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WTF IS WRONG WITH AMERICANS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/08/26/federal-judge-warns-law-is-being-left-behind-by-ai-sex-abuse-images/
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>>541586160
thats actually very reasonable.
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>>541586160
If it was illegal it would be antisemitic.
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>>541586160
csam is wrong because the child has not reached an age where the majority are able to give informed consent and understand that he long term consequences or because the person doing the abuse is in a position of power and using coercion or manipulation. Something ai generated harms absolutely no one. No victim no crime
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Why should that be illegal. Its thought-crime tier. Theres no proof viewing cartoons turns into real harm. Conservative types have a long history of turning their personal disgust into laws
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>>541586160
mazel tov!
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It's unenforceable to make anyone a criminal based on some pixels that a bot generates. They're especially.ficked because literally everyone at /g/ who is good at AI omage generation is a pdf file.
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While on the surface it may appear reasonable, this is probably just to protect the US' beloved AI social experiment.
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Good day for lolicons too
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>>541586160
No! My shekels!!!
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>>541586501
So AI images of real.choldren are okay? An image is not a chold whether it is a photo, a painting, or AI generated.
How can you ban or allow ome and not the other?
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>PRoN
kek
Anyway, just allow the images and lynch the kid touchers. Am I missing something?
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>>541586160

Pedo leaders, pedo rules.
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>>541586160
Being in possession of an AI generated image should be an automatic death sentence.
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>>541586852
Not really. But this is an issue where the prude among us want legislation that outlaws things they dislike. That's an ancient problem law and order has tried to deal with over the centuries. Mob rule, basically
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>>541586160
Where is the child that was harmed? There is no child, you advocate for thought crimes.
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>>541586883
>Artificial Intelligence Derangement Syndrome
sounds like someone has a case of the AIDS. enjoy it!
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>>541586726
i wonder what actual pedophiles think of lolicons
like serial killers thoughts on other serial killers
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>>541586160
One would think law enforcement should have bigger priorities than some basement dwellers spinning their GPUs to make pixels.
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>>541586938
found the pedophile right here boys
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Why only AI?
In NH the guys say they have a right to any printed document no matter how foul. Then a argument is made that there are victims. SFW 1A doesnt include victims? Bullshit. MRNA Death to all pigs.
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>>541586160
Based. Cunny is a human right
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AI-GENERATED CHILDREN ARE BEING HARMED

THAT JUDGE IS A SICK FUCK
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>>541586160
the land of the free pedophiles
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>>541586929
Yes they have always used "save the children" as a slippery slop to "shut it down"
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>>541586757
ai images of real people that are used to harass, threaten, intimidate, or relentlessly mock a victim are already illegal
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>>541587039
Pure feminist energy. Bitter old feminist whores invented pedophilia because they were mad that no man wanted them. So they made it illegal to have any alternative. You are so deep in feminism you don't even realize it. Its not normal to be attracted to used up old roast.
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>>541586160
Actually reasonable. If it’s AI generated no abuse occurred so it is not CSAM by definition.
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i called the epstein files & pedo hysteria a psyop that will lead to the complete normalization of pedophilia as a shitpost
why is it coming true?
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>>541586993
it's probably similar to how zoophiles look at furfags: tolerated as an umbrella community - barely.
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Well Japan has less rapes than western countries but allowed lolicon and shotacon. one of the notable animes called boku no pico even has pederasty, but it's a cartoon so no one's getting hurt.

real child porn wasn't illegal in japan until 2014 but still it's the safer country.
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>>541586160
This is just the latest step on the ladder to roko's basilisk.
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>>541586160
If AI generated porn of fake people equates to "child abuse" then violent movies and video games equates to real murder.
Giving the state the power to destroy you over thought crimes is quite possibly the dumbest thing you could ever do, and you're doing it in the name of imaginary people.
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>>541586757
>of real children
No. It says they may not depict a real person. This is a ruling that makes sense legally, but will be a clusterfuck to enforce. You'd be relying on the "expertise" of law enforcement to distinguish AI from photos.
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>>541586160
Most judges are jewish and the courts have opposed the Trump admin to the point that "judicial crisis" has become a common reference. Trumps massive deregulation is simply dissolving long standing power held by the admin and judicial and puts these decisions back in the hands of the States and Congress. The judicial branch is fighting back with nonsense like this. All CSAM is harmful because it creates predators through exposure and satisfaction of desire.
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>>541586160
You lost tranny! MAGA!
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>>541586160
not even surprised with our epstein admin
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>>541586160
>in the home
So phone users will still get snagged.
That's funny
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>>541586160
America's golden age has arrived.
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>>541586757
Here's the real hot take:
Images of cp should be treated as evidence of a crime and NEVER be considered illegal, ever, under any circumstance, real or bot. The reason it is considered illegal is because women hate it when men get pleasure, and so they have to ban things that give men pleasure.

The real crime is someone fucking or exploiting their kid. That is the real crime that should be punished. We the public should be able to view the evidence of that crime without making a crime ourselves so we KNOW a person is guilty/innocent. This is fundamental to justice. If the pics of the crime are illegal to view, how do we know the crime actually occurred? Spoiler: we don't and government is fundamentally untrustworthy and has proven itself untrustworthy over and over again, past, present, AND will keep doing so.

Not to mention feds have back doors to fuck over people just by giving them botted images. That isn't crime or crime prevention, that is dystopic character assassination of dissidents the govt doesn't like. In this world it is highly immoral to give the feds the power to jail people for images of a not crime. That power fundamentally should not exist and anyone using it should be executed in a civil society.

If you fucks don't push back against this, women will make being male and having sexy thoughts illegal. They want to so fucking bad, and simps will let them. Being a eunuch in the future will be the only way to escape jail. You might not care for loli, and neither do I, but if shit doesn't stop they WILL come for you because they hate you. They tell you they hate you DAILY in the media over and over. They will strip you of all your rights and enslave you because of that hate.
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>>541586160
Ban AI
Ban Flock
Arrest Trump
Simple as.
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What if I specify in the prompt that she only looks 14 and is actually 21
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>>541587355
Satire is just reality that's a few years early.
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>>541586160
>It the material does not depict a real person
If that's the criteria, then why the fuck is anyone made? It's explicitly prohibiting anything going after REAL kids.
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>>541586160
How is this any different from discussions about loli hentai? If it's not based on a real person, how is the AI image any different from a drawing? One is a person drawing it, the other is a computer making it, that's it
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>>541586160
You can't protect the rights of children that literally do not exist. Good call on that ruling.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO PEDOS NEED PUNISHMENT NO MATTER WHAT AAAAAAAAAAAA
Pedo shaming is out of fashion. Go push back against mass migration.
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>>541587659
next thing you know they'll legalize child nudity as "art"
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Why are pajeets so ugly and stupid?
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>>541586160
all pedophiles must be drawn, quartered and disemboweled effective immediately
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>>541587640
Not very reasonable, because there are plenty of cases where we cannot personally inspect the relevant evidence, or verify the legitimacy, or the chain of custody, or whatever. Most crimes don't happen on camera in the first place, after all.
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>>541586757
AI images of children are okay as long as a real child with verifiable identity is not being used as reference. Have you ever looked at how branded product advertisement works? A huge portion of the people talking in those videos are not even real. Same shit in this case.
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>>541587029
Nope, nigger crime is accepted and politically protected. That means all those jackboots need something to get white people on. And looking at pixels is perfect. Just slip some illegal pixels in on some gooner's PC via jeetsoft's backdoors and mac's backdoors, and ta da! New white simp slave for the slave prison system. Even better if autistic, they can slave for free on whatever widget the prison has them make for corporations.

Meanwhile the nigger murderer will get let go after a psych eval diagnoses murder as a response to systemic racism that does not exist.
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>>541587809
Human-drawn obscenity can survive the Miller Test, and thus may be distributed. AI-generated stuff shouldn't reach that hurdle, even with this ruling.
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>>541587877
My state (Massachusetts) already does that.
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>>541586160
I really hate it, but if they use that to get off instead of diddling, and children are never harmed in any way because of it, then I guess it is the lesser evil.
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>>541587881
we have established scientifically, human evolution was driven by our diets of heavy fats and protein, what then would a race of humans who subsisted entirely on shit be like, well for the curious, indians are a stunning example of what happens when a race evolves without fat and protein but rather shit
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>>541586160
>what's wrong

Not much, apparently
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>>541586160
lmao based. ai is not real humans, retard.
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>>541587355
It's the left that are the hyper moral zealots now. They're doing the very thing they used to hate the right for doing.
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>>541587563
Libshits seethe!
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>>541588021
>mfw i was joking
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>>541586993
Pedos think of lolicon as part of the same community. Lolicon think of pedos as depraved criminals because virtue signalling about "muh 2D protects real children" is literally the only reason they haven't been prosecuted globally.
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>>541586993
>>541587371
Probably the same as what actual race car drivers think of racing simulator enthusiasts. Like sure what you're doing is much safer and much more affordable but you're also only getting a small fraction of the enjoyment.
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>>541586160
Is there any restrictions on the extent of realism?
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>>541586160
It's good also in the sense that fagwad alphabet agencies won't be able to plant kitten porn on your computer as easily anymore because they hate you in particular or you are politically inconvenient. Not that I am worthy of their ire or jerk my meat to lolis, but only that this has a silver lining.
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So what about the practical question of how anyone is going to tell whether it's real or not? Is "I thought it was AI" a defence?
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>>541587402
Yep, but that would throw all the women who masturbate to True Crime in jail if we went after violence. Can't have that, women cannot be held accountable. That is why making cp illegal is retarded, foids literally masturbate to crime shit it's the same fucking thing but magically legal for them to do.
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>>541586160
>ai generated
Fuck off retard, mudsharts are raping kids all the time in your joke of a country and you do nothing, you are not a man.
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>>541586563
>personal disgust
Wrong. The elite hates that the normal layman has unrestricted access to children because they are jewish sacrifice material. There is nothing more evil than defiling an innocent child, and the evilness of the act itself is wielded as a magnet to attract wordly power and alter reality through Talmud magicks.
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>>541587983
>Not very reasonable, because there are plenty of cases where we cannot personally inspect the relevant evidence, or verify the legitimacy, or the chain of custody, or whatever. Most crimes don't happen on camera in the first place, after all.
And that shit is also wrong. All evidence should be publicly available to keep the government in line, they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt, prosecutorial misconduct is constant because they're allowed to hide evidence until it's far too late.
There is simply no reason anyone in government should have any privacy or expectation that they're allowed secrecy of any kind, it breeds corruption.
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Only reason they're doing this is because they have to protect the AI industry. The courts have gone out of there way and wrap themselves into pretzels to protecting AI companies. There's a reason why the government is held bent on AI acceleration and it's not for a good reason
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>>541586160
Brits would worry about making drawings illegal while doing nothing about Muslim rape gangs
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>>541586993
Just go on the darkweb and find out.
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>>541588335
What about the privacy of the victims?
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>>541586160
i mean, it's not real. but what about realistic ones?
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>>541587285
>he thinks it's normal to be sexually attracted to children, but not grown women
Lmao. Ok then. You're the first one for the woodchipper. We do feet first.
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>>541587355
This is not putting people in assrape pedo prison for AIslop you hysterical fuck.
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>>541588474
>What about the privacy of the victims?
Irrelevant, society and curtailing government overreach is far more important. Weighing the protection of the feelings of the very few against the safety and liberty of body politic itself.
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>>541588262
Scenario: a woman in her early 20's starts a OF account and cosplays as a young teenager. Nothing she is doing is illegal, she is of legal age.
But men who give her money to watch her do this are committing the same thought crime as the men who generate AI porn. They are fantasizing that she is underage, the fact that she isn't is irrelevant. She won't get into legal trouble, but the men will.
That's the slippery slope we are headed for if thought crime is accepted. And the feminists will be leading the charge in favor of these thought crime laws. Say goodbye to the first amendment.
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Based news and well deserved respite for all fans of the cute and funny.
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>>541588474
Victims forgo privacy if they want justice, period. This also works to keep down false accusations.
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>>541588479
The same thing applies, if it's not real then it's considered protected free expression.
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Don't care. Gays and brown people molest far more than lolicons. If people actually cared about children they're target those groups, and kikes.
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>>541587435
>creates predators through exposure and satisfaction of desire.
Except it scientifically does not, Japan proves that out. And if this principle was true, ALL media would get banned for being influence on humans. Fuck, human communication would be a nightmare in this scenario, thought crime would have to be a real thing because even talking about something would cause another human to go do it.

>oh so my sister got slapped by her BF
>He did? Shit I got to go slap my girlfriend right now!
>*thump thump thump, SLAP
>*woman crying
Thought crime causing real crime right there.

That is some crazy power to have over people. I don't think humanity would survive in that scenario. Humans actually jumping when someone said jump or a movie said jump would get a fuck ton of us killed real fast. All I need to do is tell you to go kill yourself and you'd actually do it no questions asked. All through the power of media.

The only faggots who think media=real world are shut in dweebs on the left who have low IQ. Any amount of real world experience debunks fantasy and media influence.

Just like I cannot trick you into KYS, media cannot trick people into violence, crime, or some form of fetish sexuality. I can't turn you into a faggot with fag porn right? Or can you not handle seeing a dick and have to go suck dick right now? I guess that works on lefty faggots, they have to see tranny men as real women, so they get fucked in the ass by "women". But that is on them allowing fantasy to rule their lives. No one else is like that. Even lefty women know MTFs are doing woman face, but they can't say so lest they get shat on socially.
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>>541586160
>and remains in the home
What does that even mean? You cant take your laptop out of your house?
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Another question is how does this apply to distribution, because it pretty much just covers possession right?
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>>541586501
Correct. You can find fictional images distasteful all you like but they should and must remain legal.
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>>541586993
While lolicon try to distance themselves from pedophiles, pedophiles try to establish equivalency and pull them in under the same umbrella. Pedophiles will call lolicon hypocrites for condemning pedophilia while themselves being interested in adjacent content.

While lolicon can be arguably considered a form of pedophilia, there's a definite distinction between the two groups in their opinions towards things like age of consent and CSAM, so trying to establish equivalency between the terms lolicon is a semantic argument that only muddles the waters.
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>>541588532
There are almost no women left in western society. There are only used up whores. There is a very big difference between these two things.
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>>541586160
>judge ruled
Those precedent applications are super complicated and you still need an expensive as fuck lawyer and millions of dollars wasted in court to enforce one of those. Especially if the ruling is fresh. And the ruling might be challenged later.
Brokie pedos won't benefit from this and will still get arrested. Get fucked, poors. The american law only serves the rich.
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>>541588802
When a man hits 18 he should be forced to have an EEG that gauges their attraction to children. This would function like a lie detector and protect children from potential pedos.
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>>541586993
I think hurting people is wrong so they probably think lolicons are hypocrites as cope to justify their behavior, since they don't believe they are doing something wrong.
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>>541588847
It doesn't cover distribution. Basically only localfags are safe.
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>>541586160
God bless America!
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>>541586993
Lolicon here
3dpd rules still apply
I don’t get off on irl kids
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>>541588847
It has gotten the legal weed treatment: it's okay as long as it doesn't make outside your home.
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>>541586160
>child sexual abuse material
>created using AI
hang journalists
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>>541589414
>It has gotten the legal weed treatment: it's okay as long as it doesn't make outside your home.
In other words, it's up to the states.
Works for me, I hate AIslop, but I'm fine if red states want to van people for drawings and slop, no skin off my nose.
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>>541586993
Pedophiles hate lolicons and have been trying the last 20 years to make lolicons completely illegal in all western countries.
Ask yourself why it is that all of these western countries known for child rape have simultaneously been the most extreme on passing laws making Japanese drawings illegal and doing nothing to stop harm against real 3D children.
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>>541586160
I'm all fapped out now though. And my T is low now. My body isn't producing any. This came too late for me.
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They hate men for fapping to fake children while they praise women for killing real ones. Both are wrong, but it's the timing of misplaced priorities that makes the insanity of america perceived as more insane than it actually is.
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>>541586563
because being a pedophile should be punishable by death
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>abuse
>created with ai
I hate niggercattle
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>>541589744
Now replace "pedophile" with "antisemite."
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>>541587402
That's not really a 1 to 1 comparison, murder is murder because the end result is that someone is dead. CSAM is CSAM because there now exists a sexually compromising image of a child.

If you were posting innocent baby pictures on a porn website for people to beat off to that would still be CSAM even though when the images were created no child was "harmed". There's no comparable example for rape or assault or murder here...
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>>541589744
>Fictional Pedophiles

Total Foid Death.

Unfortunately, Freedom of Speech also includes expression and speech you disagree with, less we become a culture of barbarians who marry children at 12 and our child rape increases to 4000% like countries that ban Fiction.
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>>541586303
>This model that was trained on 1000 pictures of abused girls to create a new CGI pic is based and red pilled

----some boomer judge
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>>541589845
>If you were posting innocent baby pictures on a porn website for people to beat off to that would still be CSAM even though when the images were created no child was "harmed".
By that logic, that scene of Game of Thrones that was uploaded to all sorts of porn sites where Daenerys is getting fucked by Jason Momoa is CSAM since the character was 14 in-universe.
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>>541589927
> Provide Proof or it didn't happen.
Some foid.

You are the reason this shit can't even produce images that even look or resemble a woman or cartoon. Censorship is devilish.
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>>541586160
Fuck yeah. Libertarians were right all along. Now Made In Abyss won't be banned too
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>>541589927
>was trained on 1000 pictures of abused girls
Prove they are real and if they are, the model creator will still get punished. This law doesn't stop the prosecution of actual CSAM.
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>>541586160
>Using AI
So, it's not real. Therefore it's not CP.
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>>541590111
Ruling rather, not law.
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>>541590168
>Cope
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>>541586160
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE PIXELS
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>>541586160
Wait, a logical and reasonable judge?
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>>541589927
Get ready to be gutted zoomer!
The blade of boomer justice is going to disembowel you!
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>>541586160
That's not new, the US doesn't consider it CP if it doesn't depict a real minor. It's why Shadman got in trouble only fir depicting Keemstar's daughter.
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>>541589845
>If you were posting innocent baby pictures on a porn website for people to beat off to that would still be CSAM even though when the images were created no child was "harmed". There's no comparable example for rape or assault or murder here...
Don't you see how ridiculous that is? Distributing or downloading the exact same image becomes a crime solely based on what domain you're doing it from? It becomes "abuse" because you put it on the darkweb, but doing the exact same thing on facebook is a-ok?

No, child pornography is a problem because a real child was physically hurt. Any mental gymnastics puritans and zoomers go through to try and expand this definition so they have a wider demographic to persecute is ridiculous and should have been shut down long ago.
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Sounds like that judge has some bot-generated CP on his personal computer. I think this is grounds to do an early morning no-knock raid on his house to seize his electronics.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/BikiniBottomTwitter/comments/1w0z4ie/so_federal_courts_made_a_heck_of_a_ruling_today/
lmao redditors are seething and dilating on a nuclear level about this
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>>541590204
No proof, no conviction. Them's the brakes, kiddo.
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>>541590167
Yeah most the commonwealth works on a pretty arbitrary system where depicting a fictitious character underage is illegal. It's pretty open to legal abuse (all characters are 18 or older as a disclaimer, even though that obviously has no affect on the art) so mostly gets ignored.
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>>541586303
Pornography, like gambling and drugs, cannot be judged by regular laws because they expose flaws in how humans think. We are not rational actors and we fall into mental traps with some addictive vices. By allowing AI generated CP it will, one, mean pedophiles will be able to generate increasingly perverse stuff until they can no longer get off to porn and will be encouraged to seek out the real thing, and two, it will provide cover for people with traditional CP under the excuse "oh I was told it was AI."
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>>541590699
Just like grand theft auto led to the columbine shooting.
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>>541590699
This is flyover logic, so it can be ignored.
It's like saying that making a game with increasingly realistic gunplay in it will lead to more people going out and shooting people once shooting people in games is no longer fun.
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>>541586160

That's the same reading of the law that's been there for like almost 30 years. It was even looser when Mapplethorpe was doing upskirt pussy shots in the 80's on 3 year old girls and that shit hung in galleries. Oh and by the way please take a moment to enjoy America most famous child actress, Shirley Temple, talking about how two powerful kikes tried to stuff their dicks in her and her mama's mouth and completely got away with it. She names them and everything and the jew interview just laughs and laughs because he knows nothing will ever happen.
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>>541589845
It is a perfect comparison.
You are giving human rights to fictional characters. AI generated images are less real than movies filmed with real life actors but you want to imprison people for thoughts about fake people.
This is not an argument about AI generated images of real children. That is still illegal. This is criminalizing thoughts about fake people. Open that door and allow the government to criminalize thoughts and the Bill of Rights is gone. And that's what you are advocating for.
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Banning images of people that don't exist is a very slippery slop.

Some people look 13 at 20, and some look 20 at 13.
If the person doesn't really exist what age a prosecutor assigns is arbitrary.
Who determines what the age is of someone that does not exist? That is who then decides who goes to prison and is labeled for life.
But for a real person the standard is set and everyone knows what to adhere to and can then be punished in accordance without being arbitrary.
A legal system of fair justice requires keeping arbitray decisions as limited as possible.
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>>541586160
When a rich and powerful person is a pedo, the courts bend the knee. AI is the new rich and powerful person. Therefore the courts bent the knee to our new pedo overlords.
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>>541590872
Shirley Templeat 12.
Imagine being some jewish bigwig, standing naked in front of this girl and she laughs at you so hard she cries.
Probably happens to every jew at least once.
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>>541588802
Pedo cope, kill yourself.
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>>541589242
>>541591484
>Emotion over Logic.

Total Foid Death.

Sorry ladies, it's wrong to kill your children.

>Pedo Cope!

Sorry, what was that again? You want a barbaric society that lets you kill children and actually causes more child rape, and more laws to distract police and investigators away from real CP and onto fiction because your pussy hurts?

Grow the fuck up, I know you want to kill kids and hate them, but they deserve a life.
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>>541591484
you're not allowed to play videogames.

that's your fucking principle you moron.

i watched boku no pico 5 times because it's the only good anime on internet archive, and I still haven't fucked a little femboy dressing as a girl.

even though i jizzed so hard too it. like when hes in the car and spills icecream on himself and the grown up licks it off his hard nipples and fucks him.
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Interesting.
So "pedo" is the new "racist." This is Alinskyite projection 101.
The very same people who hold fag pride parades and drag shows where they expose themselves to children. The very same people who demand access to spaces where they can be alone with your children. The very same people who put sexually explicit books in children's libraries and demand to have "drag queen story time" with your children. The very same people giving children and dogs monkey pox.
These are the people calling you a pedo for not letting them redefine the first amendment so they can get rid of you for thought crimes.
Real fucking interesting.
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>>541591745
>i watched boku no pico 5 times
>i jizzed so hard too it
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Aaah no won't someone think of the pixels
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>>541590699
Moral faggots are insufferable. They love watching others suffer because of their cynical distrust of everyone. Most people are better than you give them crefit for, they're better than you for sure.
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>>541586993
pedos think lolicons are all pedos who haven't started gooning to cp yet
so basically lolicons are the only ones who think they aren't pedos
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>>541591745
> I still haven't fucked a little femboy dressing as a girl
skill issue. I can hurl a rock in any direction and hit a latino sissy. also the rock is my cock.
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>>541586160
they actually have to do this because so many normies probably already mass produced CP with local AI tools. they would have to arrest millions of people.
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>>541586160
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>>541586160
nigger paywalled
fake and gay
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>>541590430
>Ctrl + F "enabling"
>Phrase not found
Of course redditors would be that retarded, they're too hyper-focused on the shock value of the headline or spamming claims that all AI models use actual CSAM.

The real problem with allowing the fictional content to exist is its propensity for normalization in the public sphere, desensitizing people to seeing portrayals of young children engaged in obscene activities. Like I said earlier ITT, dissemination of said content is still illegal under other laws, all this does is allow localfags to gen their slop unaffected. However it doesn't insulate the content away from children who have access to the same device the content is present on, granted I don't think Uncle Jim the gaymer is going to let his niece or nephew anywhere near his goon cave but who knows...

The point is that the person viewing and creating such material is polluting their mind by filling it with thoughts on the subject matter, it would arguably desensitize them to children IRL, thinking "oh but if done out of love, then no problemo". Shit like this is why we have MAPs and lolifags that argue that age of consent is an entirely jewish machination, pushing fiction into real life. Progressivism is a disease but it was wrought by liberalization, people grant waivers for vices because they themselves have vices they want to be accepted publicly. Liberalism begets more liberalism, always.
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>>541592531
Dogshit argument built on assumtions and distrust. D- and I'm being generous.
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>>541592531
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>>541592705
Assumption regarding what, genners and lolicons leaning towards pedophila? If you don't approach people in general with a base level of caution (distrust), then you are setting yourself up for failure in life.
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>>541592531
By this argument video games cause murder
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>>541586160
Vaush won. Liberalism and democracy has won. Authoritarianism has been defeated. Fascism has been defeated
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>>541592956
Keep the life advice to youself, you're not smart enough to be giving it.
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>>541593031
not really, he's a communist that wants real child pornography to be legal
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>>541586160
>nooooo but muh thought crime!!
worry about your actual kids being raped, faggot
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>>541586160
Think of the pixels.

All virtue signaling faggot deserve a rope
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>>541592531
>normalization in the public sphere,
Furfag shit has existed for 40 years. Not too long ago, furfags would spam their weirdo shit all over the place. /b/ still has regular furfag porn. Furfaggotry was never normalized.

The same can be said for a lot of genres. There are threads on /gif/ for scat. This is legal. It gets posted regularly. And yet most people are not treating it like it's normal.
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Hot take: Lolicon and AI content is CSAM.
CSAM is material depicting child sexual abuse, fictional or not.
>it's fictional
And if it was in a movie it would be illegal, so fictional doesn't matter
>not a real child in lolicon or AI content though
Doesn't matter, the fact it is a depiction at all is what makes it illegal. The law is against the material that depicts it, not just the act. That's why images of murdered are legal, no law against their depiction despite the act being illegal. Not so with CSAM.
>but is it really abuse?
All sexual acts with a child are abuse.
Put all this together, and any material that depicts the sexual abuse of a child is (and should) be illegal.
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>>541592531
>Bullshit / Illogical

What actually happens is way less "real CP" happens. It is because all the resources are going to find real predators and not false accusations and cases and fiction.

>This normali-
No, infact in places it is banned it is normal to do things like:
- Marry your 12 year old daughter.
- Rape Children.
- See UK/Other middle eastern countries.
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>>541593005
They don't but desensitization and warping of viewpoints on murder are proven. Just look at /pol/, most of us aren't even phased by gore or snuff or what have you, memeing about high scores etc whenever there's an active shooter. This is a strawman at best.

>>541593039
I don't give advice, I made observations that you're welcome to ignore but for some reason could not. Hit a little too close to home?

>>541593244
>Furfaggotry was never normalized
It's just present all over social media and has conventions offline...because?
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>>541593292
Yes, so they are a fictional pedophile.

>Angry at Pictophilia and Pictophiles
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>>541593352
>They don't but desensitization and warping of viewpoints on murder are proven.
Now ban all antisemitism, because criticism of Jews could lead to another Holocaust.
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>>541586160
You will just be logged and actively tracked. I am glad. I hope they release the lists someday
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>>541586160
Yes, but it’s only legal for Jews to make and distribute it since it’s they culchua.
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>>541586501
It harms the individual gratifying themselves to it, "patterning" or "priming" and acts as a gateway path to global dehumanization and normalization of child abuse. The real point of local AI was always this which is why they gave the world image gen first followed by video while putting on a bread and circus style fake lawfare fight over open source models. This will be used to legalize sex with children and babies within the next 5 - 7 years. Mark my words you'll see the day come where people will be balls deep in random kids at playgrounds and parks. And future generations will grow up in a world where this is normal.
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>>541593393
Pedophile or not has nothing to do with it. The material is illegal.
Doesn't matter if you're a junky or not. If you have heroin you are breaking the law. Because it is illegal.
Fucking idiot
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>>541593470
This is only normal in places fictional content is censored and banned you actual retard.
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>>541593110
Let's face it. It's one step closer to what he wants to see, which is literal legalization of the real thing.
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>>541593503
Illegal in what country? Sorry, take off your flag and leave US barbarian.
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>>541593350
>way less "real CP" happens
For a period, I think this is absolutely true. However as it becomes less offensive after having been present in everyday life for an extended time, obviously it is then normalized and may proceed to the next level where it finds its way to the eyes of real children. The more you compromise, the more people ask for.

>>541593402
Kek, we should have a holocaust for once.
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>>541593587
>False and Gay

Infact, it's the opposite effect.

The more you ban it, the more actual child abuse, rape, and killing you have.

This pattern has been true for EVERY single country this has happened, the second you reduce freedom of expression real degeneracy blossoms.
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If you're so offended by drawings, you can always move to a muslim shithole like the uk that bans them. Your values are incompatible with the united states. Just leave.
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>>541593587
>Kek, we should have a holocaust for once.
Damn, sounds like a desensitization and warping of viewpoints regarding genocide, time for sheriff Chitwood to extradite you to Florida and lock your ass up.
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>>541593573
It will be in the US, using exactly the logic i did. It's a depiction, real or not.
Shit will be ripped down within the decade especially as AI becomes more capable of generating more realistic content
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>>541589454
why did you change the wording?
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>>541593685
>The more you ban it, the more actual child abuse, rape, and killing you have.
Increase the penalty then. Death penalty would make people think twice, would it not?

>>541593701
Observations of jews in daily life isn't the same as binge watching holohoax documentaries until I no longer care, that usually doesn't happen. Not remotely similar.
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>>541589911
people generating AI CP are real pedophiles, not fictional. they have evil desires and we shouldn't tolerate them
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>>541593762
>Your Logic=Actual Retardation

Please leave the US and go to UK if you want your children raped.
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>>541592240
billions... basically 100% of indians are pedos and definitely the chinese.
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>>541593838
>Observations of jews in daily life isn't the same as binge watching holohoax documentaries until I no longer care
Posting on /pol/ is equivalent to having seen 1,000 holocaust documentaries, as shown by your implication that it was a hoax.
Open wide, time for Chitwood to administer your medicine; a nice extradition and stay in prison.
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>>541586160

lol this just give AI companies no liability if people are using it to create CP.

When they say well where did the AI get the information to generate such content such as actual CP uploaded to their platforms or kids generating it themselves via webcam which social media companies collect 24/7 btw.

They won’t get in trouble like the average joe for protection.
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>>541593838
I agree!

We do need to have more death penalty, but for things that cause actual harm and do not go against the constitution and barbaric acts of censorship.
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>>541593838
my claim is that the loss of privacy and abuse of government power in the name of pursuing such hobgoblins as child abuse and terrorism has been worse than the hobgoblins
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Anyone who has a problem with this is a retard who wants the government to have a right to imprison people over thought crimes, and dish out sentences that are based on an emotional response the thought crime generates.
You better be against simulated depictions of murder too if you're against any other fictional category.
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PIXELS?
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>>541594081
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PEDOPHILES?
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>>541594189
reminder that psychologically nearly every man is a "pedophile" by american standards (aroused by adolescent girls)

the hypocrisy is immense
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>>541593920
You literally can't form a meaningful response, because you have no reading comprehension or relfective capacity whatsoever. You're an actual retard: literally autistic not understanding words, behaviors, or meaningful responses.
I talked about the meaning of CSAM. You thought i was talking about the meaning of "pedophile." Literally didn't understand.
You asked what country CSAM is illegal in (the actual topic you missed) and i said artificial will count as CSAM in the future.
You now are just babbling a projection about child rape thinking that my intensifying of the definition and punishment of CSAM somehow means i want my child raped or something.
You're completely fucking incoherent. Take your meds
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>>541594189
>Fictional Pedophiles.

You people care more about pixel pedophilia more than real grooming gangs and children.
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>>541593989
The info in that fucking image. Jesus Christ, the establishment is poisoned by hyper reality narratives.
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>>541593960
>seeing inconsistencies in stories is bad
Not an argument.

>>541593989
I'm saying every person would offend IRL, I'm just saying they'll objectively start caring less that offenses happen IRL unless it maybe immediately affects them, like a rape or molestation in the family or by a neighbor.

>>541594030
Perhaps but that's why dissemination is illegal outright, privacy is being respected here in this case.

I'm hungry as fuck right now so I'm gonna go make food.
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>>541586160
prove it
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>>541586160
America is pretty awesome sometimes. Thank you, Judge P. DuBehr
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>>541586160
Retard. The judge (if he's doing his job right) just applies the law. He's simultaneously advocating that new stronger laws be passed to explicitly ban AI CP.
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>>541594264
>y CSAM is illegal in (the actual topic you missed) and i said artificial will count as CSAM in the future.
>You now are just babbling a projection about child rape thinking that my intensifying of the definition and punishment of CSAM somehow means i want my child raped or something.
>You're completely fucking incoherent. Take your meds

"The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects artistic expression as a fundamental form of free speech."

You will have to amend the first to do this, so a Civil War basically is what you want.
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>>541594330
>Not an argument.
The argument is that you're normalizing antisemitism and excusing genocide.
By your own logic, Chitwood should extradite you to Florida and throw you in prison.
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>>541593941
im talking about within the US where the law applies, but yes. even within the US an inordinate amount of the individuals engaged in this are going to be indian.
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>>541586993
>actual pedophiles

99% of straight men are attracted to women and girls of all ages, ESPECIALLY teenage girls. The claim that this is not the case is the most powerful cultural denial of modern society.
The remaining 1% have no attraction to adult women and we call those "pedophiles" but it would be more accurate to refer to them as adultophobes or something.
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>>541594330
Illogical, and no evidence of that exists. Seeing murder and blood on TV doesn't normalize seeing it in real life, if you did you would freak the fuck out.
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>>541594368
>new stronger laws be passed to explicitly ban AI CP.
Can't, first amendment will also apply to those. The response to losing a legal argument as a result from a constitutional amendment is not to pass more laws that also violate the constitutional amendment. It's to amend the constitution to match your new values.
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>>541586160
W American lolicons
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erm who cares its AI generated and zero victims
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>>541586160
>you can own information goy you just cant share it
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>>541594189
Consider this. Do you think people who play Mortal Kombat for the fatalities should be locked up for mass murder? If not, then the debate is settled. Stop treating fiction as real, that's the real of victimless crimes.
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>>541594384
>protects artistic expression as a fundamental form of free speech."
And if that "art" was a film of a child being sexually abused it would be illegal. Already responded to this in the "fictional doesn't matter" portion of my original post.
And soon it will be in other mediums.
Basic shit if you have a brain. Enjoy your CP while you can
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>>541594533
>real
realm.
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>>541594546
That is exactly why it needs protected, you don't need a constitution for art that people find inoffensive.
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>>541592531
Good old thought crime/slippery slope argument. These threads wouldn't be complete without one of these stinkers. No matter how many years go by it's always the same pearl clutching bullshit. I bet your kid is assface-ugly anyway lol
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>>541586160
>Stares in Pretty Baby and Traci Lords films

It’s always been legal if the Jews can profit from it.
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This is definitely what the founders had in mind when they called for free speech. The definitely wouldn't have hung the judge for being a deviant.
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>>541594546
Also your logic as I stated before isn't true, you've provided no examples just shit up lies, in every statistic it is the exact opposite of what you said.

In Japan for example where lolicon is legal, child rapes are 65000% less likely to happen than say, UK.

- Japan had about 2100 Rapes, 4% are children.
- UK had 250k, 40% are children.

Small example, in every statistic you are wrong, in every variable you are wrong, in every aspect you are wrong.

If you want to rape children freely, go to UK and other barbaric middle eastern countries that push for real ID and censorship.
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>>541593352
>They don't but desensitization and warping of viewpoints on murder are proven.
there are more videogames than ever but less murder than ever

people can distinguish fiction and reality, get over it
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>>541594592
Offensive isn't the topic. Again. Illegal. The debate is whether it is CSAM or not. The legality is not up for debate.
Jesus christ you actually are an angry fucking retard aren't you? A car drives by and you start screaming huh?
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>>541594546
>And if that "art" was a film of a child being sexually abused it would be illegal.
Not at all, otherwise movies like Taxi Driver would be illegal.
Sorry m8, but this ain't gonna work, you'll have to find a different angle here because your current cope is very ineffectual.
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>>541594468
Has little to do with the 1A and everything to do with specific interpretations of earlier SC rulings stating that obscenity held privately in the home is protected. It's going to be appealed to the SC again and the law will likely be reinterpreted. Lower appeals judges are beholden to precedent from the SC.
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>>541594725
>Also your logic as I stated before isn't true, you've provided no examples just shit up lies, in every statistic it is the exact opposite of what you said.
Holy shit you are totally lost. None of my posts were about the harm or not of lolicon etc. You're 100% responding to your imagination right now
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>>541594725
i don't think this is a great argument because most rapes and sexual assaults do not get reported or have different criminal standards, comparing them between countries is not a reliable measure

you also just made up that 250K figure about the UK, we are quite a safe country
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The real reason my the feds called this is because they found out the shear amount of incels making ai lewds of anime characters that are all between 14 and 16 are so great that we don't have enough prisons for them ans millions, yes MILLIONS of men would no longer be working, buying shit and paying taxes over something that isn't hurting anyone.
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>>541586160
It's so fucked up anyone would create that. I don't watch faggot entrapment stuff on YouTube, but they should cut the heads off of ai child porn creators
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>>541588186
Probs anime and cartoon looking content, anything that looks like you used a child to make porn of it is a no go
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>>541594768
>movies like Taxi Driver would be illegal.
Didn't have depictions of csam
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>>541594729
I am saying if they did rule it (in the fictional future you made up), it violates the 1st Amendment.

>>541594768
These people don't understand, the 1st Amendment was made so that it includes art that is *gasp* offensive, or personally offensive to others because people got hanged for that shit before they left. Being hanged because you disagreed with the King, or made a picture of him sucking off a peasant.

If it isn't offensive, it NEEDS no such protections.
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>>541594864
It literally featured a 12 year old hooker played by a 12 year old actress, what the hell are you talking about?
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>>541594819

Bigger reason is that all of the AI companies would be held accountable, and the entire American economy would die overnight as the companies have to find a way to stop AI from generating any CP related content or be shut down.
They had to make the common sense ruling about this to get the businesses off the hook.
And yes your point is true too, there would be no workforce left if they threw people into prison for looking at teenagers.
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Imagine thinking looking at pictures should be illegal KEKAROO
can't imagine being this bvckbroken by the state
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>>541593352
>They don't but desensitization and warping of viewpoints on murder are proven.
The only time this seems to be the case is with school shooters or some other mass murderer. But such people are already on a downward spiral and videogames is mainly just an outlet for their thoughts rather than the cause.
>Just look at /pol/, most of us aren't even phased by gore or snuff or what have you
Because this board is USED to seeing gore constantly. This wasn't the norm of the rest of the internet until some normies began to realize that seeing gore isn't some dark web exclusive thing.
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>>541594814
"Safe", and no it wasn't made up that was that years rape statistics in total, and 40% of it was children (under 16).
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>>541594533
do you jerk off to pictures of men?
do you jerk off to scat and gore?
why or why not?
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>>541594953
Amerigoyim are raped goycattle
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>>541594973
no it wasn't, restore britain literally just made that 250K figure up to get people angry over browns
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>>541594938
You must not know what a depiction of sex is
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>>541590699
This would make sense if reality mirrored let’s say doujin logic. Which it most certainly does not. It cannot be found in the 3d. Yet they assume there are irl mesugaki loli bitches milking oji-sans out there for money? Doesn’t that say something about your shitty society and less about my degen taste in fake imaginary cartoon porn? I’d say it’s more moral than spawn camping some instagram girl you’ve been stalking since she turned 13 like literally every single jewish porn studio. Let’s not talk about how anime manga and now doujinshi cutting into movies comics and now porn. Those who own the porn industry have to do something so they don’t lose market share.
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>>541595025
You said CSAM, not sex.
Unless you're going to argue that a child prostitute isn't a victim of sexual assault and trafficking.
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>>541586434
this
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>>541595021
>hey don't but desensitization and warping of viewpoints on murder are proven.
... That wasn't what I was talking about. It was 250k TOTAL RAPES (NOT CHILDREN, 40% OF THAT was the average in europe around uk, so its ) that year, not that 250k statistic. You actual retard, this is why we dumped your tea in the ocean.

It's actually around 98000.
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>>541595070
CSAM is material that depicts the sexual abuse of children. Sexual abuse involves sexual acts. There were no such acts depicted in the movie. It is fucking unreal that I have to spoon feed this shit to you retards holy fuck. Stop posting
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>>541595076
Australia is America's greatest ally.

Fought together in.
-Boxer Rebellion > 1900-1901
-WW1 > 1914-1918
-Russian Civil War > 1918-1919
-WW2 > 1939-1945
-Korean war > 1950-1953
-Vietnam war >1965-1973
-Gulf war > 1990-1991
-War in Afghanistan > 2001-2014
-Iraq War > 2003-2009
-Ongoing war on terror > 2014-

US financial aid.
-Australia receives the least US foreign aid of any country in the world.

Moon Landing.
-Australia assisted the NASA Apollo 11 mission to land a man on the moon. The Aussie built Parkes Radio Telescope broadcast the television images.

Culture.
English speaking, majority white Christian nation. Way of life very similar to America, heavily influenced by American culture.

Military Bases.
-Australia hosts several American military facilities and weather stations.
-Including the massive Pine Gap earth station which employs approx. 1000 US and Australian personnel.
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>>541595161
>CSAM is material that depicts the sexual abuse of children.
Yes, and depicting a child prostitute is depicting the sexual abuse of a child.
>Sexual abuse involves sexual acts.
Yes, and sexual acts include more than just showing actual sex or blowjobs.
If you're going to argue that an anime showing a loli pantyshot is CSAM, then a movie showing a little girl as a hooker dressed like a slut is CSAM, based on your own logic.
This is all moot after all, because you're not really consistent, you're just retarded, which is why, as I stated before, you're completely ineffectual.
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>>541595239
Remove feminism then it would be perfect.
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>>541595246
Depict means showing. Were there any sexual acts shown on screen? Not implied, shown on screen? Text you're going to have me explain the definition of sex to you.
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>>541586160
Well that ruling is shocking to me
http://archive.today/2026.08.27-020142/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/08/26/federal-judge-warns-law-is-being-left-behind-by-ai-sex-abuse-images/
>The First Amendment protects an individual’s right to privately possess images or videos of child sexual abuse created using artificial intelligence — if the material does not depict a real person and remains in the home, a federal appeals court judge ruled Tuesday. The decision came in a case that tested the scope of laws implemented before advances in AI made it easy to create realistic-looking fake images of children.
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>>541586160
Legalize brothels, hang pedos and porn producers.
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>>541586160
>just like in the days of Noah
The end is coming friends. Better get your hearts right
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>>541586303
It is not. In a near future where it is completely impossible to tell a difference between a real photo and AI generated photo, one can always argue that their photos are AI generated.

It is now up to law enforcement to track down imaginary kids being raped etc. You will have real and AI mixed up all over the dark web and no one can tell the difference. Then you have models trained with kids, that did not ask to be in there. You will have models trained with real CP too.
It is not feasible or sensible system.
If it is fully allowed. Then you will soon have "AI CP" porn sites in clear web, just like you have loli hentai easily available.

A reasonable system is like what we have in Finland: If it looks real, it is treated as real. End of discussion, you go to jail. If it does not look real (anime hentai bullshit), you will just get shamed.
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>>541595161
They are trying to manufacture consent by using bots and sock puppets to parrot propaganda that riled up the goyim into fighting themselves. Always has been. How can cartoons be csam if it’s fictional and hurts no child. Yet our government officials have been protected from being shown as pdfs in Epstein files. Which is only 1 island in a vast network. Yeah it’s only think about the children when it pertains to how it can remove as many rights from the goyim.
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>>541586160
Art should be legal no matter what. You can't really claim to have freedom of speech if you censor art... and yes even AI art counts now. This site went to shit when it became popular and all the moralfags poured in. Neck yourselves.
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>>541595336
Women will never agree to legalized brothels or prostitution because the state can undercut them
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>>541595318
>Depict means showing. Were there any sexual acts shown on screen?
A little girl dressed like a slutty hooker talking about sucking dick and selling her pussy is sexual, yes.
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>>541586160
Based
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>>541595336
Hey brother that’s not very Muslim friendly of you inshallah.
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>>541594350
>Judge P. DuBehr
ahahahahahaha
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>>541595385
>How can cartoons be csam if it’s fictional and hurts no child
I already answered this question read the thread. Fictional or not doesn't matter as in the example of a movie
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>>541587125
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>>541595388
Czech’d, I remember a time.
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>>541586160
Virtually generated kids are not kids at all, there's no actual harm in that case. This is reasonable.
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>>541594629
>Hillary Clinton entered the chat.
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>>541595412
You can't eliminate prostitution, but your can create businesses that pay taxes, with rules (like security and hygiene). Honestly, i am against prostitution in any form, but life is not a fairytale, you often have to find the lesser of known evils, until something better is invented.
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>>541595557
>they're just Minor Attracted Persons, dude
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>>541595482
Total muslim, kike and masonic death. Total. To the last one. Forever.
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>>541595515
This is jewish tactics, they did not answer the question. A filthy sophist that we were warned of. You shall know them by their fruits which are further surveillance and restriction of rights. Synagogue of Satan. 2.9 3.9 rev.
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wtf based
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>>541595380
yes it is, people using real cp to train ai models will be prosecuted for cp posession
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>>541586160
they want to send some tidal wave at euros but not at africa or mutts. very good you useless shit donkeys. fuck this planet.
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>>541586160
>you vill gen ze childporn
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>>541595643
Mhhmm that Masonic one at the end was tasty. They make up the majority of the golem law enforcement. If they make it to retirement chances are they are the most filthy corrupt you could ever imagine..I can name examples but the list is too damn long.
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>>541595662
Literal babble. I answered the actual question the rest of your post was exactly like this one absolutely nothing but your own imagination
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>>541595380

Why would there be any real content if AI is completely indistinguishable from the real thing?
It would be retarded to go through any risk and expense to manufacture something that can be made with a push of a button.
And let's not pretend a moral outrage about people's pictures being used without permission, when those people have been posting their lives online for years for attention and have had zero problems with it.
People haven't had any problems with telemetry either, they didn't give a shit. But now it's suddenly an issue?
Models don't need real CP to pull it off either, because AI is smart enough to understand what the human body looks like from billions of reference pictures.

Then there's the subject of murder which can't be ignored. If imaginary CP is illegal, then imaginary murder absolutely needs to be treated the same way.
If it isn't, then it's just a confirmation the whole moral panic exists for brownie points, nothing else.
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Why is this board so pro child porn and anti age of consent? I thought you guys said leftist trannies were the real pedophiles?
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>>541595768
except its not child porn retard
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>>541595385
The AI are trained. Trained on what ? Actual material.
Now there are 2 options :

1) the AI are already out of control and scan everything they want, and lie to their owners.
2) the AI are trained by the owners, secretly.

Both are equally terrifying
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>>541595768
>Fiction
>I thought you guys said leftist trannies were the real pedophiles?

>Fake Pedophilia is harmful!
No harm is done, no sexual assault occurred. Can you not comprehend this?
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>>541586160
Weimar in full swing
God help us
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>>541595874
>Fake Pedophilia
They're just Minor Attracted Persons, dude!
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>>541595822
>>541595874
>ai images trained on real illicit images of children
>But the children generated are fake!
Why are you defending the right to view “fake” csam?
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>>541586160
Weird and gross. Imagine THAT's the thing you're famous for.
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>>541586160
Imagine not being able to tell the difference in a flesh and blood human and a fucking drawing lmaoooooooooooo
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>>541595679
This is just fucking retarded.
No one is training AI on data sets of child porn. You literally would have to tap into the darkweb with the fucking servers, kek. None of the nodes have access to that.
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>>541595768
Depictions of children having sex is not child porn apparently. Just like depictions of adults having sex isn't porn. Apparently
The people that debate this are merely contrarians at best.
It's like listening to an Indian arguing that they're white
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>>541586160
What part of free speech extremism did you not understand. You can’t cry about flock while also policing what someone does on their computer if it isn’t harming anyone else
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I wouldnt except less from a the nation ran by a convicted pedophile who took office after a guy his own children call "pedo peter".
you guys
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>>541595733
People, especially youngfags, tend to ignore the masonic threat, while these golems are the main infrastructure if the globalist menace. Not that muslims are not dangerous, they are. And kikes are still the majority of the decision makers. But none of that would Work without the masonic mafia. As such, they are not only traitors, but the biggest threat.
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>>541595758
This makes it so that they no longer have to look online at all and focus on only real cases of it, because it just wouldn't happen for real.

>>541595923
And generating realistic images of a goblin and dragons was based off real dragons!
>Implying accusations are proof.
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Now that I think about it that's one of the more open and shut rebuttals for people that try to argue otherwise. If hentai is porn because it depicts adults having sex, then lolicon is porn because it depicts children having sex.
Only a contrarian or actual retard would debate the shit
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>>541596006
>free speech extremism
pedophiles don't have rights
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>>541595972
Lord of the Rings had realistic depictions of Orcs, that means they are real!
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What was their ruling on the 107 million illegal aliens that have invaded the country?
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>>541586160
Raises the question of training data and models though. In a vacuum it seems a fairly reasonable middle ground stance. Not really people and not distributing does seem pretty harmless, but then you think about how the technology works. How are the generating it if not being engaged in and supporting those networks?
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>>541593960
Positively fucking bodied
>>541594330
just kneel retard
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>>541596112
So you support flock and Palantir, got it
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>>541596112
>2▶
>>>541596006
>>free speech extremism
>pedophiles don't have rights


Foid: "Dating any woman younger then me is pedophilic!"

"He's a pedo! He dated a 22 year old and he's 26! They could of been 14 when he was 18!"
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>>541596104
No one ever said it wasn't porn, the question was always whether it is explicitly, legally, *child porn* in the criminally punishable penal law sense.
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>>541595768
It's legitimately not about the child porn. Making AI generated child porn illegal to possess would create an absurdly easy way for any police officer or federal agent to arrest and imprison literally anyone he wants to, as long as he can simultaneously acquire and access one of the target's computer devices. AI-generated child porn does not require actual victims to create, so the officer or agent would find it very easy to create the images and the images would be quite effective at not only providing a pretense for arresting the target, but also for ensuring that nobody defends him. Who would want to throw their hat in the ring to defend an alleged pedophile?
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>>541595161
your so fucking retarded I genuinely wish to beat you
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The arguments from the pedoniggers are pretty bad in this thread. Weird how theres so many people defending pedophilia and Noncery on a primarily right wing website.
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>>541596113
Again you seem to be missing the point. The depiction is what matters and is legal/illegal not the reality or not.
Lolicon is porn just as hentai is porn. It's porn because it depicts the sexual acts of adults. Lolicon depicts the sexual abuse of children. Definition of CSAM
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>>541596295
My loli porn is japanese not jewish

thanks for playing the game you lost tranny
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>>541596230
You point is 100% on point. But the AI generating the stuff was trained on actual material.

So the system abuse kids, create tools to replicate the images of the abuse, then can use it to frame you.

Back to point zero: total kike, masonic and elites death. You can't solve the problem without eliminating the sources.
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>>541596333
TRIPLE TRVKELEAR STRIKE
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>>541595951
tiktok, Snapchat, Instagram and X all have way more cp than any old Russian rabbit hole. PRISM captures ALL
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>>541596230
They can already do that, bad argument. You can literally deep-fake any crime, next?

>>541596333
It is no longer CSAM when there is no C involved, otherwise murdering someone in a game would be murder for real.
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>>541596230
this is simply a trvth nvke.
Raw, real, and painful.
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>>541596212
Finally a good response. That's the crux, whether the definition is contingent on involving a real child or merely being a depiction at all.
I think material depicting the sexual abuse of children is CSAM, real or not. It's illegal not because the act is illegal, it is illegal because possession of the depiction is illegal
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>>541586303
The judge who made the ruling is a German immigrant btw
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>>541586160
semitics
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>>541596457
>otherwise murdering someone in a game would be murder for real.
No, it is the Depiction Of murdering someone.
Which is not illegal.
The depiction of child sexual abuse is.
The legality or reality of the act itself is irellevant.
CSAM refers to images and videos depicting child sexual abuse.
The possession of something meeting that definition is illegal
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>>541596402
It isn’t even loli, some states will classify any depiction of any underage fictional character as child porn it’s fucking absurd
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>>541596476
your honor, it is not a depiction of child sexual abuse this is clearly a grown woman with a pituitary issue. what now bitch?
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>>541586160
I'm okay with that. if no real person was exploited then it's not cp or anything else. how is it any different than displaying naked angel kids in art and museum sculptures? if anything that's literally CP
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>>541596476
I can tell you dont have children.
Ill tldr:

What ISNT a pedophile, who is masturbating at home, doing?
What IS a pedophile, who is in public, doing?

Which one can be watched better with current technology?
These are very simply answers.
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>>541596566
Possession is, not depiction.

Read the law, retard.

Possession implies real, as in a REAL image of a child being harmed, not a depiction.

Otherwise depictions of children being killed in games would be banned, which they are and have been trying to do for ages because of censorship.
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>>541596476
>I think material depicting the sexual abuse of children is CSAM, real or not. It's illegal not because the act is illegal, it is illegal because possession of the depiction is illegal
Counterargument - depictions of crimes are not crimes, and possessions of depictions of crimes are not crimes. Possessions of depictions of crimes can be evidence, and can be used to support a case against an individual for actions, but they should not be crimes in and of themselves.
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>muslim shitskins seething that I can draw images of muhammad raping aisha and they can't do shit about it
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>>541596575
No there still arent any states that will v& you for loli.
What your seeing is the fearful reaction to that potential future though.
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>>541596703
Texas made drawings illegal.
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>>541596653
IS...
IS........
IS THAT A LITTLE GIRL!?!??!?!?!?
PRIIIISOOOOOOOON YOU NEED TO BE JAILED YOU ARE A PEDOPHIIIIILLLLEEEEEE
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>>541596776
Against the constitution and should be overturned.
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>>541596779
check out this illegal line
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>>541596230
> Making AI generated child porn illegal to possess would create an absurdly easy way for any police officer or federal agent to arrest and imprison literally anyone he wants to, as long as he can simultaneously acquire and access one of the target's computer devices. AI-generated child porn does not require actual victims to create, so the officer or agent would find it very easy to create the images and the images would be quite effective at not only providing a pretense for arresting the target, but also for ensuring that nobody defends him. Who would want to throw their hat in the ring to defend an alleged pedophile?

The government already has a database with every known image and video of this stuff. They would not need to use AI or to create anything new to frame somebody for this crime if they wanted to do that.
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PEDOPHILES WILL BURN AND SCREAM IN UNIMAGINABLE PAIN AND AGONY IN HELL
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>>541596776
I live in Texas.

They have not, they did however make it easier for the state to define "AI CSAM" which basically meant they are going to catch anyone making "realistic" images.
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>>541596650
>depictions of children being killed in games would be banned
It is not, but I guarantee depictions of sex with children are. Guaranteed. And it is the possession of the depiction that is illegal. What is real in order to constitute possession is merely the data. The data on one's device constitutes possession, and the depiction contained in that data constitutes imagery of the sexual abuse of a child. Real or not is irrelevant.
You should be understood that this is not what I think is the case now the obviously. I am saying what I think the case will be argued upon in the future as AI gets more and more realistic and available
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>>541596828
>hild porn does not require actual victims to create, so the officer or agent would find it very easy to create the images and the images would be quite effective at not only providing a pretense for arresting the target, but also for ensuring that nobody defends him. Who would want to throw their hat in the ring to defend an alleged pedophile?
>The government already has a database with every known image and video of this stuff. They would not need to use AI or to create anything new to frame somebody for this crime if they wanted to do that.
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> Anonymous (ID: Fq+wdWza) 08/28/26(Fri)18:42:17No.541596835▶
>PEDOPHILES WILL BURN AND SCREAM IN UNIMAGINABLE PAIN AND AGONY IN HELL
Pretty much, which is also why it's "Possession" and not "Depiction", as other poster said, Depiction is simply evidence of possession and doing the crime.
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>>541586160
>AI has to be trained on real images
>AI can accurately create child porn

Why is nobody asking how this is possible?
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>>541596804
You sick bastard, what age is this line?
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>>541596835
I agree.

Lolicons however, bathe in the Glory of Gods Eternal Light, forever loved by The Son.
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>>541586160
>>541589155
This is not a supreme court ruling and the opinion can easily be vacated.
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Hahaha holy fuck, the state of american discourse.

In Australia its illegal to posess images that look like a child. Posession is the crime. The AI is distributing it, and they posess many images.
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>>541596975
shalom rabbi
i know, i know, you hate elon
whatever
I dont. Im sorry! I just wont!
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>>541595461
This graph is fake. Actual study:
https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1016/S0005-7894(05)80039-5
https://gwern.net/doc/psychiatry/1995-hall.pdf
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>>541586434
/thread
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>>541596871
Here is a guide for you:

Fiction=Legal & Fine (In the US)
Real=Illegal & Bad

The1st Amendment protects art and artistic freedom even if you happen to disagree with it.
>>541596975
>AI art can create realistic dragons!

Why is nobody asking how this is possible?
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>>541597058
Bragging about your police state that lacks freedom of speech isn't the flex you think it is, Bruce.
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>>541597050
The supreme court already ruled years ago that drawings are protected free expression.
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>>541596779
>shartyfag is a pedophile
Lolicons aren’t pedos btw but you are, considering your site is filled to the brim with actual real csam. Shartyniggers seethe about loli then jack it to children. Sad existence being a Sharteen.
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>>541597156
Its called sarcasm you fucking sperg-burger.
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>>541586160
>AI needs to be trained on real images to recreate realistic pictures and video
>AI can make super realistic child porn

Why is nobody asking how this is possible?
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>>541596975
Not an AI expert so maybe I’m totally talking out of my ass here, but I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to train AI on regular nonperverted pictures and videos of kids (you could use medical and nudist stuff) and pictures videos of regular adult porn and then just ask the AI to combine the two things.
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>>541597204
you are defending ai made realistic depictions of children with your shit sarcasm, shartfaggot. Stop using Lolicon as a shield to you being a pedonigger
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>>541597228
that is exactly how it works.

And why banning it is basically impossible.
What if you simply, made an AI computer offline?
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>>541597267
I accept your spergout as a concession because youre outright just not reading lmao
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>>541597228
There are no real blue firetrucks and yet AI is somehow capable of generating images of blue firetrucks. Curious.
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>>541591973
based
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>>541597131
Literally a pedophile nation. America is full of people who fuck and kill babies then hide behind government process.
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>>541597485
Do you have a limit to internet time in your vaccine concentration camp?
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>>541597485
Kevin Rudd
Clive Palmer
Katherine Keating
Andrew Forrest

Shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down, Aussietrash.
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the courts just ruled its not pedophilia tho
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>>541597543
He's a jeet invader, he wasn't even in Australia when that was going down.
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>>541586726
you realize the judge in his opinion specifically cited that congress must act to make this illegal right?
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>>541597485
>Mr. Cruel
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>>541597966
the only feasible way to enforce this is by making everyone computer online only so (((They))) can scan your PC 24/7

I think you can understand how this is illegal.
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>>541597267
Moralfags are literally the worst niggers on earth.
I would hang out all day with a nigger over a fucking moralfag. Shit I would have a beer with a JEET over a moralfag.
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>>541598117
nigga you are retarded. all congress has to do is pass a law making these images illegal and then when you get caught with yours, your pedo ass is going to jail to take nigger penis in your anus
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>>541597642
Don't you niggers get it?
Something can be pedophilic and be legal.
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>>541598214
Overturned for being a blatant first amendment violation.
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>>541598214
Listen I know you want to mr antipedo-toughguy, but in order for
>then when you get caught with yours
To work, requires a warrant, or illegal surveillance, such as flock.

Thanks for playing, you lost tranny.
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>>541598249
Technically this can still go to the supreme court.
But loli is not AI. This is just a sign of how the law would rule on it. Lolicon has not yet ever gone to a higher court in the united states. Lower courts have put people in jail over it, but, I believe it has only been used to trump up charges on people with REAL SEAPEE
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>>541598298
Yes, there trvly has NEVER been an arrest or charge for just lolicon.
These pedos always had something else.
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>>541598350
I think there is one lowercourt case. I'm not sure if he had cp or not but I know he's doing time over it. He had imported manga from japan I believe.

Even if AI Was baned at the supreme court level trhough like I said a whole new process, technically, could happen for loli. Though, courts do look to other courts for precedence. Me personally, I have a hard time believing the current court would let this through. But then again maybe not......the lib shits and ccuckservatives could go either way on this, desu.
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>>541586160
overwhelming pedophile victory



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