how many times must (((economic nationalists))) destroy living standards?
>>541565337America funded it's whole government with tariffs and corporate taxes before income taxes.
you lost tranny
>>541565337I cant afford imported goods because my job was outsourced.
>>541565337Tariffs work for everyone else though
Governments should, straight up, coerce the citizenry to buy a more inferior, locally produced version of the same product that they can get in cheaper and better form from abroad. Fuck Ricardo and fuck comparative advantage, fuck free trade, the social good of providing stable employment and the ability to own a house and raise a family is more important than the marginal advantage the consumer derives from getting a slightly better orange or air conditioner from 5,000 miles away. Just use a state church or something if you're worried about the citizenry becoming lazy or content with mediocrity, work ethic and innovativeness are not some ineffable mysterious qualities, just develop them deliberately
>>541565337Tariffs being good or not is largely irrelevant when they’re being wielded by a failure of a businessman who does shit like raise them because he gets butthurt by a commercial Any actual use they might have goes out the window
>>541566172Fuck LIBERALISM, it is so FUCKING pretentious to psychologically conceive of other people as these like atoms floating in space who either have "gumption" or "work ethic" or not (implicitly being extremely self-satisfied that you exhibit them), are you fucking twelve that you just appreciate these qualities about yourself in your head and bobble your head smugly like a pajeet? OTHER PEOPLE ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, your fucking brain is wired for this as a pro-social primate, it is deeply satisfying to care for and improve the people around you if you're not literally a sociopath with a brain malfunction. We're supposed to be like fucking ferrets chittering softly and warmly around each other, highly attentive to each other's deficits and nudging each other with our noses to encourage each other to be better. How do you construct an entire society on the principle of being some chuuni faggot who's like "heh, they don't even understand my power", it is fucking mind boggling, genocide all liberals immediately
>>541565640>>541565647>>541565792>>541566106>>541566172So I take it you're enjoying drumpf's egg prices
>>541567044Eggs are domestic products in the USA but yes US egg prices are at historic lows right now. Down to 1/20th the price from Biden times.
>>541567044$2.30 for 18 ex large sure its pretty good, couldent find any jumbo though yesterday.
>>541565337Show your flag bitch
>>541565337>Every single country IN THE WORLD has tariffs>United Nation / World Trade Org literally >has a public website with all tariffs>EVERY SINGE Country has tariffs, and uses them to protect their markets>from big corpos, cheap chinese junk etc. >this british mi6 agent on VPN claims this doesn't exist and its badWe know what's bad is that British large corporations, and british OFFSHORE banks now getting less billions of $ hidden in them. You can cry moar about it. You british mi6 glowies are making pol DUMBER literally every day with your stupidity and low iq threads. https://ttd.wto.org/en
>>541567044>low iq retard, keeps repeating retarded failed bullshit. Read here, retard. >>541570157
>>541565640funding the whole government meant very little before the twentieth centuryorgs like the FDA, and benefits like Medicaid, just didn't exist back then so our expenses were much lower
>>541565337Tarrifs hurt consumers, but there's more to an economy than just consumers. Half the towns in this country were built around a mine, mill, or factory that has been shut down and shipped overseas. Nothing left to do but smoke meth and die.>>541566172>comparative advantageOf which 99% is countries artificially keeping their currency weak and slave labor. So much for "living standards."
>>541570157Applying tariffs to destroy essential goods production capabilities is different than just applying tariffs to balance some structural deficiency in a specific market. Listen to Carney's press conference, he readily admits some tariffs made sense under certain conditions, and he would have accepted them. The argument for essential goods protectionism goes beyond the economic, it is a question of safety and sovereignty. If your country cannot produce milk, bread, butter, etc on its own, it is at risks of actual, real, for realzies, famine. Not "the prices are high! I have to run to the store twice more just ot catch toilet paper on the shelves!". No, actual, people dying in the streets, famine. No argument about "oh but its unfair to american producers" will ever change that fact. Free trade was never supposed to be about completely abandoning all forms of protectionist policies.
>>541565640This is not a relevant point and you need to stop bringing it up.The United States is not on a gold standard or a silver standard. It has a fiat, floating, non-convertible currency. It funds itself simply by spending money into existence. Taxes are just to reverse that process. At the federal level, taxes do not generate revenue despite what they tell you. At lower levels, they do because lower order governments do not issue the currency.Tariffs serve a function to maintain capability. They very well may lead to higher costs domestically, but they also serve to plug GDP leak (that is money that stops circulating domestically).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q8c9Z7Dexshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipeG-QQXEsThese are 2 good videos to watch, approaching the subject from slightly different perspectives. I would say that Mosler is not wrong in the abstract, but he does admit "the problem is if the imports go away".
>>541570157le "other countries do it! why can't we" is peak Trump brainrot. other countries are not doing well. Trump keeps saying other countries are dumps, and then he uses what other countries do as an argument. do his followers really not even notice the contradictions?the US became better than other countries by having a free market, and is only weak when it comes to industries in which the free market is being undermined by corruption, such as housing, healthcare, and inflation.Trump has similar economic policy to countries he calls shitholes, and is making the US similar to them, all while calling those countries shitholes and bragging about having all the cards, which he does because some of his predecessors were not like him and did a better job.
>>541567467They were on sale for 75 cents/dozen last week.
>>541570157>MI6 is in my walls
>>541572028>Applying tariffs to destroy essential goods production capabilitiesLow iq retard. It DOESN'T, it protects LOCAL MARKETS and local manufacturers. For instance, Canada has 270% tariff on American milk products. This 270% tariff on american milk products protects canadian small farmers against, likely, subsidized american corporations who can produce milk a lot cheaper.if there was no tariffs, american cheap milk would flow into Canada, fill all stores, and then canadian farmers would likely go bankrupt.
>>541573037What , moron? Go there: https://ttd.wto.org/en
