It seems like more people are adopting a soft form of anti-natalism. They are largely indifferent to having kids. 'Strong' or 'hard' anti-natalism is more of a philosophical claim about the nature of reality and suffering, and it tends to sound autistic and alienate a lot of people. Soft anti-natalism is usually not a philosophical position at all; it's more of a growing trend which is expressed through falling birth rates. Strong anti-natalism tends to make people angry and elicit strong reactions, while soft anti-natalism is rarely even discussed, since it's not something that soft anti-natalists think about very often. It's just something they do in practice, day by day. Strong anti-natalists often make affirmative claims about the nature of existence (ie, non-existence is preferable to bringing new lives into the world). Soft anti-natalists are often positive about existence, but have no motivation to continue the chain of births through themselves. It is simply not important to them. They often enjoy their own lives, but feel no impulse to confer existence upon potential future beings. What is causing this?
>>541436853>What is causing this?Jewish deception
>>541436853I am an antinatalist but after taking various drugs I am very afraid this place never ends.
>>541436853>What is causing this?Women are INSUFFERABLE.
That being I could spare time for. :)I luvvv it, I melt, right now, butter.
>>541436853Does anyone else see that cat and want to pet it?
Nuns love creation but don't want to have children They run orphanages
>>541436853Look man, you cannot post a cat that adorable and then expect people to have some sort of position on politics. You have to plan this shit ahead of time so the pic illicit rage and confusion in its victims.
>>541437236I do.
>>541437236Yup
>>541437311It's meant to depict the concept of natalism.
People see how horrible people are and decide we don't need them. Plus we have AI to make our shoes and grow our food now. Also what is the point of having children? They're automatically property of the state. At least in the old days you could turn them into slaves or prostitutes. And if they were bad or would rebel you could just kill them and bury them on the back yard. People talk about how hard our ancestors had it but they had much more freedom than we do. Say excuse me into the palantir microphone for farting goyshit.
>>541436853Who cares? Dressing up the same question for ANOTHER thread where no one can give an actual answer because this is a place of losers. You don't want jewish society. You don't want to do anything to change it. But yeah let's keep talking about why no one is supplying bodies to a system that only takes. You don't really care any further than being afraid you'll lose something.
>>541437127This. I want a wife and kids. But shit, women are insane. Not to mention that jobs don't pay enough. But again, that just fucks with women's minds:The system propels women upward, rewarding them with undeserved positions and pay (jew daycare). This inflates their sense of self worth. They seek a mate who is better than them (makes more and has higher status), but he doesn't exist. The modern world has completely destroyed women.
>>541436853There is no such thing as antinatalism; this is a self deception of lazy hedonists, who are inevitably falling to pessimism and nihilism, facilitated in part by demonic companies like Google.-see Hegesias
>>541437622Pretty much. I have money and three homes fully paid for, been single for a decade. I think I'll die alone. Women are simply insane as you say.
At 30 years old, I understand that giving matter needs and wants is just a net negative action. Even the overwhelming, irrational biological instincts to procreate and the naturally selected positive opinion of life, particularly human life, are failing. It's supposed to be more obvious than ever that it is never in the interest of the unborn to be born.It hasn't been said enough: life is suffering. You don't have to be a hedonist or a pessimist or an antinatalist or a buddhist to acknowledge this. But only antinatalists, which I think are an evolved form of utilitarians, take this seriously and want to do something about it.>inb4 just kill yourselfbeing born is being dealt a bad hand but it doesn't justify killing yourself. In fact, you can use this time to prevent more suffering, even though it would be better if there was no need for you to do that>inb4 but think of the puppydogs and rainbowssee picrel>inb4 you wouldn't think that if you didn't live in a shithole countryeven the ultrarich are in many ways displeased with their lives. They just have more avenues to distract themselves from the horror that it isThere is no greater moral obligation than to prevent suffering and thus prevent life in the universe.
We call ourselves a dog’s “master”—but who ever dared to call himself the “master” of a cat? We own a dog—he is with us as a slave and inferior because we wish him to be. But we entertain a cat—he adorns our hearth as a guest, fellow-lodger, and equal because he wishes to be there.
>>541436853Kitty!
>>541439325 your argument is so flawed. If life is suffering and you choose to live why do you take that choice from others its like you cant even think jajajajaIf suffering isnt the criterion you have destroyed your own position.
>>541436853Stagnant wages and high property values.
>>541439325you are right but even if every single human stopped making babies today it wouldnt matter.you see, you cannot experience non existence, only existence meaning there will always me a "me" (You) existing.so even if everyone stopped having babies and we all died out, the universe would just plop you in a timeline where people exist like today.
>>541439376Right, a cat is fine too.
>>541439421>and you choose to live whythe inb4 didn't register huh? Well let's fix your lack of reading comprehension by stating it even more clearly: the other day I was at a bar where the son of the owner works as a waiter. He told me he got his partner knocked up. We talked thoroughly about abortion and I managed to convince him to get it done, and did it so well apparently that he convinced his wife as well. I effectively prevented one life from spawning. A person who might have reproduced and generated one or two more through procreating themselves and their children and so on and so on. A branch was cut. The exponential curve of suffering is now less steep because of my actions. As I have previously stated, figuring some retard like yourself would refrain from speaking your retarded ideas because I anticipated them: once one is born, damage has been done. But you can use the time here to prevent more suffering, that of others. Of course, one rational individual may conclude: if there was no one else, then it would make sense to kill oneself. But there's nothing special about me or you - there are billions of people who carry this metaphysical gun on them and it is everyone's duty to disarm them. All suffering must be contained, prevented.
>can barely afford current lifestyle>"You should have 2.5.kids now, all you have to do is cut all spending that isn't beans and ramen for 20 years"Hard pass.
>>541436853I could live 1 million lives and I'd want children every time.
>>541439325based. Fuck anyone who disagrees with this
>>541439685You dont reject suffering but you will take the choice away from others jajaja hypocrite. You dont even believe your own lies lmao even. You just make endless claims that you cant substantiate. You dont know what damage has been done or what is left to come. Endless copium for a pussy to afraid to eat buckshot. You are merely a coward. You dont offer reas9ns at all, merely lies you tell yourself and you avtually believe them jajajaja
>>541439497That's where efilism comes in, and it's what I'm philosophically exploring right now.Perhaps we can use technology to create machines that scour the universe for life and cuts the roots of evil everywhere. Then all suffering will be prevented everywhere, in all possible futures. This is what a loving God would do - unmake creation itself as it is obviously a mistake. This is what is moral. This is the meaning of life for me. >inb4 you are being redditeven a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>541436853i really dont care that much if i have kids because the human experience on earth is absolutely miserable and the majority of people arent happy.your children are also the property of the government just like you are, and can be taken away from you at worst and manipulated and propagandized to hate you.also their mother might decide she hates the fact that something needs more attention and protecting than she does and she might decide to kill them, or spend the rest of her lfie undermining them.until things change, fuck having kids. i havent been happy since i was about 10 years old.
>>541439820>jajaja>taking the choice from othersyou are at best misinterpreting what I wrote and at worst arguing in bad faith. There's no "taking the choice from others". In simpler terms, for you to understand: the country you migrated to lets you have access to guns provided you know how to use them. You need a license to operate a car. You agree to this, as it is logical that it would be harmful to let anyone have a gun or drive a car. And yet there is no "parent license", even though all traffic accidents involve a driver.
>>541436853If you have kids, you'll have to send them to school with niggers.
>>541436853>What is causing this?people can't afford their groceries anymore fucking retard. Main reason they're not making kids. Also why reproduce when your kid can get stabed or raped by a random shitskin that the judge will set free after 2 weeks of jail
>>541436853>What is causing this?Mental illness epidemic / behavioral sink / the fucking jews
>>541436853helicopter parenting preference + economic depression = no childrenPeople today want to raise kids "right" because they themselves had helicopter parents. They can't imagine raising a kid in a suboptimal circumstance so the economic depression they're experiencing leads them to not procreate. Meanwhile people who don't care about raising a child (i.e. blacks) don't let economic depression stop their procreation.
>>541436853>but have no motivation to continue the chainhey that's mewas hard againast having kids myself becuase I saw them as a threat to my freedom I would have been willing to compromise on that if I met a great woman and she insistedbut that didn't happen so no kids and it's okay am old now so it won't change thanks for reading my blog
>>541440531cool blog. Would read again. Jokes aside, congrats on being honest with yourself. Many people disregard the cost altogether.
>>541439325>instincts to procreatethe instinct is usually just to fuck the procreation happens on its own (gotcha!)then other instincts usually prevents babby killing and so the world turns
>>541437127Yes
>>541437236Me three
>>541440633dude lived to 83 in the 10th-11th centuriesquite an achie
>>541436853>What is causing this?Even if you take out the usual factors of muh money, muh freedom and all that, why would anyone want to trap another person in this hellscape?
