Sometimes I try to make myself believe socialism could work but it never has, it’s just a fucking gay daydream, it’s literally always made things worse every single time. So we’re stuck with faggot capitalism spending 40 hours a week, every week, working some job we hate, until we die in our one and only life. People have to work for society because otherwise all the things you take for granted go away. At least there was a time you could buy a house and provide for a family but now you can’t even do that. There was a time you could say at least you were making the country a better place for your people, but what country and what people? I work construction and all I’m doing is improving houses all day that will eventually be home to deranged niggers and shitskins.I work my 40 hours and I don’t get a family, don’t get a house, don’t get an improving society and I actively get demographically replaced by shitskins on welfare that I pay for. What is the fucking point? I’m too cowardly for guillotines and so is everyone else so what’s the way forward here? Is there an economic system that isn’t either a complete failure (socialism) or an absolute scam (capitalism)?
>>541514160Games, systems, and machines only work when every player, mechanism, and part function together and cooperate, the moment anything breaks the whole thing breaks and it's purely a question of time. Machines are nice because they typically just shut off and/or break immediately if something breaks or wasn't built correctly
>>541514160Nothing has ever worked beside local everything
>>541514160you sound white. Embrace capitalism you lazy and entitled trash.
Economic socialism doesn’t work but ethical socialism does work. Ironically, America has gone the farther in making socialism work. It’s just that it works right now for the express benefit of billionaires’, political donors, and certain “non-profit” organization executives.
>>541514160You just explained to me that’s socialism doesn’t work and then went on to describe democratic capitalism
>>541515049Democratic capitalism? What are you talking about
Communists and Capitalists both hate free market economy with equally fierce, putrid rage.Communists wants to secure the fat of the land to the party elite. Capitalists wants to secure the fat of the land to the share holders. Other differences, of course, as well in abundance, such as in means of production, monetary policy and so on.FREE MARKET is none of that. It is that YOU, yes YOU, could make a decent living by knitting a wool shirt, if you're a woman or a fag. You can't do that in neither communism or capitalism, without someone taking about all the fruits of your labor. In communism, you make the shirt for the commune - for free, or in exchange in bowl of sauerkraut soup. In capitalism, you need to make 60 shirts in a month to cover the basics and then 40 more to cover taxes - pointless and only big factories producing shirts in a bulk makes sense. In free market system, when selling in a local market square, taxation being somewhere between 5% - 10%, a decent living would be absolutely within reach. >as it has been for thousands of yearsMoney is only a tool for trade and a store of value. So you don't have to run loops when trading goods for goods. Getting a pair of shoes can be a nightmare if you start with a bag of salt. You need to find someone who wants to trade shoes (your size) to bag of salt. If the one with shoes wants a new bike instead? You need to figure out how to trade the salt into a bike that you can then trade to get shoes..Henlo?That's why money was invented. So that you can trade money to what you need.Money is not the purpose of life. Goddamit. It is just a tool.
>>541514160That's not true. There are tons of examples of socialist countries outperforming capitalist ones nearby. Cuba outperformed jamaica, china outperformed india, there are other cases too. Soviet union was kind of successful too in many ways.
>>541514160Socialism is what humans had for 10s of thousands of yearsBefore feudalism, before civilization itself, socialism was the default
>>541516468bollocks
>>541516020>>541516653None of the socialist experiments would have survived without free markets supporting them.In USSR and in the rest, there were massive external aid, direct and indirect, then for the normal people there were black markets - free markets - where an assault riffle usually functioned as a currency in back alley deals.
>>541516020>Latinos outperformed niggers>Chinks outperformed jeetsYeah I’m not sure the economic systems were the only factors worth examining in why these specific countries outperformed those specific countries >>541516468I really don’t think so my man but I’m willing to listen to your take on it
>>541514160CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
>>541514160Unironically Catholic social teaching but it's untenable as long as the Hierarchy are freemason poofters (no end in sight).
>>541517103China still has third world status, which provides China massive benefits compared to others. Doesn't have to oblige environmental regulations and such. Furthermore, as a communist state China has virtually unlimited, almost completely free manpower. No need to bother with work safety regulations either and when kids are doing all the heavy work, the cost to feed them is minimal.