I unironically believe that Feudal Monarchy, with veneration of the Catholic Church, is the best system of government that Europe has ever had, and is the reason why Europe is so strong today.>Uniting Europe the one and only time in History during the Crusades>Inquisitions to fight against Heresy that causes institutional and social decay>Moral Laws reign supreme, righteousness celebrated>All of the kings are answerable to the religious authorities, and are seen as being intermediaries between the divine and the realm of man>System that understands all land as property owned by families, to be passed down to the sons of the ruler (Especially Gavelkind succession, in which a realm is split up between the sons)>this causes constant struggle and reunifications, promotes survival of the fittest and makes europeans have stronger genes
>>541499172Yes we must worship a jewish rabbi, it's the best system of governance
>>541499172>best system for your people is to wholly enslave themi fail to see how being a slave is better than not being a slave
>>541499246you get a guy in vatican to send you to die in the middle east for who knows what reason, so its all good
>>541499304>for who knows what reason, so its all goodYou mean the Arabs conquering the Levant, Syria, Egypt, North Africa, Persia, Spain, turning all of its believers into Muslims and its people into brown hordes? All of these places used to be whiter and most of them Christian The Crusades were a justified case of Europe defending itself from foreign invaders, and it would not have been possible without the religious institution of the church.
>>541499246>muh you would be a slaveSlave Morality bullshit, the right to rule does not come from the consent of the governed, it comes from above. Fascism concedes to enlightenment values by using popular support to justify itself. Return to Aristocracy, the natural and spiritual order of things.Prime example would be the frankish kingdom from Clovis to Charlemagne (466-814). Basically Clovis understood that the kingdom was the property of his family, and he rightfully followed the logic that a fathers property and wealth should be split up among his song. So he divided the frankish kingdom between all 4 of his sons, who fought with each other until eventually reunification after like 50 years. Then the re-unifier died, and his 4 sons also got their own kingdoms, and on and on and on until Charlemagne united Frankia, conquered Saxony, Italy, Bavaria, and more, only to once again split his kingdom between his sons.The concept of the modern nation-state is the reason why we are in this mess today. countries not have such modern borders and the modern concept of a nation-state is not natural. be owned, and the right to own it should not come from the masses. we should have aristocratic values and not enlightenment values . borders should change constantly.
>>541499172It was good for stopping cousin marriages but it's an archaic system now
>>541499304might be hard to believe, but most of the middle east used to be mediteranean and white before arab hordes conquered it. the crusades were an attempt to take those lands back, and it was beautiful. the first time in all of history that europe has united as one, and it hasn't happened since
>>541499435crusades were pretty much just ways for rich nobles to get richer and aquire more land. had little to do with religion. they will tell you whatever just to make you fight for them - back then you were fighting for religion, today for democracy
>>541499694>the government doesnt actually care about doing the good things that its doing, its just doing those good things for powerok
>>541499822I mean, yeah. that's usually it. what exactly was the point of crusades? take Jerusalem because it is the most special place of all places? kill some muslims in a distant desert? some crusades were even against other Christians because Byzantium was a rival
>>541499172Seconded.It just makes sense to me.Monarchy ensures the leadership of the country from the King all the way down to the Mayor are all personally invested in the success of the nation not for morality or for duty or for anything that can be shirked for money; for their family's well-being.Then you use something like the Catholic Church as an oversight committee.I'm not even Catholic, I really don't like what they stand for, but you need a higher authority over the monarchs to ensure they stay on track just in case.Such a shame I don't think that style of government can make a comeback ever.
>>541499562>Slave Morality bullshit, the right to rule does not come from the consent of the governed, it comes from above.slave morality is what you display, being okay with being a slave for benefit of others. you are not the governing body in your scenario.master morality is what i display here, fighting against my enslavement and wanting to be free and selfgoverning. fighting for my interest.i dont see how you could get the two mixed up into polar opposite.
>>541499172Feudalism worked because it kept a healthy balance of power and representation between the warrior class, the clergy, the merchant class and the working class, while keeping the monarch as the sovereign arbiter of conflict.Total warrior class domination and you have mad max warlord savagery Total clergy domination and you become a weak, passive and detached biomass.Total merchant domination and you have modern capitalist globalism where you are turned into consumer cattle and replaced by other consumer cattle by the "invisible wanker"Total working class domination is a commie pipe dream that ultimately just leads to a vicious cycle of short sighted resource extraction and envy driven violence.But ultimately, it all boils down to the inherent abilities of the population. A bad system can stunt the success of a competent people, but a good system does not work miracles on an incompetent people.Feudalism worked because it happened in Europe, and Catholicism had jack shit to do with it btw.
>>541499435I really dont give a fuck about conflicts between christjews and muslimjews.
Americans are such somber primitives.They always harkon to nonsense they have 0 connection with.
I prefer warrior kings, its the better system. But ultimately, if your government doesn't fight its own wars, you're a sucker.Imagine not only paying taxes,but being conscripted in massive numbers to die in a ditch somewhere else, while the people who started the war are sitting in a cushy office?
>>541499172>why Europe is so strong today>Europe>strong
lol ameritards always have this weird romanticized outlook on medieval europe
>>541500173whenver I see a post by a US flag I am mentally prepared for another round of deep thoughts from da hood
>>541499172Christianity is for tards, but I guess it makes for compliant npc cattle?
>>541499172>fr*nchStopped reading there
>>541500315These colonial mongrels are worse than the Chinese when it comes to bug systems.Now Americans want to be feudal plantation slaves.
>>541499172>I unironically believe that Feudal Monarchy, with veneration of the Catholic Church, is the best system of government that Europe has ever had, and is the reason why Europe is so strong today.
>>541499172> Europe is so strong today
What do you think of this, OP?https://youtube.com/shorts/DGvDN6A_joY
>>541499172>with veneration of the Catholic ChurchWrong, with the veneration of the sacred hearth. You aren't listening, it is the only solution to fix the world.
>>541499172Fuck off christFAGGOT christcuck christloser christoid christrash
>>541499172specifically the catholic church of the crusades period. When the church changed to trying to convert africans and native americans and shit it was too weak by that point. Pre-1300 catholic church.
>>541499304the muslims were invading southern europe before any campaigns to the middle east by europeans happened - dumb nigger - they used to torture entire cities in italy and spain
>>541500710>When the church changed to trying to convert africansThe "church" was invented by Africans.Not Europeans.The oldest church in world is in fucking Ethiopia.Augustine and Tertullian.Americans are so fucking dumb and unsentient.
>>541500775yeah i watched the last 5 minutes of youtube also - dumb nigger
Oh look, another retarded larp ideology thread. Grow up..
>>541500765And the Christians were conducting slave raids deep into Europe.And selling the slaves to the Sarracens.Prague Slave Trade.Again. Americans are dumb.
>>541500376You can have that guy in charge or an equally inbred guy with a dual citizenship with Israel.Take your pick lmao
>>541500795Your whole country should be blocked off from the fucking internet.Circumcised retard stew.
>>541500821that didn't negate my point, dumb FUCKING HALF MORROCAN NIGGER
>>541500892>sarracens attack>christians do the same shitYou have two measures for two equal pieces of shit.
>>541500001slave morality is wanting to protect the weak and oppressed classes. in truth, strength and ambition are virtues. i have noble blood in my veins
>>541501026>>541500001There was more class mobility in medieval europe than there is now anyway. you could become a very skilled person, become a strong knight, and eventually sit on your lieges castle and be granted titles of your own. the wealth gaps between the nobility and the peasantry, was also lower than the wealth gap between workers and capitalists today they had like 1/3rd of the year off work too and lots of holidays.
>>541501026>slave morality is wanting to protect the weak and oppressed classes.im against feudalism not because of le others. im in it for myself (master morality).meanwhile youre the cuck betraying yourself.>you could become a very skilled personno. you were what your master assigned you to be. you couldnt even move to another town without your local feudal lords permission (as he owned you and moving would be a loss to him). people were property and like any property tied to the land, which the feudal lord owned, exactly as if a mill or farm on that land. you often couldnt even marry a woman without your feudal lords permission. you were genuine cattle, property in the literal sense.>become a strong knight,knights were from nobility, especially in later feudalism. you wouldnt become a knight from being a great soldier, youd still continue being just an ordinary soldier.>be granted titles of your ownonly if you were nobleborn in the first place.>the wealth gaps between the nobility and the peasantry, was also lower than the wealth gap between workers and capitalists today youre right about that. but larger gap doesnt imply those at the lower end at it are automatically worse off compared to a situation with smaller gap.
>>541500296i blame HBO series.>>541500093everything is only a product of its time. feudalism got subverted and extinguished by capitalism precisely because rapid tech/economic advancements made slow unadapting rigid feudalism nonviable and noncompetitive. just like how the growing second economy in ussr dissolved soviet socialism.bringing it back today couldnt possibly work.
>>541499172No, far too much of this shit is romanticizedMonarchy wasn't as great as the TV shows makes it out to be
>>541499172>System that understands all land as property owned by families, to be passed down to the sons of the ruler (Especially Gavelkind succession, in which a realm is split up between the sons)Lol fuck off, that is the worst system of all, because it completely splits up the kingdom and only forces the oldest son to immediate start a war against his brothers in order to unify the realm again. The eu games aren't even being realistic about their own political systems, since all that stupid fucking inheritance crap was gotten rid of in the twelfth century or whatever, before eu4's official start date. Why? Because everyone were completely aware of the fact that splitting up the realm just so all the dumbfuck sons could inherit their own separate realm, was a terrible political solution.
>>541499226Better than eorshipping a fucking anthro-elephant, a cow and its shit and/or a stupid tree, Pajeet
capitalist technocracy would be superior model to the current nation-states. I want to be citizen of X. And I dont like it, I can become the citizen of Spotify instead. Or even better, Lidl. The problem with nation-state democracies are these fuckin politicians, i hate them
>>541507745how is worshipping a dead jew better than worshipping a tree?
