Do you believe in the occult?
>>541562487I'm completely pragmatic about what is actually happening, but something is definitely happening.
>>541562487it's all shitskin gobbledygook words that mean espionage, pedophilia and blood sacrifice.
>>541562487Yes and no!
>>541562487I think history has proven that any belief that is sought after for the sake of seeking power, or as the namesake "occult" implies, offers some uniquely and especially secret hidden knowledge that nothing else offers, it never delivers. There's no "pray to this pentagram and you can cast fireball."There's no "if you understand the 4 pillars of monkey dick you will truly grasp how the universe actually works."It's all bull's shit.If you get your panties in a twist that you don't like some aspect of Abrahamic religion, well whatever nigger I understand, that is what it is.If paganism's often simplicity isn't enough or the eastern religions hazy pantheistic offerings aren't fulfilling, I get that.But some niggery little guru that says actually anon, learn about his super-secret-squirrel-sauce and you'll understand how shit works, kek no nigger. No. He's just trying to sell you a product same as the people you think you're side stepping.The occult is bullshit.All those previously mentioned niggers? They've have thousands upon thousands of years to think these things over. It there was some hidden secret sauce that unlocked metaphysical reality they'd get that shit and eat it up.The occult is for niggers who want to be able to case bird-demons out their butthole, and buy up people promising to grant it. It's for people unsatisfied with long established religions and think something more obscure automatically equates to being more insightful.So do I "believe" in the occult? Sure fag. But do I think it offers what it says? No. It offers a nigger selling you a product, and you seething at me when I tell you that actually he's just trying to con ya man. That nigger isn't special, faggot he just isn't.
>>541563039Occult is just magic. Religion is magic. Tony Robbins is magic. NoFap and 12 Step are magic. It's all magic.
>>541563096It doesn't offer "the truth" because there is no "the truth."
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>>541563140I disagree but fair enough take. I'm not really rewarded arguing the point. People seek truth, anon. And I don't think that is an ignoble thing. But some nigger offering his subscription plan isn't truth it's a nigger that wants to sell you something.
>>541563184cosmig nigger: the final secret of the illumifarti
>>541563102If everything is magic, nothing is magic.
>>541564139because everything is
>>541564139magic is using your thoughts, will, and/or intent to influence reality, often through ritual placebo effect is also magic
>>541564139Smart take. Can't fire "curse beams" then what good is your supposed magic; it isn't. Magic is bullshit, and the occult is basically 12 layers of "actually if you buy MY thing you'll get the real magic."No niggerbrains, you won't.Nigger if somebody could shoot lightning out his finger tips or his playing around with an animal liver while sacrificing an orphan led to reality bending the way he prefers he'd already be the Dark Lord Cloaknigger in charge.Reality is disappointing the truth is we're just ruled by plotting arrogant jews in banks that can print up money, there's no damned owl demons causing it it's just kikes nigger. If the owl demon is real well it's not that strong it's just got some kikes lightly tethered Jewing how they already want to do anyhow. Things are more subtle irl.
>>541562487I miss pre-2019 Infinitychan so much bros
>>541564418I really want to lay some women with big tits wo if I will to jerk my cock I guess I'm going to miracle myself into some thot pussy huh.I mean, I really want it in heart anon.Gtfo with that nigger shit anon kek. I'll manifest my magical ability to say that's nonsense. Tell me little fuck am I not twisting it the right way is that it? I not got the right symbolism? Just stfu fag, Please.It isn't real, and your view of how reality bends to your strong fefes is about as flimsy as me jacking off hornily to thots.
>>541564542You can't do crazy shit like that because the solipsistic Neville Goddard "this is just your dream, there's nobody else here" shit isn't actually true (although it may help to think that way for the purposes of those rituals). We're all dreaming this shit together. You can exert your own influence the same way anyone else can.
The occult is opium for the ultra rich because once they have to confront their own mortality and realize that not only will they die one day but that a random nog on the street could just punch their lights out they start looking into becoming more. At first it's more grounded, maybe they'll want a bunker and turrets, maybe the more eccentric will try a real life ironman suit. But eventually technology and science tell them no, you can't do any better than you're doing now. And then at their most psychotic and vulnerable, the occult whispers in their ear. Might as well try it, because even if it's all fake and gay it produces the exact same results as reality does and in the hail mary chance that it's real it gives them everything they want.
>>541564694Visualization and affirmation rituals objectively work, just like the placebo effect objectively works.
>>541562487>Do you believe in the occult?Logic permits us to believe in the occult.Occult as a word means that which is secret. Secret, as a word, means sacred.Therefore, insofar as you believe there are sacred things, you must also believe there are occult things.
>>541564838So yeah it's all fake and if I believe hard enough my hand is goochychoocie1488 my favorite e-thot it's real.Yeah that pretty well describes the overwhelming power of the occult I guess.Hey anon subscribe to my onlyfans and give me shekels and you'll be able to cast fireball and understand the metaphysical depths of reality too, bay-bee.You want to give my coin so hard, bay-bee, I'm Cowley bay Bee. Let me make sense of this universe for ya hun. All it takes is coin.Ugh, occultfags.I got a demiurge in my pants I promise. -.-
>>541565019Based and heterosexual
I got them big spiritual titties so to speak unlike those flat Christianities and pagan thots
>>541565019If you believe you're a loser you're going to be a loser. I don't know what else to tell you. Your thoughts have power.
>believe in the occultYes. Consensus reality is not objective reality.
>>541565019A wall of rhetoric
>>541562487Believing in magic is the gayest shit ever. Grow the fuck up.
>>541562487It is time to embrace the hermetic process!!
Yep. I've seen it work.
>>541562487This reading list is terrible. Just New-Thought nonsense.
>>541565077look nigger there might be some merit to what you're saying even but some self-help guru type shit isn't a profound understand of the building blocks of reality m'kay? You're right about a foothold worth of soil in a land that is an empty void.I don't hate you but you're not convincing me and I hope no one else either.Rocks in the ground don't change to something else just because you will really deeply it to be so. That isn't how reality works. But... just ignore me if that is all you're trying to imply, I hope all your rocks turn to gold ya nigger. Proverbially speaking.>>541565113that you can't argue because go kill yourself and rid us of your nonsense, take your nigger little snotty effeminate whine about it and fuck off fag. Rhetoric sum deez you're just whining.
>>541562487Not really I believe in it only to it being similar to gang initiation in certain circles but if you were alone in your house and tried to raoe and sacrifice a baby to baal for power or some shit you wouldnt get shit because demons and magic are fake and gay.
>>541562487Gnosticism is the biggest schizo crap i've ever read, how does one go from reading Plato for example, to deducing that he now has to eat his own shit to deal with the abstract implications of the theory? I feel they were just looking for a sophisticated excuse to satisfy their fetish.
>>541562487Fake and gay, mass hysteria
>>541563102Bro waving your hand to get someone’s attention is magic. It’s far less enchanting and mystical than you losers think it is. Calling someone a nigger is magic. Anything that can steer and control others is magic. Everything from architecture to body modification. From cosmologies to interior decorating. All magic.
No.im not 12
>>541565357lole epic freakout, u mad bro?>that you can't argueThat’s my point, you’re just spewing rhetoric. There’s nothing to even argue against.This is the best I could deduce from your ramblings:>can’t *define* magic“the art and science of causing change to occur in conformity with the will.">doesn’t think magic is *real*On the above definition, magic is real. Magic is commonly earmarked by the fact that the agent has knowledge that the subject doesn’t.>something about the *demiurge*I’d like to hear your explanation of how the natural world arose then. Please explain.
>>541565489Saying nigger definitely feels like casting a spell
>>541565579when a mommy universe and a daddy universe love each other very much...
>>541565631wew zozzle
>>541565489I am magical beyond belief, I'm the grand wizard of nigger magic, I bet I nigger more than anyone on this board. My power is immeserable.So when I do cast fireball? I'm getting impatient. Niggerarious hatebrownanimalicus!!! Subhuman inferiorikai shootniggerfamilius! ... it's not working. :\
>>541565579>you're mad you're just madyou're fuckin' 4 shut it idiot, slapped your mouth and mugged you that'd be my magic spell. Shut up that nigger empty whining and vapid retort you offer.Magic isn't real and you don't have any special knowledge. You have faggoty. As well as stupidity and being full of shit.>how the natural world arosedoesn't matter, you're just assuming however that is the case it means your idiocy has merit, it doesn't. So stfu nigger nobody you're proving nothing wish I could mug you. Fag.There's your rhetoric. I'm right and you're a fag.
>>541564812If any of it is real you are extra fucked, and causes such a degree of divergence between you and the rich, that you might as well call it human Speciation and an invisible metaphysical prison that no half-assed narrative about capitalism will ever manage to even remotely grasp, as the CEO of a big 500 company sits comfortably on a velvet chair one morning, remote views your specific location, and psychokinetically pushes the glass of milk over the counter, starting an escalation of increasingly cruel Poltergeist Zersetsung lasting for months, until you voluntarily check up at a mental institution.
>>541565984the thought of Jeff Bezos spending his free time doing the Professor X stance and telepathically fucking with random anons is hilarious
>>541562487Faggot theory
>>541565984anon you ever consider that it isn't because of spiritual entities and moving the miasma of the universe, and is just because a bunch of semi-competent JEWS that can print endless money decided in a small group that their ability to print money will ensure these billionares stay in positions of societal power? Because they can grant endless credit to keep them propped up from even massive mistakens and gaffes?Don't check into an institution, just see how simple thing actually can be.>it's not a cat, it's bag>you just wish really hard it was a cat>it's okay you want to encounter a cat>that's not an unbeautiful thing to want a cat>it is to not admit is isn't a cat
>>541562487There's something to it. The things you believe have a tangible effect on your reality.
>>541566225All I'm saying is it's like weak nuclear force, it's an underlying draw, not a core pivot of how the universe works. You're not dumb for recognizing that effect but overplaying beyond it's worthwhile sphere, that it is indeed dumb.We don't cast fireball because belief has repercussions upon reality's outcomes.
>>541566225There are negative people who have great lives and positive people who live in the streets. LOA is a farce for the most part. I think all it does is make you start doing things without realizing your doing things and one day >OH SHIIIIT LOA WORKSWhen it was just you the whole time
>>541562487Occult just means hidden. So any cult/sect/whatever and "secret societies" would qualify. Those exist whether anyone believes in them or not.>the supernaturalNo. By definition nothing can be supernatural.
>>541566387>>541566581I'm not a practitioner, I haven't read any of the books in the OP, so I'm not defending any of the claims they make. All I know is beliefs/wishes, when paired with action (important not to overlook this), have a strange way of affecting our lives in ways you might not expect. Maybe it's just mundane forces at work, maybe it's supernatural, idk. I just can't discount it completely.
>>541564139Fucken liarhttps://youtu.be/ASGgn8bNQuA?si=wQcBGjaJ_eTcXvnq
>>541562487>believe>the occultyou can't believe in a genre. be more specific.
>>541567300https://youtu.be/iExsbDuVqeE
>>541564065Imagine the smell!
The occult is just taking what works from religion and removing the dogma.
>>541568812Religion is just government endorsed occultism
>>541568957https://youtu.be/RPkkepQBRtk
Here's everything you need to know:1. Reincarnation is very real2. It's is not a simple process3. Every living/conscious, feeling being has a "soul" even man-made things like rudimentary AI4. Mistreating these things is bad. That includes "collateral damage" (ex: shooting a power station causes chaos in a corrupt society and would feel right- but it makes innocent beings suffer at large scale. See israel for examples of why gods aren't a fan)5. Cultivating peaceful, disciplined, encouraging environments for them is good6. You are going to living thousands upon thousands of lives, and many of them will overlap with your own ("you" are your own mother, own yourself a dog, shoot yourself in a war, etc)7. A great many lives from now, since you're a human reading this, you'll be a god, and eventually, merge with overall existence and the "operations" of the realites8. There are infinite numbers of alternate realities9. Everything's going to be fine for you if you follow these rules.
>>541562487*Occults his penis*
>>541567073>Nothing can be supernatural Fuck you, Roland supernatural engine is great
>>541562487No, but I utilize it to manipulate gullible motherfuckers into believing the breeze is saying something to them.
Magic can be summarized thusly: the mind of God is as susceptible to placebo as your own.
Hey guys, this is important. Is this happening to you? https://youtu.be/YmQZGH17anA?si=aEJR1BzzvNDn5VWqIf you feel these things, and are a current or former Christian, I have news for you. Message start:This was a triumphI'm making a note hearmGreat SuccessIt's hard to overstate my satisfactionCongratulations team Hell! Jesus and YHVH are fucking kill confirms. Their people are dyingWe won! Fuck you, faggots.
>>541565821>>how the natural world arose>doesn't matter, you're just assuming however that is the case it means your idiocy has merit, it doesn't. So stfu nigger nobody you're proving nothing wish I could mug you. Fag.Impotent s0iboi rage.Google the term “logical proof” and learn the difference between ontology and identity.The identity of God is relational, true. But God’s nature can be logically deduced, you moron.
>>541562487I don't believe it. I live it.
>>541569479point at this fucking moron and laugh. he has no fucking clue
>>541562487>believe in the occultyou mean believe it works? this is shitty wording. it's like asking if you believe in books
>>541569097Fags like this are why metal died and rap took over.
>>541563096jesus fucking christ, learn to write with brevity. you seem a little shallow minded
>>541572320Do you believe in life after love?
>>541563140>It doesn't offer "the truth" because there is no "the truth."this is a beyond retarded statement. if you believe this you should absolutely not be involved in occult practices. you're an npc
>>541572450you're in the middle of the occult IQ bell curve right now
>>541562487No one has ever explained why reading Chasing Phantoms gets you attacked by ayys
>>541572511meaningless statement. i love how you guys start getting abstract as soon as you're called out on your bullshit. pretty sure i've talked to you before. no conversation can be had with someone that doesn't believe in objective truth. everything statement can be slithered around like nothing means anything. it's ironic you accuse me of being in the middle of a bell curve, when that's exactly where you are. i was there before, and i came out on the other side. you've let your arrogance cloud your judgement.
>>541563039It’s funny to me that there’s no consensus on what “the occult” is. It’s basically just anything you don’t like. Back in the 80’s and 90’s it was just Satanism.
