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What "rights" are you losing from Flock cameras?
Privacy? You don't have privacy in public.
Search & Seizure? You're not being searched and nothing is being seized from you.
No warrants needed? Do the police need a warrant to record you from traffic cameras? From store cameras? From your neighbor's ring camera? No.
So fuck off. You retards voted for Trump to be tough on crime, and now you're whining because he's tough on crime.
Make up your fucking mind.
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We did it, Twitter!
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>>541619755
Why should a private company be able to make a profit off of data they collect from the public but cant allow the public to access because of bullshit reasons?
Why cant I see the maps they make of every wifi, Bluetooth and phone signal they intercept?
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>>541619755
>never read 1984
To be fair, there are a ton of big words in that book.
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>your face/phone bluetooth id/car plate being searched in public view isnt a search
Okay retard
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>>541619755
all these migger bot accounts are just a phone on a wall in a tel-aviv basement
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Stop and identify laws are ruled unconstitutional. This accomplishes the same thing in automated fashion.
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>>541620081
Take off the memeflag, tranny. You're not fooling anyone with your jew hatred.
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I am pro flock and white.
Complaining about flock is like complaining about moving to the suburbs.
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>>541621496
>Claims to be White.
>Doesn't capitalize White.

I'm actually White. And the headlines about police officers being caught misusing the data keep rolling in. Not only are they tracking your every move, the mid-wits that work at the local PD can just browse that information with impunity and without legal cause. Sure, some of the bigger departments do audits and have access control. But think of all of the Podunk cops who also have access to that data with zero oversight.
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>>541619755
The security stole them.
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>>541620046
>car plate being searched
thats just called reading, nigger
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>>541619755
I actually don't know why people are complaining about these, other than the issues with trusting the secondary sources their software produces as if it were primary evidence, but that seems more like a user level problem and also a "the company makes wildly unverifiable claims about the correctness of it's software" problem
But as long as law enforcement uses it's fancier features for detection and first line things rather than as a be all end all to evidence, which is reckless to begin with, there is really no issue at all with having them. In all honesty, we need them. Anons watching publically available ring doorbell camera footage is nice but there is little other way for police to notice crimes that happen every day.
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>>541619755
>I need a piece of paper to tell me what's right and wrong in my society
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>>541622614
Yeah, I am simply "reading" where you've been going and have been at all day.
why don't these stupid fucking goys get that?
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I can identify people from their gait too so I don't see the big deal.
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>>541621912
I trust those "podunk cops" with my life.
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>>541622794
the magic rectangle in your pocket already tracks everywhere you go. I hate the people that flock cameras are being built for more than I hate flock cameras
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>>541619755
It is a search when you aren't viewing it yourself in public, you retarded gaping anus power faggot. kys kike
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>>541623353
Yes, and flock also records pings of that magic rectangle to know it's you driving the car and not some other cunt.

You know the fun thing about the magic box recording where you are? They need a warrant to access that and not slipping a company some taxpayer funds for on demand access.
Nigger.
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>>541623383
But it is only the information of things that are in public.
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>>541619755
Sounds about right, to take it a step further, what 'rights' are you losing if we hang you?
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>>541619755
>From store cameras? From your neighbor's ring camera
yes retard.
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>>541623353
Oh God, you’re right. I especially hate how smartphones are surgically attached to your hands and there’s no way to go anywhere without it tracking you. It’s physically impossible to detach yourself from your phone even for a little bit!!! Such an intelligent comparison
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Flock buys privately traded lists of social security numbers and other information, and gains access to police database to correlate it with criminal history, arrests, traffic stops....etc. This enables them to construct a dossier on millions of people to judge who is likely to be commiting a crime, a sort of pre-crime database.

But this really just amounts to warrentless searches, which is illegal for the police to do, so they hire a privatr company to do it.
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>>541619755
>pro-flock shitter thread #928728464728
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>>541623748
How is it a warrantless search though? This is all public information. Putting it in the hands of one company is very sketchy for sure, but if this was a municipal department doing the same thing, I wouldn't understand how correlating public records is a bad thing.
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>>541619755
Stop being a retard. This is nigger tier stupid and, by extension, so are you.
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The supreme Court already ruled that warrantless tracking and surveillance is illegal. Next question.
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>>541623879
The reason the police are hiring a private company is because normally searches like this require probably cause. The police can't just look up information on everyone they see, judge would stop them.
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>>541619755
Following someone around and recording their location is a crime, it's called stalking
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>>541622744
>Trust the government
Were you born yesterday?
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Oy vey. it is very anti-semitic to not let the Jews establish a dystopian surveillance state.
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>>541619755
Freedom of movement; governments should not be allowed to track and monitor vehicles passively and autonomously without a warrant
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>>541619755
I have the right to crank my hog while im sitting in my truck, its high enough that people cant me doing it when they look thru the windows. these high angle elevated cameras are a violation of my privacy
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>unmonetized engagement bait thread
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>List the right right now to not live in a nigger hellhole where you're constantly spied on all day and the only time you can be alone is when you go home and lock your door and step inside your faraday cage
Uhm, this is just evil. I have the right to destroy evil. A little saw takes out their 1,000 dollar camera + their 3,000 a year per camera income, takes like 2 minutes.
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>>541619755
>Pointed at private property
WARRANTLESS SURVEILANCE NOW FUCK OFF AND GET A COURT ORDER FROM A JUDGE
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>>541619755
Lmao being tough on crime while he sucks baby penis and floods the country with more brown
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>>541624022
Targeted Individuals will get 30-50 stalkers mobilized during any outing, in addition to all the flock camera tracking.
A jobs program for these retards. They are told to record the most mundane stuff and send it to a data center. Like slaves.
What else is there for these retards to do since there are no decent jobs for them in jew economy?
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>>541623879
Because the purpose of this is to sell the information they gather to law enforcement.
I am pretty sure we have very similar laws about this.
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It's not just rights, cultural values are being violated. For a society that still has fundamentally high-trust sentiments ingrained it's appalling for the environment to become low-trust. Flock isn't solving the issue. The cameras going up means your government never plans to actually fix the core problems you allegedly need them for.
>no, we're not removing the violent elements
>but if you get stabbed by a feral element we'll have him back in court :)
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>>541619755
He can be tough on the criminals, but he needs to leave the innocent people alone.
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>>541619755
I used to care about things like this a lot but now there's so many brown 3rd worlders in my country, I don't care about their rights.
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>>541619755
Flock cameras in their intended use absolutely constitute unlawful search. Fuck off with this kike nonsense and fuck that orange shabbos goy.
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>>541619755
>You retards voted for Trump to be tough on crime, and now you're whining because he's tough on crime.
Red states and counties have banned Flock more than blue. You are having textbook TDS.
>Do the police need a warrant to record you from traffic cameras? From store cameras? From your neighbor's ring camera?
Yes. Police require warrants to acquire said footage. They cannot walk up and confiscate the footage. A judge has to declare that it is a reasonable request, sign the warrant, and then the police can acquire the footage.

And to answer your own twitter post you wanted to put here because you wanted to drive up your engagement, yes, actually, courts have agreed that creating a database of your movements is unreasonable search. Having a photo of you is not, creating a database tracking your movements is.
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>>541622614
Nah they're writing it down and logging it
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>cops say you did a serious crime
>you deny, demand evidence
>they say they have flock footage proving it
>you go to jail
has already happened.
https://reason.com/2026/08/13/flock-cameras-and-license-plate-readers-are-everywhere-can-we-trust-cops-with-them/
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>>541619755
Pick a lane faggots.
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>noooo, the flock cameras will prevent me from.... oh wait, they can't see that I'm just a 4chan-cel in a basement with a Chinese sex doll...
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>>541625617
Here you go for that last point since I know you'd rather keep lying or avoiding the topic rather than engaging with it. The supreme court already ruled creating a database of movements as unconstitutional.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/585/16-402/
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>>541623975
The supreme court has also ruled that you do not have a right to not be executed by the state just because you're actually innocent.
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>>541625871
And before someone disingenuously makes the argument that they said it doesn't affect security cameras, Flock isn't a security camera. It's a plate reader attached to an AI powered database and checks every qualification for being a daily part of life and is logged without any affirmative action from the user.
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The thing with flock cameras people realize that if this comes online, it will enable the kikes and their lapdogs to crush dissidents with greater ease when they inevitably begin making laws and regulations that punish anyone outside of their chosen bioweapons of the hour from doing their job of making your life miserable while they sit doing their evils in safety and privacy. They want to make sure they catch whatever the goys might do to rebel and cut it at its roots before it has the opportunity to spread.
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i am so fucking tired of no one having any real political beliefs other than "i dont like those other people."

theres no reason to be this ignorant this day in age, and putting a chadface in front of ignorance doesn't make it a good thing.
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>>541619932
You can put your own cameras and make your own maps in public. In fact I predict it will be essential to have multiple cameras from different providers on every corner.
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>>541626578
There is no safety and comfort unless they sit in a bunker. It is well known by all terrorist regimes to attack the heart of the enemy. War only kicks off once the bankers have nowhere to hide.
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Yes Flock cameras are the problem, not the personal GPS devices with microphones every person on the planet now has.
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The cameras are not a violation of the 4th amendment. The indefinite cataloging, and the act of searching the database for a specific person's activities are
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>>541619755
the infinite flock camera array could be thought of as requiring all innocent people to wear ankle monitors, except it's actually much worse than that.
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>>541626578
There are many low level people working for kikery who have no function other than to follow text message orders from some shadowy phone app.
The 3rd world trash obviously, a lot of whites doing it too, or they work in utilities as the only way to have job in that field.
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Complaining about flock cameras is like bitching at someone for smoking a cigarette inside an active house fire
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>>541619755
It's stalking you kike.
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We live in an anarchotyranny that lets violent niggers get off with a slap on the wrist but mercilessly punishes Whites who defend themselves and their property. Flock isn't going to stop crime at all, it will only further the deliberate subjection of Whites and our eventual replacement by subhumans. It's therefore our duty to destroy every one of those fucking cameras before we end up a dystopian hellhole like the UK.
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Why do americans want to be china so hard ?
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>>541619755
Very Ripe
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>>541623879
Flock footage establishes "probable cause" for the officers. At that point its out of the officers hands legally. Its a way to get around the officers themselves determining probable cause so they can't be held liable for it. If they can just say "well flock told me that this was a likely stolen vehicle", then they can just pull anyone over as long as the cameras said so.

If anything, the moral panic here isnt even universal monitoring, its selective monitoring. Flock can flag every crime within its vision, but are the cops gonna arrest a billionaire that happens to j walk or is smoking dope in public? No. Its like the IRS dumping all its resources into small time errors and fraud rather than systemic fraud.

Flock systems, while are good for stopping petty crime, still doesn't make the justice system more fair or balanced. Its just exacerbates the existing dynamic of policing (writing tickets for stupid administrative laws and possession versus actually solving murders and other violent crime)
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>>541619755
it's a very specific case of a violation of unwarranted search [and seizure]
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>>541619755
Fuck it, I'm gonna make my own license scanner and start logging license plates lol.
Can they stop me?
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>>541627913
No, maybe, depends on who you piss off I guess.
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>>541626163
>AI overview
Lmao that's nice you dumb nigger.
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>>541623353
>the magic rectangle in your pocket already tracks everywhere you go. I hate the people that flock cameras are being built for more than I hate flock cameras
This is called a "goyem gotcha". They think it makes them sound clever. I for one think they should be monitored 24/7 so they can't start behaving in antisemitic ways.
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Its not the nature of the cameras,.those are fine.
Its the people abusing the system for their own personal gains instead of really solving crimes. Solve the accountability of the wrong usage so no one complain about using them to catch niggers
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>>541627913
Stand outside the police station and photo their cars and write down their licence plates, they don't like it very much despite it being perfectly legal.
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>>541619755
>You retards voted for Trump to be tough on crime, and now you're whining because he's tough on crime.
Wake me up when scamgender is completely illegal bro
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>>541628525
Change human nature? good luck with that padawan
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>>541619755
>just give every faggot cop a way to search literally any part of the US with facial recognition tracking
Go into your kitchen, find your favorite knife, and glide it repeatedly across your faggot throat.
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>>541619755
First you lose the privacy.
THEN you lose the rights.
Just try to think ahead a couple of steps.
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>>541619755
Problem with camera systems are that police have immediate access for prosecution and the public has no access accept what the police are willing to give them for defense. Going through this right now just with regular street cameras. I have been blocked from getting a copy of "public" street camera footage 3 times with statements about "privacy" concerns and "ongoing investigation" because camera can show that the cop actually falsified their police report
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>>541628741
>just give every faggot cop a way to search literally any part of the US with facial recognition tracking
I doubt it is only the cops, if I tried really hard, could I find a way to search literally any part of the US with facial recognition tracking precision?
>maybe, i haven't tried, it does seem possible
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>>541619755
>tough on crime
>allows the George floyd summer of love to happen
>not gunning down foreign invaders at the border
I don't think he is
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Oh shit, I've hacked into the mainframe, there you are.
>Gochew now
pew pew pew
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file corrupted, dang. Better luck next time...?
>how & why can there be a first time
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One thing you all need to realize right now. The flock/datacenter thing is not political. It's something bigger and far more dangerous than politics. We need to think about the big picture and put an end to this madness before it takes hold.
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It is very sudden, such is the nature of war, who or what is the enemy? Ourselves?
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>I'm only violating the spirit of the law, not the letter!
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>>541619755
Supreme court ruled running your plates is a search. Being a retard on X doesn't change anything
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>>541630632
Well that's ok then, carry on (in mine craft)
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>>541619755
>What "rights" are you losing from Flock cameras?
>So fuck off
>Make up your fucking mind.
People have made up their minds, but you are indignant about their boundaries, and refuse to respect them. You're exhibiting narcissistic behavior, because that is what you are. You hold citizens in contempt when they safeguard their civil liberties. Your various psychological operations to advance your surveillance state operations repeatedly fail. You are a greedy, petty tyrant, and an enemy of the republic.
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>One should announce their exact location and visual description to the government and its contractors because there is no privacy outside the house
I would never agree to this. That's why they aren't asking for my consent
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When did conservatives become cheerleaders for the surveillance state?
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building a "mosaic" of someone IS a violation of the 4th amendment. Courts have already said 28 days of GPS surveillance without a warrant is a violation of the 4th amendment.
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>>541631208
>Courts
lol, lmao even.jpg
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>>541626695
Why do they own public space? Why can't I rent public sidewalk space for my own gadgets?
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>>541619755
Spiritually Israeli thread
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>>541631654
bro
>You can put your own cameras and make your own maps in public
you don't have to rent anything (just take the loss when some random destroys your property that you left on the street)
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>>541621496
>and white
No you're not. We can tell for a very specific reason, tourist.
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>>541619755
What rights do politicians lose if we put them under permanent surveillance to prevent them from fucking kids. Think of the children.
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>>541619755
it's 300 million counts of stalking.
>Stalking is unwanted or repeated surveillance or contact by an individual or group toward another person.
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>>541632184
good point.
>If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to be absolutely terrified beyond belief about.
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>>541622744
So you are ok with the government funding a private company to side step 4th amendment protections that collects and stores everything they can physically see about your everyday info like driving routes, stores shopped, vehicle info, other device info ( Bluetooth, rfid, WiFi) and storing it for an indefinite amount of time with nearly zero restrictions or oversight on what flock can do with it?

Are you ok with AI being the sole source of accountability when police pull you and your family out of your car gunpoint because the Ai misread or mischaracterized your plates?

Are you ok with them selling your info did the highest bidder? Combining it with other publicly available info and creating a profile for data brokers?
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>>541619755
What difference does it make to you dumb faggot.
Why DO you care so much about FLOCK and whether I want them watching me?

The fact you are a FLOCK SHILL is why I hate it. If it wasn’t a problem (YOU) wouldn’t be here shilling for them day in and day out.



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