At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore? I can play a game of chess, or board and card games and actually have fun, but modern gaming feels like a chore like an actual 9-5 work grind, i have no idea when this feeling came over me, but i had an epiphany while replaying some older classick games, esp GTA games.>go here, steal car, get gun, drive here, meet him. kill him, drive back. level up save game, dont die. kill boss, get loot repeatThis is the ultimate mechanic of video games and once you feel it, its over, not even nostalgia can bring you back.They fucked up gaming somewhere along the lines from when it was truly just fun to now all this repeat grind
they've always been like that it's just you have less time now so it seems like a waste of effort
>>541559208right after the first raid of every expantion.
I do not play bad games so it never happens to me desu
>>541559208When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways.
>>541559410This40 hour work weeks need to die
90% of open world dogshit is like that. You're playing the wrong genre.
>>541559741this is the end of the story everything we had everything we didburied in dust
>Falling for the electric dopamine jew in 2026
>>541559208Chess doesn't have time wasting cutscenes
>>541559208ps4 had the last good games. ps5 sucked. GTA will suck too.
>>541559208Congratulations youre a .an now son. Now get a roastie gf and reproduce then work for the next 40 years and die.
>>541559208Sounds like you played too many shit games and got burnt out.I haven't played a video game in probably over a year and still feel passion for them.
>>541559970neither does Castlevania 1
>>541559208I know a very addictive game that scratches that itch, but I won't share it because it's like handing someone heroin. Youre welcome.
Buy an ad.
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?when they ruined it with western pozz progagandai can still boot up 20-30 year old shit and appreciate the game for what it was but the modern shit i burn out in 10 minutes max. you can not unsee what youve seen
>die during mission, repeat, killing immersion, jump through the hoop goy>>541561108damn it now I want heroin to fill the gap of what you're not telling meeee
>>541559208When you're over the age of 18.Grow up and get a real hobby
Notice how it's always about falling
>>541559208all you just did is tell everyone that you only play consooomer slop AAA shit. there is plenty of really good games you just dont see them or dont give them a chance.
>>541559208It's because you have a low IQ.
>>541561338More like 12. By your teens should be realizing that you can do way cooler shit irl than in minecraft.Ted K correctly identified such things as "surrogate activities." Its fine as an occasional distraction, but if thats your main source of dopamine you're officially "cooked" as the Zoomers would say.People vastly underestimate how much of human accomplishment prior to the modern era was really just dudes trying to impress women and get laid. Even to buy a prostitute in the 1800s, you had to do something to earn coin and then interact with a woman irl.Nowadays, dudes can work a McGoy job, get on onlyfans, and blow their paycheck and their load... despite being terrified to actually talk to a woman without a screen between them.Sad.Yall should listen to Richard Wagner and rediscover romanticism or something.Men only suffer because they take seriously what the gods made for fun.
>>541561762>Making this about hoes all of a sudden.You are the man picrel is describing.
>>541559925The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind.
>>541561108We know Factorio
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?You mean life? Vidya is just another life so to speak !I get sick of life and video games myself and shit then eventually come back to itT. Took 7mo off gaming to be with my gf and save up for a new console to play GTA 6 only to end up having more fun being at work and being with her
>>541559208They stopped making decent AAA video games in 2013. They don’t design these kinds of big budget games to be fun anymore, they design them to be “engaging” and full of ways to nickel and dime you.So far, the medium seems to have peaked between 1991 and 2006.
>>541562336Kek first game that came to my mind aswell.
>>541562372It has a reason this list ends in 2015
>>541562372This. San Andreas was the last fun gta game. 4 was boring but still had a fun multi-player. Even going back to 2010-2012 is a breath of fresh air compared to now. Skyrim and gta 5 fucked gaming beyond repair
>>541559208Gran Autismo is still pretty cool online but yeah after about 15 years of age single player gaming sucks and you may need to partake in cannabis to genuinely enjoy things again after about 25.
>>541559208One Grand Theft India thread is enough. I'm calling shill campaign on this.
>>541559208Life itself is a video game. You are just too stupid to be aware of it. If I get sick of living, I will probably just reset my memory and start over.
>>541559208Having a job ruins repetitive tasks you used to do for fun
>>541559208It's because the games you play have shit gameplay
>>541559208This is a problem of games nowadays, not your problem. You fan just feel that nothing fun happened in that trailer, it's not well written.
Its a chore when I gotta play a bunch of games that have daily check-ins.
>>541559208>Q: At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?A: The modern age.
Right after San Andreas Can't touch GTA ever since
>>541559208Because the illusion of choice in games fades with age. All open world games are linear games with extra steps because the plot, story beats and conclusion are all mandatory: thus player choice is invalidated. Unironically AI will be used to create the first actual video game RPG where the world is a true sandbox, the hooks/quests, objectives, locations, etc, generated on the fly as you (playing a character and not yourself) choose to actually do whatever you want. Instead of focusing on true emergent gameplay the industry focused on visuals, whether through art direction or realism. The effect is that the player has the impression of pushing the button on an elaborate museum exhibit designed to be viewed from a single angle.
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?Definitely after 25 but more probably after 30
>>541559208Once you start working.
>>541559208Bad games feel like chores. Most AAA studios outsource to jeets that don't play video games. They don't know what is enjoyable in a video game, so you get hundreds of digital chores thrown at an open world map and they call it content. See: The last 10 years of Assassin's Creed, anything from Naughty Dog or Rockstar, and Final Fantasy.
>>541561108Factorio only appeals to autists a normal person will get bored with it in 10 minutes >you design the flow of things to be effectiveuhh okay
>>541559208Try out emulation. Some PS1 and PS2 games will have you wanting to kill yourself in frustration. There is a lot of slop out but it's not all bad
>>541559741Everyone always misattributes that line because they leave out what comes before and afterIt means something completely different
>>541559208idk. Same thing happened to me. Rockstar games are the worst offenders of this. I tried playing rdr2 and it was so boring and tedious I regretted buying it. I think at this point people just buy and play these games because everyone else is doing it. Sorta like watching sports.
>>541559741Like caring about what retarded anons online think of my vidya
>>541559208At the very moment when you realize you've done this over and over, and there still have been no practical application of all your toil; when you realize you've actually wasted your few precious prime years on things that won't secure you as you enter your inevitable mortal decline.Gaming now and then is fine, but kids should not play vidya, and adults should have better things to do anyway.Vidya should cater to shitskin, and it should only appeal to shitskin; ruin the shitskin. Free the white youth from this cancer.
>>541559208Bad games always felt boring. GTA was never good
>>541559208It's not your age.It's the games themselves.To keep you playing, they put loot in boxes that are timed releases of items with gambling mechanics.To get the loot, they have you do extensive repetitive tasks, just like work at an assembly line.To do enough work, you need to devote day and night to the game... but you can buy special keys for special lootboxes with that time, or with real money.That's why games are built this way today. Make the game addicting enough for you to enjoy playing it, and then hold carrots on a stick in front of you saying "you can get this right now if you pay with real money".I've been playing the original Need for Speed Most Wanted from 2005 recently.Each race is fun and quick. The milestone gimmick is annoying to grind through, big oversight, but the longest race is 12,5 minutes and it's one of the last circuits.This game was made for turning your console on, getting to the supercar you can't afford IRL, and racing it within 2-3 minutes.There's no task list with petty rewards for logging in.There's no mission where you have to drive X amount of miles today to get an XP boost that's still too weak.There's no girl yapping in your ear telling you what to do. She texts you and you can click it away.Gaming went completely the wrong way when someone decided that microtransactions were a viable business strategy.They're no longer entertainment. They're nothing more than casinos with a fancy animation.
>>541559208It really depends on your mindset and drive. I can't stand 99% of FPS games out there and JRPGs are always fucking stupid, but every so often I'll fire up Cities Skylines or Planet Crafter and enjoy watching my hard work come to fruition
>>541561108Dyson Sphere Program is better.
>>541559410No they haven't.Explain how Mario Kart, Resident Evil, Donkey Kong, etc etc etc were labour simulators.>>541559208The reason why this is happening is because the market is saturated with (thing) simulator games. >mechanic simulator>trucking simulator>farming simulator>auto detailing simulator>PC builder simulator>Burger flipping simulatorEtc.These games are RETARDEDLY successful for some reason. "mostly" or "very" positive reviews on steam. Hundreds of thousands sold. Etc.So a lot of games are incorporating elements from these games into their own mechanics.Now everything feels like shit.
>>541559208it's not a matter of agewell it's mostly not a matter of age, i guess a lot of you are still running that philosowank garbage and you get that nostalgia thingmostly it's a matter of shit gamesand good news if your bar is peak gta there is a LOT of stuff out there for you that'll clear that bar lol
>>541560041A good video game is ArtSame as a movie same as a song same as a painting same as operaGood art does not come around often, it’s good art because it stands out and is actually enjoyable. Appreciate what already exists. Not everything can be perfect or a masterpiece.
>>541565634Then you will love Eclipse Town because it’s the anti Undertalehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4158350/Eclipse_Town/
>>541562635/v/ is so fucking miserable right now with all the gta shitalso I called people niggers like 20 times yesterday then called someone a jeet once and got a 3 day ban within 10 minutesboard is fucking cooked
>>541561762i mean most people with low standards and no partner use hookup apps but suremasturbating to onlyfans slop generators, like it won't have the numbers but it'll be in there
>>541559208I have an arcade near me and occasionally I stop in to play a couple games of Robotron and Outrun and it's the most fun I've had with video games in a long time. 50 years from now those will be the same enjoyable game and GTA will probably not even be functional
as you mature you learn to think more broadly and consider how you spend more time. it becomes far more difficult to ignore the fact that you've just wasted 20 hours playing vidya while neglecting everything else in your life
>>541562453Can't argue with the list, it's good.I wish it had Master of Orion (1993) or its 1995 sequel on it though.Civilization in space with turn-based battles using stats of ships you designed with techs you stole or researched.
>>541564259haven't tried it but i've had sprawling complexes in space engineers and similarcan you not imagine a better machine?making it work to accomplish your goalsrefining it to be less wasteful and more effectivethen making it pretty i'm not asking everyone to be a creative virtuoso but if you are given the vidya equivalent of a canvas and supplies and you are done in ten minutes i don't think your brain is firing on all cylinders
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?most games begin feeling like a chore in my early 20sbefore that I was an avid gamer. Certainly I had over 5000 hours in video gamesthen through my 20s, selected few games felt good to play (dark souls series, terraria, trackmania and few others). And in my 30s even setting up inputs and graphic settings feel like such a drag that I don't wanna do launch a game at all>>541561233yeah, I stll play diablo 2 from time to time. mainly project diablo 2 mod, every other season
>>541564763Dino Crisis is based.
>>541561108Its madden you just dont want to admit it in public
>>541565850because the use of nigger is a part of board culturejeet is mostly a pol thing and is almost always some irl bullshityou may be new but now you're told so no excuses going forward
>>541559208Games used to be short and sweet. Race the bike, jump the turtle. Now it's all McJobslop dreamed up by neets or pseudo-gambling dreamed up by kikes.
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?Usually around 21 for normally developed humans.
>>541559958Indians designed that game it must suck
>>541561762>dudes trying to impress women and get laidThis literally never happened until Jews destroyed white society in the 1960's.Before ZOG the only way to get "laid", as you put it, was to get married.
>>541565852>partnerStop speaking like a queer
>>541566075You hadn’t seen my reply yet so it’s okay that this post is also written like you’re a faggot but now you’re told so no excuses going forward
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?For me it was around 20 when i started getting laid and doing psychedelics. I bought a steamdeck at 35 and i honestly cant be fucked to play more than an hour or two. Life is just too ever present to really immerse myself. That being said, current gf is into gooner game mods so I might get back into it that way
>>541565634They're still making Mario Kart just go play that instead lol
>>541566321>current gf is into gooner game modsEnjoy the cheating because you didn't fuck her properly.
>>541566367The Ohio stunner
Mid to late 20s for me. Sometimes the mood hits and I become a gaming addict for like a week or two straight before I burn out on it. I feel like a big part of the problem is that with the lack of free time I have now, coupled with the fact that I feel a lot of modern games aren't good enough to warrant my time at all, it becomes a recipe for making it incredibly easy to abstain from all gaming to begin with.
fridge thought:is it just the market being flooded with licensed games without the license?like the reason every game is both shit and the same is there are being churned out like ye olde hollywood slop but detached from any big namelike.......ubisoft game that sort of vibe
>>541559208Counter Strike still have funRPGs like first 2 Witchers are still funHotline Miami is funThey fucked gaming on purpouse play classic Mario to understand how far they pushed we went from arcade to simulator
>>541566321Same I built amazing gaming pcs and just left them at my mums one day and didn't look backCurrent girl would want me to sell them anyway >>541562689I'm the opposite having a gf and job makes me want to vidya more just to turn my brain off especially now since I'm healthy and don't do drugs anymore Never been more unhappy in my life no sex due to herill health and her bullshit is the icing on the cake What really sucks is I love this girl but she zigzags from being loving to a psycho bitch
>>541559208The overlook 2d ones were the best
>>541566513Witcher is the ultimate chore video game
>>541559208Quick grab the gun laquishana rodriges!!!ICE IS COMING!
>>541559208>chessbeen finding myself playing more chess this last year than vidyafeels better, look forward to it moreplay on my phone, so i'm still on a screen but i don't care about that
>>541564798When i was a young manI grabbed the tiger by the tail
When you are older the games need to involve the possibility of winning money. Poker is where its at
>>541566697The bet is skin in the game. The vidya doesnt provide that. Sure, you our hase it but after that the outcome of ajy action really doesnt matter at all
>>541566503>like the reason every game is both shit and the same is there are being churned out like ye olde hollywood slopI think the reason for this is because the gaming industry has essentially unanimously adpoted a handful of game engines for all their games, making them all similar and easier to pump out. I also think most modern developers aren't passionate about gaming, they just see the job as just another means to an end-- their paycheck.
>>541559208I have the most fun with video games early in the morning over a cup of coffee or two. After breakfast my body starts filling up with toxins and I no longer have the patience for gaming.
>>541566556i like the combat and watching geralt>>541566777probably because most of the current big name's execs and managers came from packaged goods not culture/media industries and they hire much the same
>>541566556Nah, the hot characters and sex scenes make it bearable.
>>541559208>modern gaming feels like a choreBecause they are, they're designed by psychologists and gambling experts to keep you hooked with drip contentGames used to be complete a level and go into the next, now it's open world MMO style bullshit of game loops to grind levels and collect shit
San Andreas is where it peaked games are suppouse to look like games and not like life, PS2 is soul for a reason but the reason they push realism is because they want to perfect VR and cage goyim within through chip in his brain in videogames all what matters is gameplay
>>541567056MMOs used to be very cool way to spent time with friends but social media destroyed this these days you aint gonna find woman that will sit with you and level up just to chill and talk
>>541567186realism is pushed by high iq people with lots of money to spend who dont want to hang out with mindless cattle in public spacesif you are low iq simulators will only make you tiredeven fucking farming simulator unironically
>>541559208They are making video games suck on purpose bf6 was the nail in the coffin for me it's trash compared to it's predecessors
>>541559208>can play a game of chess, or board and card games and actually have funYes, but that's purely about your attitude. Other people play chess and have virtually no fun. For many even if not done professionally, it becomes an agitating grind to study openings, or one particular opponent's style etc because their ultimate goal isn't to have fun, it's to satisfy their ego since chess rankings, and competitive wins become a foundation of their identity, and every game an assault on their self worth.It's the same with video games. You can try to keep up with the people at the top of the game, or you have fun with the game until you don't.
>>541559208>At what age does a video game begin to feel like a chore?It's whenever you realise that it is a total waste of time. Quickly thinking it is hard to think of worse activity. It's like being actively decieved. Last videogame I finished was GTA V when it came out. I bought a PS5 a while ago specifically for GTA 6 and will play that when it releases. I also bought around 8 games like Diablo 4, Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk, GT7 etc., but most of those games I haven't even played. They're just sitting in the shelf. The PS5 is mostly for my nephew and niece atm.
>>541567449they dont make game shit on purpose its the result of replacing man with women and pajeetsthey wish the game was good with nicely packaged propaganda points so it would be buyable
>>541559208Games are only fun if there's an interesting world to explore.
>>541559970Chess also employs the curious mechanic that each piece in play can one shot each other piece. This extraordinary power is balanced by number of type and maneuverability of each type. It's why the difficulty is so brutal but also why it's still a great game after more than 500 years. Modern games make you go through a helpless phase and limit the deadly actions your character can take. Not every piece can hurt or even interact with every other piece, so to speak. In chess, even a group of pawns can force a king to surrender. In pretty much every other game such play is disallowed. Chess is unironically more realistic because of such a potent mechanic.
>>541559208Kek so glad to hear someone say this. I get only a few hours a week to myself, thought “oh I’ll go boot up a game” and was exhausted at every title I looked at
>>541566321>current gf is into gooner game modsSkyrim/Fallout or Rimjob World?
>>541567595Nah it's part of the gay acceleration pysop bs theil and co are pushing
>>541559410This this this Less free infinite cheap time where eyo are soooooo bored with tons of friends that are all also sooooo bored you can have sleepovers and stay up all night killing hookers, homeless, gays, and crack dealers(we had no memory card n didn't wanna do the beginning missions over and over again) In all honesty op: switch to roguelikes but be wary: (traditional) roguelikes are like anime and most suck. But you can start/stop at any moment, playthrough to completion is usually 2-4 hours. Even caves of qud that plays like fallout2 can be completed in a few hours.
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>>541565634Because when child: offline multiplayer gamesWhen grow up: no time or friends, simulator games explore potential jobs or make a job seem fun. It's therapy for engineers in isolation
>>541559208>begin to feel like s choreStop playing shit vidya. The games that simulate real life are fot npcs
>>541566333Mario kart hasn't been good since the first one. Diddy Kong racing and crash team taxing can come too.
>>541559741meanwhile the (((bible))) commands you to believe like a little child and not lean on your own understanding
>>541562453Metal Gear solid 5 is the last game I really enjoyed to play .I'm gonna also try soon the Witcher 3
With shooters the competitive minmaxxing is a big sin of it. Multiplayer, that is. As much as people rag on fortnite or roblox, and I play neither, I respect either for resembling the WC3 custom maps or counterstrike _ratz or slide/skiing maps where it's people making their own fun. More games should do that.>>541564798>When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways. 12Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.Funny shit is as CS lewis noted, endlessly preening about not being childish is a very childish thing to do. Not that he'd condone being lost in fantasy, he has a very smart remark about the dangers of the harem of the mind (one I am about to indulge in myself).
>>541562354Who the fuck needs to “save up” for a console? Are you 13?
>>541568249I think it's less lack of time and more the time spent doing it. If you were 13 playing GTA:SA you probably weren't old enough to play VC or GTA3, so this was a brand new experience. If you're 33 playing GTA6 (I am sure my math is not adding up, you get the idea) then you've had 20 years of playing GTAs.
>>541559208There are still a few good video games each year.But yeah, almost every AAA is so thoroughly spiritually flat because of the psychological optimization theories and death-by-committee that none are worth playing. But a handful of indie games make it through the noise and it gaming survives in its pure form.
>>541559208when you start to play modern slop and never stop. this is why normies should have never been invited to the lan party
>>541565849>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4158350/Eclipse_Town/>coming soon.Are you the developer or something?
>>541559741>When I became a man, I still talked to children
>>541559208I would say open world realistic maps killed it, but DayZ mod was one of the great games of all time and was huge. I think the thing that really killed games for me is the lack of challenge. Instead of making quests which require increasingly more skill, they just become more laborious and time consuming. The goal is accessibility, which means making completion possible by a foid. This creates the possibility of selling boosts to reduce completion time.
>>541562453>Anichamber made the listOkay, this is a trustworthy collection.
>>541559208It's not about modern gaming. GTA has always been an extremely primitive film.
>>541559208I initially loved the original Shogun Total War. Then I noticed it built to a huge crisis and then I finally destroyed my #1 enemy and it became a long mopping up operation of conquering fortresses. BoringAnd Rome Total War was micromanging a huge empire. I can now understand why emperors went insane. It's fucking boring. Ditto for STALKER. Boring; killing monsters. That's it.The only one that really amused me was ARMA2 and ARMA3 but with Hetman Artificial Leader mod which was amazing. If there's a good AI leader built into Arma4 I'll buy it. Or not. In the end it's always about just shooting someone so...
>>541559208it's because you niggers play slop like CoD, Battlefield (remember the "omg battlefield is so back" marketing campaign?) and other garbage when there are plenty of great games being made by small and medium devs and publishers. No More Room in Hell is a new release and it's extremely good.
>>541571167Now you mention it, there's been a new modification for Rome and Medieval 2 Total War.Basically some devs have managed to crack the exe open and recompiled the code so they can now modify everything that was previously hardcoded and limited.Just as an example, there was a maximum faction and province count limit. Those limits have been removed.The games were 32-bit. They're now 64-bit, which means they can use more than 4GB of memory (no more large address aware needed).The turn times in the original game were kinda slow even with fast PCs. They're instant now. Absolutely instant. Blink and it's done, that's how fast.But there are other changes available too, like improved lighting, making the games DX11, new graphics settings so you can max out level of detail and keep every 3D model rendered at any distance, and improved scripting support.The famous LOTR mods and other mods like Europa Barbarorum II and Stainless Steel HIP can be made much, much more advanced and larger in scale.Oh yeah, they fixed the pike issues with Medieval 2.And they improved firearm units so they're less shit.And they're working on 40-unit armies, as evidenced by someone mentioning a UI experiment for it.Now's the time to play those Total War games, even if you didn't particularly like the endgame back in the day.
>>541571378Over The Top WW1 is underrated.Imagine Mount & Blade or Holdfast in WW1 but it's faster, there's machine guns and artillery, there are tanks and biplanes, officer airstrikes and gas attacks, and you can dig your own trenches and build fortifications.The game was a little rough at launch but now the US faction is available it's insanely fun and runs well.
>>541559208>at what ageVideo games stop being fun after an IQ of 115
>>541572062>forgotThe mod's called REX / M2EX.Since it's a deep framework, it's compatible with most existing mods.
>>541566199>Before ZOG the only way to get "laid", as you put it, was to get married.No, you are just another retarded Zoomer idiot who thinks he knows everything but doesn't actually know shit about fuck. Your understanding of what things were like in the past is really based on Hays Code censorship. The sexual revolution wasn't when people first started fucking around outside of marriage, it was just the first time they didn't try to be sneaky about it. When people say prostitution is the world's oldest profession, it's because it was literally the first thing anyone started doing as a job vs just like hunting and gathering. Literally every town had some kind of low key brothel or whorehouse, some "boarding house" that was always filled with random single women from somewhere else. Teenagers have been sneaking around and fucking each other since the beginning of time. You know the trope of high school kids going to some secluded area and parking a car and sitting in it? You were supposed to understand that they were there to fuck. Your parents and grandparents and great grandparents weren't actually virgins who waited until their marriage night to have sex.
