Why do you oppose democracy and liberalism when there isn't a better alternative out there?>FascismNever lasted beyond a leader. Once they die or lose their work gets undone.>Communism/SocialismEnd up cannibalizing eachother over retyarded stuff, too dangerous to even count yourself as a member. Anti-science when it comes to genetics, biology and failed economic policies.>[insert religion] theocracy Clergy becomes corrupt and the leaders are hypocrites. Based on retarded beliefs (usually jewish origin). >Anarcho-etcMeme politics and not serious.
>>541611078you do realize that democracy is an abnormality of modernity?its mostly a proxy for the power of the american empire
>>541611136>for the power of the american empire...which means jewish power in case you didn't get it
aislop threadbtw ai is getting too good nowthe only way to tell usually is the girls just look too good
>>541611136Explain? Its a European system and if America were to leave Europe they would still be democracies
>>541611078Is she not wearing pants
>>541611078Democracy and liberalism always turns into oligarchy, and eventually anarchy. This was written in a book 2500 years ago by a man named Aristotle, who basically invented most natural sciences by himself by thinking a lot. His book on politics is literally named "Politics", and that's the book I'm talking about.
Monarchy if the family actually gives a fuck about their own nation and doesn't just want a bigger piece of the pie.
>>541611078This is an AI video. The original is two blonde chicks.I fucking hate this place.
>>541611078>democracy and liberalismYou know you can have a democratic system without being a liberal faggot, right? Y'know, like America up until women were given equal rights.
Systems are subject to entropy, as are all things. A system can begin virtuous and prosperous but degrade over time. Nothing lasts forever. Also, different systems work differently in different places for different peoples. There's no single correct system for every one and every land.You're asking the wrong question. You should be asking what our systems lacks now that it should have or needs to happen to be healthy. And the answer is a ruling elite that feels connected to and actually cares about their own people.
who else expected two black cocks?
>>541611200Yes, its origins are European, but it was still very rare even in its birth place of Greece, where it never really ended up too well for the people who practiced it, the Roman Republic collapsed into an Imperial system and generally after that most of Europe had constitutional monarchy up until the French Revolution which itself was a disasterTruly, it was the American Revolution that created an actually powerful true democracy that succeeded in destroying its main adversaries/competitors, being the British Empire, German Empire, Nazi Germany and the USSR Now its a struggle between China, Russia and AmericaOnly one of which is a true democracyWe see the prevalence of democracy in places where the American Empire was victorious, which seems ubiquitous because of how grand their victory truly was
>>541611260Is it actually AI. Huow can you tell
>>541611185>>541611260ok how come ai celebrity porn still isnt this good
>>541611420:(
>>541611078Long live Feudalism!>Live off the land>Be protected by your lord and by THE LORD>Knights do the fighting, sworn to protect the peasants>LOW TAXES>NO BUREAUCRACY
>>541611403Roman Republic was way better than the Empire and most people believe that Rome's peak was the battle of Zama (middle republic). If you read Roman history, the early to middle republic's institutions were robust and dictators would willingly give up power.
>>541611185>>541611260i think you guys got the wrong site.
>>541611285I agree that our ruling elite are not doing the best job but a lot of populists are calling for socialism or fascism which is worse than our current system
>>541611238Ok then what's the best system then?
>>541611078The best system simply depends on its context. Democracy would not have worked in Europe in the 1400s. They had monarchies and feudalism and theocracies because that's what was required. It's incorrect to assume those systems failed. They worked as needed for their time and place in history, and then new conditions emerged that allowed for or required new systems of governance. Democracy is a pretty good system. It's going to struggle as people become more retarded. Early democracy restricted voting rights to an extremely limited population to prevent any retard issues. I don't think people would accept returning to that though. They'd rather overthrow the government and do away with democracy completely rather than limit the right to vote.
>>541611588They're desperate for change because the ruling elite have blatant hatred and contempt for them. They are actively trying to destroy their own native populations expecting to rule as kings over a teeming mass of foreigners. By Lockian principles, the most Liberal we can go, revolution is justified.
>>541611260>just noticed the id
>>541611078Made me lol.
>>541611665Pretty sure trump stopped most of the immigrants. People should just vote in anti immigrant politicians.
>>541611420He saw the original 5x
OP didn't list monarchy on purpose, because he knows it is the most stable, corruption-resistent and durable form of governance in history. Look how long the jews took to break down the European monarchies even though for 99% of the time the monarchs didn't even have a clue that the jews were conspiring to destroy us all. Esentially the Jews got lucky waiting or millenia to find the most soft-minded buffoons in the line of succession and then brainwashing them, like Louis XVI, Wilhelm II or Czar Nicholas. With minor tweaks, we can reinstitute monarchy and ensure lasting order for at least another 1000 years, until the memory of the jew and its terror is so distant that people get bored of the stories and may fall prey to their seduction again.
>>541611760Like explaining colours to a blind guy.
>>541611489This is mostly a modern cope really, if you look at their actual territory, it peaked during the empire
>>541611794Interesting. If monarchy were to be reinstated in Germany, would that be the Hohenzollern or another line?
>>541611794OP here, I just forgot about monarchy because its kind of a dead system. They fell apart because of the growth of the bourgeoisie due to technological innovation. Monarchs were often ruling over places they weren't even from and were highly disconnected from the people.
>>541611744They have been. More importantly, the people were never asked if they wanted tons of immigrants in the first place. And, until now, every time they voted for the guy promising to reduce immigration, they got rugpulled, and the immigration continued. Bevan immigration is about benefiting the true stakeholders of society, large commercial entities. This is genuinely the problem with democracy - it's built on lies, it's just smoke and mirrors. The people do not rule. They can vote for obe of a handful of empty suits who are beholden to the powerful interests of their society, not the masses. This obscures power, to the point where we don't even really know who is in charge and who leads us. Trump went to war on the advice of Kushner and Lutnik. They're wealthy and powerful, but it's unlikely they are only in it for themselves. So who do they serve? Israel? Netanyahu? Another politician, subject to the same forces. Who does he serve? How many layers do we need to peel back before we know who our masters are? No wonder they have nothing but contempt for us, they veil themselves in layers of secrecy to exercise their power.
>>541611847They were overextended and there was massive instability due to retarded emperors after Augustus. See: Year of the four emperors, crisis of the third century
>>541611078how dis make you feel white boy
>>541611078There are no actual democracies currently in existence. There is only (((democracy)))
>>541611623He gave three options.1. Polity. Basically, a city-state managed as a republic. The problem is it has a tendency to turn into democracy if you allow immigration.2. Aristocracy. You don't allow any immigration, or indeed any social ladder changes. You're born into a class, and you stay there, with exceptions only granted for the most talented people.3. Absolute theocratic dictatorship, in which a powerful leader creates a cult of the state itself. This shouldn't be a hereditary role, but instead it's like being both the head of the church and the supreme commander of the military at the same time.
>>541612066I mean I agree, but that doesnt mean that their peak wasnt during the EmpireThere were just a lot of retarded emperors that mismanaged the empire until the schism and ultimate collapse
It's all a farce either way, I guess I just enjoy being emotionally entertained so I take the most brutal position politically which is just being a normal guy opposed to some kind of retarded goy slave.Being a slave is just not interesting to me.
>>541612018Trump ran as a massive zionist and was one in 2017 too. I don't think there's any secret that he supports Netanyahu and Israel. Kushner is obviously a massive zionist and is using his position to secure business deals. He also wants to get credit for establishing his new vision for the middle east (Abraham accords). I did not support Trump in 2024 because of what we saw in 2017
>>541611078do they even exist?
>>541612116I just holistically evaluate it based on the health of the society (the senators fought alongside the plebians, consul elections were legitimate). It was also the point at which Rome had no enemies and was wealthy. I don't know the exact economic stats for the republic vs the empire but I'm pretty sure that after diocletian you had serfdom and it was a lot worse.
>>541611078BOOBA
>>541611455>>541611512DO YOU SEE??? This site is for niggers.https://files.catbox.moe/a0aq2x.mp4
>>541611078Funny how you omitted Monarchy, kike
>>541612553Is this one also AIslop? I cant tell
>>541612820Doesn't work and hasn't ever been great except for the aristocracy.
>>541612820Well by his definition of Fascism, it's kind of the same. Both the best options with their one fatal flaw.
>DemocracyVote for the exact same wolf in a different color jacket.Democracy is not normal, only 200 years ago if those in power abused it overly the plebs would gut them in the streets, but that hasn't happened in a long time and so the line is moved, crossed and moved again such that the life of a pleb is only to enrich satanic pedophiles through laboring away 80% of their life expectancy to a not even living wage and the rest is spend being groomed by propaganda as early as birth; boys being made to wear dresses by cultist parents, more genders than 95% accuracy XCOM misses, peddling that normalcy is somehow bad etc.At some point, if our history is even to be believed, governments decided to pursue policies that would only benefit their term at the expense of anyone that would follow in their wake of destruction.Appease the mob or be destroyed by it, except the mob is utterly domesticated and doesn't even know it.A combination of meritocracy and nationalism, but its not possible with freewill, someone will always want to control and take resources from another.
>>541612955simply no.>>541612897it does work and has been glorious
>>541611078Retarded AI.
>>541613100If you are a noble it's great otherwise no
>>541611078>Never lasted beyond a leader. Once they die or lose their work gets undone.And life is great when that leader is around. That's why I choose fascism, because it least there's something worthwhile behind it, and a good fascist leader always comes around eventually
>>541613246bvullshit. Tell me how your beloved democracy is better in this regard.
>>541611078>Never lasted beyond a leader. Once they die or lose their work gets undone.Name one (1) fascist regime where the leader actually died a natural death and wasn't just attacked militarily by kiked countries.
>>541611078Great. Women are invading are bunbun holes. Can men have literally anything to themselves?
>>541611078Real fascism has not been attempted yet.
>>541611078You will always lose to God, simple as.
>>541613374You have a say in the govt even if you are a pleb and there is social mobility. In a monarchy only aristocrats born into nobility can rule. That means retarded heirs will appear and raise armies to fight eachother over titles and useless shit that doesnt matter to the regular pleb.
>>541613375If you count Franco and Salazar but they arent "true" fascists but people often call them fascists
>>541612843No, it's not AI you faggot ass jeet, fucking kill yourself.
>>541611078>democracy and liberalismthe two have been spending the better part of the last century in opposition to one anotherI don't oppose democracy, but liberalism amounts to letting rich people override democracy when the public votes the "wrong" way, so I'd rather extend democracy to the economic sphere as well.
>>541611260Hi moot
>>541614195Your version is uglier though
>>541614259Socialism doesn't work but higher taxes on the ultra rich is compatible with liberalism.
>>541613909>You have a say in the govt even if you are a pleb and there is social mobilityThat's just incorrect. You are really attackign a strawman. I'm not discussing anything with midwit.
>>541614935>pole doesn't want to work hard to move up in lifengmi
>>541614491>Socialism doesn't work but higher taxes on the ultra rich is compatible with liberalism.No it isn't. Taxation is fundamentally incompatible with property rights.
>>541615194Damn. I guess we either have to give up all our property rights, or the entire military. Tough call.
>>541615501The latter. Insurance companies can handle national defense more effectively.
>>541611185>btw ai is getting too good nowthis, i think they're using youtube to train it!
>>541615659Yeah, statefarm's missiles are legendary
>>541611078Democracy fails because people just realise they can vote for free shit from the national treasury. Pensioners are the worst offenders in modern day democracies, and the ratio of pensioners to workers is only increasing, so good luck resolving that in a democratic system.
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>>541615793>the state currently forbids entry into this market, therefore if the state were abolished the market would go unserved.Let me guess, you think that if the state were abolished no roads would be built, people would just sit there going "damn it, I wish somebody would come along and tax us".
>>541615820>Democracy fails because people just realise they can vote for free shit from the national treasury.That's part of it, but by no means the only reason democracy is an abomination against morality and liberty.
>>541611078Absolute monarchy.
>>541615847Company towns have a bad track record is all I'm saying.
>>541615927>Company towns have a bad track record is all I'm saying.They have an excellent track record and everything you've heard about them is a lie. People desperately wanted to get a job in a company town because the standard of living in company towns was so much higher than the rest of the country.
>>541611282>liberal faggotLiberalism have nothing to do with any of that. It tells how much of cucks you are, that you allowed your greatest achievement to be stolen by radical left.
>>541615894OK but what if your monarch is totally into goofing to AI generated porn?
>>541612553>>541611078poor bunnies those holes touched thingsand by holes I mean the ones in the wall
>>541615963Ahahahahaha. Holy shit. Funniest thing Ive read all night
>>541611810audiophiles and wine connoisseurs say the same thing even though the former have hearing range up to 13kHz, cause they're old and latter can't tell a market wine from 100 years old wine, when the labels are swapped.and now you have purists claiming AI when it's not. Not saying that the vids in this thread aren't' AI. I"m just saying in some causes it already gets to close to tell apart and you're claiming you've got some super senses that allow you to do so, in every case
>>541615983Then I train to become royal prompt master for him.
>>541615983>OK but what if your monarch is totally into goofing to AI generated porn?The chad brother/uncle/cousin usupers the throne.
>>541616044You had government employed parental surrogates tell you that the government is wonderful for the first couple decades of your life, of course you think it's absurd that the government might not be telling the truth. The reality though is very different from what you were we were all taught in elementary school.>>541615983>In any case, however, even if the accident of birth and his>upbringing could not preclude that a prince might be bad and danger->ous, at the same time the accident of a noble birth and a princely educa->tion also did not preclude that he might be a harmless dilettante or even>a good and moral person. In contrast, the selection of government rulers>by means of popular elections makes it practically impossible that any>good or harmless person could ever rise to the top. Prime ministers and>presidents are selected for their proven efficiency as morally uninhibi->ted demagogues. Thus, democracy virtually assures that only bad and>dangerous men will ever rise to the top of government
>>541611078There is only on form of government in actuality, that expresses itself in one way, which masquerades as all the others.That is anarchy at the base and oligarchy as it’s sole expression. Everything else is an illusion: it’s all oligarchy stemming from underlying anarchy. The less safe being an oligarch is, the nicer the relative conditions are for the people.The solution is less safe oligarchs, but it may already be too late
>>541611078>Fascism>Never lasted beyond a leader. Once they die or lose their work gets undone.Honestly this is completely true. But don’t forget that all fascist states were basically bullied by capitalism surrounding them.
>>541611420>negro buttocks on ginger women America is truly cursed
>>541611078> >Fascism> Never lasted beyond a leader. Once they die or lose their work gets undone.> > >Communism/Socialism> End up cannibalizing eachother over retyarded stuff, too dangerous to even count yourself as a member. Anti-science when it comes to genetics, biology and failed economic policies.> > >[insert religion] theocracy > Clergy becomes corrupt and the leaders are hypocrites. Based on retarded beliefs (usually jewish origin).> > >Anarcho-etc> Meme politics and not serious.Because le democracy is all of the above combined. All of the worst parts together. Only a jew would like such a system.
whatever. Still voting socialist from here on out.
>>541616333>Honestly this is completely true.The DPRK is basically a neo-strasserite monarchy. They're currently on their third leader.
>>541616338Hi Karen
>>541614491>Socialism doesn't workyes it does, but early attempts to implement it were seriously flawed. No one was gonna successfully plan an economy before computers, big data makes it way more practical these days.>higher taxes on the ultra rich is compatible with liberalismempirically, it's not, because the ultra rich buy up the political system and liberalism destroys the mechanisms which prevent them from doing so
There's always the divine right of kings
>>541611078>>541612553With piglets it would have been better
>>541611078the big bunny face
>>541611078The renewal of systems requires territorial breakdown and coagulation, expansion and contraction, and localized experimentation without trying to make every theory a universal dogma.All systems fail because nobody (Chinese aside, with the designated high-tech zones) effectively impose a form of controlled autonomy to given areas. The systems employing the Federation model or a bland separation into regions eventually reach a cultural and political homeostasis, and start to stagnate while being obsessed with preventing any localized radical divergence.Systems (failed or successful) are tools, therefore not an inherent problem. The inability to scientifically employ them at the local and contained level where it is required, is.
>>541616207You say that, but you havent really addressed the part where striking workers have been bombed and machine gunned, because they were hurting profits
I am voting with my dick
>>541611847>le big territory means better hurr durrAside from the fact that almost 50% of the territory claimed by the Roman Empire was only “theirs” for like a few years or an effectively lawless wasteland that didn’t give two fucks about Roman authority, this is an astoundingly retarded argument.
>>541611078There is a better way. Censused democracy with weighted vote which is based on education, taxes paid, occupation, age, number of children and of course knowledge approved by taking contry-wide test.And you still can keep anonymity with it.Allowing idiots to vote and have the same weight as educated people's vote is exactly what made West fall.All your problems from lack of housing to lack of girlfriend boils down to the fact that two homeless bums have more voting power than engineer without whom your country will fall apart.
>>541611847The US was significantly better when it possessed fewer territories.
It doesn't really matter what your political ideology is. Even if we take communists and libertarians, which are on the opposite sides of the spectrum, you end up in the same place if your movement is succesful. Libertarians live in likeminded enclaves, commies live in communes. I think the problem is that we're apes who just discovered language. Everything is a competency hustle where you get a random faggot yapping his mouth off with no substance. When we need an eggsalad we get a wordsalad.
I choose politocracy. When not people rule, but politics. When you vote, you don't vote for a candidate, you vote for a policy. "Do X, ban Y, invest in Z".
>>541611078>>541612553Why are there bunnies in a gloryhole? Free them you monsters
>>541615991Kek
>>541611260i have never heard about you in my entire life
National Socialism will be a world wide phenomenom, I'm sorry you had to hear it from me.
>>541614427And you are brown forever.
>>541617373I'm American, you hear about me every day because you are obsessed with people with culture. All you have to look forward to are rape gangs for your women.
>>541617494Do you think that is true?
>>541611420How can i get a gf like this to marry and impregnate?
>>541618048Just hit her over the head with a club, and drag her back to your cave
>>541611078We don't have democracy, this is the environment in which democracy functions..>Greek communitarianism is a historical and political tradition. It emphasizes the self-reliant organization of society through local communities, assemblies, and collective decisions. It is a key element of Greek political thought, connecting ancient direct democracy with the self-government of modern times. It begins with the city-states and Athenian democracy with the participation of citizens in decision-making. Communities function as cells of survival, self-government, justice, and collective taxation. >In this context, an individual's character and goals are shaped by family, culture, and local groups. Every individual right is accompanied by a corresponding duty to support the community. Communitarianism strongly embraces decentralization, viewing the centralized bureaucratic state with deep skepticism because it tends to turn citizens into passive consumers and producers, eroding local social bonds and the nature of human relationships. Instead, state power is limited to creating space, protecting, and empowering local communities.>This tradition often clashes with the centralized Western-style state.
>>541611078Technocratic humanism with a resource based economy. Make things to last not break. Make voting actually real. I think having an AI actually keep politicians accountable is a grand idea.
>>541611078Monarchy is the best, and the most natural form of governance.
>>541611390Very american of you
>>541611078you say those systems are bad but you aren't saying how democracy is any better what's good about liberal democracy anyway?am i prosperous? no are my rights secure? nodoes it at least feel like my country's lead by people who like my kind of people and our culture? no
>>541611078Of course the bunnies are black, I'm so fucking tired. Kill all white women and nigger males.
>>541612553This is AI. The other one is the oroginal
>>541616594poopskin cope detected
