be something really weak like moldova or armenia
>>541434544Nobody talks about invasion, dude. Just embracing chihuahas with the escalating drone warfare (aerial war) xD
>>541431608this
>losing in ukraine>you know what lets open up a second front>dathis is stupid but its completely expected from pidors they really are that stupid
>>541433669I predict poland alone can destroy russia and this time it really will be over in 3 days - with polish tanks in moscow
>>541430931Why would they meet with the CIA before invading other countries? Do they plan these things together?
>>541433065First Russian in the threadstarts talking about assesyep certified homofag
>>541434869It is rational. I described the most probable scenario atm. Drone warfare is very liquid and blurred. Russians and Ukrainians can conveniently accuse each other for strikes. It already kinda happened many times - drones/missiles constantly violate NATO airspace, they even killed some people in Poland/Romania. It only gradually escalates, thats all. This trajectory wont be changed.
ATLANTA PEDALSKI CWELU WYKURWIAJDOJADE CIE KURWO W TYM DZIERŻONIOWIE xD
CIA delivered an ultimatum to putin not to test NATO resolve. Which means US will go to war over baltics, like how Britain went to war over Poland in WW2...
>>541435114What can USrael realistically do if some mysterious drones destroy LNG terminal in Lithuania? Cmon, it is silly to expect anything more than verbal rant. Ukraine already hits Russian refineries with drones xD
>>541435184NATO has lots of options to respond to russia. By conventional forces, NATO outnumbers russia 10 to 1. NATO could destroy the russian air base from which the drone attack was launched. It could declare a no-fly zone over Ukraine. It could completely sink the russian baltic sea fleet. There are dozens more options like this which NATO hasn't done yet because putin wasn't stupid enough to attack NATO until now....Needless to say, the CIA went to Moscow to tell them that there WILL be a response.
>>541435114>the picI've already seen like 4-5 versions of why he was visiting.
>>541435302What is NATO? Will Turkey go to war vs Russia over destroyed LNG terminal in Lithuania risking its own destruction in nuclear war? xD
>>541435350It's difficult for people to accept that we just don't get to know. People prefer to have some kind of narrative to go on.
>>541435184I doubt NATO would respond without the Americans. >>541435302Not true outside of Turkey, the Baltic states, and Poland. Procurement in Germany and the UK in particular is shambolic. A conventional war would primarily be fought by Poland.
>CIA director William Burns flies to MoscowSo why didn't the "almighty" kyaccyap arrest this faggot for his agency causing so much damage to the puccian "state"?
>>541435482Why didn't the almighty USA arrest Putin when he met with Trump in Alaska?
>>541435541Because they're all in cohoots with one another?Makes sense don't it?
>>541435436>. A conventional war would primarily be fought by Poland.If _anything_ happened in Baltics USrael/NATO would push Poland to help there. Americans will do everything possible to mix thdmselves out of it. They will say that Europe refused to help in Iran, so it must deal with the mess on its own now. NATO 3.0 xD
>>541435403>What is NATO?Here's a map of NATO. So far russia has been fighting, and losing to Ukraine. The geniuses running russia might be clever enough to attack NATO because they are doing so well against Ukraine.
>>541435573>Because they're all in cohoots with one another?>Makes sense don't it?or maybe you're retarded and don't know how relationship between countries workseverything is a disney movie to you
>>541430931lol those chihuahuas are gone
>>541433065Do you monkeys know how to make one centense without talking about asses or gay sex?
>>541435573I often forget how many schizos I share this board with.
>>541435638War in Ukraine is a proxy war between Russia and the West, dude. Even golden Marco Rubio admitted this once in front of cameras. xD
>>541435482Because the present-day sort of CIAniggers is what you want to fight. You wang all the fat useless cats to stay in power as long as you can. Today's CIA is not the sort that maintained a massive police state in Iran. The new director put out an oped begging for competent people in the sciences to help them keep track of the advances so they don't lose to China.
>>541435657Oh I see, you're one of those stupid "intellectual" subhuman mofos.NM I replied to you at all.
>>541435638>Here's a map of NATOI think you really need to show this map to NATO and EU officials. They seem to have forgotten that Ukraine is not part of NATO, yet they invested more into Ukraine than they did into any individual NATO member in all of NATO's history
>>541435436>A conventional war woulda conventional war would be pic relatedi also have the webm titled "russian desert storm" if you want
>>541435709>Oh I see, you're one of those stupid "intellectual" subhuman mofos.There's nothing "intellectual" about the fact that state officials have international immunity, and attempting to arrest an official of a foreign state is the same as declaring war against that state.It's been this way for thousands of years since ancient diplomacy.
>>541432345VVGH...
>>541435672Even if russia manages to occupy baltics, it will be a short occupation. Like saddam husseins occupation of Kuwait, or Japans occupation of Indonesia. There is not a scenario where russia successfully defeats NATO. Even with Chinese involvement.
>>541435697Funny, if Chinks catch a CIA bitch they'll skin him alive, but puccians have no problem with them.
>>541430931He went to ask Putin for a ceasefire while Ukraine holds elections. Putin previously said without elections he can't negotiate a peace. It's a stalling tactic by the west because US can't produce enough interceptor missiles for Iran war and Ukraine, plus US and European bonds are exploding so can't afford to fund Ukraine right now.
>>541435746Russian army in its current state (adapted to new gen drone warfare) would easily destroy any NATO army. To make things even funnier, Ukraine has similar capabilities now xD
>>541435746>a conventional war would be pic relatedbefore 2020 you meanHow can you fight pic related in a world where tanks and planes cannot operate without having a 1-hour lifespan on the battlefield?Truth of the matter is that currently nobody knows how to fight conventional wars anymore, as old doctrines have become obsolete. This is also why USA can't do shit against Iran.
>>541435791oh, great you mentioned the russian army!here is its combined arms mastery, btw:
>>541435854>look this cartoon i made
>>541435824how can you operate fpv drones with everything bombed to bits within a 50 mile radius?
>>541435871the russian failure in ukraine isn't a cartoon. there's no secret plan to russia's war anymore, putin only had a plan A betting that ukraine doesn't actually exist and would fold in 3 days or 2 more weeks and when that didn't happen, shit hit the fan basically and he can no longer stop because if ends the war, he'll be ended too. he's in a shitty catch 22 of his own retarded making
>>541431180Yes but Russia's gamble is proving that the article 5 is baloney, the US and UK are not going to start the draft to defend yokel villages in Latvia.
>>541435884because the one who's supposed to do the bombing also has a short lifespan
>>541435915sounds like a description of Zelensky
>>541435921i wonder why the CIA just warned dr pavel that if they try anything, anything, kaliningrad gets bombed, then, retard
>>541435960>i wonder why the CIA just warned dr pavel that if they try anything, anything, kaliningrad gets bombed, then, retardthing that totally happened, just believe bro
>>541430931This time he went to tell him where the drone factories are for nato. Usa is going to help russia blow up nato defenses. Global war is coming. It is going to be us and russia vs china and the eu.
>>541435933short lifespan of an F-35 pilot? Iran hasn't even managed to destroy a single F-35 in like 20,000 sorties all over Iran thus far, keep coping you retarded noviop rusnigger
>>541435921Of course not, the entire ponzi scheme of GAYTO relies on the local yokels to do the fighting FOR them, so these western bitches don't have to.
>>541435884Bombed with what? USrael wont be risking losing tens of its jets and bombers to vast Russian AA/AD net, besides it doesnt even have enough stand off munition to do anything against Iran, not to mention Russia. It also produces x10 less glide bombs than Russia due to deindustrialisation and caps on explosives. Replenishing of ammo USrael wasted on Iran would take at least 3-4 years now
>>541435960As long as Drumpf is in power and getting raped by Iran, the US isn't going to do shit in Europe.
>>541435977Trump already warned Putin that he would bomb Moscow in the past and even bragged about doing so a few years ago
>>541436004shut up you tarded memeflag shill
>>541435988>short lifespan of an F-35 pilot? Iran hasn't even managed to destroy a single F-35 in like 20,000 sorties all over Iran thus far, keep coping you retarded noviop rusniggerand how did this help USA exactly?
>>541435746>a war>shows some bombing of a country which would have 0 military
>>541434003i have disability certificate no army for me
>>541436003>losing tens of its jets and bombers to vast Russian AA/AD netxDhere's the face of the subhuman who just wrote that drivel:he used to suck off America and BBCs btw. i bet he still enjoys BBC just with a more sour face
>>541435713Combined together, NATO has 4 million active personnel (easily 50-100 million if mobilized). 20,000 jets (russia has 2,000) 3,000 naval vessels (russia has 300). So far, Ukraine has been using soviet era stockpiles from eastern european countries and its domestic missiles and drones to wreck havoc to russia.Any NATO attack on Russia would be a blitzkrieg campaign. Moscow would fall in 2 weeks not factoring in the nooks.
>>541436012>Trump already warned Putin that he would bomb Moscow in the past and even bragged about doing so a few years agoTrump also said that Strait of Hormuz is officially US territory, and warned Denmark the would bomb EU if they don't give them Greenland
>>541436062Russia, its government and its military is Iraq-tier. Im not counting the rusty nukes
>>541436003i got my disability certificate so no draft and army for me
>>541436090Sorry, I lost the context and thought it was about Iran thing currently going. Which the US cannot do.
>>541436088Trump is also fully blockading and strangling Iran economically since July, so essentially he's always more right than not.And it's best to both listen to what he says and see what he does instead of being a retarded memeflaggot shill spouting talking points like Kamala>“And why don’t you tell the 800,000 Polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch?”
>>541430931go poison your own wells
>>541436072>Combined together, NATO has 4 million active personnel (easily 50-100 million if mobilized). 20,000 jets (russia has 2,000) 3,000 naval vessels (russia has 300)NATO is not a country, so I don't understand why are you combinging their armies.NATO has no authority or jurisdiction over the use of force. Individual countries are in charge of those armies, and they decide how to use them, and if to use them, relative to their own individual national security needs.>So far, Ukraine has been using soviet era stockpiles from eastern european countries and its domestic missiles and drones to wreck havoc to russia.Soviet era stockpiles ended during the first 2 years of war. EU is running out of shit it can send to Ukraine, and Zelensky is begging every single day for just a squeeze of air defense missiles.>Any NATO attack on Russia would be a blitzkrieg campaign.Any NATO attack on Russia would end in destroying the European continent.>Moscow would fall in 2 weeks not factoring in the nooks.Russia fought more wars in its history than any other country, with only France having a slightly bigger digit on that scale.You think you're cooler than Hitler?
>>541436158you will go to war and figh while i play games at home because i have disability certificate and no army for me, i dont need to hide
>>541436158>Trump is also fully blockading and strangling Iran economically since JulyThat's funny because that's exactly the same thing Russia has been doing to Ukraine since July
>>541436199war today is about boom booms from the heavens above, i won't have to go anywhere cuz the fight would be over before it ever unraveled. of course it will never even get to this because the moment putin goes overboard the Trumpniks at SVR, FSB etc. metaphorically speaking throw pooptin out the window, and then a new regime is instituted which would promise democratization in exchange for lifting sanctions, possibly without even having to pay reparations, such cases
>>541430931Can't wait to destroy russia.
>>541436196>Russia fought more wars in its history than any other countryHere are some of their glorious defeats. In the last century, russia lost wars to:>Japan>Finland>Afghanistan>Chechen rebels>Syrian rebelsRussia didn't defeat Hitler by the way. United States did.
>>541436070You are a retard, dude. Reapers took the heaviest attrition: at least 45 lost, 1/3 active fleet because they conducted persistent ISR/strikes over Iranian territory and were called the campaigns MVP. Other platforms (F-35s, F-15s, bombers) flew sorties but relied heavily on stand-off munitions for protection. Mutts were scared _even_ of Iranian AD that is incomparably weaker than Russian one. Once F-35 flew too deep and even got hit by Product 358. Are you one of these retards beliving that F-35 is "invisible"? Like Predators cloak? xD
>>5414309310% chance Russia is actually planning a full out invasion of NATO countries while it's in deep shit in Ukriane. High damaging escalation like couple of drone "losing" their position and "randomly" hitting high value targets in NATO countries is possible tho. Or even the worst escalation of some green men in Narva in Estonia or else where there is Russian minority randomly showing up with full combat gear and self declaring themselves to be part of mother Russia, and Russia of course acting on it to "protect" the "opressed" Russian minority. Putin knows this war is going anywhere at this point, but he cannot end it by himself cuz it will make it look like he lost and will lose power, so now with orange retarf using everything up on Iran Russia will try to pressure the west with these escalatory actions into finishing the war by forcing Ukriane to comply, Putin want to make it so the west is coming to him asking for peace so he appears strong and as the one that is "merciful" by agreeing.
>>541436265but you will be drafted for traning anyway and will have to serve not me, and it will happen this year
>>541436293>muh reapersfucking faggot lol.again, 0 F-35s destroyed. over 20,000 sorties all over Iraneat shit NIGGER-loving NIGGER atlanta
>>541436295you will be drafted for training this autumn and not me because i have disability certificate, good luck getting pushed around on the field for couple months hahahahaha>>541436158>>541436199>>541436293>>541436295
>>541435921>Yes but Russia's gamble is proving that the article 5 is baloney, the US and UK are not going to start the draft to defend yokel villages in Latvia.
>>541436265>war today is about boom booms from the heavens aboveYou are aware that Russia does 270 bombing sorties a day and not with a low energy stand-off munition like bankrupt/disarmed USrael but with 0.5-3 ton precise glide bombs? What USrael did against Iran is like less than 1% of what Russia does to bussified Ukroids xD
>>541436364a draft isn't even needed to wreck russia to pieces from the heavens above, lmaothe russian yokels won't ever even know what even hit 'em. like Ali Khamenei or Ali Larijani :3
>>541436313>>541436349we've been hearing this exact shit since 2022 you russian retard
>>541436392yeah inaccurate 1-3 km CEP dumb bombs that fall on civilian commieblock neighborhoods, great success
>killing baltic niggersno you fucking russkies,first kill all hohols in jewkraina,then all dirty hohols in Poland and THEN you can take these little baltic shiti cant live anymore with hohols on my streets get it???
>>541436265War today is a trench warfare with drones.
>>541436406It is incredible that i live with such retards in one country. Cretin has no freaking idea about military, watched too many Hollywood movies and talks bullshit xD
>>541433669>No worries, chihuahas and Bolanda are NATO, nothing bad ever happens to NATO/West because global elites need unproductive resource depletors/eaters/farters waving rainbow flags and living from fiat printers, global wlites need Pollocks chilling out at Morskie Oko and eating pizza. Thats why absolutely nothing ever happens (maybe except toxic "vaccinations" from timeto time). If drones/missiles began to violate airspace of these super-protected countries and burning their warehouses for lolz, NATO would roll the very next day to the nuked Moscow xD
>>541436428idiot tusk says that all men will be trained retard, i got back pain and disability so not me, i will be playing GTA VI and you will be running around field with gun retard
>>541436287Technically you're wrong.>Syrian rebelsTechnically not correct.>Chechen rebels>FinlandThose weren't defeats. Despite the big losses.
>>541436445>inaccurate 1-3 km CEPRussian 2026 UMPK/UMPB kits convert FAB bombs into precise guided glide weapons. Upgraded variants with larger wings and jet boosters claim 200 km range and 5-10 m (sometimes claimed 1 m) CEP via GNSS/INS (Kometa modules) for better jamming resistance. They outrange standard JDAM (28 km) and JDAM-ER (70 km) and exceed all current European options like AASM Hammer, and enable heavier warheads at lower cost in mass use. Newer Western powered concepts exist on paper but are not yet as widely fielded in this class. I can show you thousands footages like these monsters fall on Ukrainian heads with ideal precision.
>>541436492he didnt say that tho you retarded russian apehe talked about volountary military training for everyone who wants to participate
>>541436592hahah yeah sure retard, enjoy your wezwanie this autmun faggot,
>>541430931Why was it the CIA director visiting? shouldn't it be the Russian ambassador or something? are the CIA in bed with Russia?
>>541436492tusk can go deploy himself where ever the fuck he wants.He's not my "leader" nor will I take commands from the fucker.
>>541436519How am I wrong? Are you implying that assad won the war? Russian air and naval bases in Syria are set to close in December, so you literally won nothing since 2011, and furthermore lost your bases which had been there since 1950s.
>>541436682thats not how it works baby, you will come to the draft office or you will be brought there by police retard
>>541432476>may have met with Putin to directly warn the Russian leadership to abandon these plans. World is run by absolute retards.
>>541436624yea you kept saying it 4 years ago russian retardyou even used to post documents of wezwanie and now you arent even trying
>>541436720LolYou know what I did with my conscription letter when I hit 18 during PRL times?Wiped my ass on it and left it at tje post office.I assure you I'll do the same again.THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. Don't trybto fear monger me, fuckboi.
>>541436474ale ty za to pedalski cwelu z dzierżoniowa atlanto ty kurwo pojęcie o doktrynie wojennej NATO masz xDw twoim przypadku gruby śmieciu nawet nie można powiedzieć że wiesz tyle co zjesz xD
>>541436287here you go moron
>>541436689I wrote technically not correct. Everything was going good before our government withdraw most of its powers in 2021. And it's not like a war, just some support.It made the US and its allies withdraw from Syria in 2018 btw.>How am I wrong? The other two things were clearly wrong.
>>541436813>ale ty za to pedalski cwelu z dzierżoniowa atlanto ty kurwo pojęcie o doktrynie wojennej NATO masz xD>w twoim przypadku gruby śmieciu nawet nie można powiedzieć że wiesz tyle co zjesz xD
>>541436287while you're completely retarded and don't know history all that much, and can learn about it here: >>541436835I will also add:Seems like you don't understand how fragile is the 21st century infrastructure that supports everyday life for the average peasant. For all the shrieking and crying from shills about how "ruthless" Russia is by striking civilian targets in Ukraine, all of them immediately go silent them moment you ask them provide civilian casualty numbers from 5 years of war in Ukraine, and compare them to anything like Baghdad.Kyiv: ~425 civilian deathsBaghdad: ~45,500 civilian deathsPutin continues to treat Ukraine like a porcelain vase, and proceeds with a purely Army vs. Army war, while ensuring as many civilians remain safe as possible. Which was never a priority for US or NATO in any of their wars.Imagine NATO attacks Russia, and Russia says:Fuck it, say goodbye to EU's water, electricity, food, internet, GPS, telephone comms, etc.This doesn't even mention the fact that Russia has the ability to destroy western satellites, that are essential for everyday businesses and life in today's world.
>>541430931>>CIA director William Burns flies to MoscowToday: Russian state began preparation for NATO nuclear strike on 1.1.2027. The Strategic Forces are put on highest level since their foundation. Since 2018 Russians are reactivating and deconserving all their nuclear bunkers for population and the state. New bunkers are build around ALL Russia. New research facilities for prevention and fighting the nuclear radiation and fallout are created. over 6000 different new patents connected with Radioactivity and survival are noted in Russia. Russians are starting evacuation of own diplomat personnel from future nuclear strike sites. Ambassador to UK is already back home. The staff from France, Italy, Spain and Poland are following. Jews ordered own goys to make South America into new Israel.
>>541436838>It made the US and its allies withdraw from Syria in 2018 btw.lolAmerica fucking rekt ur forces in 2017 in direct combat without a single loss of their own (except for ammo)Assad got Mossad'd by 2024ezpz gg
>>541436813a nie to nie churka kinte tylko typ z tym samym kolorem id i ]grymasem
>>541436838>technically hitler didnt lose ww2 because everything was good until stalingrad
>>541435184You are aware that NATO has to respond else the whole union is worthless? Up to nuclear holocaust everything is on the table.Yes, even for "unimportant" baltics. No matter how russian shills try to normalize that attacking them is "le ok", they aren't real.
My current theory for fun only based on Zero evidence is as follows:CIA works for eu and nato, headz treasonous... they think Trump and Military have back back channels with Russia and China and are desperate to find out what's going on.They make a plan to distract that part of Military and Trump and fly the director to Russia to as quickly as possible fish for info and hope to fine Anything at all if Russians believe he was sent there by Trump. Military and Trump know, they leak plane flight. Order US flag down from US Moscow Embassy to signal they bypassed in treason and failed. Mission, falioure.Probably not even close, I just thought it would be a funny concpiricy, fuck it.I mean it, not even close, just fun.
>>541436881The only reason russia is "not striking" civilians in Ukraine is because putin knows Ukraine can retaliate in the same way and obliterate russian civilian centers. In Syria, Russia bombed and gassed tens of thousands of civilians without mercy. Dropping 1 ton bombs right into marketplaces full of civilians.
>>541436961As I've said it wasn't really a war. And it helped to destroy terrorists. So that's why I wrote "technically not correct".You're deprived of logic.
>>541437022>You are aware that NATO has to respond else the whole union is worthless?A rule of thumb in international relations is this:No union is worth more than the countries that are part of it.Treaties, unions, alliances, confederations exist only for as long as their existence is beneficial to its memebers/signatories.But if you genuinely think any country in NATO is willing to commit suicide just so NATO would survive - you need to go back to politics school.
>>541436934It was Wagner mercenaries, not regular Russian forces. In the 2018 Battle of Khasham (Syria), 500 pro-Assad fighters including Wagner PMC attacked a US/SDF position. Russia _denied_ any official troops. The force had no effective air defenses whatsoever. US responded with airpower and HIMARS rockets. It was like shooting to ducks. HIMARS and their mixed Western/Ukrainian operator teams are such ducks for the RusArmy today xD
>>541437108why do you keep peddling your wishful thinking, you russian tard? it's blatant, it doesn't work on anyone, time to get a real job.
>>541437092But it was a war. It was called the Syrian civil war, and russia was the biggest supporter of the government, and it was the only country who deployed troops on a large scale. Hundreds of russians died. And, how were the terrorists "destroyed"? Former Al Qaida leader and the new president literally met putin in Moscow.
>>541437074>The only reason russia is "not striking" civilians in Ukraine is because putin knows Ukraine can retaliate in the same way and obliterate russian civilian centerswith what exactly? Ukraine's main weapon are long-range drones, which are the equivalent of a cesna airplane. But they come with explosives on board.Ukraine doesn't have any weapon that could cause large area-of-effect damage in Russia.But Russia has plenty, enough to cause millions of civilian casualties in just a few days of strikes.
>>541437144>It was like shooting to ducks.yes, welcome to America vs Russiabtw it's shooting ducks. you can't even in2 English after like 15 years of attention whoring on Krautchan and here. pathetic & displays your level of "intelligence" wellit was like shooting ducks with the javelins in 2022 too
>>541437108You are pulling them out of your ass. USA not responding over baltics will make them lose face all over the world. It means they can't even hold to agreement and protect a tiny country. Meaning that Taiwan, Japan and other countries will know that any agreements with USA are worthless. It will lead to every country going nuclear. This is the last thing USA wants. They MUST respond, but your third worlder russian cum filled brain can't grasp such delicacy of geopolitics. You think Russia is le smartest one and can outsmart everyone and nobody can outsmart them and they can just find a loophole in NATO and nothing gonna happen.
>>541437179lol. so the gloves are still on, eh? are they velvet or rubber gloves?
>>541437022>You are aware that NATO has to respond else the whole union is worthless?You understand that NATO can respond in millions different ways, for example by supplying helmets to attacked member? xD
>>541437238xD xD xDMr. "shooting to ducks"herp BBC-lover atlanta from Dzierżoniów, derp
>>541437235>lol. so the gloves are still on, eh? are they velvet or rubber gloves?Kyiv: ~425 civilian deathsBaghdad: ~45,500 civilian deaths
>>541437179Ukrainian agents operate with impunity inside russia, assassinating generals and "military bloggers" all the time. They could simply do suicide or truck bombings if Russia crosses their red line. It would be like the chechens terror campaign, but ten times worst. Ukraine can also easily develop a dirty bomb using the plutonium from its 3 nuclear power plants, if russia decides to uses chemical or nuclear weapons.
his visage btwhis nickname from Krautchan is Atlanta because he used to throat America (along with BBCs, which he still throats) the way he throats rusniggers nowhe had a change of heart after one of his fat relatives dropped like a fly during COVID and he blamed it on le vax, he spiralled off the deep end sinceBTW atlanto kurwo wiem że to czytasz>1. dojade cie w tym dzierżoniowie wieprzu świnio opasła xD>2. on KC everyone was shaking their heads in disbelief recently when i updated everyone on your current mental state. they all said it's sad how far you've fallen and also very cringe but kinda par for the course
>>541437238that was what germans did for ukraine that wasnt nato member back when they were still blocking support from britain from flying over their airspace
>>541437238This is not what NATO is made for, retard. If a defense union would mean that you will get some helmets you don't have a defensive union. But I am allowing you to try and attack any NATO country. Just be aware of consequences. Somehow putin is too pussy to do that yet huh?
>>541437201Ty jestes gościu najwiekszym idiotą w tej nitce, moze poza tym "churka retard" ułomem-osikańcem, ale to już jest przypadek kliniczny. Ukropolin to nie jest jakoś szczegolnie poważne państwo, delikatnie mówiąc, ale po jaki chuj jeszcze bardziej tę flagę ośmieszać na obrazkowym forum pełnym obcokrajowców? Nie wstyd ci? xD
>>541437283>Ukrainian agents operate with impunity inside russia, assassinating generals and "military bloggers" all the time. They could simply do suicide or truck bombings if Russia crosses their red line. It would be like the chechens terror campaign, but ten times worst.and that would harm like.... 0.1% of Russia's population at best?>Ukraine can also easily develop a dirty bomb using the plutonium from its 3 nuclear power plants, if russia decides to uses chemical or nuclear weapons.Okay now we're already in Disney Movies land again. You know Russia might at some point just decide to destroy all those nuclear plants?
>>541437382ośmieszasz to sam siebie codziennie od 15 lat, gruba spedalona kurwo xD
>>541437396>we will nuke ukraine>surely europe or us wont nuke us backYou're retarded. Either no one uses nukes, or everyone does.
>>541437374nuking america will help global warming
>>541437374Drone/missile airspace intrusions take place more and more often and absolutely nothing happens. My bet is that NATO will stop existing this way and turns into regional alliances instead.
>>541437217>You are pulling them out of your ass. USA not responding over baltics will make them lose face all over the world.Politics do not operate the rules of a woman's sorority club, where virtue signalling and reputation/status decides the winner.In politics, especially in war, the only thing that matters is cost/benefit calculus. If it will be beneficial for US, France, Germany or someone else to start WW3 just to protect Latvia, then they will do so. But the math for now points against such equations. Why would any country in Europe voluntarily invite harm and destruction onto itself, if it is by no means being harmed by Latvia getting bitchslapped?Read Article 5 of NATO, in its entirety. And you will understand why USA lawyers made a distinction between "security guarantees" and "security assurances" in the Budapest Memorandum.
>>541437441Nukes are fake and gay, homre. You gotta have some real low IQ digitz to not come to this conclusion during this timeline.
>>541436592>russian apezydopolaczku, you keep seething?
>>541437529nukes are real and omnisexual>>541437491if NAFO does not act in the baltics then it's over
>>541437576>if NAFO does not act in the baltics then it's overSmth would be done, but Bolanda would take most of the burden. Surely not Spain xD
>>541437382keep seething churka you are just a local clown
>>541430931More than likely it was to use tax payer money to cum inside underage male prostitutes than whatever bullshit reason the media reported
>>541437441>You're retarded. Either no one uses nukes, or everyone does.lmao NAFO room-temprature IQ detectedI never cease to be proven right, that 99% of NATO shills never even finished highschool.
>>541430931All I know that Britain says that she doesn't fear Russian red lines, doesn't fear Russian nuke threats but she fears to fight in Ukraine and she fears to fight in Iran.
>>541437647>churkaholy cope, you zydopolaczkowy podczlowiek!!!mark my words, we will tortured you very bloodthirstily to DEATH for delusional anti-Russians sentiments
>>541437617it is already being done churka kinte thats why you are still stuck in donbabwe dying en masse another year in the row while larping how we are about to join year after yearmindless lunatic
>>541437441and in addition to this: >>541437441why did you even mention nukes?Russia has the ability to litter all of Kyiv with cluster munitions, there's no need for WMDs.How many Russian missiles fall on Kyiv region per month, vs. how many Ukrainian missiles fall on Moscow region per month.For the first question: it's close to hundreds.For the second question: it's zero.
>>541437701nie zesraj sie ruski śmieciu xD
>>541433065can you stop for once waging war on your neighbors and pretending you were forced by mind manipulationjust once!
>>541433396Cool it with the antibaltism
>>541437719>Russia has the abilitynopeif it could, it wouldsimple as
>>541430931Why would Putin attack NATO? He can't even bring Ukraine to its knees after 4 years of war, why would he start a war with 2 (potentially 3 if Trump feels like it) nuclear powers?
>>541437744>nope>if it could, it would>simple asRussia can't replace Iskander warheads with cluster munition warheads?What are you smoking?
>>541437217>USA not responding over baltics will make them lose face all over the worldThe USrael already "lost face" in Iran and nothing happens, Americans lost trade and tech war with China too. Prestige becomes completely irrelevant during the systemic war and the great reset. Only naked power matters xD
>>541431180They shouldn't be. They were part of the Russian empire for centuries.
Russia has to test a nuke on a ukie landscape, it's the only way this ends. Though tbf exactly what happens after that nobody knows really.
>>541433448>UNGGGHHHHH I'M MOOOOOOOBILIZING, FUUUUCK I'M GONNA MOOOBILIZE
>>541437819>The USrael already "lost face" in Iran and nothing happens, Americans lost trade and tech war with China too. Prestige becomes completely irrelevant during the systemic war and the great reset. Only naked power matters xD
>>541437843Hi Dennis.
>>541430931again stupid low iq bait ) Elon go back on x kiddo
>>541437867Poland will perish, polaczku, you filthy disgusting ZYD!!!
>>541430931Maybe you should ask your colleagues or ask for ai slop, which you truly trust.
>>541430931he flied to moscow to beg to do or not to do something with pompous faceall such meetings are useless, but putin is also boomer, so he was very happy to meet same boomer and talk about boomer bullshitsomething like that
>>541437907nie zesraj sie ruska kurwo xD
>>541433396>the entire country occupied for a whileThey haven't even cross the Dnieper after 4 years. What are you smoking?
>>541437977he meant country of donbabwe
>>541434191he's a full-time paid poster, and ecks dee is his calling cardbasically legally distinct avatar fagging
>>541437807cuz they have sooo many missilesshame they're all produced just 2 weeks before they hit now
>>541431180the Baltics are just NATO's speed bumps, the real frontline will be in Poland
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>>541437876How do you even fuck up so much that you end up that small. that's just sad. You will never have a historical destiny. You will always just be another trash state in the hand of jews (either western or soviet jews). Sad.
>>541433448>They then use those balooned numbers to push for mass operation in winter to take Kramatorsk and seal Dobass chapter for good.Assuming they take the fortress belt, the Russian leadership's too retarded to realize that's a good time to end the war. and that's still assuming that more men = more gains.
>>541438066We never been in hands of western jews, retard, only eastern :) mind your own bussiness.
>>541438219Is the Kremlin still influential over there or have you completely cut them off?
A russian plane just flew over my house.
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>>541438087NAFO will refuse to surrender as usual even after all their armies and fortresses will be takenthis warwill last 30 years and will spread on other countries also, after that war europe will become american colony and russia will increase its living spaceUSA will be able to reindustrialize in cost of europe, its the only market where their goods can be competitive
I like it when people talk about us. Makes me feel like we're important. Very rare.
>>541438307we are simultaneously an irrelevant backwater that nobody wants and also an existential threat to pidorstan, poised to invade at any second with our 3 million nazi zombie army hidden in HATO bunkers
>>541437977>cross the DnieperOutside of potentially Odessa/Nikolaev these are not the regions they're fighting over.Also four years ago the working age Ukrainian male in Ukraine wasn't a threatened species.
>>541438374How will you avoid the draft when Russia chimps out again?
>>541434003Calm down, jude. You're oven bound anyway.
>>541438434>>541438374i got disability certificate for my back pain so no army for me idiots! go fight for me, i would also fight but uhh my back pain, uhh they will not take me to army, instead i will get high on opioids and play games>>541438402>>541438374
>>541438297>this war will last 30 yearsIf there is one thing that is certain it is that all the anti-Russians want other people to do the fighting for them.There are not enough Ukrainian men in physical existence within Kiev's grasp to delay the war for many more years.If you want a 30 years war you would have to dupe Poland into attacking Kaliningrad and other things like that so a new pool of kidnapped slave soldiers can be established.
>>541438534>>541438434I GOT DISABILITY CERTIFICATE NO DRAFT FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL BE HIGH ON OPIOIDS 24/7 AND YOU VILL FIGHT FOR ME AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY>>541434003
>>541430931>well, autocomplete this for me.Sure, russia is keeping supporting iran and usa sees that they cannot beat iran despite it so they looking for other solutions
Speculations, conspiracies, wishful thinking, fantasies, theories, dreams all pointless. At the end if the day the only two things certain for tomorrow are the sunrise and ziggers exploding into meat chunks.
>>541430931Why do they need to travel? Can't they use one of those chubbad lubavitch secure phone network?
>>541438534yes, i did not tell it will be "ukraine", ukraine is almost done, they will shrink to the size of bulgarians i think there is enough men to fight for 2 years in ukraine, but they are already talking about mobiliation of women, reminded me one movie and memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TBI7Rrk8F0poland, romania and so on will be the next in line to die, but before attacking plants in europe russia needs to create own starlink and increase production of ballistic missilesand create gold/silver based currency to settle trade and accumulate wealth, otherwise they will not be able to have productive economy during long war
>>541435012Irrevelant gay post
>>541438696>>541438506disability certificate doesnt defend you from russians bombing everything into oblivion retardfact they are stuck in donbabwe 5th year in the row while their economy is collapsing is our main protection
>>541435012always KEK
>>541437356Bolanda pole xD is Atlanta???I still remember the good old Warsaw(or was it krakow?) = Chicago threads.
>>541430931I bet it’s just Patel selling Win 11 due to Win 10 security updates ending soon.
more likely related to tankers and sanctions after we come for the chinks, russia already agreed to the major part which is not arming Iran with anything cutting edge. Satellite sharing was probably the chinks. USA holds all the cards btw, Russia has enough internal issues to look for reprieve, Xi hasnt exactly been favoring Putin in deals
>>541433669>nothing bad ever happens to NATO/Westunless bad is done by elites ruling them
>>541430931It is probably nothing for us but the Russian and Ukrainian are going to get fucked No ceasefire and they are going to mobilized
>>541437760You think he actually wanted to win the warNo he just wanted to kill Russian depopulation
>>541437283Terrorism isn't a serious threat. Israel sponsored terrorists in Gaza precisely because they pose no threat. They might kill a few people, but that only gives free rein to those they threaten. Europe chose this path precisely because no one takes them seriously, and they're trying to prove otherwise, but they lack the resources, so they went the Gaza route.
>>541443282Russia doesn't need to mobilize against Ukraine. The only real reason for this is if Russia is seriously planning to bomb Europe, which would require increasing its military strength to enter the Baltics.
>>541432345>becomes a minority in his own country
>>541443649Terrorism on a grand scale is effectively civil war.
>>541430931>cia starts war in Iran for jews>fails horribly>does "muh nooks" in impotent rage>china gets even bigger
>>541443919In this case, Europe lost all hope of any military victory, which it had initially bet on in 2022, and was already fantasizing about European tanks rolling into Crimea, but in the end, they were stopped by bushes.Ultimately, they chose a purely terrorist path and completely devoted themselves to drone production. But they're trying to threaten something they themselves have no defense against, and they're simply hoping no one will touch them. If they do, a rusty US aircraft carrier will immediately arrive, and everyone will capitulate.
>>541431180NATO promised they wouldn't take one step east after Warsaw Pact dissolved. They lied and therefore their NATO status is illegitimate. Russia is correct to liberate the Baltic states from NATO expansion.
>>541431180The when Russia threatens about invading some nato nation is usually "nato isn't gonna just go to war over x!>>541435954>No U!Russia really isn't sending it's best minds to shill lol>>541436003Russian AA cants even handle slow moving drones and completely failed during that presidential kidnapping lol>>541444381Never a formal agreement but nice try.Russians lied that they had no intent to invade right up till they did.
>>541443715Have you guys read the room of course they would do something so stupid and suicidal What you think they want you to survive they absolutely give zero fucks about you So yeah Putin definitely would do something stupid like that it is not in his interest to you alive
>>541444492>Never a formal agreement but nice try.So the word of mouth of a NATOtard means total shit? Good to know.
>>541444381>>541445754Holy shit, why are you so butthurt? Being angry won't keep you from getting mobilized.
>>541443987+10 social credits to the 1pbtid for the offtopic shilling
>>541444381>NATO promised they wouldn't take one step east after Warsaw Pact dissolvedWhat was the name of this? Where was this formal agreement signed? I tend to forget.
>>541447289>+10 social credits to the- AAAAAAAAACK
>>541447503>another 1pbtid memeflagHello there Zhang.
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>>541430931Looks like a chicken, Russia is bout to grab that kfc
>>541430931that would be kino, they should invade those smoll countries
>>541447342Guess what faggot, a MEMORANDUM is not a formal agreenent either.>but but my Budapest refrigerator memo!
