https://x.com/cmarchibald/status/2093109776313876939
It's literally just pixels
who is the judge?
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>>541596793Yeah but those pixels give roasties and their male feminist simps the ick. Finally a based judge stood up to the gynocracy.
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>>541596768The seethe would be funnier if that was a real hag, but alas, that's a man
>>541596877>>541596907Seems like he won in the end. I just wish he was alive to see it.
>>541596907hell of a timing
>>541596907>kikes have to spam retarded AI pics because Trump did nothing wrongLMAO YOU LOST TRANNY
I understand the rational argument to ban it of real people. (fueling demand)With ai slop you infer motive or obviously legislate against perversion, possible dangerous.Why would violence slop not be banned then as well? Emotionally I understand it.Rationally and in principle I can see why they would rule that way.I think women should be banned from getting tattoos as well but I do not run the morality police.
>>541596768You just know that republicans will cry about "muh democrats trying to steal our freedom of speech" and block all attempts to fix this.
You cannot make laws that prohibit ai. It’s the law.
AI is heavily monitored, heavily censored, it's illegal if you share it and the hardware to just le do it at home costs as much as a new car.Literally fucking nothing.
>>541597098>>541597137In Russia, simple possession of actual CP is legal so long as you don’t produce/distribute. It’s only in the west that we think someone should be put decades behind bars for pictures.
well this is hard to believe but ultimately a misanthrope (humanity hater) like me doesn't give a shit either way.
Some of you have never been kicked out on thanksgiving because you had grok so an epic vulgar roast on your mom, and it shows.
>>541597167Generating images is not expensive. I’ve seen plenty on /b/ and even one full length video of an anime loli brought to life in photorealistic 4k.
>>541597167>hardware to just le do it at home costs as much as a new car.Way to out yourself as a brokie driving around in a shitwagon on it's last legs
>>541596768Is this better or worse than letting pedophiles have sex dolls of children? If its anime kids no one gives a fuck, but realistic images pushes a line because they could easily use a pic of someone's kid for a reference.
>>541597167new mac has offline ai.
Trump is President. What else were you expecting?
>>541597213That's to give glowniggers the ability to plant evidence on your devices that will immediately make you a social pariah and cause all your friends and family to abandon your defense.
>>541597213>he thinks it's the pictures that are the problempictures are a record of a moment in time, dummy.
>>541597369Sure, but they can’t share it. It’s an impossible thing to regulate in the first place and why there was so much panic about open source models. They know once the tech is in the hands of users then there’s little way of controlling what they do with it without 1984 surveillance.
Lmao this is what miggers mean when they say they’re winning
>>541597229>hates humanity>stays alive to deal with humansx to doubt.
>>541597495I just wanted to watch anime
>>541597498>It’s an impossible thing to regulateoh, anon...you think flock is only cameras?
>>541597518You lost, tranny
>>541597544but anime is a japanese psy-op as payback for the bombs, anon.
>>541596768unironically remove the bill of rights
>>541597578They definitely backdoored everything but they only pull that shit out for someone they really want to get rid of. They don’t want their secrets to be wasted on autistic loners.
>>541596768Foids:>Cartoon kiddie porn is bad!>Murdering living kiddies good!Still waiting for the collapse...
this is not cool at all...stop using kids to get off you weirdo
>>541597657No, I don’t think I will.
>>541596793Yeah, but did those pixels consent to be arranged the way they were or did you use your power and privilege to arrange them in that sequence?
>>541597592Uhh kiddy porn is legal now, the trannys won honeybun
>>541597774But trannies hate AI
>>541596882Watch foids go nuts clutching their pearls and screaming "think of the children" about this, while they're simultaneously protesting for the acquittal of a literal triple baby-killer. Not to mention the daily pro-abortion protests lmao
Doesn’t all AI technically use real people?
>>541597453also gives them cause to search computers for bootlegged material or drug deal communication without a warrant
I mean the jury's still out on whether children and adolescents enjoy or can consent to sexual play honestly.Just because they don't appreciate or understand the serious risk of diabetes and CV disease a cookie habit can cause, they consent to eating cookies.The abuse is a matter of harm.No harm, no abuse.Simple as
>>541597955No, it’s a common misconception that AI just copy and pastes what’s in its training. The whole point is the learn patterns so they can generalize which is why you can make images of things that don’t exist and were never in its training.
>>541597453It also makes it easier for Mossad to blackmail you once they plant it on your device. And it's why they're trying to make all that shit illegal in Japan.
retards, listen up. The SCOTUS ruled that Child Porn is illegal because it requires a crime be committed to make it. And you can't profit from a crime, so they can't sell it, you can't buy it or own it. Legit that it's illegit. AI porn, on the other hand, doesn't require anyone be harmed, and the argument it is trained on CP is, if true, makes the model so trained illegal. However, if the Model wasn't trained on CP but legal porn, as is quite possible because AI makes dragons but there aren't any real fire breathing dragons to train it on, then it's legal according to the courts. >>541597651really, the honest courts and judges are not long for this world. The Democrats are going to use the Trump destruction of the Republicans to fill the SCOTUS with their white hating left wing retards like that nigger who said if she stole something in Japan, she's Japaneses.
>>541596768ToT>>541597839>>541597958>>541597955>>541597839ToT uoooooh~~ flat is justice!https://youtu.be/2cHGQZ7_HYEWhy isn't 2D more allowed tho?https://youtu.be/M5nBY4DLtew
>>541598220Name of russian model?
>>541596768Women can literally murder anyone and get away with it. But we’re supposed to care about some gooners watching cartoon or whatever porn.
>>541596768>Loli is now a constitutionally protected art form
>>541596768Posted in another thread on the topic but repeating it here. I was sexually abused as a kid. I hate loli, and especially hate real CP.From from a first amendment perspective I fully support this. No one was harmed. It's a drawing, just potentially a realistic one. Stripping rights is a slippery slope. If no one is hurt, then there is no cause to ban, even if I personally find the content to be reprehensible.And maybe it will protect real kids, because there won't be as much a market to produce real CP and abuse, photograph, and record real children anymore.
>>541596768LOLSo many will need to be killed
Moralfags lost
>>541598263Hold a sec I gonna look up :3
>>541596768If you look at this shit you should be killed. I dont care what you think
>>541598387>I was sexually abused as a kid.What happened?>If no one is hurt, then there is no cause to banTotally agree. No harm = no abuse
>>541596768Normies be like>but AI CP will normalise child sexual abuse!!Meanwhile in the real world>Porn usage skyrockets>Sex and procreation plummets>Turns the entire Japanese male population into Herbivore menAs sad as it sounds, it might actually stop Pedos from diddling kids since AI CP will raise the bar so high, they won't be attracted to real kids anymore.
>>541597167Any halfwit can make an offline AI image generator >>541596768Also "the devil is in the details" and this is what happens when a country is ruled by the devilI literally began believing in god again because of the amount of mastermind evil shit I see mainly from American society, type of shit that is so cartoonishly evil you'd say it's make belief but no, it literally feels biblical or spiritualFucking Jewish satanic lawyers always argue by elevatating semantics and the literal meaning of words over broader principles or “spirit of the law” In America constitutional and statutory interpretation is constrained by text, precedent, and institutional rolefucking retarded cunt
>>541596768Women find fake pixels more upsetting than strangling kids to death
>>541596768Seems not all judges suck ass.ai does not create real people, dumbass. it's literally just pixels on a monitor.
>>541597955draw a tank in paint.one that that flies and can transform and is red. how would you do this when no real such thing exists? this is like that movie the invention of lying. how to have an imagination
>>541598387>pedo supports CSAMWow, what a shock. You are so brave for sharing.
Figments of the imagination don't need to be protected. Real children need to be protected. If you're telling me that you can't tell the difference then you are probably the biggest threat to children.
>>541598496>impotent rageNobody cares what you want tho
does that mean states can't legislate against it?
>>541598517Sunday school teacher when I was 5. I prefer not to think about it. But just to break trends it was a middle aged black woman and not a catholic priest.
>>541596768nobody better make porn of my girlfriend, will absolutely find you.
>>541598674I mean if they want to ignore the 1st Amendment they can, the South did.
>>541597729abortion is a nothingburger btw, its just a clump of cells
>>541598606Where the fuck do you get that from what I said? I am a lot of things, but there is nothing worse to me than pedophilia. My future was ripped off its path. Kindly go fuck yourself.
How and WHY does the AI know what CP looks like?
>>541596768This is awesome, we need to do this in Australia. It's rare to see Americans being this based for once. No one should go to prison for looking at pictures, end of story.
>>541598263Rocksy Lighthttps://ososedki.com/photos/-10000001_10007577
kiddiefucker.AI incoming
>>54159735420k is not brokie, retard. You can buy a house for that in a 100% white country.
>>541596793It's just a weave
Genning porn of real people, even adults, shouldn't be allowed.
>>541598883Ahahahahaha
MORAL FAGS, BTFO!
>>541596768Law should be based around harm. This shit just falls into things that make us feel the ick but there's no reason to have police/court resources burned on them when there is no victim to have justice for.
Fucking duh. The argument against mere possession of CP was always weak and spurious. This also by extension will include human drawings, so lolicons win once again.Anyone who gets the ick over this should kill themselves.
>>541598763It’s just a clump of pixels
>>541598969People already can't tell the difference between AI and the real thing. This is definitely going to facilitate CSAM
>>541596768Good. The Supreme Court struck down a cartoon loli porn law a few decades ago on the same general principle -- it's just a fucking cartoon, yes it's disgusting but it isn't a criminal offense, First Amendment allows even disgusting crap. Naturally, Congress got its panties in a wad and immediately passed the same exact law all over again with the magic words "because it affects interstate commerce" added to make le heckin' bannerino all totally constitutional. Now someone's gotta fight it all over again if they want to get that version struck down. Hopefully this case stands and the law is declared unconstitutional, I'll have to try to find the opinion and read it.Seriously fuck Congress, don't they have anything better to do like balance the budget or end Trump's pointless war-for-Israel?
>>541596768AI generated lolitas here we cum!
>decades of mutt #PedoPanic LARPing>proceeds to 'elect' an infamous pedo>pulls out all JEWdicial stops to protect Mossad's pedo honeypot>bookends empire by legalising pedo shitWeimar is cash AF!
>>541597167>it's illegal if you share it and the hardware to just le do it at home costs as much as a new car.This ain't even true bro. Anyone who can afford a gaming PC can run a model at home. If you spent $20k on hardware you can run a REALLY GOOD model at home. Pewds did it from scratch but nobody needs to do that, openweights has most of what anyone needs to get it running.
>>541599084We're fappin' good tonight, pedo bros...>next stop:>coprophilia
>>541599060>fuck Congress
>>541596768>peophiles in government>are pedos for real with real photos as evidence>change pedo laws before MAGA gets midtermed>arrest them all>"t-that's just ai! no body no crime!"
>>541599057Using it to create imagery of existing people is still a crime because it basically victimizes that person by effect of creating an obscene image of them that is damaging to them.
>>541596768>>541596768I m undecided of thnat.I mean it is generative like you asking chatgpt some questoins. YOu may not like that but that is tolerance.I dont like that either.
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>>5415988024chan scrapping
>>541599227I would also ask how they obtained the "case".
>>541597453The only defense against this is full drive encryption of all storage media in your house. That said, once you do this, it's an extremely strong defense that WILL hold up in court. The biggest flaw in this is video game consoles that don't support full device encryption. I recommend getting rid of them entirely AT THE POINT AT WHICH you suspect you've drawn LEO attention. It's fine if you're under the radar, but be prepared to pull out the HDDs and wipe them if necessary.At that point even if they feds plant a stash of CDs or flash drives and try to claim they're yours, it's easy to point out that EVERYTHING ELSE is fully encrypted, and that it makes no sense to fail to encrypt the actual illegal shit without your fingerprints on it.
>>541599209Most paedophiles are Leftists.>LGBT>Muslims>beaners>IndiansAll vote Left.
>>541596768Guaranteed the simp/cuck soifaggots on r*ddit sucking each other off in fake outrage over this decision, will be the first gooners shamelessly cranking their hogs to this shit
>>541596768Massive feminist butthurt incoming
>>541599297Way too lazy to do that.
>>541598949This graph is fake. Actual study:https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1016/S0005-7894(05)80039-5https://gwern.net/doc/psychiatry/1995-hall.pdfIf you insist on spamming that image, here's a version that's more accurate to the study.
>>541596768It should be illegal. Not because of ethics (they’re just pixels) but because of common sense. If AI becomes virtually impossible to distinguish from the real thing it would then make it harder to prosecute and punish those possessing actual CSAM. Sure, there are telltale signs still but eventually even those won’t remain, leaving a generated image identical to the real thing. At most it should be a reduced punishment if found to be generated. Not legal to privately possess it.
>>541597137>NOOOOOO REEEEEEE A FOREIGN COUNTRY HAS A RULE I DONT LIKE
AI generated images are victimless crimes. You would be jailing people for harming no one.
>>541596768>>541596793this is just one of those things that is terrible, but ultimately free expression. like screaming nigger or faggot
>>541599638though i do hate AI and wish for it to be dismantled
Did you know it's legal to keep and distribute rat bird comics?
>>541597657See here:>>541597651 it should be kept legal until you convict your child serial killer hero. An eye for an eye.
>>541599403It may be illegal in Germany/EU anyway. I know encryption is legal in USA and you can't be charged with refusing to decrypt, but the laws are probably different and more tyrannical over there.In your case I would simply not keep electronics in your living space if you're worried about the feds. Complete and total no storage media beyond phone, which I would encrypt anyway, but wipe all the time.It's hard to say there's any speech more powerful in the EU right now than having and raising white children. Better to remain silent and fight the demographic battle than to speak up and get imprisoned and raise no children for the future fight.
>muh pixels>muh fake AI which doesn't depict real peopleHow do you think it was trained to produce the material?
>>541597839I notice that trannies hate or love whatever the jews tell them to. Like they are specifically the biggest goyim of any group. Trannissaries lol
Lost epstein posting, lost israel posting, lost pedophile posting, lost fed posting, lost american first posting. This pace may even see rightoids lose tranny posting before 2027.
>>541596768Cope can no longer AI generate infinite CP to plant on your computer, and you’re complaining?Personally I’m pretty pissed. I spent over a decade using hard drugs and bizarre porn to destroy my sexuality until I stopped being a pedophile. I used to be an exclusive pedophile. After some mental, physical, and moral damage the smuttiest lolicon I loved when I was 20 is like looking at bricks.I no longer have a sexual orientation. My bodily image is a skeleton with a dick. I have a collection of fetishes used by a demon to sate a basic hunger without joy or enthusiasm. It has all the fun of taking a shit. And now I get to watch jews move the needle until pedophilia is normal and thereby, remove the social shame/ick factor that was what primarily traumatized girls, eventually making it moral, like it was 400 years ago. Knowing,For sureI can not go backThere is measurable brain damage. I sacrificed 15 IQ points, down from 132, to stop being an autistic pedophile. And now CP is legal. So I could have just stayed a pedophile and lived in the middle of nowhere. Great.
>>541599297People with clean devices have been put in prison because their name was attached to an IP and nothing else. The process is the punishment.
>>541599421Those degenerate men deserve to rot in prison.
>>541596768if true it means Texas puritans can eat shit as they will no longer be able to arrest weebs for having anime images
>>541599447The correct solution is to respect the first amendment protections for freedom of THE PRESS and not prosecute people for possessing products of THE PRESS. Not to worry about whether or not pictures give someone the ick and ruining lives over it.>>541599764lol retard
>>541598606I hope that demon lindsey gets fucking raped to death in prison by incels
>>541596793>make an illegal machine gunIt's just atoms!>murder somebody in cold bloodIt's just nature!>poison the city's water supplyIt's just chemicals!
>>541596768So wait it only allows anime loli shit? Would realistic AI images still be illegal? Because if that's the case basically nothings changed.
>>541596768foids will seethe over this while at the same time wanting to legalize (real) child murder
>>541599638>screaming nigger or faggot>terriblego back
/b/ must be ecstatic
>our governments and corps are owned and ran by child rapists and murderers>all this fake and gay seethe over fiction>age gap hysterics over adults in their 20sI'm tired
>>541599060The jewish bolshevik representatives of the state of israel do that alot, dont they? They just break the law over and over again and are never arrested. It’s actually a felony to reintroduce legislation that was just declared y constant.
holy shit what the fuck. well at least the courts are not being pressured to rule based on morality and fucking with the constitution. but still how the fuck
I assume its whatever federal district has California.
>>541598802
>>541596768why is a pro-white board full of pedos?
That's consistent with how courts have always ruled. Art is art regardless of the method of creation. Deal with it.
>>541599299don't forget kikes.
>>54159676820 billion year old dragon lolis back on the menu
>>541599818Correct. They knew their law couldn't be upheld, but they passed it anyway.
>>541599847Ha. Alright. Well if it goes that way, I hope you’re alive to see the obvious fallout.
>>541600047Many of us are jewishMoot himself was a jew
>>541599692train it on naked adults and clothed children? or do you also think AI can't generate a dragon because dragons don't exist?
>>541600047Did ptg not tip you off?
>>541596768victimlessroasties giong to sneed
>>541596768So they reaffirmed loli/sho isn't the same as flesh and blood human kids?Good.
>>541598949wow, so men suddenly become attracted to girls who finish puberty, and then stop being attracted to women once they can no longer give birth? how could this happen?
>>541599855That second one is literally a leftist talking point right now
>>541596768> privately possessAI needs media to train on. What do pedos feed to their models?
>>541599976>>541600047Because porn is considered by you jews to be covered under the first amendment, it logically follows that fake images of fake people must have that same protection as well.
>>541600238Yes, this means they can uncensor elin in Tera! Ah, too late for that game.
>>541599855All 3 of your attempts to negate anon's argument are tangible and real, pixels are not.
>>541597167? No ? People are genning video local now on 8 gigs of fucking vram and genning simple autistic shit like /picrel is almost instant now.
>>541596768Once again, human artists taking an "L."
>>541600362>DanerA part of me hopes that generative AI never improves, it's given me so many giggles.
>>541596768based
>>541597213I don't believe this. Maybe naked children in "art" poses, but are you telling me you could have the full anthology of "Daisy's Destruction" in Russia, 100% legally?That would literally be pictures of of obvious crimes (even in Russia).
>>541600335Too soon
>>541597098It's less of "is it banned" and "is it Constitutionally consistent for the feds to ban it"But these same people claim bribing...ehem...lobbying politicians is protected by the 1st, so it's not surprising that the same pedophiles give themselves an excuse.
>>541596768oy vey this is antisemiticonly the chosen people get to look at naked children
>>541597839Anyone with a functioning brain hates ai.>Jannies>Trannies>Jews>Jeets>AIInto the trash it goes.
>>541597907>while they're simultaneously protesting for the acquittal of a literal triple baby-killer. Not to mention the daily pro-abortionHoly false equivalence desu, this is like comparing you putting someone else's dog down because it barks sometimes vs you putting your own dog down because it has cancer and is unwellStop trying to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies faggots, literally no one with a braincell to spare is on your side
>>541601174If women weren't so fucking dumb, I might consider it.You dumb bitches are destroying civilization.
>>541596768Just murder your kid before birth and after to feel better
>>541596768This doesn't mean a whole lot. Obscenity has always been the workaround for criminalizing first amendment speech, and it's pretty much a guarantee that AI cheese pizza indistinguishable from the real thing will fail all points of the Miller Test with any juryFaggots just want to virtue signal
>>541596768Some people will claim slibbery slobe therefore it should be banned but use the same argument on anything offensive to anyone that you might have on your computer.Do you privately have on your computer any variation of the thieving Jew meme (you're on /pol/, yes you do)? That would technically be a felony in almost every single Republican state under these rules.How about a meme that makes fun of blacks with crime statistics? A felony in every Democrat run state. No sane person wants to live in that world. Freeze peach is the only thing we have over other countries. Don't let them take it.
>>541601174It seems like a "false equivalence" to you because you wrongly serve a pseudo-sacred moral priority of the female(tm) and think they are "special" when it's just a social construct.
>>541596768>WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU
>>541596768It's weird to think that if you had a 921,600 roman tesserae in different colors you could arrange them in a 1280x720 grid in such a way that the resulting image could land you in prison for 50 years or more.It's nonsensical.
>>541596855A hero.
>>541598802T̸̖͌h̶̭̺̓e̴̡̠̞̜̣̿̍̈ ̷͕͌̔͛S̴̫̞̩̈́̔̌͘o̴̱͌̃̽͑͊̀̚͝u̶̠̣͍̻͇͖͒̏l̴̳̦̭̝͉͑͂̍̈͝ ̷̨͙̩̪͎͓̏̇͘͘͝͝͝L̵̠̣̬̺̒͋̈́̈̓̈͘͘e̵̬͙̓́̌͆̔a̸̢͉̬̰͓̗̒͐̀̍͠r̴̢̢̞̮̞̤͖̉͜n̴͎̭̺̖̖̠̈́̆̑̎s̴̡̪̹̣͔̼̔́̎̄̉͑̚
>>541599669>raise children for the future fightthat's not what raising children are for
>>541601174That was 2015. We're debating if woman are allowed to have post birth abortions now. Keep up.
>>541601174post tits
Its referring to anime and cartoons. Realistic depictions of real looking children still falls under CSAM laws which will land you in prison where you sickest belong.
>>541600634>>541597167Took less then 1 minute and 20 seconds to gen this on a 16 gig 5070ti
>>541600243the graph is fakesee: >>541599421
>>541601739What is your software setup like? I've been wanting to get into this but just never really knew how to start. My card is slightly (cope) weaker than a 5070ti but it has 16gb a video ram.
>>541598802Because a fuckton of that shit has to be trained on in order to teach the ai what not to produce, double edged sword.
>>541596768Fuck off whore. I'm for anything that makes roasties seethe
>>541598802How does it know what literally any fictional thing looks like?
>>54159852690%+ of all victims are known to the offender. Dad, brother, uncle, priest etc. Stranger danger is rare in comparison already, the isolation of all humans makes it more so.
>>541601891Pretty sure a lot of the assault are commuted by other kids under 18 too.
>>541598802>inference model knows what kids look like>inference model knows what naked women look like>inference model has medical texts and images>user corrects the model until it approves of the output>this corrected output further polishes the model for future inferenceIt ain't rocket surgery. Motherfuckers act like the ability to conceive of a nude child is some esoteric black magic of impossible noneuclidian geometries
Have you fellas seen what kind of videos are on normie tiktok? I am fraid to say but it reminds me of 2005 youtube...
>>541601822It's just comfyui portable the MiniMax-H3 model and the 4 step turbo lora at 6 steps
Someone post the whole article
>>541599664this guy doenst know shit about eggs.all egg laying creatures lay eggs all te time just unfertalized. the fact kass hasnt layed eggs is retarded. he doenst have to have sex to lay eggs its just routine. WHERE IS MY EGG LAYING SCENE
so, take any real cheese pizza, and put it through an engine that modifies it and watermarks it = legal? Your honor, this is clearly watermarked. Your honor, this doesnt depict a real person, it just resembles one passably>which real person does it depict, prove itcheckmate, moralists and cops lose. I think a lot of creeps just got a get out of jail free card.
Ahhh shit looks like all of /b/ is safe
>>541602061Enjoy sitting in jail and fighting it for years. Especially if you cant afford a layer and bail.
>>541596768Reddit and /pol/ are seething uncontrollably about this which means it must be a good thing and actually respect my liberty.
>>541602029Thank You! That's enough for me to start figuring this shit out. I've got a bit of experience with Comfy doing pictures but always got confused by all the lora things. I just need to apply myself more.
>>541596768what about softcore pics Ukranian child models that posed with parental consent 20 years ago?
>>541596768Men are instinctively being attracted to younger and younger females as a response to women's whorishness because men are all hard wired to seek a partner with a Hymen.this is hardwired into men because women are hardwired to pairbond with the first man that breaks their hymen.It's that simple.You want to solve Pedophilia?fix women, and you can only do that by destroying (((what))) is corrupting them.Pedophilia is an Effect not a Cause.You solve problems by eliminating the (((Cause))).
>>541596768>>>/b/ won. 4chan itself won. Life is great. God is good!
>>541601767Different studies don't invalidate the other necessarily. You know that right? Two things can be true at once?
>>541601822Also holy fuck a sample size of 80 is DOG SHIT
>>541596768Great news for huge pieces of fucking human garbage.
lolichads... our response?
>>541602315Don't forget that one Playboy(or was it hustler?) that no one ever got arrested for.
>>541602187not me, no way, honest. at this point only grade A retards and freemasons would get caught dead with legit cp. or anyone targeted for removal from society by the same. Its like Kid Charlemagne, ban it if you want to score points for public morals, but you cant stop it and the hard work is done. its out and free, the tech is basically just data, math, and programs available as patent papers. loli escaped /b/ containment at this point and the courts just acknowledged it.
>>541600351Pixels are real and viewing them in certain ways causes harm
>>541596768>retards argue about this>whipped into a frenzy>call to repeal the 1st amendment >hand rubbing intensifies Normalfags will get played
>>5416000079th circuit is CA
>>541600121He's not dead, he IS paralyzed from the chest down which is even gayer
it's just a hormonal imbalance ladies
Doesn't this just come down to: "You can gen it, but you can't share it"?
>>541600266Scary, isn't it?>>541600351>pixels aren't realAre words in books not real either? How far do you want to stretch the truth, all for the sake of... looking at naked children? What kind of person supports this behavior?
>>541596768RULED BY iSRAEL
>>541596768>IT’S OFFICIALLY LEGALyeah duh, its not real cp. this is american freedom.
>>541596768Normalfags are not even slightly prepared for the AI future. We're in the foothills and they're already losing their minds. A ton of them still have this idea that if the 'bubble' bursts it all goes away.
>>541602604>words in booksHow the fuck do you fuck up EVEN FUCKING HARDER and then hit post you dumb whore?
>>541602593The article said you can "possess" it, but generating or distributing it is still illegal
>>541599855>illegal machine gunguns should not be illegal if we have the 2nd amendment, retard.
It’s literally a victimless crime. It’s gross but it’s the correct ruling.
>>541602742>but generating or distributing it is still illegalhow does that make any sense?
>>541602388>Different studies don't invalidate the other necessarily. You know that right? Two things can be true at once?Let me rephrase and elaborate it to make it clearer. The graph doesn't exist in the study it claims to be from. There is only a single study being discussed there.
>>541602325If you wished all the jews away there would still be feminist cancer
>>541601822This is why you just go to the source: Everyone is lying"Self-reported and physiological sexual arousal to adult and pedophilic stimuli were examined among 80 men drawn from a community sample of volunteers. OverlA of the current subjects self-reported pedophilic interest or exhibited pentle arousal to pedophthc sttmuli that equalled or exceeded arousal to adult stimuli. The hypothesis that arousal to pedophilic sttmuh is a function of general sexual arousability factors was supported m that pedophihc and adult heterosexual arousal were positively cor- related, parttcularly in the physiological data. Subjects who were highly arousable, insofar as they were unable to voluntarily and completely inhibit their sexual arousal, were more sexually aroused by all stimuli than were subjects who were able to inhibit their sexual arousal. Thus, arousal to pedophflie stimuli does not necessarily correspond with pedophlhc behavior. ">Over 1/4th of men are sexually aroused by cunny Now the sample size, as I said was 80 which is trash, but...>Seventy-nine of the 80 subjects indicated at least some sexual interest in adult women, and all 80 subjects reported that they had engaged in sexual acts with adult women (mean number of acts = 9.44, SD = 1.61). Sixteen of the 80 subjects (20070) admitted at least some pedophilic interest, and 3 sub- jects admitted to engaging in pedophilic behavior. These latter 3 subjects were not removed from the analyses in an effort to maintain the representativeness of the sample. Adult heterosexual interest was correlated .36 with adult heterosexual acts. Heterosexual pedophilic interest was correlated .42 with heterosexual pedophilic acts. Adult heterosexual interest was correlated .19 with heterosexual pedophilic interest.Face it rosties, men like cunny
>>541602785>>541602805Your shit is just as fake and gay as the original.Go, actually, read the study.https://gwern.net/doc/psychiatry/1995-hall.pdf
>>541596768Was it ever illegal in united state of Jefrey esptein ?
>>541602792correctbecause it's already been deployedbut as long as they exist any solution cannot be permanent because they will just relaunch the feminist bioweapon
>>541596768I wanted to go check /gif/ for Nepal content but I should probably give them some time to calm down. It probably looks like year 1 /b/ over there right now.
>>541602762I didnt say it made sense, just thats the narrow clarification made with this ruling. The article also mentioned this seemingly contradictory stance
>>541596768But libs want to kill free speech if it offends someone. This will be overturned.
Reminder this magic number 18 thing comes from freemasonry, Christianity has always taught as it is written in Scripture that a woman is ready for marriage about a year after hitting puberty which would be in the range of 12-13 it was routinely common in the United States leading up to the 1960s for men to marry 14-year-olds in fact it is still legal to marry a 14 year old with parents permission in most states this pedo panic stuff is literally extremely new I'm talking like if you're a millennial invented in your lifetime
>>541596768>Synthetic images not related to child abuse>Isn't child abuse material Whoa... No way.
>>541602866Still not allowed. The US still has freedom of association and 4chan is a privately owned site so 4chan can still ban it.
>>541602861No, there can never be a permanent solution unless an invinicble, incorruptible machine-god controlled humanity
>>541603084Yes there is a Final Solution kike.Take away womens rights.
>>541602714>bro the fictional character's dialogue is in books, so it's not real!>that means it's okay for the fictional character to give incredibly detailed instructions on how to build a pipe bomb! Like really really incredibly specific instructions! And actually, we made an AI video that shows an AI person building an AI pipe bomb as a tutorial! You see what I'm getting at? Or is your obsession with naked children obstructing your mind from understanding?
>>541602743And yet they are, because the law isn't banning the ability for a person to assemble atoms, but instead banning a civilian from constructing a machine gun.
>>541603143I'm not a jew you retarded simp. Getting rid of jews won't actually prevent feminism.
>>541603163Nah, your a fucking nigger and should be strangled
>>541596768A major win for the Indian and Jewish diasporas!>But in all seriousness: Just nuke the entire Earth atp
Hey, chat, is this real?
>>541603263>if you don't want to look at pictures of naked children, you deserve to dieDo pedos really?
>>541602040I don't think thats true, in fact I'm pretty sure eggs after sex is the norm for most species. Either way scavs are fucked up unnatural mutants.
>>541603250getting rid of jews gets rid of the sourcethe actual solution is sexbots with artificial wombs because that would make foids obsoleteforcing them to give up their rights in order to continue existingremoving their rights makes them stay virgins longersolving pedopheliaI know the concept of causality is hard for retards but try to keep up
>>541603301I dont remember stuttering you facetious little jew
>>541603359And yet you refuse to state your position, but instead respond with vague aggression. Tell us what your position is on pictures of naked children, unless you're a coward.
>>541603358>getting rid of jews gets rid of the sourceNo it doesn't, Karen.
>>541596768Women care more about pixels than aborted babies.
>>541603416
>>541603017Why do you want to marry a 14 year old
>>541596793It's absolutely degenerate as fuck but honestly this. If it's not a real person, and doesn't represent an actual person, banning it is kind of like thought crime level bullshit. Still disgusting though.
>>541603163You know the Anarchist Cook book is perfectly legal right?
foids really shouldn't have rights omg
>>541602458Traci Lords was 16 in Penthouse Brooke Shields was 10 in Playboy
>>541597599this
>>541603529You mean the book that doesn't actually have complete instructions? The book that, if you tried to follow, would result in you going to the hospital or just dying? My example is talking about complete instructions that would result in an actual explosive device. Functionally, this "AI CP" looks identical to the same images that a predator would take of a real child, so that is why my example cannot be compared to the phony Anarchist's Cookbook.
>>541602498>viewing them in certain ways causes harmLolol no it doesn't. Most of the other examples make sense because there is a victim. Well, machine guns shouldn't be illegal, but that's besides the point. Your stipulation that viewing causes harm is pure bullshit. It's only harmful if it features a real human victim.
>>541602275The furry models make the coolest looking shit.
>>541603561traci lords looked like a 30 year old when she was "underage" doing porn, though it was pretty weird that they put brooke shields nude not only in playboy but in a few movies as well when she was very much an actual child.
>>541599421So you're allowed to own cp as long as you're doing research on it?
>>541603143>you were born too early>you were born too latefeels bad man
>>541597167>the hardware to just le do it at home costs as much as a new car.That's what Scam Altman wants you to think
>>541596768Lolicon is legal till proven obscene, otherwise it's art. It's usually is only considered obscene on a state level and if you get to a federal level they'll clear it due to supreme court rulings, though if you have proper cp you are giga fucked and it will count as real cp.>>541597167lol, get a load of this dumbass nigger faggot
>>541603359>>541603385Oh hey look, this guy ran away like a coward!
>>541596793>what could go wrong with AI generated child pornthe problem is that indulging in perversion leads to more perversion... karmic action acting as a field, craving as moistening water, ignorance as sheltering darkness, and consciousness as a seed giving birth to the sprout of subsequent becoming...
>>541603163None of that should be illegal. Only actually building and deploying one should be.
inb4 despite this retarded ruling they still agree to censor chinese cartoons.
>>541602976>This will be overturned.Completely irrelevant when you consider the sheer volume and ease of access. Imagine you make THC illegal but then you go outside and everywhere you look there's budding cannabis plants.Normalfags don't understand what's happening with AI right now, especially local chinese models. Just a few days ago a PREVIEW of a coding model got released that performs similarly to opus4.8 which was state of the art back in May of this year. It fits and runs on 16GB of VRAM + 64GB DDR4 because it uses a SSD to preload highly relevant token combinations (oversimplified explanation).No, it's not a video model but it's a good way to summarize what's happening across the industry.
>>541603561>PenthouseThat was it.>Brooke Shields I didn't know about that one.>>541603679According to the wiki they got away with it because of some technicality in NY law. More like they knew the right people if you ask me.
>>541603859>indulging in perversion leads to more perversionif that were true everyone on /d/ would all be cannibal rapists by now.
>>541596768and then one day for nor reason at all....
>>541603887So you agree a final, assembled product is where you draw the line? Great, now how do you determine fake CP from real CP if fake CP is identical to real CP? If this AI-instructed pipe bomb is built to be identical to a real one, then it doesn't really matter whether AI was involved in its creation, as we're talking about the final result.
>>541603958China is going to be the savior of humanity at this point. They will keep jews from having a monopoly on AI, and they'll undermine the business models of the evil companies who want to induce a hardware shortage in order to force everybody to move towards cloud computing forever.
>>541597167>and the hardware to just le do it at home costs as much as a new carread my 2nd post
>>541603630Yes it does you fucking retard. I have personally built many things in that very book. My buddy learned basic bomb making from that book . Does everything work?> No, but, that isn't my point. FFS Why do people have to cope so hard?The point is that reality and fiction are two different things FAGGOT. No matter how far you want to stretch the truth.Even if I have a fucking100% realistic virtual child to suck me off every single fucking day that still wouldn't be reality. Fuck you nigger kill yourself. Shit, on top of that, take your children, wife, and whole leniage with you.
>>541603964We all know the answer and it's one word.
>>541603995Building and deploying a bomb should be illegal because it creates victims and puts others at risk. The mere act of studying and sharing chemistry related to explosives shouldn't be illegal.
It was only a matter of time. Can you imagine the million rabid foids tipping the FBI every day that the AI attractive 18 year old images are pedophilia.
>>541603995What is this gay ass fucking strawman argument? The difference between real cp and fake cp is not my fucking problem.
>>541603958>it's not a video modelI mean minimax h3 got released and that shit works great, uncensored btw
>>541604108And the creation and dissemination of child porn should be illegal, regardless of whether AI is involved or not, because the final product is indistinguishable. >>541604077>Does everything work? NoCool, you validated my statement. Otherwise are you admitting to constructing a destructive device without permission from the federal government? You seem really upset because somebody thinks child porn is disgusting.>>541604156No, you're problem is that you like looking at naked children, and apparently you are also building bombs?
>>541598456I always wonder whether or not Jews or Nazis are the bigger Negevists..
>>541598220Need names brazilnon
>>541603958>>541604049Also to clarify, when I say preview, I don't mean a tech demo they're keeping behind closed doors. You can use it right now because they released the weights and it works as intended. They're using it to demonstrate the techniques their next generation of models are currently being developed around so they call it a preview.
>>541603995>now how do you determine fake CP from real CP if fake CP is identical to real CP?If it can be tied to a real person who has really been abused, it can be used as evidence in abuse charges. If it's impossible to tie it to a real person, then - for better or for worse - it should not be considered legally relevant.>inb4 what about all the human trafficking victims who can't be tracked down!?Gee, I dunno, how about actually doing something about human trafficking instead of directing all our attention and effort on people masturbating to drawings? State and federal efforts against ACTUAL sex crimes and ACTUAL trafficking are a fucking joke.
>>541603639Moron, if it creates a culture and normalises illegal desires, then it is illegal
>>5415967681. It's not the responsibility of the federal government to care about what degeneracy people have on their computer, as reprehensive as it is2. Having a supreme court of judges who are above the law and can magically interpret what is constitutional and isn't constitutional leads to tyranny and was not how the founders wanted laws to be decided
>>541596768The pixels...! SOMEBODY THINK OF THE PIXELS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>541604401>it creates a culture and normalises illegal desiresBut enough about vidya.
>>541604250Creating and distributing non-AI child porn is illegal because it creates victims. If no child is victimized in the process, it shouldn't be treated as being identical to a crime where a real life child was abused. This should be quite simple to understand. You are pretending as though the act of firing up a GPU is equivalent to the act of raping a child. The only exception would be in the cases where real CP was used to train models, or the likeness of an existing child was used to create deepfakes. These involve actual victims and should be treated differently.
>>541603995I've played with enough AI (comfyUI/automatic1111) to know that if a model can generate something really well it was probably trained on it. One thing Ive noticed is a lot of AI models are really bad at generating kids unless its anime/cartoon kids. It generates things like adult skin, faces, or hands. A lot of that has to do with consent laws so a lot of the training is done with stock photos of kids. Now Ive never tried generating any nude pics because I don't want that shit in my life. But if you showed me some AI generated CP that looked convincing I would guess the model in question was trained on the real thing.The only way to be sure would be to analyzed the checkpoints, and any loras used. Or search whoever made the models.
>>541604378Ya, but that would require genuine effort and that impotent faggot just wants to pretend he isn't lorded over by monsters.
>>541604250Moral fags should literally be shot in the face.I literally hope someone rapes and kill you tomorrow.You can blow stuff up outside city limmits fucking worthless, limp wristed, fag.Also, there you go, attacking people just for defending literal fiction equating that argument with beating off to literal child porn.People like you really, really, need to be taken out back and shot.
>>541596768lmao they will cry about AI shit but will support lindsey clancyeat shit feminist
>>541604378>>541604480>>541604522So if CP can be used to track down real victims, but then the internet is flooded with fake CP that is indistinguishable, doesn't that just make it harder to save people? Think of every reported CP image as a bomb threat, and then imagine for every real bomb threat, there are also 100 fake bomb threats. How can the police meaningfully react? Fake CP impedes the investigation of real abuse. Making a fake bomb and planting it somewhere as if it is real is not "constitutionally protected" for the same reason fake CP should not be considered "constitutionally protected".As for how the model is trained, how can we be sure whether it was trained on real CP or not? If it was, then how would you classify the creations of a model inspired by real CP?>>541604560>if you don't like looking at pictures of naked kids, you should dieHmm, second time this happened in this thread.
>>541596768>Sexual abuse is Free Speech
>>541599447>Meanwhile in reality, not upside down anon's fantasy world, none of the rich faggot child molesters in the Epstein files will ever face prosecution Gotta ban pixels, they're too life like
>>541604590>HmmmCan you be honest for one second? Or are you just a kike who can't help but lie?
>>541604401>Opposite actually happens.Normal Porn reduces real sex and sex crimes.Every nation that bans fictional content has increased CHILD SA/Child Rapes, which you would know if you looked at your own countries statistics.Freedom of Expression is protected under the 1st Amendment, just because you find it distasteful does not make it illegal or unlawful.What you are suggesting will not only tie up law enforcement to go after non-crimes, but it in all instances increases harm to children.Though these days, woman want to kill and harm children so I guess foids will vote for what they want.
>>541604604Sexual abuse is Free Speech
>>541596768No victim, no crime. That's been the case for a long time. If citizens woke up and realized that many things would become legal like driving without a seat belt, there's no victim so there's no crime. Driving through a red light. There's no victim so there's no crime. That's the true law. That's the law of the Constitution which is supposed to be the supreme law of the land. If you aren't hurting anybody, people are supposed to leave you alone
>>541604401People like this didn't grow up when Shillary Clinton tried to say video games make kids insane psychopathic murders.
>>541604590*Makes realistic dragon.*>How can you be sure this wasn't using training data from a real dragon?
>>541604639Do you think I am being dishonest about my position that I think pictures of naked children are disgusting as are the people who like to look at them? Why do you want me dead for this opinion?
>>541604673It all comes down to authority vs liberty. For some of us, it's in our blood to hate authority. I would say that's the defining measure of a true American.
>>541604667
>>541604460>Of Thomas Jefferson was alive today, he'd support me having AI 'P on my hard drive Oh my fucking goy
>>541604590Are foxes real?
>>541604049>China is going to be the savior of humanityidk about that one but i'll tell you h'wat it certainly isn't going to be Christcucks. The amount of female worship and brown apoligists i've witnessed in modern Christcuckanity is unbelievable. Men pretending whores need to be treated as equals or that 60IQ (average) monkeys on the equator should be welcomed if they wear a cross. Actually sickening. Feminist retards are always shouting 'abort all men'. They're all weak and performative. Meanwhile in China:>Ling ling, we have one chird poricy now>ohhh~>We have daugher, it go trashcanAnd then they actually fucking do it
>>541604805Yes I think you are a dishonest fag.Real children and not real children are two different things. Cope, seethe, dial8 tranny.End all rights for women, NOW!
>>541604820i agree with this 100%. i had a brief 30 minute session where a russian class called in to chat with our american class maybe 7 years ago. they were shocked when i shit talked my president, and when their instructors spoke to them, i could read the clear panic and fear on their faces. america is one of the few places in the world where we poke authority in the eyes.
>>541604590>As for how the model is trained, how can we be sure whether it was trained on real CP or not? If it was, then how would you classify the creations of a model inspired by real CP?The reason they struck this law down was because the law was too broad. We will no doubt see a new law that is tighter in scope that specifically covers creations using real photos. Also it's already illegal to use real children to draw porn so using the real photos to generate AI CP is still a crime.
>>541604860thomas jefferson repeatedly bred his wife's underage half-sister bed wench slave.
>>541604590>So if CP can be used to track down real victims, but then the internet is flooded with fake CP that is indistinguishableThe ruling says that the AI-generated fake CP can't be shared. You just can't prosecute someone merely for having it. Quote:>The US Court of Appeals has ruled that AI-generated porn of fictional children shouldn’t count as possession if it stays in the home.>He was also caught transferring this material to a minor under 16. Anderegg asked the judge to dismiss the indictment, but the request was unsuccessful. >However, the judge removed the possession charge, deeming it unconstitutional in Anderegg’s case, as the First Amendment states that one can “possess obscenity in the privacy of their home,” according to the decision.
>>541604905Anon, why do you have bestiality on your phone?
>>541604657So your answer is pedophiles holding society hostage, suggesting if we don't accept your degenerate behaviour then it will only get worse. Isn't that the exact same narrative as niggers, criminals and jews use? Would making bank robber, assassin, gang shootings, school shooter highlight reels on youtube stop or lower these crimes?
>>541604860>confederate flag>calls Thomas Jefferson a goy Why are you larping as a southerner?
>>541604970FBI agent in training. Kash says it's ok now.
>>541604820Liberty and Justice.Thankfully some trannies crying online aren't the law. Watch if the nigger supreme court overrules this they will come scrambling back.
It was Trump's admin that banned this.
>>541604993I work for his superiors in mossad
>>541604361This why they are so desperate to pass age laws to use the Internet or computers, they want to identify who is using what bots and shit it down before it gets out of control
>>541604974>Would making bank robber, assassin, gang shootings, school shooter highlight reels on youtube stop or lower these crimes?that's an interesting question. here's another one: why are depictions of these and various other violent crimes legal to create, distribute, and possess in the first place? where is the logical consistency?
>>541604905Tonight I listen to russian music, and cry
>>541604974>So your answer is pedophiles holding society hostageThe answer is not giving into retarded witch hunt style hysteria. The judge made the right decision. He actually understands nuance, which is why he's a federal judge and you're just some idiot screeching online.
>>541604974>narrative as niggers, criminals and jews us-If you were roleplaying them in a fictional setting that would also cause no harm.Robbing a fictional bank harms nobody.Playing a fictional black harms nobody.Being a fictional criminal harms nobody.GG.
>>541605064What Russian music is good? This is the only thing I know of https://youtu.be/989-7xsRLR4
>>541604345Brazil: MeladinhaRussia: RocksyLightChina: KittyXkum
>>541604913You come across like an instigation bot rather than a real person. Your responses are incoherent and focused solely on intent to incite rage. Would a real person really get this upset because somebody says that pictures of naked children are disgusting? >>541604952The precedent set regarding drawing using real references is no doubt going to be used for AI image models as well, very good point to bring up>>541604958Given that the court believes these images should not be distributed is quite telling, and it validates my position. Right now, it is not so easy to determine whether the model used real references, but it is trivial to determine whether the creator is distributing them.>>541605041>too afraid to even respond to me
>>541604958>He was also caught transferring this material to a minor under 16. Anderegg asked the judge to dismiss the indictment, but the request was unsuccessful. I've noticed they're always connected to another crime involving minors when the investigators find the fake stuff. tldr; don't touch the kids.
>>541605116Anon, truthfully, I have learned that people will NEVER admit they are wrong, or, sceed any ground on this. I believe some one said this already, but, these people just literally follow whatever is the current thing and when it comes to sexual taboos fucking kids is ony of the biggest ones there is. So to get their fill of moral gratification and brownie points they get to demonize not real lolicon and such. They will never ceed ground because they don't actually give a shit about anything but feeling morally superior.
>>541605120Start with Kino, and work form therehttps://youtu.be/cgjfT7TYDR4?si=jSycJjyM0huA1XM2
>>541603971it is true that indulging in perversion leads to more perversion. take a look around
>>541605064Based I quote him everyday do we know if he's even alive anymore?
>>541605139Bitch, I am sick of having this conversation.Especially with dumb fucks who don'te ven care about truth, or, what is ethically correct, or, justice. You just care about demonizing people so you personally get to feel like a moral crusader. Fucking moralfags.You're so dumb and new that you can't tell >>541604913>>541605041Are both me.What discord did you come from fag?
>>541605283You should instead be sick looking at a pedophile every time you look in the mirror.
>>541605202It doesn't matter if they cease ground, I already seen the slippery slope of censorship of what happens after they ban loli/child content, it goes to "Ban anything I don't like"- Ban young (looking) character.- Ban short characters.- Ban flat-chested characters.- Ban content with ANY minors at allIt's a slippery slope, and only seems to be one sided (female content, and young boys /aka what woman like) is never affected.
>>541596768>Cogitationis poenam nemo patiturIt's true though. Possession of anything should never have been made a crime. It's lazy law enforcement.However, if you commission child abuse by paying for a child to be abused or somehow otherwise cause child abuse or you neglected to prevent child abuse when you had a duty to do so then that is entirely different.
>>541605309Going after people who deliberately generate images of naked children is not a "slippery slope". It is a reasonable action in a society that has come to the conclusion that pictures of naked children should not be freely distributed for the purpose of pleasuring pedophiles.
>>541605308Actually I love myself, lmao.Worthless faggot. Go back to your tranny, kike, discordm Agent Smith.
>>541605379naked, fictional, children.
>>541605120Glukoza is pretty good if you like contemporary.
>>541605308Fictional Pedophile.Fictional Murderer.Fictional Rapist.Fictional Criminal.Fictional Warrior.Fictional Soldier.What do these all have in common?>They are not real. Fuck off.
>>541596768Everyone is pedophile but mohamed. Fking libtard.
>>541605309Lol remember that one woman trying to get that law passed that would ban woman with small boobs from working in porn?>young boys /aka what woman like) is never affectedNoticed that too. Shota stuff is almost never d listed on sites.
>>541605384>if you don't like looking at pictures of naked children, you're a trannyCrazy because trannies are usually accused of being pedophiles. You see how my accusation of instigation bot has merit? What you are saying makes no sense. Trannies are known predators of children, and since you seem to idolize predation of children, you're on the same side as trannies.>>541605418You completely missed the discussion that debunked your argument. Scroll up and reply back before the thread dies.
>>541605379It's always a slippery slope because they are not real, thus anything close to it can be considered a child because of it's appearance regardless of their real age.You literal fucking retard, if you want to remove the first amendment you are no better than the Confederates.
>>541605401How can you prove the model was not trained on real children? Ask yourself why you feel the need to split hairs here? Would you be so upset if somebody sent you images of real CP? Sounds like you'd be quite happy.>>541605494>if you don't support AI-generated CP, you want the 1st amendment repealed!Nigga what?
>>541605483>predators of children>predators of fictional childrenFoid: "THESE ARE THE SAME!!!!!!!!111"
>>541605133Your effort did not go unappreciated anon. You are a true chad for actually following up.
>>541605483Can you say the word fictional? Does admitting that it's not real break your whole world view and ideology? Is that why you refuse to use the word "fictional" even to the extent of it becoming comical?>The nigger who doesn't undersand post ID's is trying to say I am a bot and he is not a tranny.
>>541605483It must of been too retarded so I ignored it.
>>541605061>>541605101>>541605116Ok you win, go for it
>>541605541>fails to understand the principle of the argument>>541605551You really missed the whole discussion about pipe bombs, didn't you? Too busy thinking about naked kids to participate?>>541605576>pretending to be retarded yet expects to be taken seriously
>>541605539How can you prove it was, how can it make a realistic looking hobgoblin without being trained on one?
>>541605539So just forget the AI. Should lolicon be illegal?Also it isn't anyones job to prove something is not something retard, you can't prove negatives. You have to prove it IS trained on real children. That's called shifting the burden of proof.
>>541605052They want ID for a million reasons and i'm sure that's one of them but it's futile. Children are going to run circles around any boomer retard in the government that thinks he's going to control AI by looking REALLY hard at people when they use the internet with a special pass. Speaking of, we knew more about the internet when it came out than we know about AI now.
>>541605483>if you defend personal rights you are a tranny>if you defend personal rights you are a pdf>if you defend personal rights you are a racist>if you defend personal rights you are a terroristit's so tiresome
>>541605612LMAO newfag
>>541605614Let's think about this in the same way you'd take Pascal's wager. If the model is trained on real CP and generates AI CP, you have created CP and go to jailIf the model is not trained on real CP and generates AI CP, you have created images that look exactly like real CP. What did you win by doing this?>>541605623>should lolicon be illegalDrawings that use real children as reference material can land you in legal trouble. What do you gain from playing this "is it or isn't it" game? Why do you want to look at pictures of naked children so badly that you play pilpul with child endangerment laws?
>>541605612>I remember that argument that didn't even make sense to the discussion.You are suggesting that making a real pipe bomb from fictional instructions would make a real one...? What? It's not fiction then.And Fictional Pipe Bombs crafted in 15 seconds based on simplified ingredients and fairy dust don't work outside the video game retard.
>>541596768>women seething that they are not permitted a monopoly on sex.Lol
>>541605133Based ty
>>541605309>Ban short characters.This is basically already a thing. Its why western fantasy games don't have short race love interests. People are well aware that it will attract the Twitter nutjobs
>>541605738See just like I knew you would "Lolicon uses reference material!Prove it
>>541605752My argument, simplified, is this>whether an AI or a person does it, instructing a person to create illegal materials results in the creation of illegal materials. CP distribution triggers reaction from law enforcement, whether it is real CP or AI CP, in the same way a real or fake pipe bomb doesSo, the solution is not to encourage people to make millions of fake pipe bombs, but to instead ask why the fuck anybody would want to do that in the first place? Now replace pipe bomb with CP, and now YOU need to answer why you want to create AI CP?>>541605809Again, what's with the pilpul? What do you gain from playing this game? Why do you want to look at pictures of naked children so badly?
>>541605738>I don't know how AI works.If it was trained, it would have so much data that the individual it did train with would be lost in the sauce. What you are probably seeing is it was trained with real children (non-cp) then it mixed in photos of people to create it. Which is exactly why I suggested the hobgoblin thing.However, in that case, it is so divorced from the original thing that it isn't the same or will never be the same as the original, because it took from so many sources. Only "Lora" are trained on one specific thing, not models.
Lmfao, this fucking retard is tryingt o pascals wager lolicon bwahahaha.>You have everything to lose looking at fake images of children fucking>You have everything to gain by NOT looking at fake images of children fuckingAbsolute insanity. Absolutely spooked.
>>541605884>I can't prove my claims so you're a dirty XYZKill yourself kike.
>>541605884It's not illegal though, it's protected under the Constitution.
>>541603859studies generally indicate the complete opposite, actually
>>541605905>>541605931>refuses to explain why he wants to look at CPYou are incredibly upset but cannot articulate why.>>541605933Building fake pipe bombs and triggering law enforcement investigations is protected under the constitution?
Why are jews like this?
>>541605738I said this earlier. They're also going to put them in jail till they figure out if the photo is real or not. And if they get out on bail they'll have spy apps on all their devices. Then they'll be on a short watch list for the rest of their lives. The process is the punishment. Cops will be sleeping snug while they spend time and money fight fake AI porn possession charges.
>>541605972>uhhh uhhh if you wont copiulate to my moralfagging you look at child porn!>Still can't prove his false, hysterical, claims.Kill yourself kike, nigger.People like you are why moral panics happen.
>>541605998Which is why the obvious solution is to go after the people that are muddying the waters and making it harder to go after pedophiles targeting real children. Screaming "FIRE" in a building is not constitutionally protected in the interests of public safety. This is another example where public safety outweighs any bullshit hocus pocus jewish semantics twisted so that pedos can jerk off>>541606039Look, he's too afraid to even admit that he likes looking at pictures of naked children. This is because his programming prevents him from saying anything illegal. Instigation bots can't violate US law.
>>541605972A fake pipe bomb can still cause real harm or trigger a dangerous response, while a fictional AI image doesn't cause harm, so treating them as equivalent is a false analogy, and is why I said it was retarded.
>>541606107Prove, that lolicon is based on real reference material.He's just resorting to personal attacks now.Frothing at the mouth literal retard.
>>541601482post address
>>541606152A fake image triggers a real law enforcement investigation, which drains real taxpayer dollars and detracts from time that could have solved a real abuse case.>>541606168If you don't look at CP, then you are actually on my side. You might hate to admit it, but if you don't look at CP because you know it's disgusting, then you agree with me. Your actions condemn you to either be on my side or validate any accusation of pedophilia towards you. So pick one. Are you with me or are you a pedo?
>>541606107Except in every case this increases public safety. Also, many are not caught by sharing photos but attacking and doing things to actual minors, like kidnapping, trafficking, sex trafficking. It's also very easy to tell when something is AI vs real because the real thing will look exactly like the real person.In reality, that is usually the last way someone is traced, it's usually because someone bragged about it or they got caught.
>>541606107>in the interests of public safetyExplain in specific terms how anons jerking off in their own homes to porn they generated on their home computer is a threat to public safety.
>>541606251That is the problem, going after fiction itself is a waste of resources. They should be going after grooming gangs, and traffickers. Reckless Ben already found many new things recently and an entire religion involved. In reality, having AI would lower that statistic down to where it isn't relevant anymore so they can go after real predators with those resources.
>CP legal before decriminalized marijuana What timeline are we in?
>>541606251>A fake image triggers a real law enforcement investigationIt shouldn't if it's on your own device and not being actively shared with others. Which is what the court's decision ruled.Unless you're now suggesting law enforcement should be allowed to search people's computers without warrant.
>>541605998>And if they get out on bail they'll have spy apps on all their deviceswhat, like windows 11?>>541606107see >>541602704 both of you
>>541597098If the argument is grounded on it not requiring real people to create, then it should also be fine to make AI images of real kids. In both cases actual flesh and blood human beings were never used to create the image.There are a few more variables required to make this ruling logically consistent.
>>541606284So then historical data would suggest that, back when pedos could buy magazines that featured naked children, there were fewer cases of pedophilia, wouldn't it?>>541606300Do pedophiles ever actually just do this though? Even the guy in the case that triggered this discussion was distributing to minors. You're suggesting that building pipe bombs at home is okay and people should be able to freely build thousands of pipe bombs because maybe they won't use them>>541606335I simply disagree, because the fiction cannot be easily differentiated from real images. The creation and subsequent dissemination of fake CP is a nightmare for law enforcement. There is no advantage to society for AI to run amok creating god knows how many images of naked children>>541606362>it shouldn'tBut it will. You know it will. Why go through such extreme lengths and arguments all for the sake of images of naked children?
>>541606433Actually, the FBI literally told people to stop reporting lolicon a long time ago. You're really just making it harder to catch actual distributors of real seapee
>>541606510You refused to respond to >>541606251 for what reason? I'll repost itIf you don't look at CP, then you are actually on my side. You might hate to admit it, but if you don't look at CP because you know it's disgusting, then you agree with me. Your actions condemn you to either be on my side or validate any accusation of pedophilia towards you. So pick one. Are you with me or are you a pedo?
>>541606433>But it will. You know it will.Just like you know that with the barrier to entry being so low this is never, ever going away. These arguments about semantics and legal definitions are completely pointless. Pretend a law passed tomorrow that bans ALL AI porn. Hardly anything will change because it's so common in so many countries it's impossible to enforce.
>>541606433>Why go through such extreme lengths and arguments all for the sake of images of naked children?>Why go through all this trouble just to argue for youright to free expression? Why not just roll over and let us just create rape dungeons for bad people to constantly be raped in all day long? It's for public saftey.Let's be real, I bet this anon, actually, jerks off to real seapee.That's why he is so obsessed. He's compinsating. Ever met a dude who swears he's not gay but you and everyone totally know he is gay? He makes fag jokes and any time you make one back at him he gets really red faced and defensive?Why do you jack off to CP, anon?
>>541606541>t look at CP, then you are actually on my side. You might hate to admit it, but if you don't look at CP because you know it's disgusting, then you agree with me. Your actions condemn you to either be on my side or validate any accusation of pedophilia towaI'm not responding because you will not answer my question. Answer my question and i'll answer yours ok?
>>541599215How does this make sense with free speech and art? If I drew a realistic depiction of a real child being raped that would be protected, I'm not seeing consistent explanation as to why ai generating that same image would be illegal..
>>541606433Age of consent for most of human history was around 14.It only became 18 from 16 in the last 15 years.>Mah Pipe BombFalse equivalence, a "fake bomb" is a real threat because if it was real it could harm people, because it's a WEAPON, it's why you don't draw a fake gun on a police officer. There is no comparison to a weapon and art, retarded argument.>Law Enforcement ArgumentIf it was legal and 99.99% just used AI, they would not need to do it at all, because no actual children were being harmed, which saves resources. So no need to police anyone, people wouldn't be trading images of real kids because it would all be fake, thus no crime. Traffickers and such don't like to leave traces and are "hard targets" which is what should be the focus because thousands disappear. It actually hurts their business too so their is less incentive to do it.
>>541606625Impossible to completely enforce, but enforcement will happen. Despite the strict gun laws in the UK, people are still manufacturing and using illegal firearms, but does that mean the alternative is to repeal all laws and hold workshops to teach people how to build their own guns?>>541606635>>541606671Look at how you've become a rambling mess. Is it because you know you don't actually "walk the walk" and you're just arguing with me because you can't do anything else? We all know you don't actually look at CP, nor do you ever care to seek it out, because you know it's wrong. You agree with me in action, even if not with words.>>541606738>most of human historyYeah and owning slaves was normal too. Should we repeat the same mistakes instead of learning from them and improving as a society? Fake pipe bomb to fake CP is an equivalent because it requires the same reaction that law enforcement would take to a real pipe bomb vs real CP. As for "hurting the business", I go right back to the fake pipe bomb metaphor. Why should we encourage people to make thousands of fake pipe bombs?
>>541606738>>541606510just realized that the people actually making cp are probably celebrating when they see the public getting all worked up about AI
>>541606852The makers are 100% hoping that AI will give them legal loopholes that they will utilize similar to sovereign citizens.
>>541606838>SlaveryWe already have debt slavery right now via college.>NormalIf something isn't done about birth rates I predict it going back down to 16 in the future.
>>541601174This foid was seething with rage at the original based response it lost it's shit over. Make sure you acknowledge that and talk about Lindsay every time they mention this ruling. lol
>>541606922You don't really think that's the same as chattel slavery, so why bring it up? >legalizing the rape of children will restore birth ratesAre you prepared to march to your town hall and make this point?
>>541596877>>541597016He really did win in the end. Normgroid morality lost.
>>541606838It won't be like gun enforcement anon, not even remotely close. A sub megabyte image can be duplicated infinitely and distributed instantly. It CANNOT be used to rapidly kill people.>>541606912loopholes? anon, they're just glad that the heat is getting taken off of them, not for any legal technicalities.
>>541606975Without real natural growth it will happen with time unless cloning is invented and approved.>Chattel SlaveryYou didn't specify which kind, many different forms exist in history.
>>541607092And in what part of history is owing college debts worse than any fucking form of slavery? What pilpul nonsense is this?>>541607064It's a lot easier to track down people who distribute data, that's for sure.
>>541607150https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_bondage -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_slaveryAre you seriously saying what the blacks went through is worse than sex slavery?
>>541607259>responds with pilpul nonsenseThread's almost dead and I made my points without sufficient dispute to counter, plus I managed to ragebait and scare off a wanna-be pedophile. Nothing else to say here.
>>541607150>aha, we've found the source! >entire petabytes of the stuff is coming straight out of India>And now, we do literally nothing!
So you drew a picture of 1984 bob Sponge fucking a dead star fish... Now if it's real it's Nathan Bedford Forrest Gump kkk racist because a Jew did it.
>>541607325Or there needs to be a worldwide consensus, with penalties for nations that choose to permit the mass dissemination of CP.
>>541607311>I made my points without sufficient dispute to countertechnically correct but ultimately wrong award. You argue in a very Christian way then wonder why the world disregards everything you've said.
>>541607370>with penalties for nations that choose to permit the mass dissemination of CP.AHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH
>>541607435The Crabs whould eat us all..
