The quantity of guns is meaningless when the people who own them are incapable of fighting with them.Most are fat and old.All are utterly disorganized.The Right needs to figure out how to form a viable political organization before it can fight a civil war or revolution. The GOP isn't going to do that for you.
We've been in a civil race war for 60 years. The ryles of war are>no violence from whites>whites pay the wages>if bring up the war you loseAnd we're still fighying
There is not going to be any civil war you iddiots. The civil war is in ukraine between slavs where they are killing eachother becquse one group qants gay buttsex and is nazi becquae of it whereas the other group is not nazi and is against gay buttsex
How exactly would you even fight a “civil war” with the insane amount of X-Ray surveillance, drones, satellite controlled AI cameras and so on?
>>541453805Window for civil war closed after Jan 6. Now we are 2 to 10 years away from AGI takeover. Sorry gg. Better luck next reincarnationhttps://youtu.be/D8RtMHuFsUw?is=GSfhDLe-SEiXrt42
>>541453805you lost, tranny
>>541454200Whoops, someone's not buying the "one race the human race" lies forced at gunpoint on the White Americans (I repeat myself) of the past.Don't race-mix, anon. We need more intelligent White people, not fewer. But you already know this
>>541453805Rightoids aren't going to do shit. No matter how many guns they consooom they're still the biggest pussies on the planet. Piss the left off enough though and you end up taking a bullet in the neck like Charlie Kirk. Mentally ill/trooned out or not, the left doesn't fucking hesitate and are far more likely to be honed into stone cold killers. Just look at the Red Army Faction, or the IRA, or the Cuban revolutionaries, or the Viet Cong who handed the mutts their own asses not even that long ago.That should tell you everything you need to know about how the right would do in a civil war, if they're stupid enough to provoke one.
>>541455227You'd do things like fly drones into substations and data centers to disable all of that shit.
>>541453805Now leftists are making cope threads
>>541455775>thinking that will disable a collective trillion dollar power control grid
>>541455489Show flag kike
The right wing has literally all the young men meanwhile 75% of the left is women, the elderly, the disabled, minorities with no real push comes to shove stake, and effete men. It’s not even a debate. The left only exists because the right allows it. A real civil war would quickly look like this right wing faction vs that right wing faction. The left would be jettisoned from civilization entirely.
>>541455978What are they coping about?>>541455983You're right. Fighting an insurgency would be extremely challenging. We have a long way to go before we even stand a chance.But the first step is to get organized
>>541453805Medea.Joplin.Eire.I am coming for your souls.>"I promised to never flood the world again... I never said anything about not dousing it in gasoline and striking a match to it's surface."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHv7hHfeNsk
>>541453805incoming
>>541453805Leftists are too disorganised, undisciplined, neurotic and impulsive to put up any real fight when it does come to North America and Western Europe. The ones who don’t starve will be enslaved and sterilised. I look forward to that day.
>>541453805>The quantity of guns is meaningless when the people who own them are incapable of fighting with them.So the left. Imagine a bunch of purple haired trannies trying to fight a war lol
>>541453805LOLNobody on the right is worried about it.
>>541455983In a local area, yes it will. There's tons of areas where there's very little redundancy and if you take out enough substations the resulting demand drop to the grid can cause upstream damage to power plants which further lengthens the time to get the power back on. Do it on cold or hot days and you're hitting it during peak load periods and it'll maximise the effect.
>>541453805>the strongest government the world has ever seen will allow a few brave revolutionaries to commit genocide on their pay pigs please try. I want to watch you fags go out like the waco maniacs
>>541456107>The left only exists because the right allows it.Is that so?Why then do you allow it?Every year, things get worse and worse. Despite your brace words, our position is grim and getting grimmer.
>>541453805True, when leftists kill right wing talking faces like Charlie Kirk now nothing is done about it even though they are in government, right wingers in the US are far too individualist to fight any kind of conflict and couldn't offer almost any organized resistanced
>>541456370>>541456628>>541456633See >>541456790
>>541453805OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>541455227>>541455775Literally this you blow up the sub stations and derail the trains pretty simple shit really insurgency 101. Don’t even need a drone a 308 will blow a substations transformers right up
>>541456907Right wingers themselves would call anyone trying to organize to do that feds and side with the government
>>541457023Honestly best case scenario for me is the leftist lunatics and the fed niggers just get into a murder contest with each other while I chill up in Appalachia and sit this one out
>>541453805You need to learn the concept of spray and pray, boyo. Things have changed since the 1860s, we're not fighting with muzzle loaded single shot muskets any longer. Limp wristed onions drinking urban sequestered libtards won't last a week.
US infrastructure seems pretty vulnerable. Cut off the interstate system and you'll see a lot of cities in famine conditions. I only really see right wing groups training for this. Left wing extremists seem to think if they just hold their printed signs up in their free speech zone that they'll change people's minds. The violence surrounding their protests isn't ideologically based, just a bunch of opportunists. Leftists don't have that dog in them. A lot of them don't actually believe it, they just say things that make them feel good.
>>541453805>The Right needs to figure out how to form a viable political organizationThat's literally illegal and the government actively prevents people from doing this, up to and including jailing people for talking.The parties are limited hangouts, nothing more.
>>541457161Thats the consensus on /pol/ and I suspect irl is very similar, in the US any kind of organized right wing activity is seen as the same as being a federal agent unless its hardcore zionism. Leftists would mop up american right wingers easily for that reason
>>541453805Then I guess you have nothing to worry about and can go home.
>>541453805Garbage slide thread
>>541457586>Leftists would mop up american right wingers easily for that reasonDo you really think leftists, who consist of blacks, browns, white women, gays, beta cuck white males, trannies etc. can ever beat american right wingers who are almlost exclusively white male and who had been shooting for funsies for decades?
>>541457586Not at all leftist would get mowed down by M60s and .50cals and 25mm auto cannons not worried at all. But yes the American right knows not to organize because we don’t need to. The only far right violence comes from autistic 18 year old fed groomed kids. But to say the far right populace would get mopped up is comedy
>>541453805Dear retard, I am not an american and even I know that the REPUBLICANS won the last civil war and the pro slavery side loosers created the democrat party.Either you are a shill, and if you are get a new job you are useless at this one or a complete retard.
>>541457828Unironically yes, any organized right wing movement in the US is always attacked by the right wing in America, right wing in America is hyper individualistic and sees all group resistance to status quo as a conspiracy against them>>541457912They would not, you would personally call people who resist in any way feds>But yes the American right knows not to organize because we don’t need toExactly, this is why you're going to always lose, you're perpetually paranoid and anti social
>>541458405Buddy ain’t no one afraid of niggers and faggots.
>>541458405And yes the military has done and will murder any uprising with indiscriminate lethality and force you know nothing about my nations history if you really believe that
>>541458405I am all the way 14/88 HH mien kampfing!!!!! I’m just like you anon. I would totally be in the Struppen Waffels SS Hitler Division now please show me where the rifles are buried. Kys fed nigger
I don't think anyone's unified enough to fight a civil war well right now. If violence does break out, it'll look less like the first Civil War and more like a Rwandan Genocide. Or like the fighting around Kansas City during the Civil War, which was quite unlike the organized fighting Back East.
>>541456790In short, complacency, hesitation, and philosophical-legal error.
>>541453805Even most you left wing "intellectuals" openly state you'd lose a civil war decisively if you dont strip the right of guns and completely eradicate non-progressive leadership from the military, kid.Why do you sexless incels get on here daily spewing out your retarded power fantasies hoping it'd somehow change reality? You're basically the same as all these trannies on here daily crying cause only 7% of the population now support their bullshit in nearly every current opinion poll across the western countries.
>>541453805Always jews and their dumb wars
>>541453805The left can't even spell civil war. They'd surrender in less than 24 hours after the first shots are fired.
>>541456907This actually wouldn't work...>>541457175Against what? No organized force exists to do them harm
>>541454200>>541455388CHECKED
>>541457438If you attempted to blockade a highway, you're gonna be drone struck.>>541457577This is simply not true.>>541457700I am home. My home is being invaded by shitskins.Stop projecting like a retard
>>541458080Cringe>>541460229They're wrong. They control the government and take politics more seriously than you do
>>541460459That's delusional.See >>541456790
>>541459143You say that from behind your screen.In real life, 20 niggers will mog you and not one cuckservative will come to your aid.Your brutal death will be mentioned on /pol/ for 3 days before the millions of disorganized larpers move onto something else.The Right doesn't exist as a cohesive force at all. Leftists only fear us out of ignorance. If they realized how utterly weak we are, they'd push even harder.
>>541460753The left is a disorganized mess of disgenic freaks. They can't handle feelings. And actual firefight would give them all PTSD.
>>541453805>>the right couldn't even fight
>>541456107So go ahead and do somethingYou won't do shit because you're just "too nice", right? =3
>>541453805>quantity of guns is meaningless Especially meaningless when Russia and China will likely give right wingers FPV drones, loitering munitions and special forces support directly if this ever happened after some of us broke all Western ISR and nuclear triad assets for them while training their military and codeveloping dual use technology No more civil war threads you guys have no idea how much damage these discussions have done Im not joking anymore. NATO has no future because liberal rhetoric became so violent and insufferable right wingers and Centrists like my self already defected and ruined every major military asset and sensitive technology while pretending everything is still normal to set everyone who refuses to fight back against the left up for utter disaster later via rug pull
>>541462093miggerturd hubris
>>541462878I hate civil war threads after working with Russia and China for 5 years on dual use technology and everything else imaginable Talk all the shit you want you live on borrowed time and your bright liberal future is an illusion that will never manifest. Russian and Chinese mushroom clouds will manifest first because the Golden Dome is a missile shield with more holes than Swiss CheeseReal right wingers and Centrists defected when they realized America was already dead years ago
>>541460576How many endpoints do you think your data is accessible from?How long do you think some random POG in an isolated installation will hold out before entering their credentials under duress?
>>541453805The right will never win a civil war because they’re larpers who underestimate their opponents, they think that left wingers aren’t psychopaths willing to die for their beliefs when they’ve shown time and time again they are quicker to do that than any RWs are- they kill in the name of Islam, they abort babies with no conscious, they flood the streets and destroy their own towns and marketplaces over police brutality- now you want to give them guns and ample time to plan and strategize when they’ve already proven they are by far the more intelligent side?? That will be a complete wipeout, RWs will focus on trying to kill as many blacks and mexicans as possible and end up getting terminated.These are all reasons they lost the first civil war too, a man fighting to keep people in bondage will never have more fire than a man fighting to free people from bondage, eventually you will yield because the loss isn’t worth the keep
>>541463131>miggerturd hubrisOk Candace.
>>541456721Well, for one thing, even in that hypothetical scenario, you’d fuck yourselves in power outages too.Two, let’s say you fry the mainframe of AI and eliminate it. Guess what? Hostile foreign powers still have it. And they can use it against you.
>>541459827Nah, it would be like the Troubles in Ireland. Mini factions and militia groups doing small attacks.
>>541464858True, unfortunately.>>541463064>Russia and China will likely give right wingers FPV dronesWhat organization will they be giving the drones to?Apart from Patriot Front, which is a mere 600 men, the Right is wholly unorganized. You cannot give drones to a faction that doesn't exist and Patriot Front isn't stupid enough to initiate an insurgency with just 600 men.>No more civil war threads you guys have no idea how much damage these discussions have done Im not joking anymore.I disagree. We need to discuss this so we can fix the problem. The problem is that the Right lacks any drive to organize.>>541466406>Mini factions and militia groups doing small attacks.Are you in a militia?No. Neither is anyone else ITT.The left has actual organization, the Right does not.
>>541462093Still delusional.See >>541456790If the Right was capable of resisting the left, we wouldn't be in this humiliating situation.
>>541459827>>541466406With 100,000 flock cameras I don't see how an insurgency can start
>>541453805The left will infight but still band together in voting blocks. The right won't.The left will attempt to capture whole institutions. The right won't.The left will plan and prepare for multiple scenarios ahead of time. The right won't.The left will allow edge cases in but keep an eye on them and do checks. The right won't.TLDR the left are treating it as a long term engagement and the right are all dealing with uppity BS and short term goals.
>>541467220This is correct.But also, there can be no civil war because only one side is capable of waging one: The left/governmentTrump may be president, but he is utterly unwilling to do what needs to be done to stay in power. If he wanted to stay in power, why hasn't he begun establishing an independent powerbase like a National Guard that is loyal to himself?He needs an army and it would be extremely easy to create one.ICE isn't loyal to Trump alone and won't back him up if he chose to remain in power. Also, he's like 90 years old now.
>>541465420Hostile foreign powers would be on our side, since they hate America as well
>>541467020I’m not. But there are a shit ton of right wing militias in the US, and Active Clubs.>>541467220Unless you destroyed them all or shut down the power grid, it would be difficult.
>>541467812Oh yeah?Name one that is active.
>>541467622Literally no. China has highly developed AI systems, including robots, among many other nations. They’d take advantage of the war, and if you nuke your own AI grid here, you’d be at a disadvantage.The most ideal situation would be to completely destroy AI worldwide. But how would you even do that?>>541467864All of them.
>>541453805never going to happen as long as the electricity and internet stays on.
>>541453805Brother, no one actually wants a civil war except Jews because all it means is more dead goyim
The US is currently a multi-ethnic empire and once its money stream runs dry it will inevitably collapse into smaller ethnic states.
>muh left:let's fuggn fight,but I'm too important so pls fight our military instead>muh right:I'll meet ya halfway bitch, BTW I'm currently active military and won't be fighting for the leftIndelible in the Hippocampus is alive and unwell courtesy of the Looney-left
>>541456866Because they’re the meat-shield for the globohomo international corporate crime syndicate posing as our government. Are you retarded anon?
>>541469032>believing the muttified military wouldn’t just do whatever the fuck they’re toldIf ICE can waste people in the street over virtually nothing, imagine branches of the US military. There’s also leftists and commies in it.
>leftist tranny army assembles>everyone %41's themselves before any fighting begins>mfw
>>541464858We don't want niggers in bondage, we want them in mass graves or on boats back to Africa.
>>541453805Ratify the war and lets see jew.
>>541472401It can't be everyone retard. Just 41% of them.Statistics don't care about your feelings
The majority of young men are rightwingWomen voting democrat doesn't make 'the young' rightwingYoung men have an incentive to fight for the right so they can rape those womenGG you loseRetard
>>541462878Post address
>>541455489Brevik has a higher body count than leftists over the last ten years. Throw in Tarrant and McVeigh and the few far right attacks have dwarfed leftist attacks. Gendry also, I believe his is the most recent.Leftist violence is more frequent but less deadly. When a far right radical goes off, they kill FAR more than leftist faggots.
We will see faggot...
>>541460555check on check'dnice trips
Nothing will be done until everybody is really, really poor. Until then it's more "lol usual suspects" and "imagine if the roles were reversed". The elites know this so they're just waiting out the clock until the birth rates are so few that entire towns are replaced, which is already happening in places like the UK and of course Spain.
>>541453805Be honest. How many cocks have you sucked today? Apparently it wasn't enough. You're delusional fag. You wouldn't last 10 seconds in fight with a 10-year-old girl That's how fucking pathetic you are. But hey keep dreaming your dream. But let me tell you something reality is a mother fucker.
>>541453805I accept.
>>541468005Haha, funny.The problem is that I've looked. There is no militia that is actually active beyond being a fun little club for a few dozen men at best. There's only one reasonably large pro-White grassroots organization. Patriot Front. Beyond them, there are no others.>>541474658I noticed that you need to cede the left all initiative.That's because the Right can't start a civil war. It can't because there are zero Right wing grassroots organizations, zero paramilitary organizations of any note, and zero means of initiating a conflict.It must wait for the left to decide the time and the place to initiate.By then, it will be too late.
>>541476668Patriot Front doesn’t train with firearms (publicly).
>>541476805Correct.Nor should they for the following reasons1. That's an invitation for feds to fuck you up2. That kind of behavior tends to attract screwball spergs who will go off and do things that will end in your organization being shut down3. They're 600 strong at best. Now is not the time to play around with weapons.People who play around with weapons are not serious revolutionaries. They're LARPing. Real revolutionaries understand that weapons are tools for overthrowing tyrants. They are not toys that you play around with.You only need weapons when you're strong enough to use them.Now is not the time to play soldier.
>>541453805>utterly disorganizedThe left can't even grow a communal garden when they take over an area.
One of the things that pisses me off so much is gunfags. Gunfags will scream and point at the 2nd amendment "shall not be infringed!" But they're literally misinterpreting it. The text is clearly trying to say that militias are the way to secure a free community. Yet they pretend otherwise, they say "everyone is the militia" which means every yahoo and yanklevich has the right to an AR-15.The reason why this fails is because your military power scales exponentially with "organization". 100 organized men will cleave through 100 disorganized men like a knife through butter. Need an example? Look at any battle the Romans fought against barbarians, often heavily outnumbered. Look at the Battle of Watling Street, 10,000 organized romans cleaved through 800,000 barbarians and scarcely lost a man. So what's key here is *organization*, that's what gives power, not guns themselves. That's why the militia is far more important than your right to scare old women at wallmart. If this entire time you had interpreted the amendment to safeguard the rights of the militia, you'd be in a far better place.The problem is, the amount of gun rights you'd need to realistically oppose the feds is too much. You'd need mass ownership of grenades, rocket launchers, RPG's, tanks...etc. That obviously will never be allowed. But the militia, as a well trained, organized, and disciplined force can be afforded access to these weapons. You will train, do drills, become fit and active.These militias will become "governments in waiting, just biding their time to step into authority. They will become proving grounds for young men to rise the ranks and lead the future rebellion. A network of such militias across the NorthWest could effectively expel the feds from the entire region, it would be the roots of a real rebellion.But no, we can't do any of that, because "shall not be infringed".
>>541476805>Patriot Frontlol... in the early days look at how and who promoted/mentioned it. That's all you need to know. Not everyone is a fucking idiot
>>541455489>Bullet in the neckNice try IDF
>>541477646Consider two policiesPolicy 1) Mass ownership/liberalization of gun rights-- Chaos, anarchy, creates the demand for greater government authority.-- These people are disorganized rabble, fearing each other, unable to come together when necessary-- Lots of innocent people dying as grenades and RPG's are going off everywhere. -- The feds easily defeat the chaotic, disorderly rabble. Policy 2) The militia-- Individual gun ownership is curtailed to a large extent, therefore anyone wanting to shoot joins the millitia-- They are trained, disciplined, taught small unit tactics-- Because they are disciplined, they are granted access to real military weaponry.-- As an organized force they are capable of carrying out complex plans and strategies-- Despite being smaller in number, their power level is HUGE, they are a real fighting force-- The community is strengthened in general as men are given a club to network with other men-- Power moves away from the feds and to self-sustaining communities, the feds have to treat people much better, the ultimate "democracy"
