This has stopped being funny..
>>541521938When you least expect it.
HAHAHAHAHAABUBBEL MAKE BIG PLOPPFLOPPA SLOPPA SLOP BIG PLOPPHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖHÖ
It's already popping, NVIDIA won't give free GPUs to startups or big companies any more like they used to for FREE and report these as sales as long as they do stock swaps. And Oracle's requests for new datacenters have been denied by the investors. None of the AI companies is making actual money, the revenue doesn't cover the expense even with the trillion dollar cash infusion. And they're all begging for more money already!What hasn't popped is the STOCK bubble or the hardware price bubble. But the AI bubble is popping and the Chinese won't stop that, their shit's all distilled and running on subsidy too.
>>541521938It will never pop since AI is the biggest that has happend after man discovered fire.
>>541521938>only 16GB VRAMlol
>>541521938>expecting prices to go down once a new price average has been established people are used to payingand they should do this, why, out of the kindness of their hearts?are you familiar with this "capitalism" thing
>>541522654>Hurry durrr more vram than 16gig means better performance >Uurghv ***drools*** I need a 5090 to play Fortnite because I'm that fucking retarded >Huh? Chipsets above 5070 is meant for ai???>Noooo 5090 best GPU for videogame>I am very smart Just fucking kill yourself you absolute fucking waste of oxygen.
>>541521938never, ever. (((they))) won't let it. 2008 was the year of the beginning of hell on earth
>>541522654My friend has two 5060ti 16GB like in op pic and now also two 5090 fe like in your pic from quake con nvidia booth
>>5415219385060 ti 16gb for 600+ seems extreme >remembers crypto boom>checks ebay sold listings >goys buying itYea we fucking deserve it
>>541522789need more VRAM for local AI you troglodyte
>>541523284to cure cancer, right?
>>541523435no
>>541523549
>>541522789the xx90s is just the high tier version and should support better graphics and have better performance and longer life.the xx90s in reality are not meant for AI, its just a graphics processor consumers are forced to use for local AI.There is a substantial graphic quality increase between the high tier and the middle tier, the problem is that prices are extremely inflated because that greedy chink is doing infinite money glitches.
>>541521938It will never pop, the economy is fake. Besides if it did pop, you would still need to have a ton of money to capitalize on this, which I feel a lot of kids fantasize that once the bubble pops they will become rich somehow.
>>541522789you fucking idiot he is using it to generate/train
>>541521938Probably never because too many rich people invested in the scam. God forbid they lose a little bit of money on their retarded speculations, because if that happens they'll just crash the whole economy with no survivors
>>541521938>When is the AI bubble popping???i work in finance and its not far off.expect riots by the end of september.
>>541523684infinite money glitches cannot be sustained forever, the qwen3.8 27B is comparable to luna and opus 4.6, and its local, there is no decreasing reasons to keep lending money to the likes of oracle or openAI for more datacenters, when the money flow stops then all these companies will turn into crisis mode.But retards will be retards and the consumers that were raped by NVidia will bail them out buying their hardware again...the 4090 had a total memory capacity of 48GB but shipped with 24GB, meaning that we paid a price for half the capacity and retards are happy with that...no one should buy AMD or NVidia again, otherwise we will be rewarding this kind of behaviour.
>>541522654Name one game that needs more than 16gb VRAM
>>541522763>and they should do this, why, out of the kindness of their hearts?>are you familiar with this "capitalism" thingYou dumb nigger you have no fucking clue how pricing works. No, they dont lower prices out of the kindness of their hearts they lower prices to compete for the lowest prices to move inventory; which is largely going to be determined by availability.RAM and GPU prices will come down, but not until demand comes down, or at least the supply comes up to relieve the pressure of the demand. This has repeatedly happened with RAM prices, not so much GPUs because new demand pressure from new uses has prevented that. First it was just gaming, but then bitcoin, then crypto in general, then AI has kept upward pressure on GPUs; but for commodity components like RAM and storage, processors, monitors, etc we have definitely seen prices go down.Thats what capitalism does retard it makes people compete on price. Prices arent set by opinions, they are set by transactions.
>>541524059AI you dumb faggot, fuck your games.
>>541521938>whenon the 12th of December
>>541524186yeah but you're not going anything interesting with it. you're basically just a script kiddy playing with daddy's money on your graphics card ant farm
>>541524247>poorfag cope
>>541521938>be me>car problem>ask chatgpt>lighting fast answer>unintelligible gibberish
>>541524082>No, they dont lower prices out of the kindness of their hearts they lower prices to compete for the lowest prices to move inventory; which is largely going to be determined by availability.now, picture this: what if you gave all the existing companies that manufactured them an excuse to double the prices all at once, setting a new industry standardand then they all decided to stay there because it was way nicer selling a $400 card for $800+and they could just sort of do this perpetually because it's not like they colluded on raising the price right? it's not technically "price fixing", right?right
days sales outstanding went from 45 to 60. That means their customers are having a harder time coming up with cash.nvda cash on hand was a big disappointment. They've been buying back their own stock to keep the price artificially elevated, they can't do that much longer.Their equity investments skyrocketed. When the companies they bought equity in start to go down nvda is going to crater.They're trying to reframe the bear circular financing observation as being "nvidia is the new BANK OF AI", which is bullshit. That's the best they can come up with, because it's now mainstream knowledge that their profits are far from organic.And on top of that, their inputs are getting waaaaay more expensive. Memory suppliers have adjusted to the demand and are now setting higher prices themselves, which means margin compression for nvda. nvda is also trying to spin their inventory buildup (which isn't getting shipped because their customers are starting to get denied loans and corporate bonds aren't selling as well as they thought) as instead "oh we're stocking up on inputs, they're totally cheap, so our margins will be fine".Fat chance.Finance-man earlier is pretty right on when he says get ready for a rough end of septemberburry was (typically) too early, but he was right
>>541521938I paid $3050 for one of these last November. Pretty glad I didn't wait, the old 4090 just wasn't quite up to snuff for VR with a Pimax Super.
>>541524082He's actually right you retard
>>541521938>When is the AI bubble popping?If you are complaining about GPU prices, you need to keep in mind that AI bubble and GPU prices are different things. When AI bubble will pop, it does not mean that there will be sudden drop of GPU prices. Let me explain.When journalists asked RAM manufacturers about prices and availability, they said something along the lines that entire 2027 is booked. As much I remember, those were 2 from major manufacturers. Also, there were reports, that a lot of RAM manufacturing lines have been converted to assemble HB2 memory, instead of oridinary RAM.As much I remember, for ASML, they were booked 18 months in advance, and it was even before AI bubble. Likely now things are the same.So, if AI bubble collapses, those companies still need to fullfill their contracts. If contract gets cancelled, and they need to re-adjust production line to manufacture GPU grade chips, instead of AI stuff, it still will take some time.So if AI collapses in october, then GPU prices and availability to return to sane levels, it might happen at 2029. First, existing contracts get fullfilled. Then manufacturers try to keep prices as high as possible, to compensate for unearned money they did not gained from AI stuff. Slowly, but prices should return to more sane-ish levels at end of 2029.
>>541521938They know once they charge for tokens they are fucked. DeepSeek is opensource. lmao
>>541522269>It's already popping
>>541521938It's not a bubble. Either it destroys us or AGI is banned.https://youtu.be/wDBy2bUICQY?is=oqL3Kya9xS5UJygt
>>541524351>retarded uninteresting slop>>541524655>supply and demand doesn't apply because...!!!>>541525303AGI isn't happening. What is happening is the economic black hole of AI companies' negative balance sheets causing a total implosion of the financial system
>>541525303nigger what reality do you think we live innobody is banning itthey literally built some shit years ago meant to serve roughly the purpose of skynet and called it fucking skynet
>>541522763Anyone who wants to get into the memory manufacturing business will make a killing right now.
>>541522269Any real and true Chinese AI developments will mean further losses state side
>>541521938you morons cant into euv machines, be happy when you dont have to pay 200.000 for thelatest graphic cards.youre literal retards. you should pay the 200k it like a ferrari for you morons. be mad about it. youre worthless. you dont deserve OUR RTX cards.THIS IS OUR SHIT.THIS BELONG TO US.fuck you.
>>541521938>>541522269Somebody has to put Jensen Huang on suicide watch once the bubble pops.
>>541525512if it was that easy or cheap there wouldn't be so few companies doing it, and thus not so few of them that permanent price fixing using this opportunistic loophole is a very serious possibilitythey could absolutely get away with it, I'd bet most people in all companies have already had the thought, it's absolutely retarded for them not to take advantage of a legal loophole like this
fuck anglos youre all idiots.make them pay 200.000.
increase the prize for euv machines and the parts 10 fold. these idiots cant do this, its alien tech for them.
>>541525429>>5415254348 graphs showing parabolic growth. How are they all wrong? The biggest one is that in every other industry (cars, nuclear, chemical) the experts always over estimated their progress. AI is the only industry were the experts are UNDERRATING their progress. This is unprecedented growth.
its time that americans learn how fucking braindead they really are and the rest of anglos^^cry about it.
MIT jeets stole the palantir gods eye and released it open source https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GRJaKcXZS94&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1VUw%3D%3D&ra=m
>>541522269>Chinese won't stop that, their shit's all distilled and running on subsidy too.Cope. China will won. Jews collapsed america.
>>541525738Forgot linkhttps://youtu.be/wDBy2bUICQY?is=oqL3Kya9xS5UJygt
the latest rtx cards are allmost 10k anyway. its not going to get cheaper. only more expensive. go cry about morons. you can be happy that we share this alien tech with you stupid cavedweller idiots.
>>541525738>MUH PARABOLIC GRAPHSthis is identical to cryptoshit but with effects that have been 100x worse for everyone, because we inhabit a corrupt, lawless state that continues to pump resources into a technological dead end
>>541524508Oh you are one of the idiots that thinks that because Nvidia invests in companies that make components for them or utilize their products at an industrial level is price fixing......ok so you arent just a retard you are a double retard.>>541524655>He's actually right you retardShut the fuck up jeet. He isnt correct about GPU pricing and his idiotic idea of how pricing works falls apart when you look at other computer components. GPUs arent special; yes they have had severe upwards pricing pressure because several popular technologies emerged over the past 10yrs to increase their demand to literally an industrial level; but when the day comes that GPUs arent moving out the door prices will fall until they do.
>>541525738I'm not disputing the possibility I had my "oh shit" moment with it already before they lobotomized the public facing LLMswhen it dawned on me that it had taken me like 5 minutes to type out a metaphor I made up, so it couldn't possibly have seen before, and it spat out this fucking page long breakdown of it in parts and as a whole that was entirely accurate and on my screen in total in less than a minute>>541525907>a technological dead endmaybeI used to think it was nothing
>>541525966>memeflaggot>clearly doesn't even understand what the post he's replying to saysno surprises here
>>541524247>>541525429you're a fat retarded douchebag
>>541525844>thosI would not take that content creator as a reliable source, most things are made up or fan fiction at best, "papers" used to make his content are either non peer reviewed or speculative or philosophical.Also he is constantly doing covert marketing for Anthropic and OpenAI, he is most likely one of the Y-Combinator influencers that are peddling doomsday porn on social media to pump Anthropic or OpenAI tech.>GPT-5.1Already defeated by local Qwen3.8
>>541525738name an AI company with a profitable business model.
>>541525799belongs all to germans stop gatekeeping assholes. germans invented ai not anyone of you retards fuck you.
>>541526084are you counting government surveillance contracts not made public, or no
>>541526084>$500 billion dollar "AI infrastructure" run by Altman and Gates>day one of this termwhat is "AI infrastructure", anyway
Never. Do you none of you retards know about Vera Rubin? You've seen nothing
>>541526225Data centres you HFCS suckling mongoloid
when OpenAI goes public and their financials are public and their stock tanks immediately.
>>541526161man what a giant fucking scam. absolute disgrace
>>541521938My 7900 XTX mogs that and was about the same price. Nvidia retards will still slurp it up though.
>>541525618Shut the fuck up turk. You can't even speak english properly.
>>541526307for what data? his question was about >>541526084>profitable business model.
>>541526161>>541526179>>541526341fuck you american thieves and saboteurs.
>>541521938Not going to happen. Google has a huge model planned, like 1 trillion parameters, openai says AGI this year. If anything you won't be able to buy a GPU next year, or until a solar flare resets the planets tech
>>541524059i cant run rdr2 at 8k res with my 5080, vram tops out
>>541521938I am about to MKUltra all over the tech industry.
>>541522654>Looks ashamedly at PC>"8 GB is all we need"Fuck AI
>>541526523no thanks, I'm taken, but have a pity (You), nobody seems to be falling for itit's a hard knock lifefor hans
>>541521938Prices will treble next year, slightly more for Americans (tariffs).
>>541524351Good job on the 4 foot tall basketball hoop for midgets. Stupid fucking clanker.
Back when I was younger I could have gotten my dick sucked 4 times for the price I paid for a GTX 1050Ti
>>541526047I read Bostroms book and much of it falls inline with that. Orders of magnitude are not something normal people comprehend without thinking critically. I was warning people of this in 2018 but then had to stop due to events of 2020.
>>541526084Name a profitable nuclear company from 1947.
>>541526688Well the UK still has slight tariffs on their own little buddy through your VAT tax bullshit. And another problem for UK buyers is that almost all global GPU vendors (like Nvidia, AMD, Asus, and MSI) manage their logistics and pricing on a global scale. Because these vendors are getting hit with 10% to 25% tariff penalties at the US border, they often absorb the losses by raising the global MSRP of their cards.So because of us, you will still likely be paying more regardless. You are welcome cunt.
Ya'll just gotta work harder kek
>>541521938It has to, AI isn't remotely scalable with our current technology, which is why its consuming so much of the computing industry's resources.
>>541527104
>>541525148RAM doesn't even seem that difficult to make. It's kind of surprising that some country like Bulgaria or Finland hasn't ever just tried to make some state-invested RAM/SSD facility even if it's DDR4.
>>541526973VAT is a sales tax not a tariff.
>>541526686falling for what that german names invented all of this you pathetic moron?
>>541527268If remember correctly, some fabs will open in Taiwan this year. Was some of non-major manufacturers.Who knows, how far CXMT will manage to get. Publicly they say some interesting stuff, but will they be able to actually deliver? Who knows.In theory, things should eventually stabilize. If some random bullshit do not happen. Like was with Covid19. Or Hormuz strait.
>>541527268afaik it's the tech to make it that is highly controlled and super expensive, because you can't make the shit by hand or anything it's microscopic now
>>541523092What if this time around, it's actually nVidia buying them up, like how Apple did with used iPhones a few years back? It would make financial sense given only a tiny fraction of people sell used GPUs and how it forces people to upgrade with new instead, like why Apple did it to artificially inflate prices.
it matters who invented something. off course not for you, because you never invent a fucking thing. you just put your sticker on it and call it your own like a xinese thief. youre thieves and saboteurs. youre worthless parasites.
>>541527650thanks for the moon hans, sorry you lost the war and all your alpha males in the processour bad, really, my grandfathers had no idea
off course then these worthless parasites cry about jewish people that parasite off of them.you have no right to cry about this youre the biggest parasites of them all, americans that is.
look at you fat fucking 2 braincelled idiots.youre all scum and worthless.
the jewish people will fuck you in the ass so hard you worthless scum parasites.
>>541527690I could see that for CPU's and GPU's, but RAM??
>>541523693>trainme doth thinks you're the ijut here, Anonalso, GPUs are primarily for gaming, that's to say, a large majority of consumers like you'll find here on this board use their primarily for gaming and not to have a cluster of GPUs doing LLM computing tasks
>>541527957even the ram has to have chips
so what happens when you support jewish people. jewish people are 100% fair. they see whos the traitor and fuck them the hardest first.
>>541524351literally how is he wrong lol
all you have to do is support jews and bless israel and the rest happens automatically.
>>541524082>Stupid greedy capitalistic niggerdom blablingLaw of "oferta" and demand its the most greedy unhuman thingy ever invented, and of course its a kike invention.If the demand is high, the prizes should be lowered, specially if the materials for that product or service are avalaible and in plenty quantity. This is not kindness or good will. This is called functionality, otherwise we will live soon like India landfill style country tier..Im not saying resourses are limited or other ecoblabling.. im talking about resposability.Democratic capitalism or western marxism are: niggerdom-lowIQ-braintard-crazy-mentall-kikery ways of living.Both ways are leads to ruin.You should know, you and everyone, what it is trust and fame, otherwise destruction is unavoidable.
Just got this z690 board on fb marketplace for 60. Now I have two 5060ti each w 16GB (32 total) on the same board.
>>541524186kek why does a fucking chatbot need so much RAM? AI is a big scam
>>541525803China's shit is distilled, they haven't made their own AI at all. They can't make AI chips either lol.
>>541528348is that a milk crate>>541528414the video and image generating ones do
>>541522654are my specs gay? i only have 16 i couldnt afford more
what happened to the anglo countries. theyre a piece of shit now. theyre a piece of shit because the anglos are traitors and only care about themselves.theyre useful idiots that all get discarded now and replaced by mexicans and indians.
>>541528414>>541528101>>541526580>>541525429>GPU poor cucks coping and seething
off course they show this to you because seeing this matters. you can learn from this.
>>541528545>only 32GB RAM>only 16GB RAMbig oooooof
what you whitness here is the last breathe of the white motherfuckers that were never more than useful idiots.
>>541527981This on a 3090. I can make a decent LORA for a day
>>541528671i dont care about GPU. i literally only use my PC for 4chan, listening to music and playing chess
>>541521938The AI bubble will pop the same time the Internet bubble pops and we go back to using fax machines.
>>541529034ok grandpa
>>541521938Yeaa it won't. I will just keep financing mega tech corporations so will walstreet and millions of people who want to make money easly
>>541524508One company would cut prices by 1% to beat its competitors and snatch up all the customers. The others would cut prices by more to counter. This competition would continue until the prices reached a floor very close to the cost of production. That's the actual beauty of capitalism. It correctly takes into account human nature and the fact that, in the prisoner's dilemma, we defect. Yes, collusion yields more money overall, but the first to defect gets so much of a relative advantage over its opponents that it is often worth it.
>>541529205you'll find 85% of people in this thread also use their computer for the same thing you weird kraut autist
>>541527670>CXMTThe usual brands are buying up all the Chinese CXMT chips, slapping on their name, and reselling them to us full price.
>>541521938who cares lol the only thing im salt about is like 200 dollars overpriced steam deck and steam machine gtx 1070 1080 ti or rx 6600 rx 7600 is all you need lel plus hacked consoles or a used ps4 or ps5new games mostly suck and alot of them get 60 fps even on something as dogshit as a 1660 super with a 4 core cpu
>>541521938Fuckin Nvidia stock up 9% today check back in 2027. Just get a PS5 instead of a Cuckputer Player, play only goyslop like Star Wars Command and get a real job.
>>541522789What? You can barely even do 4k raytracing WITH a 4090 or 5090. Anything less is trash for a gaming PC. Might as well just stick with gaystation at that point.
>>541529352yes but that's short term gain and long term loss especially for stock prices, the values of which far outweigh sales volume to modern corporations
You don't understand, its never getting better. It will keep getting worse so eventually all we will be able to do is buy the GrokCube or NVIDIAStation and stream our PCs, our media, our games, all powered and enhanced by AI.
>>541524034>no one should buy AMD or NVidia againcome home, white man
>>541529352Why are you explaining capitalism in a price fixing thread?
all games are pure shite now, why even bother?
>>541521938Wait .. you thought the prices are gonna drop when the bubble bursts?!picrel
When does the next gen tech come out, next year? It won't be too expensive right?
>>541529740because markets aren't fixable let alone easily and are not at all manmade things, they are subject to "natural rules" that force things to go certain directions to the chagrin of those who could easily make it otherwise
>>541521938When oil will do its funny, much like it did in 2008. Yes, oil WAS the trigger. It always is.
>>541529854going to be a hell of a funny when the strategic reserve runs out
>>541529628They really did a number on the normies with meme tracing and hdr ooohhhh look reflections like San Andreas had on the ps2 buy the 8090 Jensen core ultra goy
>>541524528Just like housing the stock market it kept high artificially by boomers for boomers. Literally it is the #1 concern of the US president and every single person in his entire administration and they will use all the power of the entire country to prop this bitch up until after every last boomer is dead. Then, and only then, will collapse be allowed to happen.
>>541529615>Just get a PS5no games
>>541521938It's not the hardware companies that are in a bubble, but AI companies. OpenAI is now claiming AGI in 2028, not 2026.NVIDIA and others actually have products consumers will continue to buy when AI is gone. See how much PC Masterrace whines about RAM and GPUs.
Imagine instead of USSR or Bin Laden, this island-chink nigger might the one who actually brings down America through his scamming
>>541525303>presentation by a zoomerFucking dropped. Stopped listening 1 minute in.
>>541529838If price fixing is impossible then why did executives from Samsung and SK Hynix go to prison for price fixing?https://www.justice.gov/archive/atr/public/press_releases/2006/219102.htm
>>541529352>The others would cut prices by more to counter. This competition would continue until the prices reached a floor very close to the cost of production.Say among multiple companies, there are two particular which are competing. One lowers price, and they get their inventory moving way faster. While second keeps old price, and their inventory moving very slowly, and some of it gets stuck in warehouse. Then second company need to lower their price to level that their inventory keeps moving faster, and not gets stuck in warehouses. Not always it means to go lower price than competitor. Just that you are able to sell stuff you are manufacturing, and remain profitable.
>>541530110sorry, either you missed the sarcasm in that post, or I didn't lay it on thick enough; I'll just say it's my bad since you weren't a cunt about it
>>541525288He's fucking right you absolute double nigger.
>>541530025I mean, yeah. Should be obvious that much like the space war and Star Wars were projects engineered to bankrupt the USSR, the AI meme race is engineered by chyna to bankrupt the USA.And it's working tremendously so far. How would it not, when the country runs on dumb raw greed.
>>541529577There was some talks in media that in one of their fabs they are trying to improve manufacturing process to increase yields. If they will manage to get results till mid 2027, then they will be able to manufacture RAM at higher prices, while there still are significant demand.If that progress will be slower, then they might miss on that opportunity. Time will show.
>>541522269>>541525803What does China have that is better?Earlier this year it was reported Gemini wouldn't be released to the public because it could find and exploits in every major software. Then weeks later it was released and we never heard about the exploits again.Seems China would have taken advantage of that by now.
>>541530242My bad.
>>541523693Shantae is a big girl now
>>541530342>What does China have that is better?Nothing, but that doesn't make AI useful or profitable. It's gonna crash hard just like in the first AI Winter. Jewgle that.
>>541521938Never. It hasn't even begun. By the next generation a mid-range 24GB GPU will cost 24k.
>>541530357
>bubble>poplmao you just don't get itWe're going into stagflation. There will be no big pop. Stock prices will continue to climb while their actual worth plummets.
>>541522591I bet fire will still win.
>>541530302The space race was a few dozen people. AI is literally everyone with a phone or pc
>>541530017>OpenAI is now claiming AGI in 2028, not 2026This always makes me laugh because AI faggots have been predicting muh AGI was just a few years away since the 1970s. But surely they're not completely full of shit THIS time, right?
>>541530647actually Apollo era NASA was this massive fucking national corporation that employed at least several thousand at its height, not counting the contractors making a bunch of shitit's one of the reasons going back to the moon is so difficult, it really did require a fuck ton of effort and national focus
>>541521938it probably wont, just make them spend money by asking dumb questions
>>541522654Have they fixed the connector pin melting issue?
>>541521938when they build a wall and all "sweat pledge" boomers, fucko-pop-lenials and zooggers reduced to actual Zimbabwe rat eating niggers
>>541531066this was only ever an issue for retards who are too dumb to plug it in properly or use bootleg adapters.
>>541529017do you actually train any useful models or do you just benchmark for e-peen and/or grift/scamming like 98% of people currently "in AI"
>>541529577Imagine buying MIC RAM for full price and not expecting anything to go wrong. If it does go south, not even backups will help you.
>>541522654ive got 24GB vram and all i do is math or play FTL all day. fight me
>>541522789lol this yuropoorean is mad and poor
>>541531720I just got my new(old) gpu and I am still learning how to make good loras. The screenshot was of a test with a tiny dataset. 4 pictures + 4 mirrored. Its like having a good car and only tuning it with 0 driven miles. I just generate few pictures for my enjoinment and experiment with the gpu and models.
>>541522654Not spending 6000€ ($7000) on 16 more vram. If i needed the vram id buy a 2nd 5070 ti. Would be cool for llama cpp but meh. Doesn't feel worth. Local models are still well below even the dumbest most distilled frontier models.
>>541521938nvidia is all AI slop today, even the "gaming GPUs" are gearing towards AI performance now and away from gaymanhttps://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.htmlsupport radeon instead, get a much cheaper 9070 xt
my 3080 ti runs everything ok i dont really see a need to upgrade it to superdooper Ti DDR10 DLSS donkey shit to be honest, and AI is gay burn the data centres
>>541522269If things were going well the perplexity bot i sometimes used wouldn't have transitioned to a pay-only model.I'm not giving these bastards any money because they made it so PCs are out of reach for most people now. Fuck them and I hope they get crushed under all those fucking GPUs, hard drives, and RAM sticks they hoarded.
>>541522591LLMs are retarded and always self-destruct. This isn't artificial intelligence this is a "make the next best guess" bot. All the companies that fired their human workers to transition to bots are having to hire their human workers back at a higher cost. This whole thing was a boondoggle, a scam to make a shit load of money while leaving everyone else holding the bag.
>>541522654 My 3060 has 12Also got it for 100.
>>541523284I like how it's good at making asian sluts but can't be bothered to make a GPU that looks real.
>>541527957Yes RAM too. Do you even know what ultraviolet lithography even is? What it entails? It's basically magic to most people. Imagine splattering a single tiny drop of molten tin with a laser thousands of times a minute. It happens so fast it shows up as a blur to the human eye.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2482h_TNwg
>>541523284Depends. Quants and optimizatioms have come a long way and there are some genuine banger models you can run on 12-16 vram + 32-64 system ram>Minimax h3 >Wan2.2 (best lora support for vidgen not even close)>Flux2 9b >Krea2 >Ideogram4>qwen3.5 35b abliteratedIf u think u need >16 to run local ai then youre just ignorant
>>541521938It's designed to never pop. And you mutts voted for it
>>541533527There was never a vote for this shit, numb nuts. In fact when people ARE given an opportunity to support or oppose it, people overwhelmingly oppose it. Regular people's lives are not being improved by this scam.
it's occult stuff, it's not nerds running the show
>>541526179>there are profits but you're not allowed to see themMIC contractors are publicly traded retard.
have you guys asked alexa or siri at 3 a.m questions and you hear doors open and close?
>>541521938Data centers, aren't they great? Another of Trump's bright ideas that is making personal computing unaffordable
>>541521938and what would you like to play with that magical gfx card if you get the latest one?
>>541528545You will need more storage. Believe me.
>>541534657I have solved the GPU/CPU/RAM issue, but I won't say once my project comes to light and is probably funded
>>541524351I have never seen anyone do anything with local models outside of making porn, porn chatbots, sloppy scripts, or schizo fanfiction garbage./g/ has threads devoted to this trash, it's a bunch of retards posting redrawn anime fanart and wondering if they can make it faster by pissing away more cash on cards with more VRAM.>poorfag copeI have a PC that does whatever I want, I can also just download ero doujinshi instead of hoping my PC will make porn with bad proportions and exaggerated shading. You are working 10x harder to "make" things that are amalgamations of other people's work that can already be downloaded for free.
>>541522269>2 more weeks
>>541521938when corporate will stop trying to eliminate you from payroll, meaning, never. the reality may die, But The desire to eliminate payroll will never die
>>541533018LLMs can raise 1 mill dollars on their own thohttps://youtu.be/H3vxqi4dVg8?is=mwxIB5lBFrdMGNFV
Anthropic is going for $2 trillion IPO. That shit better open interdenominational portals
>>541521938You will own nothing (including gaming PC's) and be happy :)
>>541534865poorfag cope.>>541533520>to run local aito run it at acceptable speed you double nigger. keep waiting 2 hours for an image to finish you poorfag coper.
>>541535819DelusionalIn the realm of ai workstations your 5090 is poorfag tierImage gen is pretty fucking fast on all the models ive tried. Under a minute flr batch of 2 with 3 megapixels. Nothing takes hours a 10s video at 0.7mp at 30 steps is about 8 minutes on minimax h3 which you can rtx upscale x2-x3 in 5 seconds on top
>>541535819Also your gen looks like ass
>>541522789Gets irritating when my gamer friends get whiny about the prices for high end GPUs. I kind of get being annoyed about their hobby getting marginally more expensive (ie. the low end cards increasing some too), but the other week one of my friends was all beat up about something going up by like $200. Like, bruh, prices are going up for the hardware I want to use too, and it's going up by the thousands. I'm not just using it for a hobby either, this is work.>>541523284They're making fun of the gamers complaining, not the AI people.
>>541529679Nigger have you seen corporations? They'll doom themselves to bankruptcy next quarter if it means making this quarter look 1% better. They work exclusively on short term gain, regardless of long term pain.
>>541522654I love my 5090, but I'm genuinely debating selling it to help fund something bigger.Or if BTC plunges in Oct, I might sell to buy the bottom. The speed is great. It's great for images and video, but it's not enough room for the context needed by coding agents for larger projects.
>>5415361245090 is still many times faster than your poorfag GPU.>a 10s video at 0.7mp>cant even go above 10s and 0.7mpLOL>which you can rtx upscalenot the same as generating at the resolution you retard.>>541536238>nogen cope
>>541521938>When is the AI bubble popping???you all don't get that ai, and harmless Ai for the people, is a difference. If you ask about the version for us, it won't because it will step up every few years after the mic allowed it. It's Pandoras Box they opened. Nothing less.
>>541532956>If things were going well the perplexity bot i sometimes used wouldn't have transitioned to a pay-only model.Free tiers were to get people hooked. Like with crack dealers.>I'm not giving these bastards any money because they made it so PCs are out of reach for most people now. Fuck them and I hope they get crushed under all those fucking GPUs, hard drives, and RAM sticks they hoarded.All this shit will come crashing down with quantized models, the hardware crunch is part of a broader initiative. But everybody already has what they need.t. typing this on a Thinkpad T520 made in 2011, it has 48 GB RAM and 8 processors. Benchmark-wise with Unixbench, it's about 1/6th as fast as my wife's Mac Mini her work bought for her earlier this year. But it serves my purposes and her Mac isn't even managed, it's just here on our LAN so I can use it whenever to do what heavy lifting I like, she neither cares, nor even notices.I have a lot of other computers too, including a beefy Zen but that Mac Mini's the most beefy machine in the house rn.
Should I bite the bullet and get a 5090 or do you think prices ill go down in the next 6 months?
>>541537132chink spic cartels are deleting data coomcenterrs
>>541537132yes buy a 5090 right now, prices for these will never go down again.might even be the last GPU you will ever be able to buy with how things are going.
