ITT: we discuss how the rank 1 Mordhau player designed a functioning Universal Basic Income system, where the participants provide value as viewers of livestreamswww.youtube.com/watch?v=5SVeV2-zfYA
>>541511090>lives with his mom>designed a functioning Universal Basic Income system based on internet buxkek
British government should control what brits shit into the internet
>>541511090Get the fuck out of here stouty, your game sucks and I will ft10 you to prove you suck bitch. Meet me on freds duels in ten mins.
>>541511381coming
>>541511381pull up, pussy
>>541512171he no showed
>>541513432Im on right now, washed my car. Lets go bitch dallas. My username rhymes with omusfogs
>>541514384Im watching freds dallas dog. Get on my son
>>541514590coming
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>>541514943Looks like i need some stouty coaching
>>541515053many such cases!
>>541515072I will goto your website if you make out with me
>>541511090most raped kikeslave
>>541516176already did on the server>>541516301be quiet chuddy
>>541511090fuck i had a dream 2-3 weeks ago pondering about thisgreat to see it becoming reality. I dont know how sustainable this is but with how fast global players are burning money i feel like the world lost all inherit value anyway economically. So now you can directly pay with your attention, presence or bandwith and earn money. Hope this kicks off
>>541516510a good omen
>>541511090mordhau is babby mode compared to warband
>>541511090COMMUNISM IS THE WORST
dead game, be ashamed
>>541517432my ubi system is based on a free market
>>541517493the devs should be
>>541516420No i meant in real life, i want to run my hands through your bowl cut and whisper in your ear “coach me stooty, coach me..”
>>541519455Stouty im drink tell me im better than crush arleast you slut
>>541522021>>541519455???
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>>541511090>rank 1 Mordhau playerMeans so much in a dead game, but he's been doing it since it was "alive" (It was never alive).>UBI..for streamingSo already this is not UBI, good job. >No no streaming isn't a jobCorrect, it also isn't "basic income"
>>541525588>UBI..for streamingNo, for watching livestreams, rn I'm being paid $0.10 to watch a stream
>>541511090>Universal Basic Income>provide value or elseThat's not UBI
>>541526045The argument made in the essay is that a job that anyone can do, globally, creates in effect the same outcomes as UBI.Proponents of UBI (according to Wikipedia) argue that the main benefits would be:>Provide competition to the job market (salary + better conditions, e.g. WFH)>Potentially replace bureaucratic means-tested welfare>Reduce financial pressure, allowing people to find work that suits themHow do any of these outcomes differ? (Whether the free market rate gets to a consistent level that can be considered "basic" is a separate debate)
>>541525805Oh I see even worse. Now imagine when indians find out about this magical "UBI" (it's not ubi).>>541526045He made this video because he actually got assmad at a furry vtuber, this will happen again because he continues to play games full of them.
>>541526342>Now imagine when indians find out about this magical "UBI"Yeah they're the target audience, what's the problem exactly?
>>541526524Have you seen what they do with regular shitcoins? Really the concept itself is not only pointless, it capitalizes pointlessness and turns it into an attention based currency. It provides zero competition to the job market because the currency requires no competitive nature to obtain. And yet despite all of this it still doesn't even classify as UBI because it's not a dole or a social security like auto payment that you just obtain for existing. It's not "universal" because it requires you to use a computer and (I'm assuming) have an account all of which does not even require a real identification.the butthurt he has is over the fact it was called a "scam" and rightfully it was mistaken for one because at the end of the day it's a scheme for an armchair warrior to get a reward for what should have already been entertainment for him. And there is the cherry on top, another problem with it is that it turns entertainment into a job. But he doesn't consider streaming or watching shit a "job" because he doesn't value his time, how else did he become the best player in an animation feinting game?
>>541527165>it capitalizes pointlessness and turns it into an attention based currencyThat's... exactly right>It provides zero competition to the job market because the currency requires no competitive nature to obtainYou have to watch the stream still. Someone driving a truck wouldn't be able to do that (without breaking the law)>And yet despite all of this it still doesn't even classify as UBI because it's not a dole or a social security like auto payment that you just obtain for existingThe fantasy of an "effortless" UBI is just that, you'd still need to fill in some form to apply for it, and then check in periodically to prove you're still alive to keep claiming. Mechanically, that's identical to nanodrops>It's not "universal" because it requires you to use a computer and (I'm assuming) have an account Access to a mobile phone and internet is about as wide reaching as it gets; anyone can make a twitch or kick account in a minute>another problem with it is that it turns entertainment into a jobThat's been the case already for centuries
>>541527446>That's... exactly rightWhich is..what makes it not actually a currency. The way it works is actually confusing for me to say it even classifies as a cryptocurrency.>You have to watch the stream still.Which is not in competition. It is literally a zero skill "labor" anyone and everyone does. I know it stresses the point that "anyone can do it", but that's exactly what makes it not competitive. In fact it's anti-competitive, there is no way I can "work harder" or "watch more" in the same amount of time someone else can. Unless of course I gimp it's low security with AI (which will happen because why wouldn't it?).>The fantasy of an "effortless" UBI is just that, you'd still need to fill in some form to apply for it, and then check in periodically to prove you're still alive to keep claiming.No that is all UBI is. Mechanically, nano tries to do this but can't (because you have to waste your time watching MLG videos)>Access to a mobile phone and internet is about as wide reaching as it gets; anyone can make a twitch or kick account in a minuteBut can I make several? Why wouldn't I just have a bunch of poos do that for me?>That's been the case already for centuriesAs in the act of enjoying entertainment, not providing it or paying for it or being paid to do it. IDK if this is a thing where you live but in America the only thing close to this are those complimentary dinner invitations we get in the mail (old people get these the most). You get a free dinner at (generic schlomo's steakhouse) but in order to get it you have to sit there for 2+ hours and listen to some timeshare conman shill you an investment to see who will invest. This is the same thing only instead of a dinner I get an IOU for the steak. I mean I'm sort of impressed with the schlomoery of this guy but he really needs to get his definitions down a bit more proper. He needs to throw a little more jewish subversion to sell the idea of such a non currency currency.
>>541511090have that game in the attic. could never figure out the instructions. many have tried
>>541528433>The way it works is actually confusing for me to say it even classifies as a cryptocurrencyIt's a pre-existing crypto, this is just a platform that utilises it>Unless of course I gimp it's low security with AIIt's a cat and mouse game against botting but we're winning currently>there is no way I can "work harder" or "watch more" in the same amount of time someone else canOf course you can; you can watch for 5 hours a day vs someone who watches for 1 hour>(because you have to waste your time watching MLG videos)Sure, but you have to waste your time filling out forms in the "effortless" version>But can I make several? Why wouldn't I just have a bunch of poos do that for me?Why wouldn't they just do it themselves? The current limit is 2 sessions per household (IP), but you risk being banned if you're abusing that limit to multiwatch>As in the act of enjoying entertainmentYeah that part is new, but being a viewer does provide value, so why not pay them?
>>541511090>what cold possible go wrong?
>>541528814>bot farmswe're winning here currently>bans from platformsplausible deniability with the faucets, anyone can fund them>rapid economic collapseintentional feature
>>541528766>It's a pre-existing cryptoIt's made up as it goes along, random drops like drates bro, it's even in the name. What is the market cap?>It's a cat and mouse game against botting but we're winning currentlyYou can't even tell me that with certainty because anyone can make multiple accounts.>Of course you can; you can watch for 5 hours a day vs someone who watches for 1 hourI can't earn more hourly rate is what I'm saying. This also negates it being a universal basic income because it's not universal whatsoever when everyone is getting different income.>Sure, but you have to waste your time filling out forms in the "effortless" versionAn occasional fuck up, but most of the time direct deposit. Also insured. There is no insurance with this because there is no backing. >Why wouldn't they just do it themselves? How do we tell him?>The current limit is 2 sessions per household (IP), And you live in the country of VPN's....>but you risk being banned And that is another reason why it will never be a currency. Will it ban me for gamer words too?>but being a viewer does provide value, But only when they're clicking on ads, anon. Otherwise no, they don't provide value, technically clicking the ad doesn't even provide value.>so why not pay them?Because they were going to watch anyway. Because it's entertainment and they cannot help themselves from the desire to do this. A desire that does not need money to satisfy it more than it needs the actual entertainment in question. This is why the creator needs something extra soulless and jewish to sell the idea of it to "investors", he genuinely has something dastardly here.
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>>541529500>It's made up as it goes alongNano has been around since 2015, this site launched June this year>You can't even tell me that with certainty because anyone can make multiple accounts.We ban VPNs, so unless they have multiple IPs they can't -- plus we have other detection methods that I won't disclose>I can't earn more hourly rate is what I'm sayingThat's true of any job, no?>This also negates it being a universal basic income because it's not universal whatsoever when everyone is getting different income.There's a single global rate that everyone earns >An occasional fuck upWho says it's an occasional form? What if "effortless UBI" required you to check in every day to make sure you're alive? Or every hour? At that point it's indistinguishable from the mechanics of nanodrops>How do we tell him??>And that is another reason why it will never be a currency. Will it ban me for gamer words too?See above; the currency itself is completely permisionless, the site itself is separate>But only when they're clicking on ads, anonThe most competitive rates for having viewers is currently on Kick, which doesn't currently serve ads>Because they were going to watch anywayUnless they weren't, in which case incentivising them to watch could convert a new fan
>>541511090>tfw no one ever wants to play UBI with me when they come over because they didn't pay attention in school and stopped learning at age 6 (and i know more geography than them)
>>541529716>client sideIt's not client side, the extension also means headless browsers are less of a threat; I'm gunna be honest I'm just the ideas guy but the dev that made it is no slouch and has been straight up demolishing any botters>platform bansTypical AI slop -- it's the same with view botting. You can't ban a streamer that's view botting unless they admit to doing it themselves, because anyone can bot them. Mordhau streamer "Hatchet" routinely gets botted to the top of twitch by some random Russian>economic collapseI meant the collapse of the dollar, the faucets will sustain themselves due to all the various sources of funding (not all of which are economically motivated, e.g. expecting a return). Right now I'm paying people to watch my 22 mins of ads per hour 24/7 Twitch stream, and making about ~$3 profit a day
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>>541529825>Nano has been around since 2015, this site launched June this yearAnd the question I asked didn't prompt that.>We ban VPNsWho is "we"? MI6? Lol, lmao.>plus we have other detection methods that I won't discloseYou have the millions of poojeets shacking in their sandals I'm sure.>That's true of any job, no?LOL NO. There's "skilled labor" which is way more than minimum wage. In fact you can get paid what you want based solely on a contract if that's how your employers set it up. >There's a single global rate that everyone earnsNo, there's a single global rate that every IP earns>What if "effortless UBI" required you to check in every day to make sure you're alive? Or every hour? At that point it's indistinguishable from the mechanics of nanodropsWell thank god UBI isn't a thing amirite? That would be just awful.>See above; the currency itself is completely permisionless, the site itself is separateBut you need an account to earn from watching no? You can exchange/buy with it i get.>the most competitive rates for having viewers is currently on Kick, which doesn't currently serve adsbut makes it's money from the streamers themselves. The money has to come from somewhere, someone actually has to work.>Unless they weren't, in which case incentivising them to watch could convert a new fanBut there's no incentive to do that lol
>>541530541>Who is "we"? The site>But you need an account to earn from watching no? You can exchange/buy with it i get.You need a twitch/kick account to sign in with on nanodrops, but that's it. The money gets sent directly to your wallet to do with what you please>but makes it's money from the streamers themselvesKick operates at a loss currently>But there's no incentive to do that lolYou pay them to watch initially>>541530471We ban bots, the fact there's not 500 "users" rn on the site proves that. Twitch lets me run 22 mins of ads an hour so why shouldn't I do that? Mechanically it's no different to "twitch drops"
Will UBI ever actually become a thing?
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>>541530880 Im outside your moms house in bradford. i got your favourite, greggs cheese and onion bake and a WKD blue let me in hunny bunsOr are tou there with HIM again? IS CRUSH THERE? TELL ME IM BETTER THAN HIM, COACH ME STOOPY, COACH ME DEEP
>>541531853In game items can have monetary value, people tried to bot it day one and they've since been banned, muh advertisers -- good, I hope all ads pull out from twitch
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