Sergey Lavrov, foreign minister of Russian Federation, announced recently that Russia wont agree to any ceasefire without full removal of nazi regime that illegally took power in Ukraine in 2014. The goal is full denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine and the war will continue up to achieving these goals. https://files.catbox.moe/oewtzq.mp4Can NAFObots explain to me how its possible for "losing" Russia to reject any ceasefire while "winning" Ukraine presents new ceasfire proposals literally every single day lately and even unleashes terrorist strikes vs unprotected civilian infrastructure supposedly to force Russia to ceasefire? xD
>>541438503Exactly how many nazis have they denazified in that regime? Seems its only the peasants that die. And that's their real agenda
>>541438503>illegally took powerIn democratic countries we call that elections.
Why are Russians so bad at PR. They’re worse than the Israelis at this point. “Wahhh Ukrainians are literally Nazis” GOOD
>>541438503How can they "remove" a Nazi regime that never took power in the first place?
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>>541438503Nobody is winning OP. Anybody telling you otherwise is a retard.
>>541438503Same reason no one wanted to give up in WWI without total win since so many resources and humans were already spend
>>541438582>>541438647>>541438662Thats only rhetorics. The essence is that Russia wants the war to continue. Ukraine - not really (maybe except of those who make money on it).
>>541438503reminder op wasted almost a decade of its shit life posting racebait on int and pol
>>541438732Will add that Russia has lost more geopolitically from this than Ukraine has. Not that Ukraine had anywhere to go but up in that department.
>>541438746Wanting it to continue, and not wanting to concede are different things. Russian leadership doesn't want to look weak, and with neither side willing to accept concessions as it is Russia would look weak with ANY deal since they don't have the leverage for the demands they wish to make.
>>541438732I told you since day one. You are all a binch of retarded faggots.
>>541438701why does chug have some of the most pathetic posters on 4chan4 years of losing does things to your mental health but still
>>541438793Russia has the biggest leverage in form of the war. They destroy Ukrainian economy, depopulate Ukraine and take land thx to war. Thats the only leverage.
>>541438503To the last Russian
>>541438793>Russian leadership Chabbat Lubavitch>Ukraine leadreshipRotschilds
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>>541438757Has Russia literally won ANYTHING from this? People can point to the maps all they want, but until there is a ceasefire with agreed upon boundaries with no war actively happening in the region there is effectively no way to say they actually own it yet. They haven’t gained shit, and it’s been 4 fucking years
>>541438830They've already done that though. What now? Start killing more civilians? Open up the atomic pandora's box? Clearly Ukraine isn't afraid enough of what they've seen to want to concede.
>>541438875You're fucking retarded. They killed the 5 generals opposed to zionism.
>>541438877Ports blockade, destruction of transport infrastructure, destruction of economy, deepening huge manpower crisis by killing more Ukrainian soldiers - thats the proper path imo
>>541438875Doesn't matter. It's been about not looking weak for the past 2 years. Not like the elites care about a bunch of poor faggots from outside of the two cities that matter. Them dying in a ditch to a drone is an acceptable price.
>>541438503both sides should demand for dejewifying europe before peace
>>541438951And what would be the alternative? Returning to the pre-war status quo but with all of that damage already done and then with a kremlin puppet in charge who would likely have no interest in fixing anything?Nobody is in a good position here, and nobody is incentivised to cave.