KekIts actually happeninghttps://www.reuters.com/world/pentagons-nato-review-preparing-troop-options-hegseth-by-november-6-2026-08-27/>WASHINGTON, Aug 27 (Reuters) - A Pentagon review of U.S. troop deployments in Europe will create at least four sets of options for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth by November 6, well ahead of a December deadline for the review's completion, according to a document seen by Reuters.>NATO allies worry that the six-month review, announced in June, will lead to large-scale cuts to the roughly 80,000 U.S. forces across Europe and punish countries that President Donald Trump believes failed to support the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran.
CIA Director John Ratcliffe did not inform the EU about his visit to Russia on Tuesday, according to European Commission spokesperson Paula Pinho.This is what the meeting was about
Fuck NATO lol.
theres not even close to congressional support for that and a president can't do it with a decree. so no, despite 10 years of continuous whining, they will remain our cucked slaves who will defend us with their lives and give us literally a trillion a year in defense expenditure so that we can have 30 paid vacation days, free healthcare and schooling and 32 hour workweeks
Dont believe thisIts no fucking coincidence that the US has announced the drone found in Germany trying to blow up supply plane was Russian today, the day after the meetingThe US fucking knows it was Ukrainian and are giving Russia the heads up
>>541502657Being an American taxpayer is a pure humiliation ritual, especially in light of how Europoors continually brag about their cushy social programs (i.e. free healthcare) as if any of them would be possible if their lips weren't collectively suctioned to our chaffed teats.
>>541502599"You didnt die for israel with us, fuck you! you assholes! we're pulling out of nato and going home, oh and by the way, here is some petty tariffs that I'll have to back down on. I'm seething about iran, we can't defeat them and you won't help">>541502505Stop buying their weapons. Get them out of europe. Stop letting them drag you into wars because israel wants it. Do deals with all of the rivals and enemies of the US
>>541502505lol, Israel will bankcrupt US
>>541502657The US doesnt need to get congressional approvalAny standing president has the right to withdraw from any treatyYou need approval to get into them but not to revoke
>>541502505>believes failed to supportNo one stepped up lmao. How is it 'believes' they failed
>>541502657it’s very funny how eurotrannies constantly seethe about us having our bases on their territory but don’t realize that what you say is correct. Nonetheless the bases are absolutely going, probably not in Trump’s term but by 2036 at the latest, because people are simply tired of being the world’s policeman and to add insult to injury, being criticized for doing it. Enjoy conscription, cuts to your social safety net and/or tax hikes, faggot. Inshallah a russian missile hits your house
>>541502823Wrong. Trump cannot withdraw from NATO without congressional approval.
>>541502505Based. Fuck muslims
>>541502505>US leaves NATO>Russia attacks the BaltoidsOHNONON NAFO BROS NOT LIKE THIS
>>541502822>will
>>541502751but you are not spending to defend Europe, you are spending to invade middle eastern countries for Israel and then stupid republican point at the big number they spent in Iraq and say look how much more we spend on NATO compared to other countries. Spending money on your own gay wars is not contributing to NATO lol.
>>541502751Included in that bar graph is all the money you spend on wars for Israel.
>>541502900Trump can do whatever he wants and you won't do shit about it.
Can't attack Turkey on Israel's behalf if you're in NATO.
>>541502674what are you saying? The US knows it was Ukraine but is saying it was Russia to help Russia?
>>541502900Nixon unilaterally withdrew from the ABM Treaty; Carter from the Taiwan treaty over “Senate-consult” objections; the executive’s power to withdraw is the settled practiceIts settled presidenceThere is a slight legal issue under NDAA but all he has to do is draw down to such a level its a done deal, he doesnt need even slight approval for that
>>541502790the second you do that russian tanks roll into the baltics and everyone on the planet knows that pissweak europoors will not lift a finger about it.
>>541502980Hope you'll enjoy the last two years of his presidency where he'll be the lamest of lame ducks.The "Truth" seethe will be glorious.
>>541502558>Rat cliffWow, what a fitting name.
>>541502505Trump is the best US president in my lifetime. Fuck retards who think otherwise.
>>541502505Is it amicable??? I hate whores
>>541503007They know it was Ukraine but they cant say it, so they went to Russia yesterday and told them they are going to blame RussiaIt was an attempt to activate article 5 and now the US is going to pull out of the EU so they dont get drawn in
>>541502599NATO is a retarded black hole for money and defense contractors. There is like 50 cold wars that never end because of NATO. It created eternal wars instead of letting wars just end by military might. Look at the Korean War. It never ended. It is costly and has led to a chasm in a country where one side is autocratic and militarisitic and the other side is playing some western corporistic liberalocracy. The war should have ended with NK taking back and SK and then going through the communist collapse cycle like its neighbors did. Instead one side is fake and gay and the other side is a giant gulag. For what? What was gained from this?
>>541503032This ! God bless Donald J. Trump for freeing Europe from the Amerimutt monster and it's degeneracy Thank you Donald Trump you are my best friend !
>>541502505Wait so EU hates America but considers America reducing their troop deployment in Europe as a bad thing? Pick a lane you morons. This is so pathologically European. They will turn their head one way to kiss you then turn their head another way to speak terrible things about you. Fags.
>>541503127>American assumptions>"This is so pathologically European"Go be retarded elsewhere.
>>541502505>>541502599>>541502751>>541502822NATO has a direct operating budget of 5 billion dollars that the NATO cunts pay into. America pays something like 800 million every year, which is matched by Germany of all countries. This is the only money the USA directly pays forward to NATO - the only other requirement is "spend money on military stuff", which America would do regardless of NATO membership. America GIVES Israel 3.5 billion a year. Just for military (this doesn't include economic aid) Every year. For fucking decades.America rewarded Israel like 37 billion just for the Iran fiasco this summer.
>>541503127Western Euros are egotistical retards. They love the benefits that the US has for them but when they are off the mic they will shit talk the US like no other. Europe needs to fend for itself. They will learn really fucking fast that their gay feminized dystopia that has running water - the water will stop running.
>>541502505It's time for the USA to do business with real tough guys like Ziggers instead of traitorous cowardly Euro cucks who can't even defend themselves and pay Kiev's regime to defend them.
>>541502505Based, the Baltic chihuahuas will have to face the Chihuahua shitbull alone.
>>541503127The EU has been playing war via the commission using US assetsThe US wants Russian oil back on the marketThere are no more anti missile munitions for sale anywhere Every thing points to the US wanting to cut ties now, especially after Iran
we will find out more today>Colby is expected to speak with NATO ambassadors about the review on Thursday at the alliance's Brussels headquarters.>"We want to be able to talk through the pros and cons of a variety of different force levels or dispositions," the official told Reuters.>It is unclear, however, whether the details will convince European officials skeptical of the review process, who say privately they are concerned Washington's decision is all but made.It sounds like its a done deal
>>541502505Israel really played DonnyMidterms soon I doubt dems will let him do this.
>>541502505 staying in NATO and getting Article 5ed into WW3> NOPE leaving NATO and avoiding Article 5 entanglements entirely > NOPE leaving NATO and joining the Russo-Ukraine war on the side of Russia> HELL DA TOVARISH
>>541503386they cant stop himand honestly, I dont think they would anyway
No one in the thread read the actual news? This place is fucking braindead.
>>541502505its not, theyre just reducing troop numbers>HURR DURR>LET ME INVENT FAKE STORIES TO CREATE ENGAGEMENTthis is foid influencer level, what youre doing is the incel version of a foid showing her tits
>>541502866we are not all rich as dutchanon said..., on the other hand consider that you've made us spent billions in foraging a war between slavs that we shouldn't have got involved with, fucked us in the ass with russian sanctions, fucked us for oil which you have tons of and prices just keep going up ecc...spawned several terror groups in the middle east, fucked libya up so we got migrants for the foreseeable future. You think we benefit from this """partnership""" and I think the exact opposite, let's agree to disagree. At this point I hope you gtfo though
>>541503016Congress specifically passed a law that the president cannot withdraw from NATO without congressional approval.
Good, fuck off
>>541502866kikes are always here in full drove to push D&C at the slimest occasion. How about you kys?
>>541503219It's not an assumption. Read the article. That thing I said EUcucks love to do? You're doing it right now. Thanks and good jerb.
>>541503465>just reducing troop numbersTrump can reduce and close any basesThe EU is not getting the message about stopping in Ukraine, this will force their hand
>>541502505It's a reduction in troop numbers, it's just performatively punishing Europe for refusing to be human shields in the Iran war. It's not leaving NATO, Trump has cucked out yet again
>>541502505>Its actually happeningNothing in your link says that. You are just like a woman, spreading rumors as a hobby. Kill yourself you fucking retarded cunt.
>>541503494ndaa, I know but he can reduce presence at any base he wants or even close it All without approvalHe only needs 2 thirds to pass it in congress
>>541503465that little amount of troops was entire US contribution to NATO. European countries contributed more to fighting US wars than US defending Europe.
>>541503458it really is, isn't itnot sure if theyre bots, shills or zombiesbut the fact you cant tell anymore is enough to flush it all down the gutter
>>541502505too good to be true, you will do nothing
>>541503529>>541503596bla bla blathe US is not leaving NATOend of storyfake and gay
>>541503529>russia goodboi russia dindu nuffinRussia lost this war they started. That is why shitskins like you are seething, sukhdeep.>>541503572Look at his flag. It's a jeet being paid rubles to shill for russia and against white people and Europe.
>>541503572kekJust because you cant figure it out, thats not my problemIts fucking obvious, the Admin is pissed that the EU is using its assets against Russia but refused to help in IranIts not complicated
>>541503505>D&C brownie with a vpn or on vacationYou will never be human.
>>541503442You notice how there is no orders of impeachment and MSM has shut the fuck up about the deportations, ICE, and how orange man bad. He is doing what Israel wants so the negative press dried up mostly. It's now just people seething in twitter.
>>541503529They will never close any bases. They're used to keep control of Europe and protect Israel. They will reduce numbers by 5000 of the 80k total deployed in Europe and pretend like this is somehow a big deal.
>>541502657top kekand yeah Trump will chicken out of this like always, wonder what the stock pick was this time
>>541502505You debunked you "happening" yourself idiot.>review>options>believeGet lost
>>541503710nah, not sureI think this is a lot bigger, the spending the Pentagon needs to do now is massive, for re-armingIts biggest costs are bases like this, they draw down and they free up a huge amount of funds without having to go to congress
It's all just pretend. The US deepstate is gays and they are still 200% involed in the war in ukraine, which they started
>>541502505It won't happen but I wish it would. It was a mistake to join in the first World War, and it was a mistake to join in World War 2. Europe's problems are not ours to fix.
>>541503252Devastating truth nuke. Also, expected costs to servicing state debt in the US (the price of tax cuts for Jews): $1.17 trillion. But this thread will be chapter x^n about Americans believing their defence spending is all for the sake of Europoors and that we somehow live off of it.
>>541502958We're spending to keep Europe from having real militaries, thereby maintaining regional stability, and making them trade in US bonds. The American empire operated on defense agreements, that we can't honor now ask the Gulf states, and our debt, which is killing us.
>>541502958Europe hasn’t been an ally since the end of the Second World War. You’re a protectorate and we can’t afford to protect you any longer.
>>541503744Again, it all makes perfect senseThe US literally flew the head of the CIA to MoscowVERY publiclyDidnt tell the EUHad a meeting and now the US is having a high level meeting with the EU after the factThe EU has been using Trump, thats how he sees it, didnt help in Iran but want all the help in UkraineUse some common sense
>>541503641>US is not leaving NATOIm not disputing that claim, Im just saying that if it did, it wouldn't change much. US would come up with 1000 excuses if article 5 was triggered by european nation and NATO was always more useful to US cause US constantly blackmails european nations that it will leave NATO if they won't join wars in middle east while US not even once had to defend Europe.
>>541502505> Start proxy war with russia> Bomb european infrastructure> Heavily involved in local genocide> Stop helping in defensive war> Start offensive war in middle east> Blow your arsenal, weakening global position> Cry like a baby, ppl don't join into your attack when nato is defensiveIncredible.
please nuke us
Also, any non-sharting, drooling 87IQ retard stuck in this hell-hole. Take a day or 2 to work through yockey’s ‘the enemy of Europe’. Much Will be elucidated and you will have a clear view of the world.
>>541503903>You’re a protectorate and we can’t afford to protect you any longer.more lithuanians died fighting US wars than americans died protecting Europe. And that's 1 lithuanian.
>The Trump administration has long signaled it intends to reduce the military resources it devotes to Europe, with the expectation that NATO allies will carry a greater share of the burden than they have historically.>Trump has also fumed that European NATO allies have long relied on U.S. security guarantees while providing inadequate support for the Iran war. Accusations include that some allies failed to grant basing and overflight access to U.S. warplanes, or did it too slowly.Lol he is going to do it
Very basedAmifaggots finally get the fuck out of EuropeYour masters need you to die for them in Iran
>>541502505>american troops leaving>punishmentOh no, how are they going to punish us next?Yankee go home.
>>541503943There is a happening post like this every week for almost 2 years now.Don't believe anything the US says until it really has happened. They are compulsive liars and fiercely proud of it.
>>541503943btw he's not helping Ukraine in any other way than selling them weapons anyways
>>541504054He's been banging this drum since Nov 2024 and has done absolutely fucking nothing about it. Congress is about to be retaken by the Dems who will prevent anything from happening. Always bet on Trump doing nothing
>>541504168You are kiddingThe EU has been using pretty much all US infrastructure, logistics, comms, intelligence, satellites, the whole works
>>541504188>still believing anything Trump says in the current yearPeople really have to be demented
>>541504188congress cant do shit about numbers or base closuresdo you really think Trump is not going to bear a grudge for what happened in IranIts his own fault but you know what he is like
>>541504326Congress controls all this stuff in the normal world. The only reason Trump has all this power is because Mike Johnson's congress has intentionally ceded it to him. That ends after the midterms.
>>541504273Have been using? Like in the past? For free or for money?
>Announcing the review in June, Hegseth chided some "free-riding" NATO allies and said the review would ensure U.S. military "access, basing, and overflight are clearly delineated.">The Terms of Reference go further.Beyond calling for reliable U.S. access, basing and overflight rights, called ABO, in allied NATO nations, they examine space, cyber and "intelligence architectures and infrastructure that enable U.S. global power projection," the document says.This is what I am talking about, sales are all well and good but this shit costs a lot of money, both Hesgeth and trump are pissed that the EU didnt jump into IranThink about it, some EU states even forbade them to use their countries, both of them are characters that wont accept that
>>541503017>will not lift a finger about it.not like would either
>>541503252Americans don't understand what NATO even is. They believe just because the USA wants beef with China and war with Iran we are expected to follow their nonsense and just because they overspend on their military for the sake of israels defence that we should do the same.
Why isn’t Israel part of NATO but fucking Turkey is? Seriously it’s a absurd
>>541504363for freethats why Trump is pissedthe Pentagon has essentially handed him a massive bill for Iran, he draws down in the EU, it pretty much takes care of it because they dont have to replenish the stocks there that got diverted to IranIf they EU wants it all replaced they are going to have to pay for it
>>541504661That's just not true. You talk about war profiteering not aid.
Poland's next at any-ANY- fucking cost.
>>541502505For fucks sake, he's been talking about leaving for months now. Bet the orange bitch boy will TACO again.
>>541504740Not accurate. The 2024 US aid package ran out in Sep 2025
>>541504655Why would be when Israel gets all the priority benefits without paying a cent?
>>541504586that is the true nature of nato. a judeoamerican extortion racket
>>541502505US is leaving NATO so Israel can attack Turkey and the US can join in on bombing it
before or after the supposed impending (((russian))) attack?
>>541504655so israel is allowed to attack the countries obviously
>>541504740I am talking about US stocks in the EU, they took shitloads to Iran and if the US draws down in the EU it frees itself of any obligation to put these stocks back, nothing to do with sales etcIt just means the US doesnt have to replenish its own stocks in the EU and can focus on its domestic stockpiles
Wait are we going to find out if the euros who kept saying "we will overthrow the EU if americans leave their bases" were full of shit?
>>541502505The usa doesn't want to get nuked if the EU gets into a hot war with russia.
Ive decided to have a turkey sandwich and jalapeño potato chips for lunch.
>>541502505This should have happened a long time ago. Thanks for staying, have a nice trip home. Also... moving troops out of Europe =/= leaving NATO.
>>541502505LET IT BURN
>>541502505Article 5 is a nonbinding clause. Enjoy your Russian war that you and your Dutch Bilderberg faggots started. Freeloading homos.
>>541505061we're literally paying more than you per capita btw
>>541502790You're the same as Israel though Europe is a museum preserved by America in the same way Israel is, you're not actual countries capable of survival . Crazy how europoors complain about Israel and miss that they're identical to Israel.
>>541504784Youll pay for the substandard defense force, and youll like it. Also no more Russian gas. Freeloader.
>>541505061You are jewish
>>541502505Fuck Trump and Fuck Israel.
>>541505061The EU stealing 200 billion from Russia is reason enough for saying they are the agressor and nullifying article 5
>>541504876>>541504894These anons know. Disarm israel, defund israel, outlaw child genital mutilation, nuke israel.
>>541505093Israel pulls your strings, not the other way around. Europe was a better place before American influence and that is coming to an end thankfully.
Notice the EU stopped thier piracy after that Russian warship fire shots off
>>541502827why should anyone "step up" for some jewish bullshit war. FUCK KIKES
>>541502505Based hope the EU crashes and burns after this. You mutts have your work cur out for you now Iran tomorrow turkey
>>541502599>$30.8 trillion>only had enough material to wage war against Iran for 14 daysKek you're being robbed blind you fucking dumbasses
>>541503017Cope harder, EU is more than enough to flatten Russia and make whoever be still left in this territory eternal slave to our master race
>>541505271
Ok so when are you leaving? tomorrow? Please leave tomorrow.
>>541502505It's time for you and Germany to close American military bases on your soil and kick mutt troops out of Europe and rearm. We're destined to form our own alliance, anally rape Russia and watch Muttland collapse like the Ussr in slow motion
>>541505061If American defence spending would have been zero this year (would have been nice to skip the Iran war), your deficit this year would still be over a $trillion. Since America is all-theater, Europe is at best a small percentage of power projection costs, but even that’s doesn’t matter. I don’t see how any of this discussion makes a lick of difference for ordinary Americans, so long as you don’t radically change the way things are done internally. And why the fuck is Heggset asking for $1.5trillion as a defence budget? Europe certainly didn’t ask for that.
>>541502599Those trillions should be going to Isreal and Trumps kids instead!!
>>541505093Kek this nigger thinks the US controls Israel and not the other way around
GET THE BURGERS OUT OF EUROPE ALREADY.>>541502599This mutt subhuman retarded brainded moron forgot to calculate all countries vs the US. US is a larger country vs small countries in europe.Im tired of your dumasess stupidity.
>>541505098Nice AI slop, israeli scum.
>>541505339broEvery EU country has neglected spending on defense, relying on the US presenceIf it goes, which it will, it could be the end of the EU because every state will have to either start paying massively into defense EU wide or start locally, either way its going to cost a shitload of money
>>541502657Actually our president CAN exit treaties without congressional support. Diplomacy and international policy is one of the few powers available to the Executive Branch of our government that has little oversight from the other branches. He can cancel any treaty at will with no say from Congress. Even if he couldn't, he could redeploy our troops such that the outcome (leaving NATO) is de facto true, if not de jure true.
>>541502657They can easily remove all the troops and not give you any money and just be in the club in spirit, can't they?
>>541505364its to replace munitionsa lot of them came from US stocks in the EUthis draw down means the US doesnt have to replace them, huge saving
Don't care.If NAFO falls, don't care.If the US squirms and cries, don't care.If a global war happened and billions die, don't care.Overall.. Don't care.
>>541502866There won't be a conscription. Everyone have given up, that's why they are race mixing. Race mixing is a sign that a people has given up and dont care about their society anymore. Globalism is another sign.
>>541505339Hans you don’t even have enough ammo to put into rifles. you use broomsticks on exercises my country is even in a worse shape. And we are being genocided by gigantic African hordes the EU is inviting in and an economic collapse away of a civil war all over Europe. Stop smoking crack te EU is a disaster and needs to go away allready experiment failed
>>541505676>Hans you don’t even have enough ammo to put into riflesUntrue. Since Rheinmetall has converted old factories, Germany has become the largest ammunition producer in the world overtaking the US.
>>541505061>Article 5 is a nonbinding clauseThis is true. I remember when Russia did the Novichok assassination hit the UK in the late 2010's with our then PM Theresa May publicly stating that this was an attack on a NATO county. Obviously nothing came of it, not even a tit-for-tat retaliation from NATO. I knew then that Article 5 was largely more bark than bite.
>>541505815I think all it states is that the countries have to respond, since that could be a strongly worded letter its all bullshit
>>541505797>30.000 Artie shells a year are produced in the entire EUNigga Russia uses 30.000 Artie shells a day not even talking about the pouring of billions into obsolete weapon systems like we are doing now it’s a joke army only french has a semi decent army in Europe t did invest in Rheinmetal because i knew bags would be pumped
>>541502558he wouldn't inform the EU. it is CIA business.
>>541503897U gonna be pissed when u realize Euros is pegged to the dollar. Kekaroo!
>>541502505Good fucking riddance. Europe will rise again.
>>541503946Brah, denmark was the country that sent the most soldiers to the middle east per capita, and they still only sent like a hundred measly dudes. Europe had an extremely small presence in the middle east.
>>541502505This is so Israel can attack Turkey.
This is too well coordinated with US going to bumfuck nowhere Iran to shit it self out of ammo, farm 100 excuses to not help EU on the first sign of trouble and now just say Russia can have whatever it wants.Poland's just supremely fucked lol
>>541505968its a bit morethese things are usually very private, he could have got there and back without anyone knowingbut its deliberately been put front and center the US wanted people to know
>>541505090Yeah because youre retarded and terrified of muh heckin Russia. You are an irrelevant third world country propped up by a real military, nothing else. Go extract some gas and prep your bitches for their next insemination. Also maybe fix your Indian problem. Its embarassing. At least youre speaking English.
>>541505339> EU is more than enough to flatten RussiaWe don't have even one combat ready brigade at full strength.We wouldn't last a week. Russia would beat us with nothing but shovels.
>>541506032kekwith whatthey cant even secure 10km outside there own border and have a massive internal recruitment crisis
>>541505797And the German industry is collapsing btw you can thank America for that by blowing up ns2 so will advise to rotate your German stocks in German companies into something physical.
>>541505948>obsolete weapon systemswhich?
>>541505102The Rothschilds live in London bruv.
>>541505948And Germany is now producing 1.1 million artillery shells anually.Output for armored vehicle and tank autocannons has more than quadrupled.I frankly don't care how many shells Russia uses daily to bomb the shit out of empty fields. We've all seen the pictures.What's factual is that you're wrong.
>>541502505All the breeders depend on the judeo-masonic government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
>>541505815You never invoked article 5.It was also your own mi6 false flag faggotry going on there just like with Navalny. Same narrative as chemical weapons in Iraq and Syria btw.
>>541506100>kek>with whatThe US
>>541505968Of course he would. Britain is part of 5 eyes and all that info gets sold to the EU
>>541505975So will the confederacy pardner! Yeehaw! The Albanian-Croat-Estonian mega alliance lives on!
>>541502505weren't euros threatening to kick out the US from NATO? isn't this good for them? now they can fight russians as much as they want.
>>541506236kekerinoThe US cant do shitThey are so low on munitions that Trump has to sign off on them being used
>>541505797How much of that goes to the German millitary and how much is exported?
>>541502657enjoy defending ukriane with your vast military funds and booming munitions industry kek
>>541506173in my opinion it doesn't really matter how much russia produces because i don't believe russia has any desire or intention to attack the EUi'm more worried about america and certain EU members and britain doing something
>>541506236alsogoing up against one of the most advanced drone programs in the world isnt going to end wellthis shit with Israel and Turkey is all bullshit from the Israeli election trying to show how hard they are
>>541506218>You never invoked article 5.Well, that just shows it was nothing but theatre from my country's establishment. I was unaware that they didn't invoke Article 5.
>>541502505What benefit is there to NATO? It's like American blood and money and European territory. Russia is broken and defeated. The only thing it has left is nukes. If we leave NATO and Russia snags the baltica it's gonna look fucked. Trump will go down as the worst president ever by a factor of ten.
>>541506144Tanks. helicopters. gravity bombs. Basically the entire conventional Cold War forces and doctrine are obsolete. This is the age of drones a fleet of DAF trucks with a drawer system full of diffrent purpose drones would be an upgrade to this. It’s like ww1 when the machine gun was invented we know the old way of war is over
>>541502505>NATO allies worry that the six-month review, announced in June, will lead to large-scale cuts to the roughly 80,000 U.S. forces across Europe and punish countries that President Donald Trump believes failed to support the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran.Close Ramstein. Punish them back. Lets see how they do without it.
>>541502505Good.It's time Britain started acting like an island. Hope the EU gets invaded.
>>541505503OkLess money for rapefugees then
>>541506521>What benefit is there to NATO?It's a gigantic meat shield for America's Arctic flank. It's makes smaller European countries less prone to invasion. Win win. The problem is some Americans confuse their own imperial ambitions with NATO, while some Europeans think they can push Russia around. Both are stupid.
>>541506628honestly, getting rid of the EU as soon as possible would be to your benefit, you are the only thing keeping it together and its not going to get better
>>541506097We can send rapefugees in prigozhin style. Oh you're chimping out? The first chimp gets the bullet so other chimps will get the message. Just get some barrier troops. I bet there's plenty of Germans who'd be willing to take on this role
>>541506173> Annual production capacity for 200,000 artillery shells, 1,900 tonnes of explosive as well as rocket engines and warheadsThey are not producing 1.1 million shells this is from their own website still an impressive 10x increase
>>541502505
>>541505327>Kek you're being robbed blind you fucking dumbassesIt's funny when comparing to overpriced Euro stuff what money actually gets you.Air defence:>PAC-3 3.6-8 million $ per missile, 1.1-2.5 billion $ per battery. Efficiency 2-5% interception rate against fast targets. Range against airplanes +70km to +120km depending on PAC-3 variant.>SAMP-T (Aster 30 family), 2-2.5 million per missile, 500-600 million $per battery, range +150km for Aster NG, 120km for Aster 30.>IRIS-T SLX $0.7-1.0 Million per missile, 180-250 million per battery range up to 80km (Exceeding the PAC 3 CRI missiles which cost almost 4 million each)And both Aster and IRIS-T are proven to be more accurate in Ukraine.And one must also remember that NATO is not about protecting Europe, it is about vassals paying and providing troops to the US for American wars all over the world.Naturally the empire which is scamming itself will pay more, but the vassals are paying the empire for the privilege of being forced to buy overpriced garbage.
>>541506173And why tf should I care about Ukraine or the entire butthurt belt? It’s good for my portfolio but for my country it’s fucking bad people are going broke
>>541506538you're an imbecile
>>541502505Europe never gave a simple "thank you" so now we are pulling out. Send your migrants to fight Russia kek
>>541502505Good riddance
>>541506974Its the commission, they are fucking idiotsThey are playing war on some one elses dollar, not one of them has anything remotely approaching military experience, to the extent they couldnt comprehend that muntions are finitenow the well has driedthey have fucked it up massively
>>541506922It’s the truth and it’s the future and I’am investing in it. It’s like the aircraft carrier like yemen proofed even a third world shithole can now go up against a top tier military and win. Do the hate the player hate the game
>>541506700right, because you're doing so peachy outside of EU, constantly begging for trade benefits.go fuck yourself and your cancer ridden king
>>541507138Hint 3D mobile Moduler drone production
NATO was supposed to be disbanded after the end of WW2. But the yanks realised that the war utterly destroyed Europe and made them vulnerable to a financial manipulation and political control. So that is what they did. From the Cold war to the Ethnic cleansing in Ukraine of the nationalities on whose clay Israel is seeking to establish an Israeli war colony from which to usurp Europe's energy trade, and realise every jews dream: kill non-jews for their benefit. Worse, it has become entertainment. Remamber that it was the US breaking the NATO treaty and enroaching on Russia's territories with military bases and biolabs on their doorstep through the kike rat caricature who usurped Ukraine's democratic process through a coup. A colony of death created by a rabid religious nutbag factory of self-appointed chosen ones of an invisible real estate agent in the sky, warmongers, usurers and pedophiles. It wasn't enough for the US to financially castrate itself for the continued support of the jewish fantasy state of Israel. When the jews are realised the US was too broke to subsidise their luxury summer camp, they found in Biden the perfect Alzheimer’s riddled tool through whom to instigate their next land grab. But now that they have secured a murder of wealthy bitter feminists culled from the D-list of mostly unsuccessful aristocratic merchant families such as the von der Leyens, they don't need the US any more. They think themselves secure through the drop pit of predators who replaced the public servants that once made up the EU bureaucracy. And so they send the US golem lurching, running away from yet another badly botched attempt at making war. And that is why they will fail. While the US is a fake three dollar bill these days, it still has a handful of functional modules from which to drain it's sustenance. While the EU has... a broken Germany. I hope to be able to see it's collapse in my lifetime. No NATO is only the beginning.
>>541507268The EU is cancer my Slav leech
>>541502599Meaningless statistic considering that the Turks have the 2nd largest army in NATO. Euros cheat by counting money invested in infrastructure as "military spending"
>>541507373NATO is the US we are as much of an “ally” as Gaul was to Rome occupied since 45
>Organization to contain Germany and keep the Eastern bloc out of Europe is getting disbanded.Don't threaten me with a good time.
>>541502751USA has the worlds most advanced military industrial complex. It's a super power economically, diplomatically and militarily. EU cucking out and buying American has long been great for USA. You guys are like the Turks in the Ottoman empire lol. But yeah, we steal all your money even though your healthcare issues is 100% a political decision and having more accessible healthcare would COST YOU LESS. The middle men lobbyists are fucking winning and don't want to lost their pound of flesh and you turn your hate towards the Europoors who buy all your shit to prop up your empire? Sad.
Once the master leaves forever, the starving dogs will rip each other apart, and the wolves will finish off the rest.
>>541507138ok military doctrine expertwhy haven't russia and ukraine abandoned tanks and helicopters in favor of more drones if they're obsolete?
>>541507374fuck you too and your rapist Epstein "aristocracy"I'll laugh my ass off if NATO disintegrates during your guy Rutte's watch.
>>541507084The EU collapsing would be a very good thing for native europeans will pop a champagne bottle when it finally happens
>>541503946It would change a lot. Eurofags couldn't agitate for war as much as they do, they only get away with it because they genuinely think the mutts would swoop in to save them if they successfully managed to provoke Russia into attacking a member state. The mutts obviously know they wouldn't, but Euro elites need a serious reality check that's short of a mushroom cloud going up in one of their capitals. Look at the absolutely chiahuahua-esque delusion with which the Bongs and Baltoids make grand proclamations promising Russia's total destruction. Look at how badly the US was btfo by Iran. The Eurocrat belief in NATO magic needs to end before they get us all killed.
>>541507693Me too hope they blame him and throw him under the bus that fuck destroyed my country.
>>541507373Awesome post.
>>541502505They're leaving NATO because Pissrael will attack turkey (a nato country)
>>541502505When did nato ever exist to begin with
>>541507373NATO didn’t exist until 1949 you retard
>>541507629What new tanks and helicopters have even been developed or are in the pipeline for any countries? Most new US copters in development are tiltslop, Armata is like the carbon nanotube of tanks it never leaves the proving ground, dozens of other helicopter and tank programs were cancelled even before tank turrets started getting sent into orbit by drones.
>This time for real!!I believe it when i see it.
>>541507629they did abandon both tanks and helicopters thoughRussia has same helicopters as counteroffensive defense and that's it.
>>541502505great, now the whole world will hate us just like Israel wants. dismal future lies ahead
>>541507693Because that’s the weapons they have in storage we on the other hand don’t have those reserves might as well build up the army of the future instead of investing in obsolete tech and that’s a 10 to 20 year process
>>541502505>worry that the six-month review, announced in June, will lead to large-scale cuts to the roughly 80,000 U.S. forces across EuropeNo one is actually upset about this right? Everyone hates zogbots
>>541507907Potato potato
>>541507991no they haven't, they still use tanks and as far as i know russia still uses their helicopters for indirect fire support so they don't get raped by aa and i saw a video of a helicopter shooting down a drone
>>541506173Bullshit faggotThis is from March 2026They havent even built the plants to mak the shells yet>With four new facilities announced, billions in committed investment, and a bold revenue target of €14 to €14.5 billion by 2026, the company is navigating the largest capacity increase in its long history.>https://primaryignition.com/2026/03/18/rheinmetalls-manufacturing-surge-a-strategic-expansion-in-artillery-production/
>>541507268dont believe the hypeWe are much better of out of the EU, its was ok in times of plenty but now we are heading in financial difficulty its going to go downhill fast
>>541507629Oops whas meant for you>>541507693
>>541508019>>541507629
>>541508133You are a stupid nigger
>>541508281REEEE they gave the occupation force another name that makes it different
>>541508150both countries totally abandoned tanks and helicopters as offensive toolit's a fact> t-they shot a dronewhoa. impressive
>>541508319The Allied Powers of WW2 evolved into the United Nations. What makes you believe it was ever intended to be disbanded. You don’t even know when NATO was formed. Kill yourself for being a retarded jew golem that furthers the destruction of Europe through your incompetence. Faggot.
>>541508159There is a special class of retard that sees an article where a MIC company promises to reach X target by Y date and then immediately interprets that to mean that the products are already on their way.Polish, Austrian, and German flags seems particularly susceptible to this belief, they're always bragging that they're producing things that don't exist just because money has been moved around.
>>541502505This is good for Europe actually, thank God.
>>541508622don't know about that. last time Murica went isolationists we've got WW2..
>>541503108> What was gained from this?Suffering of the yellow goym
>>541508484Cool now gtfo Europe plz
>>541508572I think they create these articles so the Kiev propaganda outlets can put them in print to deliver to the front lines >F16s are on the way!They sent broke down planes>Starlink was shut off it willl be over soon!The next month Russia launched record drone strikes>Patriot plans will turn the tide!>Stormshadow plans will turn the tide!The list goes on and on
>>541508797Kill yourself plz
>>541508872I swear on the MacGods I’am gonna do it!
>>541503032So what you’re telling me is that you’re 10 years old
>>541502505Good riddance kek
>>541508914Good, livestream it too.
>>541508484>You are a Jew if you don't support the US the most jewd country on earth
>>541509093Pervert
>>541506974You are weeks away from bankruptcy. We will buy your nukes and f22 for pennies soon. Your special forces guys will join the new EU legion by 2030.
>>541502505Not sure if that helps them.After the recent stuff I am no longer sure what their goal is.
>>541509124always gets the kek out of me
>>541509245Its a combo of thingsIran used up a shitload of the US missile stock, a lot of which was drawn from the EU, if they dont replace it they save shitloadsAdmin is still pissed the EU didnt join in but are still using all their infrastructure for UkraineA few countries didnt allow them to land planes but are sending weapons to UkraineThe US could really do with Russian oil being back on the market to keep prices down
>>541505346Painful twatter coal.
>>541504354>congress controls all this stuffkek you USAID trannyshills have no idea what you're talking about
>>541502599This is so fucking weird to me man. How can you amerilards, who come to a politics forum so fucking dumb man? You literally believe a retarded senile pedophile sacrificing your troops for israel, than trying to think for 5seconds. The Nato is your fucking biggest asset you retard. Of course you invest probably the most in it, because it's YOUR most important thing. The nato is the reason, no one goes in for a 9/11 anymore or does any other shit against you. The nato was the reason you guys didn't get invaded and the nato is the fucking reason your influence over other countries went up. Your current administration is literally trying to burn every bridge and everything that made you a superpower. It's like you guys are speedrunning your downfall and all that for what? So some fatass rapist can fill up his bags.
>>541506521>Trump will go down as the worst president ever by a factor of ten.He's already far exceeded that.....
>>541502505Can anyone explain why we need 80 THOUSAND troops in Europe permenently? Their population is larger than ours, and they have no internal enemies to suppress.
>>541508404>t-they shot a drone>whoa. impressiveIt was over Russia for even more kek.
>>541505164Without American money both you and Israel do not exist, you're irrelevant museums kept alive out of pity. Your existence is anti darwinism.
>>541509745anonits a fucking paper tigerevery standing military is nowthe US has far more intelligence on what has happened in the middle east, the bases in the EU are no different, they are sitting ducks for dronesso why keep spending shitloads on arming them, combine that with the horrific cost of replacing the muntions spunked in Iran and it becomes hard to argue against
>>541510057>Without American money both you and Israel do not exist,Rumours of our demise have been greatly exaggerated.
>>541510030legacy warfareand a deterrent, not much good now in the drone age
>>541510132Hardly.https://youtu.be/Gru2EDJvj9Q?si=6ItgzxGd86s5Ffoz
>>541509745>nato was the reason you guys didn't get invadedInvaded by whom exactly faggot?Funny how all ukraine supporters are all leftist faggots. There was a ukrainin support rally in DC last week and only 1 troon showed up.
The whole deal if anyone bothers to look back was for the US to assist in weakening Russia. After they had done their part, they were going towards the indo pacific wich is going to happen very soon. The Iran war was once again a lie that Israel managed to drag the Americans into. It was not ment to happen since Iran has never been a threat to the US. So now they are stuck in the middle east once again, and need to rotate military towards that region and around China. It was never ment for the US to fight against Russia, that was Europes job. Why the money spending suddenly happened.The US will contribute with intelligence in Europe but thats it and that has been said before also.
Retards actually believe that once the US leave EU somehow EU will be in danger after thousands of years of wars. K e k
>>541510497That is what Call of Duty games and Hollywood movies do to brainwash people. What almost all Americans dont understand is that Europe has been in a constant warzone with Russia every day since the Soviet Union fell in form of various attacks except missiles and military invasions. Its not like this happened right after Ukraine was invaded lol.
>>541502505Good. The Europoors are all dying from the heat anyways.
>>541510300>Invaded by whom exactly faggot?do you think the cold war consists of bunch of proxy wars, because russia forgot about the border or something like that?
>>541503505hope you learn russian fast
>>541502505What is the problem? Nato is decencies alliance. America wages an offensive war in Iran. Things just don’t fit together.
>>541510942>muh cold warI will get you are decended from German commies.
>>541510300Nato invaded eastern europe next day USSR collapsed. It couldn’t do shit up to that point and everything was a total fail the whole time.
>>541514129Basically it started to behave like it won when no one was actually fighting against it.
>another thread of chest thumping yurotards writing fanfic about America's imminent collapse and their upcoming onesided war with Russia because their Yurofaggot leaders are deebry gomcerned about a report being prepared for Hegseth regarding troops stationed in Europe>they can't decide between hating them and feeling threatened if they leaveNiggers
