Do americans really?>A Seventh Circuit panel ruled that the First Amendment shields private, in-home possession of obscene AI-generated images depicting fictional children in sexual acts, dismissing the possession charge against Steven Anderegg who used Stable Diffusion software.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/appeals-court-delivers-unsettling-ruling-supreme-court-left-no-choice
>>541634965The law had to be overruled by a judge or it could be used to shut down X and arrest Elon
Private? AI-generated? Eh, don't care. Feds watch and collect the real thing.
>>541634965its practically legal if youre white or have money since theyre the only ones that can threaten to kill their kids if they rat on them and believe theyll do it because nigger kids wont care
>>541634965>effectively no different from drawn artwork>CPlol rumao
>>541635484It probably should be illegal because police are going to get tipped off on it regardless because most people won't know its fake. Sounds like a waste of resources to have it legal.With a drawing you know its a drawing by simply glancing at whatever its a drawing of.
Crime are committed against people or property, cartoons are certainly not people and are property of the one possessing it.Jews are just mad because they are losing control of their favorite kompromat.
>>541635618Least serf-coded britpost
>>541635618Oi this bloke believes drawings are drawins. Coppas nick this man
Won't someone think of the cartoon children?Specifically says if you take photos of real kids and ask AI to make CP out of it, that's illegal.Seems to imply that only Hentai / Cartoon gets and pass and anything realistic can potentially get you jailed.
>>541634965It should be illegal because you can generate hyper realistic images and videos now, essentially creating the real thing
>>541634965based burgers
>>541636220>essentially creating the real thingwith the huge difference that no one is actually being abusedits basically a thought crime
As a fascist, I believe possession of this (and honestly many types of pornography) should be punishable by lashings and fines. It should be punitive, to force the offender into good behavior.
>>541634965Based
>>541636220>It should be illegalI'm using art here as a term for creating something VS trying to debate if AI slop is art. Yet no art should ever be illegal to own being the line between acceptable and obscene is so subjective. Most of all anything you create or make that isn't actively shared or sold in a public forum. The problem is government and laws move way slower than tech. It took years just to outlaw revenge porn being online video/photo sharing didn't even exist back in the day. They have no answer for AI yet. They barely have e-bike laws, never mind AI pics
>Freedom of speech >Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speechThe problem is the dumb interpretation of the judges that free speech is the same thing as freedom of expression. If you allow freedom of expression then you cannot have laws. Murder is an expression of anger, but nobody would say it was protected. In the same vein AI generated images are not a form of speech as they are images not written or spoken speech.
>>541634965AI is on the cusp of making life like video so it won't be possible to tell what's real and what's fake, which means everyone will defend real child exploitation as fake to cover their own ass and it will make finding those people much harder than it already isBelieve me when I say that this is a massive Jewish victory
>>541636301That's a cartoon, it doesn't look realistic at all.
>>541634965Oh okay, CP is illegal yet CP is generated on Snapchat by the millions and yet that's okay because our Congressional criminals profited from the stock.Funny, it's almost like nearly the entire US government has been infiltrated by criminals who only want to be rich and enforce their twisted ideological agenda on people rather than serve.How about we get rid of all these gay boomer laws that make no rhyme or reason?These shithead kids are watching porn in third grade. Why we still have boomer judges who think a 16 year old getting fucked is a crisis is the real crisis.America needs a culling, MILLIONS of people need to be executed, including most of the government.
>>541637943MOOOOOODS
ohnonono zoomersisters... next they'll allow disgusting pedo groomer >1 year age gap relationships. how could this be happening to us?
>>541634965lol based, freedom wins, get fucked tyranny loving feminist cucksage of consent being lowered is nextcope and seethe
>>541635484>el peruANO
>>541634965> CPAt no point in the process was any child involved.
>>541638998how the fuck did the LoRas get trained?
>>541634965Well we have pedophile for a president not surprised they legalized CP
On one hand, I think that if an AI generated image or video is indistinguishable from real CP, it's CP.On the other hand, it's preferable to have pedos jacking it to fake stuff than real stuff. Same argument as the loli sex dolls really.Maybe we just need a registry for people who are known to have possessed AICP. They didn't break any laws or harm any children, but you definitely don't want them babysitting or being teachers.
>>541639341>On the other hand, it's preferable to have pedos jacking it to fake stuff than real stuff. Same argument as the loli sex dolls really.yet we're still needing to use this cope almost 2 decades later
>>541634965>looks up 7th circuit>see it's based out of chicongoHmmmmmm
>>541635618The law errs on the side of presumption of innocence you fuck stick>>541636061shittest skinned mutilated rape victim
>>541638998Everyone hates pedophiles but you can't just make it inherently illegal to be one l because of the constitution or something stupid. So we just make it illegal to do anything that suggests you are a pedo like drawing pictures of naked kids. It's not about saving kids. It's about punishing pedos for being pedos.
>>541639264LoRALo(w)Rank Adaptation -10 points for trying to sound smart by being technical and fucking failing miserably.
Why not just put cameras in classrooms
>>541637943Why do you always draw this barren tree in these threads? Does the tree with its' single leafless branch mean something? I don't get it.
>>541637943what decapitated the stick man?
>>541635618>waste of resourcesAnd running these cases through the court system and possibly jail/prison system isn’t going to put a strain on resources?
>>541639548Hatred for "pedophiles" is pure feminism. The concept of pedophilia was invented specifically because used up old roast did not like that men were ignoring them, so they had to make the alternative illegal. Feminism is a core aspect of the spiritual foundation of the modern west, and as such daring to be attracted to young virgins over used up old roast is heresy.
>>541639581still gotta train on something, numbnuts
>>541635484This just strikes as a case of judges having 2 braincells to rub together. Trying to charge people for this would be a legal clown show of epic proportions. Actual people have birthdates that can be used to determine for sure that something is CP. Charging people for AI or drawings is going to instantly create cases with weeks of Hebrews squabbling about whether or not the pictures tits are illegally small.>>541635618>swarms of retarded arabs flooding into your country raping real life children with the full support of the police>"OI MATE THAT PICTURE YOU'RE BEATING OFF TO ONLY HAS B CUPS! IT'S OFF TO THE CLINK WITH YOU"
>>541639341Let's just start producing AI CP slop to flood the internet so you can't find the real stuff. pedos jack off to fake videos, real videos stop being produced because they're unprofitable.Only thing you need now is IRL protection from kidnappings, hollywood and the globohomosphere. Everyone happy>problem?
>>541634965I fucking hate pedos and want them shot, bit fictional chaeacters are not real you retards.
>>541635618What if we just criminalized porn altogether and that way these trillion little stupid what if questions didnt need to be answered
>>541636220Read this here, they arent saying that >>541636220
>>541637582No, that’s jewish thinking. Porn was hsitorically illegal and fell under obscenity. The jews had it redefined to no longe rbe considered obscene which is retarded.
>>541643349Ideally, that would be done. Porn destroys young boys brains, and to a lesser extent girls brains also. It is literally a drug. Orgasm + Porn (supernormal stimulus = a heroin like reaction in the brain)
>>541639548>we just make it illegal to do anything that suggests you are a pedo like drawing picturesExcept you literally do not do that
>>541639927>>541639264>LoRAsThose would be illegal under existing laws
>>541643636Yeah exactly. It didnt used to be legal. All of these squabbles are people just trying to dance around the elephant in the room
So wait, drawn is still illegal unless it was drawn by a machine according to this.
>>541634965Not sure how I view this.I get, that this is technically the correct interpretation.I also get that it is impossible to moderate. Ppl will just claim any woman with perky tits is (((underage))) and that everybody who generates them is a pedo.This may already affect existing open source image creator> Making a woman with small boobs seems only possible up to a point.> It also seems literally impossible to generate boobs that sag very little (tried on z-image turbo as well).> It also seems like it favours generating women with noticable ageing features in the face (although some 18 year old definitely have a very smooth face). (Only applies to krea based on short testing).> Picrel is political. Potential censorship of open AI models. Take that jannies.PS: z-image turbo seems superior for making women when it comes to face.
>>541635618>faggot from a country that doesn't have a constitution shares his opinion
>>541643939You're not supposed to distribute drawn unless it passes the Miller Test. What satisfies the Miller Test? The courts would like to know.
>>541634965I'm not histrionic enough to give a fuck about this
>>541635322Shut up shitskin bitch you liar!
>>541634965>retards who use children to justify their obsessive hatred they must have an outlet are overjoyed they have something new to be outraged aboutGood for them, I might got ahead and save some AI cunny simply to enable these retards to enjoy their misery.
Huge win for freedom of speech and loli lovers PEDO LLOLICON W
>>541634965The ruling only makes sense because we don't have a "kill all pedos at any cost" mandate in society. When the judge makes their decision, they aren't even weighing the potential damage of having a known pedo run around loose. They're only strictly looking at the non-harm that a privately created/viewed image could create. Basically, this is what you get when hundreds of years of kikes interpret your laws.
>>541645269How is this not a massive win for pedos exactly
>>541636220CP is illegal not because it's icky, but because to make it a crime needed to be done against a real person + the whole "repeated victimization" angle.If there's no real person involved there's no basis for it being illegal.I'm honestly surprised that the whole "victimization from repeated viewing" isn't used to make gore videos illegal. Sure, the logic is used for snuff films, but the whole workplace accidents thing ("watch this chinese man get impaled lol" or "lmao look at this Indian get electrocuted") can easily be seen as a "re-victimization".
>>541639759fuck off. adults taking sexual advantage of kids fucks up the kids brains and creates monsters or broken sad husks of humanity. the only people i've seen argue against that are kikes who themselves abused kids.
>>541639264How are LoRas of mythical creatures created?You think there are Dragons flying around?>b-but unicorns are just horses with horns!Okay cool. Girls are just women + flat chest + short + small hips + no pubic hair.You could make a lora for women based off of only Gachi Gay Male actors. "Women" = Aniki + soft jaw + long hair + boobs + no penis + vagina + no muscles
>>541645596The hysterical way society treats sex is what causes the damage. Some how, sexuality has morphed into something to be embarrassed and ashamed of.
>>541645596>kidsDefine this and KYS if you can't.
>>541634965DO NOT ENGAGE WITH ANY OF THIS STUFF!DO NOT PRODUCE IT!DO NOT CONSUME IT!DO NOT SAVE IT TO ANY DEVICES!If you're attracted to that shit AND you don't have enough of a moral objection to stop yourself, then hopefully you can stop yourself after realizing that you'll probably get busted somehow, somewhere>but it's legalFor how long, and in what places?>travel to a foreign countryYou might get busted and face serious consequences >travel to a different stateIt may be illegal there>but it's legal in America! For how long?Do you want to get busted 10 years later because some stupid Ai CP you downloaded got uploaded to the cloud or some other place and they decide to bust you?
/b/ wins again
>>541645527probably because actual pedos don't care for ai sloppa
>>541645527You might be surprised by this, but the majority of people into lolis are not into IRL kids, and vice versa actually.Additionally, there's a list of people floating around on twitter if you want to look, but a LOT of the most famous / vocal anti-loli people were later arrested for cp possession.One of the most famous (and a keyword to use if you want to search to find said list) is "Dr. Pizza".Honestly one of the stupidest things people are doing are conflating IRL or AI cp with clearly 2D artwork.It's so asinine I can only imagine it was done on purpose in an attempt to poison the well.There is next to zero grounds the US will ever outlaw drawings (and have it be upheld once it's challenged in court) due to numerous court cases + precedence. Yet all these retards attempting to write laws always include the word "cartoon" or "drawings".All they had to do was write the law as "indistinguishable from real people" and they would have had very little pushback. Yes the AI vs. Real argument would still be made eventually but they would have removed a lot of the ammo able to be used against it.
>>541634965I fucking hate doing this but isn't this the logical conclusion that we use for other illegal immoral shit like hunting for rino horns? We make fake ones and flood the market so there's no profit to be made and the rinos are safe The sick fucks can make endless shit with ai won't there be no reason to make real versions of it?
>>541634965It's a shitshow of pedophile kikes extorting domesticated citizenry for their freedoms or their own privilege to do absolutely anything without consequences
What was the output hentai or like realistic looking people? If its the former then really no one posting on this website should give a shit
>person uses private instance of software to generate image for personal consumption>this should result in prison time if the image is ickyyou clamor for it to virtue signal how much you hate le pedos, but when you're imprisoned for genning autistic frogs ("hate imagery") you'll mald about how you got herealways ask yourself how a law can be weaponized against you before you support it
is loli illegal
>>541646386the argument for criminalizing it applies only to photorealistic images, for the sole reason that it makes prosecution of actual cheese pizza producers much more difficult by adding the burden onto the state of proving at trial that the image is not AI generatedbut for anything else, it's just extremely distasteful material, but it's not illegal because no party is injured by its production
>>541646557there are some states in the US where laws criminalizing such material are on the books but they have faced no significant legal challengesso if you're going to texas, hiram-chan, better delete that loli from your hard drives unless you want to be the martyr taking it before the supreme court
>>541646557No but it is one of the most degen bottom of the barrel porns one can consume. If you get to that point you should honestly just like kill yourself or perma remove yourself from society somehow.
>>541647042no i mean if it is legal it has an obvious legal foundationsince neither is real
>>541647091i'm not a nonce >>541647110
>>541647128im not accusing you of being one
>>541647110You have it backwards.Everything is legal until there's a legal foundation for it to be made illegal.
>>541647693there is a law against holding cpso you need an exception for foundation
