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>>541598309>75% fasterSounds unlikely>20 years without refuelingYeah this is some dream ship
>>541598309This was done before actually, not the first time nuclear powered cargo ships have been attempted. But there were only a handful ever made. It's probably not a good idea.
>>541598411>20 years without refuelingisn't that what subs already do? it would just be a large floating nuclear sub, in a sense. it's been done for a long timealso why they don't do this with all transport ships? less pollution
>>541598309>DOMINATE ChinaHow? By making it so all the shit we buy from them glows in the dark by them time it gets here?
>>541598434>It's probably not a good idea.might be, strategically. if they get cut off from oil, like these days, it affects their ability to use the war ships, which can take them out of commission during some big conflict, when also way more other shit requires oil to run.
>>541598488>also why they don't do this with all transport ships? less pollutionI'd imagine a lot of ports don't let nuke powered vessels dock.
>muh chyna SAAAAARAmericans can't into shipbuilding. Most of "their" ships are made in South Korea.
>>541598309This is probably at least ten years too late to make any difference
first ship will be ready in 2035
>>541598488The closer analog would be Russian nuclear icebreakers, but you are more or less correct. Hopefully they use something like the ne generation micro reactors. I would hope the thorium kind so as to moderate the potential environmental disaster if one is lost.
>>541598309They do this to have "unsinkable" cargo ships, right?
>>541598309Coming soon: the sudden and inevitable realization that international shipping is and always was a scam.
>>541598434This. They built them decades ago and quickly realized how bad they were from an economics standpoint. You have to have trained nuclear technicians on every one and secure the fuel rods from theft or misuse.
>>541598536yeah I can't see the problem with jeets sailing these through areas, totally safe
>>541598434>probably not a good idea.find it hard to disagreenuclear propulsion on subs and carriers is fine, the staff are trained for that and they are special ships by definitionon commercial ships, corners will be cut at some point, and then you have a floating chernobyl waiting to happen
>>541598758he left off the part about them being piloted by chatgpt
>>541598756Yeah pretty much this. Handing over a nuclear reactor to sar shipping co. captain rajesh rajinder is not going to work.
>>541598756Good thing the US Navy actively recruits and trains people to do this exact thing!
>>541598756plenty of nuclear engineers from india and pilipino security contractors, and 1/100th of the price as beforenothing will go wrong
>>541598309'MERICA FUCK YEA
>>541598584This is the answer. US aircraft carriers are also nuclear powered and they can only call in certain ports.CVNs also require a shitton of very smart, very highly paid engineers to operate their nuclear reactors, and it's very risky. I'm not sure we should be doing this with cargo ships. How about we just practice building regular ships in America for a bit instead? Maybe build up some industrial base again? The last thing anyone wants is H1B jeets manufacturing and operating floating nuclear reactors going all over the globe.
>>541598828may we see the demographics of thos US navy?
>>541598488Sibs and aircraft carriers. It is a proven time tested technology already being used to move humungous heavy ocean vessels
>>541598693>nuclear icebreakersone of the few non-military absolutely legit use-cases for nuclear propulsion(you get frozen in and stuck, good luck trying to break free, if you run out of fuel)
>>541598584They will let american ships dock or their economies will collapse.
>>541598411how many nuclear powered ships does your country have?that's what I thought, go fuck yourself.
>>541598611Yeah, really don't expect to see this thing built given the current state of US ship building. China accounts for something like 70% of the industry right now. We can barely keep up with maintenance on our Navy ships.
>>541598434the barrier to anything nuclear is unreasonable regulation
>>541598488Why do we need cargo ships? Planning on outsourcing some more of our jobs to foreign countries?
Not a good idea not because they are not effecient. Not a good idea because it makes refined radioactive material readily available well outside the scope of something that can be secured and available to terrorists while also leading to released radioactive material when blown up, sunk, or damaged and leaks into the environment.Why do you want cancerous radioactive isotopes everywhere
>>541598309There's maybe 120 to 160(?) nuclear aircraft carriers and submarines in circulation right now. They've made and fielded ships like these before and they have a couple of pros and cons:-The 20 years without refueling is 100% true. Nuclear submarines and nuclear carriers only need refueling once every 20 to 35 years, depending on usage/size/etc.. The reactor also has constant access to water to boil, cool itself, etc.. By just being in the ocean. CPU ships follow a similar water-cooled thingy.-The emission thing is also true in the regard that the only "direct" pollution a nuclear reactor produces is hot water. The rods/nuclear fuel will become waste after 20+ years of use, but even that can still be re-used/recycled (they don't due to costs). -I haven't seen the schematics or whatever, but "more cargo room" is questionable. The nuclear engine takes up a lot of space for in-flow, out-flow, immersion, radiation shielding, it's fucking heavy, etc.. THE BIG SINGLE HUGE CON is that basically no one feels comfortable with nuclear ships in their bays, harbors, ports, etc.. Just off the top of my head: Japan, Australia, China, the European Union, basically no one wants a nuclear ship, especially a FOREIGN ONE, in their port. So making a trading fleet of nuclear-powered barges is kind of an "Ignorant Central American/African ooga booga government" fopaux.
>>541598821You put their cabins all round in so there is a cushion incase of crash or just put the sewage tanks around it.. Although radioactive curry poo monsters would not be good.
>>541598309>DOMINATE ChinaHow? By bringing more Chinese goods to the US?
>>541598309arctic passage announcement?
>>541598929The white house is painted with a special paint from Germany. They spent millions of $ trying to find an American supplier but failed. You guys love throwing tax money away on wild goose chases.
>>541598309damn that took a long fucking time
China will just build one in 2029 for 1/10th the price lol
They can barely maintain the current engines properly so what will happen when they have nuclear power on board and they start neglecting things? This will not end well...
>>541599096hmmmmnuclear powered ice braking/melting cargo ships
Saaar we spent fuel disposal corp. We accept and dispose properly. Real certificate disposal from diploma mill team. Say in secure underground mountain even if in 55 gallon drums in ocean.
>>541598930for what it's worth finland arguably has the top tier civilian nuclear program of the world.if they wanted to start making reactors for commercial shipping i doubt it would be an issue
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>>541599012The U.S is still powerful enough to force people's ports open for nuclear ships, the problem is that once the precedent is set, the >Dominate Chynanarrative will quickly fall apart here. Like half of the world's under-construction reactors are Chinese, and over half of cargo chips are Chinese. If this becomes the norm, China will be able to mass-produce them long before the novelty of our ships would've worn off.
>>541598309>The first.uuuh yeah.. about that.
>>541598693Don't hold your breath, Anon. Thorium reactors would require a serious push for thorium mining. Thorium mining would revitalize large portions of rural America. Therefore the rootless cosmopolite financial/tech elite are going to be against it.
>>541598411We've had atom splitty aircraft carriers longer than your dad has been alive.
>>541599793Do the Captains of Carriers even has access to the reactor? Like who can and can not access that part of the ship, i've always wondered
>>541599890All the niggers have full access.
>>541599932Lol imagine how fast that fuckin thing would have a catastrophic failure if niggers had access
>>541598309when flying cars?
>>54159886599% of Navy nuclear technitians are White because you have to have high test scores (IQ) and graduate nuke school which, again, takes a high IQ and work ethic. Stop seething, Ling Ling you Manchu rape baby.
>>541598309Yeah, that's exactly what we need in a world where cargo ships get blown up. This administration is so dumb.
It's a fancy water boiler and all these niggas pretend it's somehow more dangerous than being an engine room coal shoveler. You're talking about a job even Jimmy Carter could do.
>>541598848>very smart, very highly paid engineersThey only have to be very smart because when deployed they're running 20on4off schedules that cycle continuously and everyone's operating at a 35iq deficit at all times because of the persistent sleep depravation. If this is a simple civilian shipping situation you're going to have no shortage of nukes and former nukes more than willing to babysit the hardware under far less constraints and pressure.
>>541599932The US Navy has operated nuclear reactors for 75 years, and have had zero accidents in relation to the nuclear propulsion unit. On the other hand, Russia has had literally a hundred accidents operating their reactors.
>>541600184we trained their spies wrong, as a joke.
>>541598682just in time for the next admin to cancel it and replace it with something less retarded
>>541598309Haven't the Russians been doing this for over 50 years?
>>541599890Captain is responsible for all functions the ship.
>cool nuclear-powered cargo ship, broMemes aside, I doubt its going to work because the maintenance costs are crazy. I wouldnt be surprised if the Americans are building their version of the Hindenburg
>>541598309Considering Fukishima had a meltdown and completely fucked up the Japanese coastline because of a tsunami why on Earth would you build a NUCLEAR powered cargo ship that travels through the OCEAN? A nortoriously dangerous place.
>>541598309>not even a decade ago they were trying to stir panic with Russia's floating nuclear reactorsSigh, it's all so tiresome.
>>541600012SHEEEIIIIIIITTTTT WHY THIS THING BE BLUE MANG?!
>>541598434Another issue not mentioned yet is that a lot of ports simply won't allow nuclear-powered vessels to dock. From every angle this is a terrible idea.
>>541600767As long as the ship isn't controlled by Indians near a bridge it should be okay.
>>541598411fingolians and their retardation is legendary
>>541598309more nuclear shitbecause Russia is doing the same?
>>541598411its literally how subs and carriers workthis was experimented with and considered in the 60s and 70s but it was ultimately determined that the cost savings were eliminated by having to hire less retarded people. like you can't safely run a nuclear rector with 20 filipinos with an IQ of 85 which is how we crew typical cargo ships.
>>541598411Aircraft carriers already go 25 years without refueling dumbass.
>>541598309Hopefully it's some partnership with OKLO so I can get some government GIBS via stock.That said, who's akshually going to build the ship for the burgers?
>>541598309>lets put a bunch of third world brown people in charge of little mobile nuclear plantsyeah nothing can go wong here...
>>541600904It works and is legit, why not?
>>541598309kek is this so that Iran doesnt shoot them anymore? lol LMAO
>>541598611While the majority of the world's high-value-added industrial vessels are built in South Korea, our shipbuilding industry is concerned about China's low-price offensive. China's low labor costs pose a significant threat to our shipbuilding industry. China's shipbuilding industry is disrupting the global market with low prices, much like the electric vehicle battery sector.
>>541600427they have nuclear icebreakers but they're military ships. >>541599760as a former thoriumfag it's not really the energy panacea it has been presented as. we don't even have a stationary commercial reactor much less something miniaturized and running in a moving vessel crewed by indians and filipinos.
Totally not a disaster waiting to happen!>Amerigolem fukushima
>>541598914While I agree that NIB are an appropriate use of the technology I can absolutely see the benefit of a newer generation clean small scale reactor for supertankers and cargo. I know your meme flag is supposed to hate nuclear for retarded commie tree hugger reasons, but this application is notionally a huge win for environmentalists for the amount of pollution it could prevent.
The 16 largest cargo ships produce more CO2 than ALL the world's cars. There are over 6,000 cargo ships. The Trump administration just solved global warming/climate change.
>>541598309lollmao
>>541601371That's a real gamechanger!
>>541601371And handed every wannabe terror outfit an easy source for a dirty bomb, nuclear is only good for military applications and that will never change
>>541598434I think it's a singularly bad idea. Most container ships are operated under flags of convenience out of home ports in countries where operating standards are treated more like mild suggestions by crews composed of men too stupid to get a job on land. These are not the kinds of people to entrust with portable nuclear reactors.
>>541601195>Amerigolem fukushimaNewer generation reactors in development operate under low to zero pressure and at least until proven otherwise can't or don't do that without external influence. Also we aren't the only ones developing this tech. China and India are already producing and initial fielding reactors of those type.
>>541598309what happens when these start being sunk in the event of war breaking out? The entire ocean will become radioactive.
>>541598411>75% fastercan a nuklier aircraft carrier cross the oceans 75% faster than an equivalent sized tanker?
>>541601486Too bad the "environmentalists" don't actually care about climate change. They just use it as a scare tactic to forward the globalist agenda.
Isn’t that really dangerous? You will need full time military escorts or pirates will now have access to a floating nuke?
Normally not problem, occasionally ruin whole coastline. Big win for evironment.Just think of reduced emission. Replace mass co2 emissions with low nuclear isotope emissions. Three eyed fish agree.Fish and ocean products only much more canerous to eat. Real men eat land animal like burger.
>>541598309Hundreds of jeet-staffed nuclear reactors traveling the oceans and visiting the world's biggest cities.What could possibly go worng?
>>541601626>can a nuklier aircraft carrier cross the oceans 75% faster than an equivalent sized tanker?Cargo tankers typically travel at an average service speed of 10 to 15 knots (12–17 mph or 19–27 km/h), with some chemical or product tankers reaching up to 17 knots when in ballast (empty). Container ships, the fastest major cargo vessels, generally cruise at 16 to 24 knotsNimitz-class and Ford-class nuclear aircraft carriers have an official top speed of over 30 A carriers top speed (unofficially I've heard is over 45 which is fucking nuts)So theoretically it's top speed is possibly more than 75% of a tanker/cargo ships cruising speed. 75% of 15 Knots is 11.5 and a listed carrier top speed is 35, so yeah it notionally could.
>>541600442So would he/Xer have armed guards and sheeeeittt if they ever needed to go in there? >>541600821Sheeeeeeeeeittttttttt mang dis gaw dammm thang hot as sheeittttttttttttt
>>541601003Trump just announced a nuclear fueled space ship, and using it to go to Mars in 2028, and build an entire fleet of themhttps://x.com/FoxNews/status/2093383320000196951bit sus all this sudden nuclear talk
>>541598848>>541599169>US nuclear merchant vessels>with current absolute state US merchant marinerscomplex systems won't survive competence crisis. Especially with recent HS graduates taught in """common core""" math & no child left behind.look at various maritme academy & hawsepiper community! majority of the new cadets & trainees are in deck department because they get filtered by college math & physics of engineering department. And maritime academies are overwhelmingly White.even USN has shortage of sailors & officers in their Navy Nuclear School.those who already dabbled in nuclear, especially navy nuke will be filthy rich
>>541601626I don't know about 75% but carriers can go 30 knots (some day faster) and cargo ships go about 15 knots.
>>541601504Security will be an issue, but it's not impossible.
>>541601722If it's a world ending problem, then it's worth it.
>>541598411It would be faster because they operate cargo ships at a lower speed than their max capability due to fuel prices. It's been going on for awhile now.
>>541598309China is even more nuclear capable and will just end up dominating in this area as well.
>>54160282190% of their "research" is revers engineering other nations work to avoid patent rights.
>>541598584Correct, they're not even allowed to stop in our waters, as per signed treaties.The Russians usually do though, pretending they're having "technical issues".I'm guessing they are doing it to show they can without consequenses, and without "officially" breaking the treaty.We're amused by it, because it displays Russian subs as such unreliable pieces of shit that they can't even make it from Saint Petersburg to the North Sea without breaking down.
What about when it gets struck by the houthis
>>541598309What happens when Somali pirates start seizing these things?
>>541598534>glow in the darkIMAGINE being this scared of tiny little microscopic isotopes...WHAT A FAAAAAAG
>>541598309I'm sure nothing can go wrong in letting nuclear reactors from the party everybody hates go unnaccounted in the high seas.
>>541601998Unless you're a nuclear engineer you wouldn't want to go there. The captain doesn't know how to operate it anymore than he knows how to bake the bread on the ship. But it is "his" reactor.The captain regularly inspects all aspects of his ship and I doubt there is a Captain of nuclear powered wessel that doesn't have at least a rudimentary knowledge of the reactor. They aren't really that complicated anyway. Just a glorified steam turbine.To answer your question, yes, he does have access to the reactor along with a very small group of people. Otherwise it is a heavily restricted area.
>>541598309>thinking cheap ass shipping cartels will shell out for one of these thingsThe real nightmare is seeing what kind of cost-efficient captain they put in charge.
>>541604248Just build 1000 and it's decent
>>541601003It doesn't work and it's not legit anon.
>>541599760Anon we're already producing over 10,000 tons a year as a byproduct of other mining operations. Even if it doesn't become a primary source of fissile energy. We already have plenty we pull out of the ground to support this application.
>>541601659thisThe amount of metals and plastics needed to battery power everything will require a 4X increase in mining globally. We are going to rape the earth to "save" it. The execs at the mining company I work at are giddy about "green energy".
>>541601722>pirates will now have access to a floating nuke?Looks like letters of marque are back on the menu!
>>541598309>designed by a.i. dependent D.E.I. hires>built by beaners and niggers>registered to Panama or Liberia >crewed by mish mash of shitskins with criminal records and making poverty-tier wages>nothing made in America that would require getting shipped outWhat could go wrong?
>>541598309Decommissioning those ships is going to cost an absolute fortune.
>>541603939>Somali pirates start seizing these thingsNuclear powered pirate ships are gonna be fuckin kino
>>541598309Just fucking imagine a Captain Phillips scenario with a civilian floating nuke...
>>541598309That's nice. But they're presenting it in the old school vapor ware style with CGI (now AI) generated vids, makeing it look like they're already building it.So, maybe not get your hopes up too high?Ship "promises" from those people have previously turned up absolutely nothing.
>>541604549Just sink them off the coast of NZ, no one can stop you
>>541598309US can't build ships as it currently stands and the people who build them are retiring with no one replacing them, Australia got scammed for billions buying US nuclear submarines that will never arrive
>>541601371Yeah and it only cost radiating the ocean and collapsing the entire biosphere. But Jews made money!!!
>>541604347>just build 1000 nuclear reactors bro
>>541604721yeah
>>541602121Maybe trump is trying to bring down the alien overlords
>>541598411Shut the fuck up laplander
>>541604230Interdasting. How much access does the average nigger cleaning the shitters have to the ship?
>>541602121He obviously bought nuclear related stocks, Trump made over 1000 stock trades in June alone often times buying stocks before mentioning them or announcing a policy that impacts them, sometimes even buying and selling the same stocks just days apart
>>541603939Same thing that happened last time they seized a cargo ship. They died.
>>541601081That's not a big deal compare with the over-fishing these retarded are doing, instead of investing in industrial sea farming, they prefer to wipe out the planet eco-systems. They think it comes back or algo.
>>541598309>Captain Poopjeet of the US isotope crashes into another bridge, this time causing a reactor meltdown and a nuclear crisis in the middle of some random bay.Nice
>>541598309We'll see these when we see our tariff checks.
>>541605282AI will steer the ships using Quantum Gravimetric Navigation
>>541598309Now your ship needs to have nuclear engineers and nuclear safety experts on board at all times. Sure that won't cost anything.
>>541604896Very little. Ships like that are heavily compartmentalized. A little destroyer, sure plenty of cross work. A CV, no way in hell. Members of different sections can go an entire deployment and never even see each other.
>>541605500Economies of scale. With modular reactors coming online all over the place, that also helps.
>>541598309Build ships to more efficiently transport Chinese goods to the USA? To dominate them? Makes sense
>>541604399Not saying you're wrong anon, but Sodium-ion batteries are starting to become more common. And because of how shit those lithium pools were companies are going back and "cleaning them up: to harvest all of the other materials that were left behind. It's bad but it's not all bad.
>>541599890they have multiple engineering officers to brief them on technical details and the captain is well versed in nuclear power and propulsion.
>>541599012fopaux lmao. what colour is your skin? how many books without pictures have you read cover to cover in your whole life?
What crazy thing will do those African pirates when they get hold of one of those
>>541601919Poseidon Saar do not redeem
>>541598309>20 years without refueling>for a civilian shipWhile the other claims can be true this one is absolutely not. Carriers and subs get that run time from the fact that they run 90+% u235 enrichment, weapons grade. A civilian ship is going to be running at most 19.95%
>>541606683Seems like a pretty massive infrastructure investment if it still needs to refuel every year or so.
As an Australian, I welcome the prospect of humanity FINALLY embracing Nuclear energy.Now when are we building Nuke trucks and cars so we can stop worrying about a river on the other side of the planet for our country to operate?
>>541607132Hydrogen engines seem to be making leaps and bounds lately, so we might not have to give up the holy V8 after all.
>>541598693>thorium>moderate the potential environmental disaster if one is lost.If you're trying to be safe in water a molten salt reactor is way worse than a water cooled reactor with fuel already designed to be safe in water in the event of an accident
Suprised to see nobody has pointed it out that this is Trump's cucked way of threatening Iran not to bomb shipping in Hormuz. "If you drone a cargo ship, it'll be a nuclear disaster!"
>>541607185miss me with that metal embrittlement although it should go hard for getting the normie goycattle to replace their engines every few years
>>541607290I'm sure they'll have the metallurgy for all this in a hundred years when they need it
>>541598309Won't this need soldiers onboard? Imagine some Somali pirates getting their hands on a nuclear reactor.
>>541598309hopefully they go with the Fig VI design
>>541604230I was sure the captain still has to go through nuclear power school if he wants to command a nuclear powered ship
>>541600045>99% of Navy nuclear technitians are WhiteIt's closer to about 80%. Still much higher than the rest of the navy
>>541600767>completely fucked up the Japanese coastline It did no such thing retard
>>541605426>Another Indian will steer the ships using GPS Navigation
>thousands of floating chernobylsDidn't Revelation say every living thing in the oceans would die?
>>541598488Submarine fuel is about 20 times more enriched than commercial fuel.
>>541606950Probably only once every 5 years. The Russian icebreakers last 7 years
>>541598434>It's probably not a good idea.Two reasons:1) Nuclear stuff require constant monitoring and personnel who can actually understand what's going on inside and how to handle.This mean expensive white people on board. Let your regular brown boat rat handle it and you will get a meltdown during the first year.Unless they intend to just fucking seal it and be managed by an AI or something.2) Radioactive material is kinda the holy grail of terrorists (just to do dirty bombs, not actual nuke)This mean expensive security to keep a watch around the boat at all time.
>>541598411I wonder if they're including saving refuling times but the general upkeep would be the same
>>541607185There was an Austrlian guy that mixed hyrdogen and ammonia for safe transist but It's gone dark since then
>>541607132we still have to pay the Yanks $368 billion at least for 9 subs first, who's condition was "Brand new' to now 'slightly used". We should be a massive drone country
>>541608934Military security, regular mercenaries will take bribes easily
>>541598309thats a fantastic idea for drone targets.
>>541598488Virginia Class subs have a reactor designed to last the entire service life of the vessel, 33 years no refueling.
>>541598584This
