>Be 1980s America >"Yeah bro I'm gonna sell all my manufacturing and best military equipment to china"what were they thinking.
>>541441305"Mmmm, leaded gasoline fumes..."
>>541441305Dont underestimate a drug addicts need for a quick buck.
>>541441305>what were they thinking.Ordering stuff from china is cheaper than manufacturing it yourself. Slap your trusted brand logo on the product and the consoomer cattle will buy it anyway. Line go up.
>>541441305What's funny is that it was sold as being the anti communist, pro private enterprise Option despite literally empowering a Communist regime and bleeding private enterprise to the bone.To this day people trot out the whole HURR DURR I'M FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND I'M HERE TO HELP shit.
>what were they thinking.crapitalism
>Time to kick the cattle off OUR land
>>541441305Just business oligarchs trying to make a bit of money. Not that they couldn't make all the money they could ever need in America, but they were greedy and could make a bit more money in China because Chinese wages were very low, so decided to betray the very country which made them rich.Once a few start doing it the laws of the market take over and all of them have to do it to compete with each other.One of the most important factors is that boomers did not live through the great depression which completely delegitimized muh free market. So oligqrchs were able to brainwash boomers into once again believing that removing government regulations on the decisions of rich psychopaths is the best way to lead to utopia.
>>541441305They were thinking making China a little bit rich and give them wealth then they would fully embrace capitalism and become an ally against the Soviets.It became somewhat true and they aren't communist anymore but they didn't became allies and they became state capitalists instead while also their future arch enemy.
>>541441581Sad how many defenders of capitalism /pol/ has. 90+% of the people here are liberals just with some retarded meme ideology coat of paint over the top.
>>541441658>and become an ally against the SovietsChina split from the USSR under Mao and was already allied with the USA in that regard. Perhaps this is part of why the US was willing to invest in China under Deng Xiaoping, but the economic development of China has demonstrably caused them to just become more politically independent from the USA. Though yes, they are not communist in any meaningful sense and haven't been since Deng finished his reforms.
>>541441752the culture war has completely replaced class politics entirelybecause why worry about whether your children will have a future when you can worry about trannies and their penises
>>541441902China was rather neutral like India and Yugoslavia not a real ally.
GREEDGREEDGREED GREEDTHEY GOT YOUR ANCESTORS WITH GREED YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS
>>541441902This. Mao and the Soviets were already at each others throats in the 60s. They were dropping Maoism before Mao was even in the ground, and especially dropped it after he died with a standing army and allowing people to set up street markets and keep the profits they made. Deng realized the same thing the people had, and implemented it on a national scale: we need to make money to function and survive, or none of this marxist theory bullshit will matter in the end when people are pissed and killing, because we can't stop famining them. The U.S. knew, but sold stripping American manufacturing under the same brand they use to push AI today.
>>541441305this is exactly what they were thinking.
>>541442130Not a real ally, but they weren't neutral. They were actively doing what they could to undermine the Russians in an attempt to take their place as king commie in the Marxist socialist world. Why anyone here thought they would suddenly drop their shit to fall in line with us is beyond me, except that they were lying or shouldn't be near any position of influence.
>>541441305>what were they thinking.JEWISH TREASON
Nobody wanted it, so Clinton sent his Darth Vader storm troopers into the streets of Seattle to crush the older grey haired boomers from labor unions protesting giving it all away to the communist chinks at the WTO meeting.
>>541441305Megacorporations are global organizations, they make business everywhere they can. They don't have a patriotic alliance with any country.
>>541441305The United States never shipped its military industry (outside of maybe chips or optics but afaik those have been reshored since Biden) to China. It was like one of a dozen industries that stuck around here after NAFTA and China opening up.
>>541441305They were worried about Japan overtaking them in technology so they pretty much went all-in on slowing Japan down.
>>541442684They did this with a few countries btw but Japan was the most threatening and so had the most drastic action linked to it.People talk about enshittification etc. and this is a bigger cause of it then anything else.But exceptionalists dislike this history for various reasons.
And SLAVE LABOR. The Red Army goes out into the countryside and kidnaps huge masses of young women to work in the microchip industry because they have sharper eyesight and they lock them up in barracks with overflowing toilets and rotten food. They wake them up at 3 AM and work them for 14, 16 hours without pay. They put up suicide nets around their high rise barracks to prevent them from killing themselves. iPhones for self righteous yuppies are made by slave labor. Then when the girls are poisoned by industrial chemicals and gasses and they grow old and sick they're tossed out into the streets like garbage.
>>541441305Most of the early investment in China was from other asian countries, the west did not begin mass offshoring until after China was finally allowed to join the WTO in 2001
>>541441305>80sNAFTA was passed in 1993, which did more damage to American manufacturing.
>>541442942It started under Carter and took off under Reagan. They just cut up entire steel mills, packed them on big freighters and shipped them to Communist China and reassembled them there. And thank Jack Welch for starting the move of GE from the US to china
>>541441305Profits are the goal of capitalism.
"EYE GOTS ME A NEW EYE FONE, I'ZE AGINST SLAVERY".
>>541442094Truth. I've always said, the fact the so called left are pro immigration is the biggest triumph of capital in politics. Its patently absurd, and its because like you said economic class issues have been completely replaced with culture bullshit. The term 'political economy' is alien to modern society. The economy has been completely separated from politics and turned into an alleged hard science. Coincidentally this hard science is fully funded by oligarchs and fully confirms their biases. With economics being a 'hard science', there is no arguing against the absurd neoliberal policy prescriptions, and since nobody votes based on actual economics anyway they can craft whatever wealth extraction scheme they want. States in the west are going bankrupt because of a colossal wealth extraction scheme designed to siphon money from middle class tax payers into the hands of oligarchs, and the next policy prescription is to destroy the state rather than god forbid destroy the wealth extraction scheme.
Even now, chinks working in Communist China make $5 to $7 a day.
$5 a day and ZERO safety standardsBig corporations just HATE safety standards.
Industrial safety costs money, cuts into profits. We can't have that.... let the chink slaves suck it up. White workers have unions to sort of fight for safety standards...chink slaves can just die in hecatombs.
And of course not only are industrial safety regulations non existant or ignored, don't even think of environmental protection like in America.
>>541444244Wahooo
>>541441448>>541441305>Haha Walmart cheap>Need more crisco transfats hey why dad have heart attack oh well that's life I'll take a crisco burger and trans fat fries plz
not just china>im gonna just hand over means of production to the communist
>>541442617If it were possible they would have done it already. That's the entire premise of Metal Gear, soldiers founding their own nation because they know the one they were born in is always subservient to an oligarchy.
They were thinking "This is gonna make me so fucking rich that I don't have to give a shit what happens to America as a result of my actions. My wealth will transcend nationality. I can change home countries like people change shirts!" and they were right.
>>541441305Quarterly profits and shareholders wallets. Next question.
>>541444949Actually black peoples like incels
>>541441305good thing anarchists were still being executed in the 80s.
>>541441305>"Won't that destroy your economy and future?">"Incorrect, it will ensure my children are fully enslaved by my divine and most holy of masters, the sacred jewish race while I enjoy cruises and ensuring their future is even worse! I can almost taste the rabbi cocks I'll service in heaven, I can't wait! As an angloyid there is nothing holier than my worship of the jew!"
>>541443707Whoa dude I'm so confused, the pro-Union left assures me that communism will prevent things like this from happening.
>>541442684>OH NO JAPANESE PRODUCTS??? HOW DYSTOPIAN!!!!>I love Temu Americans are peculiar.
>>541443366>With economics being a 'hard science'It's one of the social sciences and as such is highly subjective and has more in common with law or theology than with actual science.
>>541441305>what were they thinking.Money
Kill xi and china goes back to not trying to kill the world
>>541441305>what were they thinking."I am going to be dead long before the consequences of my actions actually take place, and I'll be rich while I am alive. Why wouldn't I live a life of pure hedonism if there's no consequences, you'd be stupid not to!"
>>541441305I will earn allot of money and profit since white american males have too much bargaining power I will empower women, invite mexicans and then ship to china, H1B visas next.Merchant Rule and proto Matriarchy = not a civilization
>>541442856those do not work duh
>>541441305>"I will make a fortune"
>>541441305>what were they thinking"If my competitors use cheap Chinese labour and I do not, I will be undercut and I will lose my business"
that was mostly in the 90s and 00s but it was a good deal
>>541441305They thought the Chinese lacked some sort of inherent "creativity" to make their own companies. You still hear this shit today btw.Richfags are obsessed with India because it has an average IQ of 85, and the Indians above that leave their country, so there's basically zero risk of them ever competing with US oligarchs.
>>541441305They openly admit they did it to put conservatives out of work
Because america can't order their companies around and make them stay in America, they just followed the market and made a profit reshoring. You can't have cheap shit made in the country + overall high wages , you have to pick one
>>541441305Faustian bargain, work with the Chinese in Afghanistan/Angola to beat the soviets. >We will beat the soviets, turn them to democracy, then crush the poor and retarded chicoms that keep having famines1990s arrive>Chicoms ask the World Bank what they would have to do to catch the USA in 50 years>World Bank economists laugh their asses off, decide to take project seriously and write a note>Shocked pikachu when the chinese just implement the recommendations without editing them>Clinton decides to put them in the WTO in the hopes that free trade makes war unnecessary
Holy Toledo! what a blunder. At least we have a Knox full of gold to cry into
