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careful what you say here, chuds :^)

https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/ohio-man-threat-president-donald-trump-congressman-randy-fine-florida/507-cc96f806-a3ae-4e8c-9105-af180c96a33c?tbref=hp
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>>541513489
What the fuck did you just say to me, OP?
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>>541513489
By Gookmoot, OP will be beheaded.
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>>541513489
The Big Brother is watching

You will be on your best behavior, goyim :)
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>>541513489
The full complaint is hilarious
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/media/1458941/dl?inline

He used a gmail account with the threat ending in 'Sent from my Iphone'.
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>>541513489
This place was never the same after Chitwood buck broke pol.
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>>541513489
He wasn't behaving himself very well
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>>541513489
man, do not grow a beard if it looks like that
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>>541514484
True. It became smarter with all the retards being in jail.
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>>541514664
French blood.

They have it real thin on the face like that.

All the hairy Frenchmen got killed off in WW1, same with height. Average height of Frenchmen went down like seven inches because of height requirements for conscripts being lowered several times. Literally: "Okay, okay, I guess manlets can be conscripted too, we ran out of tall fools after this last Spring offensive."
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>>541513489
>>541514355
I want to see him do it.
I want to see him get Trump and sheriff Shitwood.
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>>541513938
We’ll deal with you soon.
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>>541513489
Yes, I think I will do that
It's a good advice
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he looks like he came out of a kid's Bible Story book meanwhile miggers look like obese psychopaths from some nightmare no one wants to experience
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>>541514589
Adding you to the list too.
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>>541513489
>this is who calls you “migger” on /pol/

Lmao
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>>541515713
I've been behaving myself, sir.
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>>541515799
Alright
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Your link directs to a youtube channel with no video of said subject.
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>>541513489
Mass surveillance and extreme policing of speech is based now that trump is doing it, you libshit
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>>541513489
It's actually illegal to threaten the president of the USA.
Or even threaten people
Freedom of speech isn't making violent threats.
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>>541516429
kek
screw your opsec I'm going in
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>>541516369
You shouldn't threaten anyone, stop being white trash, can help
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>>541516395
you should go back to england retarded fatass
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>>541513489
The link said he sent them a direct email threatening to 360 quickscope them.
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>>541514355
>gamer email address
GG has failed.
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>>541514355
Did reddit sleuths already figure out who Victim 1 is who reported the edgelord to the police?

It's interesting Harp became a huge news story on August 17-18, and the threat was made in an e-mail to Victim 1 on the morning of August 18, but considering he's addressing Victim 1 as "fatass piece of shitstain" it can't be her. He threatened Victim 1's "entire family" too.

So who, aside from Donald Trump himself, would qualify for the insult?

Odd time for "gamestormguy" to fire off that e-mail at 9:02 AM on a Tuesday, btw. Has gaming gone too far?
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>>541513489
A 23-year-old guy from Lublin Region, Poland posted on a Telegram group about guns, ranting about Poland’s political “duopoly” and asking whether people would join a coordinated attack on top politicians.

Police showed up at his house, searched the place with a bomb-and-gun-sniffing dog, arrested him, and put him in pre-trial detention

The dog reportedly found no weapons or explosives. The guy admitted writing the post and reportedly said he did it “out of stupidity,” claiming he never actually wanted to hurt anyone.

Now he’s facing charges including preparations for extremely serious crimes and up to 20 years in prison.
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>>541516601
No way , you should stop being an animal and learn how to deal with the USA.
Where in the USA is legal to threaten people ? No where.
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>>541513489
leftists trending higher
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>>541516759
Theses are like LA gangsters, top nigger does the talking and little niggers do the violent killings.
Niggers have taken over white people's minds
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>>541513489
lefty loony troony
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IM THREATINING TO SUCK TRUMPS COCK
IM THREATINING TO SUCK CHITWOODS COCK
ARREST ME DADDY I WILL SUCK YOUR COCK.
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>>541516982
Police are the state-hired gangsters that force subordination from the local peasants.

And the state has the monopoly on violence, you go outside the line you are in deep shit, like in a cartel mafia.

In fact first states that were formed historically were working like mafia syndicates, because all Kindgoms were in fact mafias and a criminal scheme of exploitation and fight for resources.
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>>541513489
looks like his face is on the back of his head
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>>541514484
>>541514589
>>541515713
>>541517201
The 1st amendment has never meant you're allowed to talk about murdering our President or beloved representatives like Randy Fine.
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>>541517201
I'm saying don't be a Nigger.
I don't care about history,
I care about nigger behavior
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>>541517448
Do you believe Randy Fine is allowed to live? That is life isn't worthless?
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>>541513489
His head looks like that of a tranny on HRT.
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>>541517484
Chad Fine has done more for helping America than all of pol combined. Down here in Florids he's basically a hero. A lot of people talk about him in the same way they talk about Elvis.
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>>541517456
"big brother is watching don't post stupid shit online because you will go to prison"

And you'll mocked China
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>>541517563
Randy Fine is a fat Jew member of Guardians of Pedophiles responsible for genocide in Gaza.

The amount of deaths and suffering this man caused is hard to even explain. This man is below worthless, he's a literal monster, death isn't a harsh enough of penalty for him.
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>>541513489
Any threat against Trump can be considered credible at this point after all the swinging and missing the leftists are doing.
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>>541513489
he has potential, why does he looksmin with the scraggly pubic terrorist beard
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The very definition of a neckbeard.
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>>541517718
Because he doesn't care about other people's including women's opinion of him
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>>541513578
Fpbp
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>>541517448
It depends on what you're saying. The Supreme Court has been very clear about what the different categories of unprotected speech entail, and they have ruled that those categorical boundaries are historical and fixed (US v Stevens, 559).

A "true threat" requires 1) that the objective content found within the communication be on its face "a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence" and 2) that the speaker had at least some subjective understanding of the communication's nature (recklessness; that is a conscious disregard of a substantial risk that the communication would be perceived as threatening violence and delivering it anyway).

Incitement requires 1) an "intent to provoke imminent lawless action" and 2) "likelihood that such imminent lawless action will occur".

There is also defamation and obscenity, but those don't seem relevant to the conversation. "Fighting words" is another, rarely used category that the Supreme Court hasn't upheld for ~80 years, so it's pretty much dead (though I believe was used in the Shiloh Hendrix case, as lower courts like to violate your rights and just assume you aren't going to be able to get it to the Supreme Court).

So really, it just depends on what this guy actually said. If you're talking about killing Trump or Randy Fine yourself, that's probably at least enough to get a case going. If you're saying it would be good if it happened or that you would like it to happen, that's protected speech.
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>>541517664
Don't care about Gaza, care about America.
Here's some things Fine has done.

>The Florida Immigration Crackdown Bill (2025): As a state senator, Fine fiercely advocated for and helped pass a massive $500 million immigration enforcement bill designed to support federal border efforts and implement a strict state-level crackdown on illegal immigration.

>Undocumented In-State Tuition Repeal: Fine championed and filed key state legislation to strip undocumented immigrants of in-state college tuition rates, successfully pushing to end the millions of dollars in state subsidies previously used to discount their higher education

>Aiding and Abetting Criminal Aliens Penalties (H.R. 4226): Fine introduced this bill to establish strict criminal penalties for interfering with immigration enforcement operations. The law explicitly charges anyone who actively obstructs ICE agents with aiding and abetting

>No Taxpayer Benefits for Illegal Aliens: Beyond the No Welfare for Non-Citizens Act, Fine has aggressively pushed legislation to eliminate federal Medicaid and public assistance loopholes for non-citizens, arguing that taxpayer funds should only be spent on immigration enforcement and deportations
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>>541513489
Yeah, no shit. Don't make death threats. It's illegal
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Please note that these people are the exact same ones where suddenly very concerned about destroying flock cameras and data centers and labeling even basic public surveillance as some kind of demonic crime. It's fairly obvious.
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>>541517981
Do you think you should be allowed to live, if you're abetting the genocide your country is commiting?
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>>541517926
>If you're saying it would be good if it happened or that you would like it to happen, that's protected speech.
Right, but usually people don't get busted even for saying 'I want to kill Trump' otherwise there'd be constant raids of millions of people being edgy. Usually they only bother going after these kind of threats if they think it's a legitimate threat and not just some person online talking shit.
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>>541513489

>internet tough guy
that faggot doesn't even look like he could cut through a steak.
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>>541514484
Reinikainen
>you seriously thought to go out on patrol with that half mute piece of nature?
He asked and other constable with a police dog started to say:
>it is a well trained dog..
To which Reininkainen said:
>I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to this fine dog here.
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>>541518077
By helping secure the border he's preventing a genocide by preventing the displacement and murderous oppression of the citizens of the US by criminal aliens.
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>>541513489
looks like a very sane feller
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>>541518089
No, that's clearly not true. Look at the Chitwood cases. They were clearly motivated entirely by political spectacle. They even had to blatantly defy Supreme Court precedent -- and did so openly and on the record -- to convict the first guy. And they are still trying to defy explicit Supreme Court precedent in that case.
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>>541518169
He's ading and abetting the genocide in gaza

And to prevent genocide of US citizens we need to biologically unalive all US citizens, and I think all of the world would benefit from your non-existence.
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>>541518357
Most peaceful camel jockey.
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>>541518468
Show me one disadvantage of Americans disappearing from the earth

You literally can't.
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>>541518286
>Chitwood cases.

>Tyler Meyer (San Diego, California): A 30-year-old arrested by local police after posting anonymously on 4chan's "Politically Incorrect" board. His posts explicitly stated, "I'm going to shoot Mike Chitwood"

>Cristhian Zapata (Ansonia, Connecticut): A 23-year-old arrested after posting on 4chan, "I WILL KILL CHITWOOD, MARK MY WORDS".

>Tony Stromberg (Calgary, Alberta, Canada): Arrested by the Calgary Police Service after using the online pseudonym "Condor Calabasas" to send repeated death threats via email, phone calls, and X. His messages targeted both the sheriff and his family.

>Matthew Moulton (Walla Walla, Washington): A 45-year-old arrested for sending a lengthy, direct email to the sheriff stating, "I'm going to have to threaten you with death. It's coming".

If you tell the sheriff you're going to kill him then you're a massive retard who deserves to get busted...
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>>541518585
>>541518357
>One advantage
Murica is the only thing preventing butin starting a SMO on you.
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>>541518676
The day America disappears the Israel disappears with it.
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>>541518650
Now the first case.
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>>541513489
you won't arrest me for saying something online, you'll arrest me for killing the officer attempting to arrest me for saying things online.

its your funeral.
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>>541513489
>You deserve 10,000% to be beheaded and have your body paraded through the streets
He's not wrong.
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>>541518767
I agree but show flag, loser.
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>>541518754
That was the first one which got all the press, Richard Golden, just as stupid as all the rest if not more so.

Richard Golden posted the following exact message anonymously on 4chan on 22 February 2023

>"Just shoot Chitwood in the head and he stops being a problem. They have to find a new guy to be the problem. But shooting Chitwood in the head solves an immediate problem permanently. Just shoot Chitwood in the head and murder him."
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>>541518754
The first case set the precedent and then Chitwood's Jewish team of internet defenders started posting Chitwood in hopes someone else will post something that could be a credible threat. Remember, this started because he was locking up people for distributing GoyimTV flyers. In some of the complaints about this obvious infringe on the first amendment somebody posted that "somebody should shoot him in the head."
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>>541514924
lmfao
you sound like a lanklette
i bet you are so lanky you can be tied into a pretzel several times over.
Hey doofus!
Have to hunch down to check the mailbox?
watch your head on the doorframe you lanklette.

Hey lanklette, a satellite is making its rounds,
better not get a concussion!
LOL
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>>541518899
Is the objective content there a "serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence" to be committed by and from the speaker?

If it was, the State and the Judge probably wouldn't have pretended they could still use the "alarming to a reasonable person standard". And of course you have the judge literally saying that the communication is "incitement" on the record at the sentencing hearing and saying that "incitement is a threat" -- which is complete nonsense. They are separate categories of unprotected speech, which the SCOTUS has made clear over and over. But Florida doesn't have an incitement statute.

So they pretended they didn't need to ask anything other than whether the question was alarming to a reasonable person.
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>>541518976
The first case was a result of extremely muddled Florida law.

Florida used something called the "reasonable person standard". Other states did as well. That is, a statement is a "threat" if it is "alarming to a reasonable person".

Now how Florida got there is interesting. Virginia v. Black was decided in 2003, which held that a "true threat" was defined as "a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence". So in 2020, there was a case out of the 7th circuit (Volusia county) called State v. Cowart.

Cowart had sent a snapchat to someone he knew with a picture of an assault rifle captioned with "show and tell at NM on Monday" (NM being his old high school).

The original trial court dismissed the case on the grounds that Cowart had not actually threatened to do anything. It was reversed on appeal because the 5th DCA ruled that the statute (836.10) did not define the word "threat" -- despite Black having been decided 17 years previously. So they pulled the "alarming to a reasonable person" definition from a 1988 Florida case Smith v State. And so that Smith definition defined the element, and therefore the only question in the Cowart case was "whether the State had shown the communication was alarming to a reasonable person".

Well, as you can imagine "alarming to a reasonable person" captures orders of magnitude more speech than "serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence".

So in 2023 there was another DCA case out of Florida, TRW v State. It agreed with a 3rd DCA case out of Florida, Romero v. State, that the Black definition of a threat was the operative definition. But TRW also said that the "reasonable person standard" could survive pretrial, because intent is not a matter for a motion to dismiss.

Of course, this doesn't make any sense at all: you can't define the essential element of a crime using two different definitions at different stages of prosecution.
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>>541519558
Now of course, Counterman v. Colorado cleaned all of this up in June 2023. It abolished the "reasonable person" standard for good as a clear violation of the first amendment. And of course the SCOTUS would let some pretrial carve out of an unconstitutional standard hang on like Florida did in TRW, because they aren't retarded and understand you can't change the essential elements of a crime from one stage of prosecution to the next.
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>>541513489
kek its always a retarded neck beard
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>>541514355
>https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/media/1458941/dl?inline
they failed to redact the name of the complainer, impressive, thought that incompetence was proper of only a third world country.

That antifa guy is a retard really
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>>541513489
He looks like your typical deranged leftist.
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>>541521769
Jacob Hamilton is a gay faggot.
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>>541519072
I don't think arresting him was really a warranted thing, people talk shit on the internet all day long. But why wouldn't someone be able to argue that it's a "serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence'?
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>>541513489
I can still call the orange faggot a faggot that loves kike dick and wish for his death. No calls to violence ;) but I do have a question what are the charges?
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>>541522493
Interstate transmission of threat to injure.

Also shitwood is a faggot and should kill himself.
^in no possible way is that a threat or incitement.
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>>541522362
Because it's not actually expressing any intent to commit the act? Remember, it's the objective content of what is there on the face of communication. Is it actually saying expressing an intent of the speaker to commit the act? If you think it was and you think there is an argument to be made that it was, then why would arresting him be unwarranted? It clearly would be warranted. You're saying contradictory things.

As for why they wouldn't be able to argue it, you should probably ask the State of Florida since they keep avoiding doing it and keep trying to insist that TRW's pretrial exemption for the "alarm in a reasonable person" standard is constitutional.

Probably because the original trial judge admitted on the record it "wasn't an expressed threat" but that maybe it was an "implied threat" (a category of unprotected speech that doesn't exist and under Stevens can't exist) because it was "alarming to a reasonable person".
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>>541513489
what does Musk have to say about this breach in free speech
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>>541514484
With his fake and gay arrests? LMAO faggot.
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Trump is a faggot lol lmao
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>>541513489
Gang sent the letter that his therapist told him not to send
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>>541519558
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>>541518899
>The "In Minecraft" tag was a weak qualifier, and the state's filing included the surrounding racist and antisemitic chatroom context, which would have undermined any "I was just joking" defense.
You did it, /pol/. It was your racist and antisemitic context that caused Golden to fold at the last minute and not go to trial to defend his Minecraft sarcasm. He knew the jury would be crooked and hate him for existing in a space of greasy antisemites and racists.
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>>541513489
Anons, please take a few minutes to clean yourselves up a bit before you go out making your terroristic threats, this is not a good look.
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>>541525458
It still wasn't a threat or incitement, he was simply pointing out an objective fact; if somebody is being a problem and you kill them they can no longer be a problem.

Not guilty.
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>>541513489
Holy based
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>>541525458
No one has ever bothered to address the "in minecraft" part, not the State nor the defense. Because it's not really relevant.

The core issue is that the Florida court used an unconstitutional definition of "threat" to push the case forward because they knew they couldn't win on the proper definition. So they used the old one to fit what they admitted was "incitement" into a "threats" prosecution.

Whether "in minecraft" is there or not, the objective content of the communication does not express an intent to commit the act. It says it would be a good outcome.
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>>541525886
There is a reason the feds wanted nothing to do with the Golden case beyond their initial investigations. It's because the Black definition of a "threat" ("serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence) was binding at the federal level through cases like US v. Cassel and US v. Bagdasarian.
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>>541525993
What Counterman v. Colorado did was make that definition binding on all courts and all statutes in the country regardless of whether a State's statute has defined it or not. It's a Supreme Court case, lower courts do not get the choice. They don't have any say in the matter.
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"Chud" is just a slur for White dudes and Asian dudes who aren't afraid to say no or disagree with people.
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>>541513489
he forgot to say in minecraft
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Lol what a pathetic fucking leftard
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>>541523691
Watch it you dirty down under dog, you think your leaders wont send you to Florida when Chitwood makes the call? Put some respect on that man, he's doing good work taking out the racist trash on this board.
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>>541523691
Better pipe down tough guy or King Chit will give you a one way ticket to Florida.
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>>541513489
>careful what you say here, chuds
is it possible to have The Don take a massive McDonalds Fish Fillet fueled diarrhea dump in my mouth?
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>>541513489
Things will never change until the intelligence agencies, underground military-industrial-complex lairs and defense contractor facilities are stormed and the glowniggers and parasites who work there are executed and the data they collect is leaked to the public so that the rest of these government assets, zogbots, mercenaries, glorified jannies and authority figures can be hunted down and exterminated.
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>>541513489
He's kind of hot
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>>541513489
>chuds
??? bot post.
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>>541513489
Threats are useless unless you’re willing to follow them up with physical and actionable violence. Otherwise you just look like an impotent coward who can’t act upon his word. But if you are actually going to do something? Don’t tell anybody about it. Not even your closest family or friends because they will rat you out. Best bet is to play your cards close to your chest let what happens happen and never take any credit for it. Let the message be enough.
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>>541514484
Shitwood is a psy op. Nobody ever heard about him until he arrested that faggot gold or whatever his name was. When sheriff shitwood first made his presence known and the death threats against him from US flags flooded in it all felt wrong to me. Felt like an Eglin operation. The only people who got caught threatening him were either not part of the psy op or patsies.
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>>541513489
watch your child rape dungeon partying as it will get your ass in federal prison with due process
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>>541517981
Randy is based as fuck.



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