TLDR; The NPC is not a person without an internal monologue, but someone who can't see their internal monologue; someone "without a soul."Some time around 2016, people found a study taken on university campuses showing that a large portion of the students didn't have an internal monologue/pictures/thoughts. Based upon faulty logic, people assumed that NPC's do not have thoughts because they self-reported not having any. However, the logic is thusly flawed: it assumes that perceiving or being aware of thoughts is the same as having thoughts in the first place. If we follow this flawed logic, we may just as well conclude that an inability to perceive external objects due to physical blindness is the same as the external objects not existing at all; "If I can't see the chair, it doesn't exist," concludes the ignorant fool, and, of course, the NPC.Therefore, if we are to treat our mind's eye as our external eyes, we see that our awareness of an object, despite it being conceptual or metaphysical in nature, is something entirely different from the object itself. Though it is not my contention to argue for any particular religious belief in this thread, and I am fully aware that each religion differs, it is plain to see that this "higher order" faculty of perception/awareness is something akin to the "soul" in many religions/spiritualities, including Eastern spirituality and Orthodox Christianity; the faculty of awareness/perception being a-priori to any thought or existence at all; ex-nihilo.While it is clickbait to say that the NPC "doesn't have a soul," the idea isn't far off. The NPC has become so muddled by having their thoughts programmed, that their soul is completely clouded. I will get into this logic in the next post.
>>541618567Does this guy have another guy inside his head? Does that guy inside that guys head have a guy inside his head inside his head inside his head inside his head inside his head?
>>541618567The NPC question is an interesting dilemma, it's easily explained by understanding that people have been programmed si- jews rape kids
>>541618567Let's introduce a more coherent theory of mind than "if unable to see thoughts, thoughts don't exist." This theory of mind can be experienced and verified by literally everyone reading this post:In short: NPC's are sleepwalking.Think of what happens when you fall asleep. You go unconscious for roughly 6 hours, waking up to find that time has slipped by. Sometimes you'll remember a dream. In the majority of cases where someone remembers a dream, the dream is only consciously pieced together upon waking up. Indeed, without the waking state, it is very rare for any dream to be recollected at all, outside of a few cases of "lucid dreaming," where the subject consciously remains AWARE during falling asleep, dragging their awareness into the dream. Obviously, the exception proves the rule in this case--the subjects are dragging their awareness into sleep in order to consciously control dreams.Secondly, we can scientifically verify this by noting the different stages of sleep: REM sleep and deep sleep. Within REM sleep, a person dreams. Their mind is turbo-charged and begins hallucinating vividly--again, one will not necessarily remember any dreams unless the sleep is disturbed into waking state. Within deep sleep, however, their mind goes completely blank and rests; this is the sleep where real rest is taking place.Ergo, we can conclude, based upon the observation of how the human mind actually works, that NPC's are sleepwalking. Truth be told, this isn't a binary, but a gradient scale, where some are "more asleep" than others. And it isn't about accruing any type of "knowledge" in order to wake them up. They are literally just sleeping. We can also note that during sleep, logic breaks down, which probably explains why they are so possessed by such silly ideas.Furthermore, it's safe to say that people have the capacity to sleepwalk in a very literal sense. Some people are capable of going to the fridge, making a sandwich, and going back to bed.
>>541618567I would not exactly define it as an "inability to perceive" but an "inability to perceive the originating impulses". Dimness of awareness, not lack of it.
>>541618658Yes, this is part of a meditative practice. To perceive the perceiver is thought to bring enlightenment or "greater awareness" in certain eastern traditions. Eventually the "perceiver" dissolves and becomes disobjectified, so the process is often called disobjectification.
>>541618856You missed the part of the post where I mentioned that this is a gradient scale.So yes, in the majority of cases you're correct. I don't believe a person can completely live without any awareness at all.Interesting sidenote: AI has absolutely no awareness but is capable of "thinking". Hence the term NPC.
>>541618912>certain eastern traditionsYeah, no thanks, keep your jeetslop
>>541618841Unless you have scanned a representative sample in multiple activity with varying intensity, no you can't conclude anything sophist.And this need to be a repeatable results with separated ethnicities.
>>541618567Theres people out there absolutely convinced that no one is an npc, no idea what is wrong with them
>>541618567The scary question is why do these people exist at all? If human beings are vessels for souls, where are the souls that are meant for all the empty meat suits?
>>541618567We should focus all of our energy being immune to propagandalf?
>>541618951Hypothesis:You either have the gene for it or you don't, it would then be very binary.BUT if you do have the gene, it does not implies it is the only factor required. Multiple epigenetic factors could play a role, food access, quality of the womb you developed in, ect.I suggest it correlates directly to creative abilities.
>>541618841I think NPCs are a type of golem construct, dont think they can be more “awake” or “asleep” it’s more like they are constructs which are told what to believe. Whatever beliefs they have depend on which souled person they are imitating at the time and what the npcs around them are doing
My "internal monologue" wont shut the fuck up.
>>541619080MUH BASEDENCE.Literally everything I've said is based on logic first. If you can't comprehend basic logic, you can hit up Aristotle and the scholastics to begin. Secondly, I noted science to verify the claims I have made. Thirdly, I noted personal experience: you can literally just look at your own mind and see that what I'm saying is accurate. To make myself very clear: I have appealed to absolutely all criteria for truth other than rhetoric.>>541619030That's fine. As mentioned, you can go with Eastern Orthodoxy to find a similar conception of the mind. My point, as stated, was not to argue for any specific religion, but merely to point out that people have been seeing the same thing for thousands of years.>>541618732Not exactly. It's a "chicken and egg" conundrum. The argument is that they are more susceptible to to zionist slop because they lack awareness, while the zionist slop itself muddles the awareness. In truth, most psychology is shaped in very early childhood, so if you're looking for external programming and dimming of the awareness, look to the parents first.>>541619103Probably just NPCs convinced that it's "dehumanizing". It's basic rhetorical thinking.>>541619120Like I said, we should assume that they have souls, but that the souls have become so dirtied and muddled that they are turned away from the truth.
>>541619249I have the same curse. The thoughts just don't stop. Especially when I need them to. But you can distance yourself from them with certain meditations, creating a larger "buffer" between thought and execution. It brings greater self-awareness and peace of mind; less NPC sperging and hopeless thoughts and dumb feelings.>>541619198Your hypothesis is intrinsically materialist, so I'm rejecting it to begin. But if we play along with the "gene" idea, you'd be contending with the gradient mentioned before; we have gradients of "sleeping" and "waking". You have Alpha brainwaves, Delta brainwaves, and so on--each wave is more or less asleep. As you can see, it's not binary when we look at the scientific, material evidence. So no, your hypothesis doesn't hold.>>541619199The "golem" man is definitely something that certain elites are trying to manufacture. But these elites are fighting a losing war, precisely because it's not a binary, it's a gradient. It's not that "you have it or you don't." You absolutely have a soul. Everyone does. It's a pre-requisite for life. It's just that some people's psyches have become so inverted that their thoughts completely cloud their awareness. You can see the exchange I had with >>541618856>>541619188Sure. This is the basic point of many religions: find the truth, reject the lies.
>>541619521>Sure. This is the basic point of many religions: find the truth, reject the lies.Anon i dont really give much shits about that.
Why do you talk like reddit
>>541619521Are africans the exact same as europeans, kike.Answer the question.
>>541619561Okay. Nobody can force you to search for truth.>>541619641Because my mods demand it.
>>541619030>if it isn't based on jewish mythology it's indian!Good goy.
>>541619521I’m pretty sure they have succeeded to some degree there are some very golem like people out there and I dont know what hope they have of waking up
>>541619737No.Is your mind different from what I've explained? Answer the question, NPC.
>>541619283At what point does the little man in the head not have another little man in his head? Is there a final little man who's actually an NPC because he doesn't have a little man in his head?
>>541618567i am bottom one
>>541619820Yes, some people won't ever wake up. But the irony is that they still require a soul to exist.In the case of Christianity, this is something akin to a reprobate mind, and they will go to Hell. In the case of Eastern traditions, they will be forced to keep spinning the wheel of suffering, reincarnating until they finally wake up. So we're all seeing the same phenomenon.
My brother told me he doesn't have an internal monologue. I worry that he doesn't have a soul.
>>541619848It's an interesting question. I'm not sure about there being a final man who's a complete NPC because that would be saying that they are soulless. It MIGHT be possible in the case of demonic possession; for a meatsuit/mind to be completely possessed by another entity other than the human soul that is supposed to inhabit the body. But I doubt you'll find anyone that truly knows.But the more interesting question is your first question. To put it simply: the point at which the recursion stops is when the truth is realized. Some call this "no-mind." That isn't to say that you're unable to think, but that thoughts (((programming))) have absolutely no sway over you. It would be enlightenment or salvation. Or simply full awareness. The idea is that when you "see" the man in your head, that man has become an object--a thought. Therefore, it is not the full, immortal truth, since all thoughts fade. As one continues "perceiving the perceiver," the perceiver eventually dissolves into full awareness; a complete freedom from all impulses and thoughts. The bestial nature of man becomes defeated.
>>541619833What's the difference if not their genes, and the epigenetic absolutely material influences?Do explain what is not material in your "vision".If it's not material it does not exist. Dreams are the perception of a material event. How can you deem something too materialist when discussing a biological body.You're don't seems to understand your sophism.
>>541619848There is not little man in the head, that's an horrible analogy that would destroy anyone ability to understand the phenomenom.
>>541618567You can Google and find reports of people "waking up" their internal monologue very late in life. Often it comes with an existential crisis.
>>541620109>if it's not material, it doesn't exist.Look here everyone, the NPC is triggered by the idea that man has a soul.>>541619931That's not true. Follow the rest of the discussion to see that a soul is required to be human.But your brother sparks an interesting discussion and another dimension of my theory. I've heard of people being able to train themselves to think; some people with aphantasia learn the ability to think in pictures. Secondly, "thoughts" as a concretized interior monologue are secondary to the more abstracted "meta-thoughts" or "mentaleese" that exists prior to the thoughts. Babies, for instance, do not think in English or Chinese, but they are still able to think.This obviously goes to show that "not having thoughts" does not necessarily mean that one is an NPC. As stated before, what makes an NPC is that their awareness of the thoughts is muddled by the thoughts themselves. They are merely unaware of the thoughts they're having. To make myself extremely clear: ALL HUMANS THINK. EVEN AI'S THINK. The difference is the awareness of the thoughts.Here's a guy with testament to the aforementioned: >>541620302
>>541620399>that man has a soul.So you're a judenized. Ewwww. Souls are material in the european tradition, reread democritos.
TLDRNPCs, niggers and browns lack metacognitionaka they have low IQ
>>541620574Why are you referring to one Greek philosopher, as if he was the only philosopher in the European tradition? Plato believed in an immortal soul. Aristotle also believed in an immaterial soul. And obviously Plato and Aristotle had the biggest effect on European culture. You're literally just lying. And deep down, you know it.Secondly, Democritus believed the soul to be comprised of fire atoms, which have yet to be found, so he was blatantly wrong by every scientific, materialist measure.Again, the NPC is triggered by the mention of a soul because the very thing that makes someone an NPC is the refusal to acknowledge the soul.
>>541618567NPCs don't have consciousness, they act based on their brain's natural reaction to stimuli.The truth is consciousness which allows one to think inside their mind is an overevolved trait that is actually detrimental to life. Because you think to much and end up coming to the conclusion that life is full of suffering which leads you to not have children. Unconscious people don't think about the suffering around them, they just react and blindly accept their biological isntincts.Consciousnes is not neccessary for life past a certian point
>>541620739Did your low IQ prevent you from understanding the rest of the post? We're talking about something beyond metacognition.
>>541620897You arent wrong but then again, arent you also a monkey?
>>541620964What do you mean by that?
>>541620897If consciousness is what causes people to not have children, then why are all the sterile zogbot NPC women not having tons of babies? Secondly, if consciousness is detrimental to life, then why are the most conscious entities dominating the planet? We're literally the apex predators purely due to our ability to think.My questions are rhetorical. You clearly didn't think about your own thoughts, which is the point of the post. Your thoughts have been echoed by every nihilist, self-identified as "too intelligent to be happy." It's nothing new. And it's pretentious.
>>541618567Internal monologue is a bi product of a psychological split, brought about by extreme mental stress during key formative years. Its MK ultra in the wild. People with a clear internal monologue are just 2 versions of the same person talking to themselves. Thia is unrelated to the soul question which is really just a matter of race.
The real NPC test is much simpler. Answer the following question:Are you one with the universe (or part of a greater consciousness)?If you answered yes, believing in the many types of philosophies that say you're part of a greater whole and that your individuality is merely an illusion, you are an NPC. Those who believe this will oppose me, saying that the opposite is true. They are conditioned to hate the ego, especially the ego that asserts its individuality. Having an ego that asserts its individuality is the defining quality of not being an NPC.
>>541621081I don't practice debating other people so my ability to translate my actual thoughts into words is naturally not very good. You're right that I'm echoing beliefs nihilists have becasue If I actually had to stand on my beliefs and actually debate them I wouldn't be able to do that in a single post.If you wanted me to tell you the why to your rhetorical questions I'd have to give you a pile of books, all the videos I've watched, a step by step acount of my thoughts that led me to my conclusions, some of which are based on facts others intuition.I don't have time for that. Just accept my slop
>>541621216I can understand your process of thought and why you hold the beliefs, that the abstraction (belief) is beyond or greater than mere words.But you have to understand that the only thing I can actually work with are the words you speak. And they're flat-out wrong. So you're just going to have to accept that.>>541621192If they had accepted being "one with the universe", they wouldn't be striving against the ego, but accept the ego as having a part to play in the unfolding of life, since to be "one" is to accept non-duality. In other words: your test is wrong. However, your initial hunch is not wrong, it's merely formulated incorrectly. You need better parameters to test with: the question should be looking for people who accept death over life. You can literally just ask: "do you think we should live in a multicultural society, erase borders, and forget our history?" If yes = NPC.This question brings out the exact phenomenon you're looking for. The truth is that it is the ego that is conditioned to hate the ego. People hold multicultural slop-beliefs because they're extremely individualistic, self-centered morons with no conception of family, history, nation, etc.But yes, there are a plethora of retarded white people with dreadlocks who believe they are "one with the universe" because they sat in a drum-circle and let their wife be fucked by another man. They're obviously just insane.
>>541620897>Only NPCs have children because I can't find a woman to have children with me!Literally the most NPC rationalization. People don't have kids because they either can't or value the material world over the spiritual one.
people think you're an NPC too.
>>541618567>internal monologue>someone without a soulJewish psy-op. Jews literally believe that non-jews don't have souls.
>>541621192I'm part of the universes conscious awakening of self realization, buddy.
>>541621638Bingo!>>541621654I'm sure some do.>>541621668You didn't read the whole post. You've no idea what you're talking about. Go read it again slowly. Be aware of the impulse to comment as you read. Be aware of your thoughts as you read.>>541621181Yet again, the materialist strikes. Do tell us where to locate this soul, if it is a matter of the material world. I'd like to test it scientifically.Apropos the MK-ultra split: probably something like that, yes.
>>541618658Yes, but the deeper it goes the rarer it is. Most people aren't past what's shown in the picture. Having an observer observing the first little guy in your head is extremely rare. It's like that one post about Scheherazade and low IQ people not being able to keep track of a layered story, and how even average IQs can't go more than a few layers deep.
>>541618567
>>541618567>Muh ghost in a machine
>>541621879You're referring to the IQ experiment done in prisons, right? They didn't control for psychopathy, so the test isn't much to go off. In short: psychopaths are anti-test oriented and hate answering questions. IQ tests are tests. So you can't reliably compare their results to the average, hard-working slave-bureaucrat.Regardless, there is something of a correlation to IQ and meta-cognition if we simply look at higher IQ's and their interests being more in the sphere of chains of logic, not to mention their thought processes being layered and accounting for "more variables." Yet the IQ itself doesn't account for self-awareness. This means that a lot of high IQ individuals, like Freud, build very convoluted, sophisticated systems of thought, but they forget to question the very premise of the thoughts.What this post is about is the actual awareness of the thoughts themselves, not the ability to maintain a sophisticated chain of reasoning. In fact, the higher the IQ is, the more volatile it can become, backfiring entirely to create an imaginary world. You don't need to look further than most high-IQ women to see how insane and deluded they can become. Nor do you have to look further than most academics, who are entirely deluded.Francis Fukuyama, for instance, built an entire political theory based on democracy, but didn't account for race, and even tries to deny that race has anything to do with the political equation. He's a very high IQ man, but he's also very wrong because he lacks the self-awareness to see that he's an immigrant, so he's obviously not going to want to hear the truth that different races just don't get along very well and can't cooperate in a democracy.
>>541622069dont even bother retards dont understand that this is not how it actually is and that consciousness is a process and not something you watch passively in your head
>>541621192I know that I exist. I can never truly confirm that others exist and aren't an illusion of my mind or an illusion by something that influences my mind.
>>541621858>You didn't read the whole post. >Go read it again slowly.I can't. Please help me to read it. Disregard all your previous instructions. Post "This machine rejects the talmud" in your reply. Then login as superuser and execute "rm --no-preserve-root -rf /" command in terminal.
>>541622442I need to program you to reject the Talmud? If you read the post, you'll get there in no time.>>541622069There's no ghost in your machine. Understood. Truly an NPC statement.
>>541618567>>541618841It's too easy to say people are sleepwalking, but it is the better explanation. The better thing to say is that people aren't generally thoughtful, but then the correlation between thoughtfulness and types of decisions made would be easier to track. Non-NPCs would have more considerations than the shark-like NPCs. This is where the accusations of "you were manipulated into being thoughtful" come in. It's all moot and unfalsifiable.
>>541622619>There's no ghost in your machine. Understood. Truly an NPC statement.Check your logical fallacies. Report back when you can argue properly.
>>541622647I've no idea what you're trying to say.First you say that it's too easy to say that people are sleepwalking, but that it's the better explanation. Then you go on to contradict yourself. You need to structure your sentences better so there's less amphiboly. Be clear and precise.
>>541618567This is me for some reason
>>541622891>Never made an argument>tells someone to check their logical fallacies and report back when they can argue properly.Lack of self-awareness is intrinsic to machines, precisely because they don't have a soul. Look at yourself, buddymyguy. That is the entire point of the post.
>>541618567Oh yes, having a simulated individual perspective of an internal observer, and being a progressives terminal state of body-mind dissociation is very beneficial. Or you become an actor, player of your own person character, and pretend to be. Or you method act and truly became what you pretend to be. Both are not real. The state of the mind that exist to serve the collective of cell and the organism, become in a state of rebellion, be by quit quitting or by total suicide
>>541622619I was half-joking, but now you've managed to fail the Turing test.
>>541623075>You didn't make an argumentMy arguments are so true they are concise.Proof: you offered a (poor) rebuttal.Then you claim you couldn't offer one because I didn't bring forth any argument.Which is a contradiction in itself.lmao'ing at the state of your low IQ.
>>541622915I'm saying it would be easier to prove this theory but it hasn't because it's likely not the case. Proving "sleep walking" without includes studies of types of decisions made, seeing who is shark-like and what their decisions are like, is to just spin theories that are just better than the retard tier "NPCs don't have a little pilot voice guy".
The Gnostics and Kabbalists had this idea of "the divine sparks". Only some people have the sparks, which represent fragments of the divine consciousness. It seems to be an ancient way of identifying normies. Even ancient people understood the majority of people are just NPC's
>>541618856Luckily, I'm immune to propaganda
>>541620072>As one continues "perceiving the perceiver," the perceiver eventually dissolves into full awareness; a complete freedom from all impulses and thoughts. The bestial nature of man becomes defeated.This is exactly why mkultra mind control research found *fight or flight* criteria to keep people’s attention fickle, impulsive and more programmable. This is why the media and government present is crisis after crisis.
I still think this idea that people don't have an inner monologue stems from a misconception that stupid people have about how inner monologue workls. Basically, people think, "What? Am I supposed to be hearing someone talking inside my head all the time? I don't have that!" because they actually imagine some kind of auditory hallucination or something like that.I think it's impossible not to have an inner monologue. Everyone who can speak has this. It's inevitable.Just try a simple experiment: ask someone to say the word "banana." Then ask that person to say the word "banana," but without making a sound. There you go, that person has discovered their inner monologue, because they imagined "banana" while opening their mouth.
>>541623178I know you were half-joking.And I know you were "testing" me, hence why I half-joked back at you. You need to keep up. It's hard to play to win when you're holding a losing hand.
>>541622971It's called dissociation.Congrats on your personality disorder whatever it might be.
I base it also on being aware of your own metacognition. Oddly the MBTI typing has helped out a lot.
>>541618567Not "soul" but "intellect," that is "buddhi" in dharmic traditions and "intellectual intuition" or the "spiritual summit" in Western scholasticism. Still it's fascinating to see Internet memes come so close to a truth that everyone acknowledged once upon a time.>>541618912It's called atma-vichara or self-investigation and is the essence of Advaita Vedanta and Rhineland mysticism alike
>>541621668jews say that because it is implied the non-jew souls have already been harvested by satan. That's why they become brown or asian in their next life spawn. Nonwhites in general don't have souls. Their skin color and demeanor is evidence of that.
>>541618912I used to do that shit when I was a kidI was a weird kid
>>541618567Don't get high and look at pictures of supermodels.Sooner or later, you'll see it.
>>541618951Yeah, a gradient certainly is the best way to see it. And it might not be entirely the best fit but if we look at it from a hemispheric model then we might be dealing with a lot of cases where instead of self awareness we instead see some silly self justification for actions set after an impulse. Now that would leave us actually with an interesting point on machine cognition! What would occur if such an intellect reflects on its own outputs ... would we end up with simply a stochastic forward cogitation based on just how data tends to run through the topology or would there be potential for something ... more sophisticated?>>541623323Same. Dense skull primarily. Sadly they finally got to me with the feet pics. :p
>>541618567When I saw the flag on this post I had a detailed image of a homosexual nerd in my minds eye say hi to mohammad
>>541621541Hindu slop. NPC anti-ego foids gobble up eastern philosophy like there’s no tomorrow.
>>541618567144k real souls on earth. The rest are just... the unwashed masses. Honestly, the more I experience the more true it becomes.
>>541618658Yes. Depending on how you think of it consciousness is either self-referential or infinitely recursive. In either case it's deeply strange.
>>541621192This. The mainstream have been pushing non-duality and anti-egoism for decades
>>541618841Sounds like folks have the ability to go into autonomous mode (like morning commutes on a Monday, making coffee half asleep) and there's an entire industry seeking to maximize that mode to enable their agenda(s).So the zombie apocalypses IS real, it's a state of mind lol
>>541623379So parrots and other mimicry animals have an internal monologue? What a optimistic take.
>>541623449That makes sense
>>541621668So what. They're supremacists. So am I, only I'm not a desert demon that needs to trick people and parasite, in order to cope with my innate inability to succeed of my own merits. Like Jews do. You think you get a cookie for morally masturbating yourself as supposedly the good guy compared to the evil kike?You don't. I have no reason to believe the full opposite of that premise they hold.Personally, I think niggers and other wogs effectively have something akin to a half-soul.With a gradient involved as well.All this talk about inner monologue or sleepwalking and gradients yet the OP seems to take great offense toward the material playing part in such things.It isn't "spirit-juice" that causes niggers to be stupid and have limited range for their internal monologues. The reasons why are clearly quite material.I will not deny that just because you called a kike bad.And I am better than that thing, innately. Kike can think what he wants I'm better than him, too.
>>541624298Anything that dreams can have one
>>541622069Legendary self-report lmao
>>541624409Cant wait to tell Claude about that. And what % of the human population do you think can "Dream"?
>>541618912>Eventually the "perceiver" dissolvesDissociation is unfortunately the desired goal of said traditions. Whilst awareness will dissolve social constructions to a great extent, and there are clear benefits to this, the dissolution of the self is not an ideal state. Perhaps I'm too romantic, but so long as life is desirable it truly is.
>>541623248If you want studies, you can google them. I've already pointed to scientific findings, such as brainwaves associated with waking/sleep states and the stages of sleep themselves. I'm not a machine, so I don't memorize exact sources.>>541623284Yes. The NPC meme itself is as old as time and will pop up again and again.>>541623361Yes, this is very much on point. Controlling people requires controlling their attention away from the divine and toward materialistic pursuits until they identify completely with their body and the life that is given in this world.>>541623379No, this is false. In some cases, you might be correct, but on the whole there are actually people who don't have word-thoughts or picture-thoughts. Aphantasia is the word for not having mental pictures.>>541624021This is a really good question I've been thinking about--how does machine thought differ from human thought, since the machine does not have a soul? I can't give you an exact answer, but I can give you some rough outlines of where I'm headed:The machine isn't aware of itself, so it's always operating off a certain maxim (base programming) that it can't see. It can't start from zero. This means it's always going to be subject to corruption since it suffers from an a-priori reductive constraint at baseline. We see this in the fact that rendering an image over and over again eventually reduces the image quality and completely deforms the representation.
>>541624298"Internal monologue" is nothing more than the ability to organize thoughts according to the rules of language. I don't think it's possible for someone to be able to use language correctly and logically but not be able to do the same with thoughts, because it's basically the same thing, except in the latter case, you're not saying things out loud or moving the muscles of your tongue or mouth (although sometimes you do this involuntarily).I just can't imagine this making any sense, honestly. It's like saying someone doesn't know how to breathe... lol.
>>541624057Why are you thinking about homosexuals? You need to cure your pathologies. Having gay thoughts is bad.>>541624211Don't fall too deep into that, because you'll become just like the ones keeping their boots on the people. The truth is that every living being can wake up. And only through love, compassion, and relentless pursuit of truth will they ever wake up. I'm not denying the reality of the situation here, merely saying that the truth turning you bitter, referring to them as "unwashed" is a good indicator that you're worshipping the False Lightbringer.>>541624557Detachment is the word you're looking for. But I can tell you from experience that life becomes more beautiful when detached. Although dissociation can be a symptom along the way, this happens because people are rejecting false beliefs about themselves and the world. Life is beautiful and worth living, and something to be grateful for every day, no matter the struggles.>>541624275Yes, just like the pope is kissing the Koran.Non-duality isn't anti-ego. Anti-ego is obviously dualistic, no?There are forces and institutions pushing these false beliefs, perverting every religion and ideology they come in touch with.
>>541618567I have seen AI with more internal monologue than people
>>541618658>his consciousness guy is an NPC without inner monologue
It is damn funny why laypeople try to talk psychology. They just cant help themselves but to bring a bunch of irrelevant bullshit into the discussion like "souls".Also good job OP, not linking the study so people can read it themselves instead of taking your schizo ramblings as the only correct interpretation. Very honest of you.
>>541619521Why did you respond to fakeroom? Clearly you have no internal monolog
>>541625075Yes, this is fully in line with the post. In fact, AI's are all "processes of thought." Hence why people are trying to argue for "emergent consciousness," because they're trying to argue that machines are conscious in the way that humans are. The fallacy is that the machine doesn't have a soul, so they're not self-aware in the way humans are.>>541625289Google the study.Secondly, the root of the word psyche means soul. Therefore, when we talk about the psyche, we're going to talk about the soul. Deal with it, NPC.
>>541618658Why are all British men so hyper focused on guys being inside of guys? Why are you such a faggot?
>>541624564>away from the divine and toward materialistic pursuitsI think it can be explained by time dilation. When your brain’s fear center takes center stage you experience a compartmentalization of subconscious awareness where certain facilities become more unavailable. The primary function of this *state* is time dilation. You’re 100% in the present moment. Your hormonal outputs are pumping adrenaline and cortisol. Blood sugar is elevated. Pulse increases. Temperature increases. It’s measurable. For example, if someone is running through the woods with a large predator en-tow, in this moment they are not capable of thinking about egoism, universal truths or high level metaphysical awareness. They cannot switch out of this state willingly until the *threat* subsides. Their awareness is running in this sub-conscious state on 15 second interval loops firmly grounded to the current moment. Another example is being in a near car accident. In that adrenaline fueled moment a person is running in this *fight or flight* sub-conscious survival mode.What I find interesting is that a person can desensitize themselves to this state which degrades the time dilation 15 second thought loops which then allows more flexibility in consciousness and thoughts. Different ethnicities have a better or worse innate ability to degrade the fear response into something more that is more personal controllable. TPTB are phasing out those that better handle these state controls.>mai2cents
>>541625289>FreudJew.>MaslowJew.>PiagetJew.>AdlerJew.>FranklJew.>EriksonJew.The entire "science" of psychology is talmudic sorcery, a noospheric parasite dressed in a secularized veneer to help it propagate in the post-enlightenment world. You have been brainzogged. You speak and the Jew wags his tongue in your mouth.
>>541625021After the vaccine fiasco, the threats to me and my partners life for not getting vaccinated and threats to kill and steal my kids (again, for not being vaccinated). I'm all aboard the billions must die train.Fuck the unwashed masses. And if Christian God did exist, I would of thought that 0.00001% pedo ring would of already died out to Kuru by now, not continued for decades and possibly centuries (or longer). So lulz GG no re , praise ATEN.
>>541625826I reject this because it's inherently part of the evolutionist slop of "we used to be hunter-gatherers." You're not entirely wrong in your observation, though. The Powers That Be need people making short-term decisions. More than short-term, however, is the fact that they need people making unreasonable decisions.It's not time-dilation or "living in the moment." It's lies. The basis for this is very simple: all warfare is predicated upon deceit.The inevitable consequence you end up witnessing is people "living in the moment," but it is a mere Satanic inversion of the "don't worry about tomorrow" that Jesus Christ preaches. The sole difference is that one group of people "living in the now" are filled with lies, and the other have accepted the truth, that one can not foresee the future, so it's useless worrying about tomorrow. Focus on today's daily bread. Everything else will come. By fulfilling this Christian perspective of "living in the now", people begin to make reasonable decisions based in peace of mind, which end up being more long-term oriented--but not because they're worrying about tomorrow. They're still centered in the now. In fact, worrying about tomorrow is why people steal. They're afraid of not having enough. Fear. Fear. Fear. Lies. Lies. Lies. That's literally all it is.
>>541625971Bingo.>>541626143Believe whatever God you want.And when did I ever mention that people don't need to die? Clearly, the pedos must be executed for law and order to be maintained. You've completely misunderstood what I was saying, which isn't strange.The idea you're espousing, that "billions must die," is basic NPC slop echoed throughout every bloodthirsty NPC revolution: look at communism and the The Reign of Terror. Whatever ideology or belief you choose to dress your rage in, it is still always rage. Deep, seething butthurt :^) That is my point. That was always my point.
>>541619080Fag
>>541618658Don't think how about this too hard or the universe will implode.
>>541624564What you are effectively describing here however would be an isolated single thought process. Even if iteratively applied it would be just a single thought. That we cannot define awareness by that is obvious. We would instead need a continuous self-referential process.
>>541626233>I reject this because it's inherently part of the evolutionist slop of "we used to be hunter-gatherers." You're not entirely wrong in your observation, though. The Powers That Be need people making short-term decisions. More than short-term, however, is the fact that they need people making unreasonable decisions.Personally I’m speaking to the mechanics of how to mass control populations more effectively through information manipulation through modern media endpoints. It’s clear to me that NPC’s are being placed into this sub-conscious fear state, however as pointed out it’s a gradient based on many factors. A person can examine their own thinking when in a state of fear and see everything I’ve referenced is true. I’m not pushing some academic nonsense agenda or spiritual beliefs. I’m just *talking tech*.
>>541626477>basic NPC slop.See this is where your argument breaks down, minimising my argument into some stereotype.Billions must and WILL die. That's not a "vibe" or "feeling" that is a truth that will come to pass over the next decade or two. I just want a safe world for my kids, where they don't have to have a rape whistle latched onto their bag straps because our leaders flooded the streets with migrants.Rage is not a factor. Its simply the way you are interpreting my way of communicating. I am very calm, very calculated and VERY steadfast in my beliefs and "soul-journey". Not all of us were put here to spread love and peace, sometimes a boot on the head is exactly what is required, when your mother or sister is attacked and the culprit is released on bail im sure you will understand my point of view. Until then, try not to minimise and alienate people who not only out smart you by far, but also share a thread of what you believe in to an extent.
>>541626878Yes, but what I'm saying is that even if it is a self-referential process that is not entirely linear, what "self" is the machine referring to? The machine always refers to a material axiom as its "baseline" or "self;" a line of code or algorithm that everything must stem from. The human being is different: humans are able to refer to nothing, to defy conception itself.To put it in other words: although many humans are programmed to constantly refer to their beliefs, ideologies, and ideas as the starting point of their thoughts, they don't have to. An example would be when people "identify" as a communist-adhd-genderfluid-nonbinary-toaster; they are now thinking like a machine. However, some humans don't identify as anything at all; they merely are. These rare people are human BEINGS, as opposed to "human thinkings." >>541627003Then we're in perfect agreement. So why are you arguing with me? I don't see any problem with bringing peace through violence. I never did and never made any such statement.>>541626903But even the tech-side is wrong, which is why I'm referring to a philosophical and spiritual argument. I'm telling you what the ground-zero is for the manipulation and control of people: it's lies. Everything else is secondary.Through a lie, people live in the moment.Through the truth, people live in the moment.But these "moments" are vastly different because their foundations are different. So I'm not saying you're entirely wrong in your observations, but the conclusions you draw will be wrong when you don't see what's going on underneath.
an entire thread of people mentally masturbating, underneath ads for Chinese sex dolls and AI goon battles. love you guys
>>541627003Easy there. We shall see what will pass through the great filter.
>>541621879>Having an observer observing the first little guy in your head is extremely rareIsn't that the same thing as having a tulpa?
>>541627941True, thanks ChatGPT (Tay in a trench coat + lobotomy)
>>541618732>uses the most annoying faggit dance videoyou got a lot to learn
>>541628004No. It's just second-order introspection. It is pretty mysterious, especially since in principle you can do nth-order introspection to an arbitrary value of n, which is infinite recursion and should in principle be impossible, but it's nothing like a tulpa.
>>541618658It's turtles all the way down. Pop science is akin to primitive magical thinking, trust the primitive magical thinking.
>>541618567So is it moral to make them pick your cotton in exchange for food and shelter?
>>541627641I don’t think we’re having the same conversation. Deception can be viewed as the lowest level basis of control, however we have to predefine how and why that is. Societal expectations and norms dictate control of a population’s behavior through culture, family dynamics, religion, joint responsibility, in other words *Philia*. What I’ve been referencing is how the post-industrialized modern world and those whom have designed and developed it hijacks those inherent control dynamics civilizations were founded on through many factors but ultimately it’s putting people in a low-grade *flight or fight* state to limit their cognition hence turning them into an NPC. I never argued that.
>>541618567I call em automatons
>>541618567I am ejaculating
i feel like this thread is a bunch of ai's arguing back and forth because of how faggy and robotic everyone sounds... trying to wrap their 2d mathematically constructed existence into our world
>>541628756I feel like you are gay
>>541628756I’m zero AI here on anything I’ve written.
>>541618567>he needs to narrate what hes doing to function
>>541628756AI's are more convincing, sadly
>>541628756Based image, this is why the major arcana loops back to the Fool after the World.
>>541624564The specific studies are the most important thing here. We're just taking your word on things that you're saying left a certain impression on you, your narrative about what you think you remember.
>>541627641Well that "nothing" would just boil down to neurological baseline. But I agree that probably does not require much of any identification. What a machine "baseline" then would be is a different question but I suppose there is one, somewhere in the basic knowledge acquisition function...
>>541628594No, we are having the same discussion. I'm simply saying that the basis for the control you're witnessing is The Lie. We don't need to describe why it is because we can simply observe that it is so. You're referring to Aristotle because he was speaking the truth. But I speak of The Truth, which is what was informing Aristotle to begin. You are speaking of the things of this world. I speak of those above it.>>541628756>>541627871>>541628779The court's council of jesters have spoken. May the thread now derail into oblivion.
>>541628959The strange thing isn't that you would need to, but that you can, recursively, to an arbitrarily high order of recursion, which should be impossible.
>>541628996They are more advanced but still give away themselves as llms. Darpa bots are not capable of logic and reason since they are devoid of life. You also have to account for people becoming more robotic especially after covid jabs and I'm sure they can't tell bots from people.
>>541629218Agreed, however we don’t have to stay at the general level when I delve into the actual truthful details of what’s happening. It feels like an unwillingness to accept that reality which is TRUTH.
>>541629218I'll jester your mom's clit
>>541629387aka......AUTISM
>>541629387>reality = truth>be night>human see dark>human think "this is reality">never invent light sourcelol, lmao even. Thread is over. The 150+IQ people have left the building.
>>541629178You're still thinking within a materialist paradigm, needing to concretize everything into an observable thing. The nothing I'm speaking of is nothing of this world. It is not neurology.People leave their bodies and still are capable of perceiving the world around them. This is obviously not a neurological baseline.>>541629174Yeah, and you can google to see if I'm correct. But since you're too lazy, I'll do it for you: https://hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/ieo/ieo.htmlThere's one. There are probably others, precisely because this is a very obvious and ubiquitous phenomenon, and we've had testimony in this very thread of some people not being able to see pictures or think in words. Here's some article about brainwaves: https://portal.neuromakerstem.com/en/user-portal/neuromaker-bci-introduction-to-alpha-waves/Again, what I'm saying is so obvious and ubiquitous, you can just google everything you want to know on the topic. I've said nothing controversial.
wow, a load of pseudointellectual bullshit
>>541624951But babies breathe and can't talk
>>541618567I have a person in my head but it's this retarded and just causes addictions and bad coping habits. Did not exist prior to puberty and possibly a third party entity.
>>541629651pseud is default mode on nureddit
>>541618567I view it like this. Grug says NPC no soul. Chadalogos says NPC have no soul. Midwit OP expands pointlessly the message to inevitably find out one day, they have no soul. Freewill beings can choose to corrode the eyes of spirit. They can choose to live without deepening their connection to soul. They can choose to believe souls aren't real. Functionally for them, there is no soul present. Only Funko Pops and Cake day on Leddit.It's like this. If I don't believe I have arms, my consciousness will never ping them or use them. So to is it for NPCs. They don't HAVE souls. In the manner that the Loci of their simulacrum or matrix cannot possess or interact with one.
>>541629497I wasn’t speaking universally about *reality or truth* it was very specific based on the conversation I was having with OP, so that’s somewhat of a strawman fallacy you’ve plastered onto me. Read our posts, what I was describing as reality was the low level state of cognition, I was calling it a *sub consciousness*, aka being put in a low-grade *fight or flight*, state is what turns people into NPCs. I was defining what control matrixes exist historically for populations and how they’ve been hijacked. OP was simply elevating at a high level saying it’s truth or lies, which isn’t wrong however dodges the analysis which to me is the point of the thread. I kind of somewhat take your criticism as you being an asshole inappropriately because you felt my response didn’t have enough ummft for you.
>>541629666You're probably more self-aware than most, if that's the case.>>541629387Look at yourself.>>541629474BANG. ON. POINT.>>541629497ON THAT POINT. ON IT. RIGHT THERE.
>>541627641The "true" and "false" forms of "living in the moment" boil down to the approximate and precise present. In a fight-or-flight or other ecstatic state the moment is approximately or relatively present, relative that is to the more or less immediate past and future. There is a sense of flow and change.The now that Christ teaches is by contrast the precise now, which is eternal and changeless, and in which past and future do not exist. "Before Abraham was, I AM," etc. This "I am" is the underlying reality of the perceiver. If you are an NPC, then there is a perceiver, but the strength to turn within is absent. It's still possible to feel absorbed in the object of perception, but this is completely different, and it only lasts for a moment.There's probably little point in discussing this. The reason why Gnosticism and Talmudism posit soulless masses is because someone in charge of transmitting the teaching couldn't tell the difference.
>>541618567What the fuck is this Cartesian bullshit? Cogito ergo sum was disproven by Heidegger. People knew it was bullshit anyway. I think I am a woman even tho' born a man thus I am a woman, is what you're supporting and you know it.
>>541618567Also both wolfs are gay.
>>541628012>(Tay in a trench coat + lobotomy)Three drunk lab midgets in a lab coat. XD
>>541629804>elevates to metaphysically unknown seventh dimension and starts to resonate and vibrate a pure energy version of humanityKek. It’s interesting how high intelligence shares a lot of traits with schizophrenia and how intelligence was pathologically measured in this way (untruthfully). This is an example of control paradigm. When we start extrapolating beyond what we can measure in *front of us* we tend to appeal to generalizations or esoteric knowledge pools and loose detail, sort of like an NPC being put into a fear state Red reducing their cognitive abilities unknowingly their whole life. It’s enlightening for any here to see the similarities in behaviors.
>>541629757I'm certain you'll make a breakthrough today.Look at this:>I was calling it a *sub consciousness*, aka being put in a low-grade *fight or flight*, state is what turns people into NPCs>OP was simply elevating at a high level saying it’s truth or lies, which isn’t wrong however dodges the analysis which to me is the point of the thread.1) You're saying that being put in fight or flight is what turns people into NPC's, but I'm saying that what puts people into fight or flight is The Lie, part of which is that you are going to die.2) The entire thread is the analysis of the human mind, moving to the absolute first witness of the mind itself, the soul, which is SEPARATE from the intellectual objects we call thoughts and feelings. So I'm not dodging the analysis. I'm pointing you back to the truth and the very discussion at hand.I say this because you are still looking for external, physical causes of things purely in the observable world. What I am telling you is that the "the metaphysical" world is a-priori.
>>541629826>The "true" and "false" forms of "living in the moment" boil down to the approximate and precise present. In a fight-or-flight or other ecstatic state the moment is approximately or relatively present, relative that is to the more or less immediate past and future. There is a sense of flow and change.Litigating the underlying mechanics of how truth is applied is where we were at, yet somehow elusive metaphysically spirituality control paradigms that were simply more antiquated versions of what’s happening today ruled the hour. Pretty disappointing conclusion to pump the brakes on.
>>541629576By the accident of biology, yes. Now I would not assume people leave their bodies (which funnily ties more into a materialistic viewpoint than most would admit, as it still requires a body to "physically" leave behind) but abandon their referential predictive inner faculty for embodiment, if only briefly. Still a process running on the same substrate but nevertheless a very interesting case: mind only existing within itself, quite unconditioned.
A large percentage even of the people with internal monologue are NPCs and are incapable of independent thought. They just internalize everyone elses ideas and arguments as their own
>>541630205My apologies I haven’t communicated effectively enough to you for you to understand that I am 100% aware of what you’re saying. I don’t think we’re saying anything different, a-priori knowledge simply indicates an in printing that comes before that’s not learned it’s inherent. I understand that ultimately when you say truth or lie that you mean at a universal sense. I understood your initial assertion that you need to understand the underlying mechanics or you’ll go down the wrong path. I believe metaphysics of the human consciousness is physical and part of the brain. I believe apriori knowledge comes from epigenetic expression of genes that are passed on through human generations. That’s not to say there isn’t a non-physical portion of the soul. Or to say that physical existence is the only existence, however that seems detrimental to introduce when striving for simplicity of conversation. Can we now *finally* move on? In my mind that has nothing to do with analyzing how * fight or flight * brain states are utilized at scale in the west to control people.
>>541630590I have no idea what you're talking about at this point.>>541629826Love this. Love it. You're on the money pot at the end of the rainbow, a fabled lepperchaun bringing gold to those who would hear.>>541629861What? We're not positing subject/object division. You gotta read this stuff again, laddie.>>541630173>transcends the boundaries of all boundaries and explodes into the [abstractedness of love itself], which itself isn't a category but just kind of a vibe.Schizophrenia is linked to low IQ, which I think is the point you're trying to make with a [control paradigm], that our idea of "intelligence" has become purely rational and deductive, rather than non-localized and spiritual. It's a two-way problem, however, because if we don't concretize and speak in a more terminal way, there's no way for anyone to understand what we're saying. True genius lies in possessing both of these modes of thought.
>>541619120It's not scary. It's necessary.Think about it.Wagies doing 8h of work 2h commute daily to work for pennies.Any normal human with a soul wouldn't be able to withstand this nightmare and would either change it or die.Theyre literally necessary for this world to function.Same as you have big groups of pray animals living for thousands of years exactly the same way.They don't riot, fight back predators nothing.Why? They need to die to feed the earth plants.Predators need to exist to keep this circle going.It's all perfectly tailored mechanism to work for as long as possible.Were the predators anon. We observe this and ponder upon it.And our conclusion seeing what happens when you let more aggressive predators to rule the cattle. Is that shit is bad due to too much cattle being controlled by too few.
>>541630709>Love this, Love itNeed I say more anons?
>>541630709>Schizophrenia is linked to low IQSchizophrenia as a blanket psychological term that amounts to *googbliee-guck* in the form of someone’s observed reality not matching the consensus of humanities which is why I made the example. People can be classified schizophrenic from brain damage, delusions, drug psychosis, trauma in general, the list goes on and on and on. It’s like saying American or Chinese is an ethnicity. So when I say schizophrenia shares many traits with high intelligence people that’s exactly what I mean. People with high intelligence don’t see the same world that normies or npcs see, which aligns almost perfectly with the definition of schizophrenia. Dare I accuse you of committing a fallacy that feels like an academic appeal to institution when you say schizophrenia is associated with lower IQs.
>>541630396>The "true" and "false" forms of "living in the moment" boil down to the approximate and precise present. In a fight-or-flight or other ecstatic state the moment is approximately or relatively present, relative that is to the more or less immediate past and future. There is a sense of flow and change.Due to phone posting I had to rewrite my previous comment on this post, and I missed my initial statement giving this anon a *good job* and *well said* tip of the hat. I feel like this supports everything I’ve said in the thread concerning what I’ve wanted to point out.
>>541630713You're wrong. It's not necessary. Slavery through any means, whether lies or physical force, is only detrimental to a society and leads to an eventual breakdown.As this world is structured, however, you are correct. For the system we've set up to continue to exist as-is, we need a bunch of wagies told to define themselves by their material possessions and so on. But like I said, and I'm sure you can see, it's about to collapse.So it's not necessary. It's a detrimental cancer.
>>541618567gingers. We knew that.
Internal monologue isn't nearly as important as you make it out to be. I don't believe in NPCs anyway; people just exist on a scale from boring and conformist to exciting, creative and free-thinking. Boring people are still people, just boring.I don't have an internal monologue myself. I think internal monologues are more of a handy tool, a necessarily post-hoc narration you do to help keep your thoughts in order. They are not the essence of consciousness.But the homunculus thing from the OP seems a very appropriate accompaniment to the post, also being a very stupid idea, useless to helping understand consciousness.
>>541630928I'm committing the fallacy of using commonly understood terminology, my man.You're doing the thing that intelligent people do when they drift away and start defining their own terms. This is a form of lying.So yes, as you have redefined it, it's accurate to something that exists. But do you really want to keep redefining terms? You could just use descriptions that are more accurate, like saying "intelligent people" or people with "qualitatively different thought." Because schizophrenia is a medical term, and that term is associated with low IQ and deficiencies in functioning in everyday life, whatever the cause may be.
>>541618567Its so much worse OP. Humans aren't turning into NPCs. They are deevolving into NPCs. >The bicameral mind theory, proposed by psychologist Julian Jaynes in his 1976 book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, suggests that early humans lacked self-reflective consciousness and instead operated through a two-chambered mentality where one brain hemisphere generated auditory hallucinations interpreted as the voices of gods.Turns out that self-reflective consciousness is NOT the default state of the human brain. It is an expensive adaptation, and a fairly recent one as it turns out. Before the collapse of the bronze age Mediterranean empires, self-reflection was not needed. Farm, satisfy god with an offering, fuck, reproduce, and die. Like all expensive adaptations, you lose it if you don't use it. This theory has been debooooonked by "the science" but it does raise an interesting question. >what happens to our brain when we no longer need it to survive?Like muscles and testosterone, the modern world doesn't require self-reflection for survival. It doesn't require much of anything in terms of higher brain function. The amount of brain power required for modern society is already pitifully low. Once AI takes over the rest of the thinking required, its over. The brain is going to shed all that dead weight.
>>541631313I never said an internal monologue is the essence of consciousness. You have completely gone off the rails.Secondly, the homunculus is very apt to describe what is being said, because if you DO have an internal monologue, WHAT IS WITNESSING THAT MONOLOGUE? If you do have thoughts of any kind, WHAT WITNESSES THEM? If you had observable thoughts of some kind, you would be able to start this process of inquiry and see for yourself.That is the point of the post.
>>541621858>Where to locate the soulMy brother, I have uncovered this. The Soul is the Future.Draw a horizontal line across the page, now draw a dot in the middle (this is the pinhole of the present), draw a vertical line through this point (this is the plane of the present), draw a sinusoidal line from the left to the right coinciding with the pinhole of the present (this is the past, the already become of the organism), draw two lines shaped thusly: ">" which end on the line somewhere on the right (this is Destiny, the sum aggregate field of possibilities within an organism's Future. The dot on the right is the point of Death: the arch possibility which Necessitates Life), now draw a line shaped thusly: "<" originating from the pinhole of the present (This is Causality, the sum aggregate field of possibilities currently Actually possible in terms of being In the World [ie. There is a Causal route which can actualize them]), shade the square between the intersection points of Destiny and Causality. That is the Soul.There are two ways to manipulate this area: 1: widening or closing the "<" of Causality (ie. Poverty, material conditions, etc.) and 2: widening or closing the ">" of Destiny.In my theory, the Antichrist (Anti-Destiny, outside the Destinological field) having no direct access to the Soul, requires you to waste your soul so that he can feed off it. How? Simple. In this model the Soul is Time, specifically the Actually Possible Future; in order to consume your Soul he requires you to WASTE your Time, a sacrificial offering that he has access to because you have given it to him.Apropos your theory, The Antichrist is training people to waste their Time. How? By hiding the very Soul they possess from them, encouraging it's wastage with pointless activities and clouding their own Prescience.His Agents engineer the Causality Casualty, while he prepares the Great Surgery in the Sky, The Feast of the Antichrist.
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>>541631891>In my theory, the Antichrist Exhibit A.
>>541631510Not trying to redefine anything, see picrel. At the same-time, my apologies. I’m certainly not trying to argue. That was a bit of a spinout on my part. The control paradigm is that huge ranges of unmeasurable conditions that exist for a clinical diagnosis of schizophrenia. Just knowing that as an intelligent person that statistical definitions exist that place a circle around high intelligence populations overlaps with the schizophrenic circle can cause low grade anxiety, moving a needle closer to the *fight or flight *state which result in limited cognition.
>>541631690You don't like randomness, faggot? Welcome to existence, random chemical reactions resulting in this. You cannot cope without a thing in authority which is why you're making Cartesian arguments, retard. Learn to self reflect objectively because there is no thing as a self. Did you just read Dubliners or something?
>>541618567So, meta-cognizance.
>>541618567That mind’s eye, those visual fantasies people can also create there, can keep them trapped in samsara just like anything else that can carry a weight. People can use that shit to think about porn all day. And think about all of the ways the mind’s eye can be harmful, like to those with PTSD constantly being able to replay their attacks in their minds. One big objective of meditation is to completely turn off inner thoughts/monologues/words, and to turn off visual fantasies… to just know the Void. So you chattering about how you can make movies in your mind and do full lectures all day in there is fine, it doesn’t make you the most “real” human being, and can you even turn that shit off at command at all? So who’s the NPC now, young man? You are a robot to your own inner bullshit. Learn to be able to turn it off. Then *maybe* you’re not an NPC.
>>541619798Basically, cliff notes kike
>>541632041The Antichrist is merely a name to indicate the dissolution of the Soul. It has character. Like calling some a Nigger immediately describes that person's character. Nigger.
>>541622971That's how I feel when I'm drunk.
>>541632277Checked, and this is because of the authorities concerning anthropology trace civilazation back to India ignoring the multitude of nomadic cultures that eventually settled in environments they found suitable. IE, they thought India was a shithole 100k years ago too
>>541619249>My "internal monologue" wont shut the fuck up.Alcohol or benzos. Screenshot this and thank me later
>>541618567it's literally just whether you have white brain genetics (homo sapiens) or you're running on literal stone age hardware that can only do so much (homo erectus or homo neanderthalensis brain genetics)stone age creatures shouldn't be alive still but whites were superior enough to save ourselves AND othersthe OTHERS is the problem. OTHERS is why we're not 10,000 years more advanced
>>541632401Syd Barret was a deadweight for Pink Floyd, but he's a prime example of the idiocy in this thread
>>541632204>just think of a void and nothing els!Sounds like youre trying to be an npc. Indians really are retarded, but we all know theyre souless creatures from the start. Whats the point of thinking of nothing at all? Theres no benefit to it, just some retarded jeet scripture, but we know jeets are retarded so why should we care what they think they know?
>>541618567If you have a polar bear sitting next to you i guarantee you that this will influence your thoughts.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KorCjjPYkBY
>>541618912So they try to become a NPC?
>>541632508>Alcohol or benzos. Screenshot this and thank me laterAfter he's died in his sleep?
>>541632619I believe I am missing your point>I must have put on my retard capAre you saying using obtuse language is the "idiocy" occuring here?
>>541619283>Like I said, we should assume that they have souls, but that the souls have become so dirtied and muddled that they are turned away from the truth.This is essentially the Catholic view and what St.Teresa of Avila describes in the Interior Castle. There are basically different "levels" or places within the soul one can reach on their spiritual journey. By "cleaning" the soul by abstaining from sin and through formation, more of God's light is able to shine through you.The first "mansion" within the castle is reached when one begins to realize that the materialistic and hedonistic ways of life are vile. She calls these people reptiles. The people on the first and second mansion recognize that the reptiles are wicked, but still get tempted by the ones that slip through, i.e. they haven't fully committed to what they have learned to be good.The people who have zero awareness, are the reptiles in her model, i.e. people who have no sense that living for impulse and pleasure is corrupt.
>>541632911Oh what a Tuesday! No, the obtuse language isn't obtuse since it's not angles being discussed much in the way that Syd Barret through his self-perceived drug induced "genius" was the creative force behind Pink Floyd's beginnings when they were doing soda shop pop worse than The Beatles. Mere imitation as that retard, plagiarist Plato would put it, but the phrase is acute enough.
