I post here frequently. I am not racist. I have no racist inclinations. Often the discussion of mass-immigration comes up here, in which I point out how all of our mass immigration in this nation is the result of you and your capitalism. How you, as fascists, are 100% responsible for the mass immigration policies you pretend to oppose. Your responsibility is exclusive.Then many of you indignantly posture, and pretend you don't understand the context of the discussion. You pretend I'm vague or evasive about my politics on the border.I think this is a very funny dynamic. When you have a leftist pointing out your gross hypocrisy, and how you're exclusively culpable in the policies you pretend to oppose. And the only thing you can write in response is to just continually double down on your fascist, MSM-fueled, billionaire-funded misrepresentations of leftists.Funny. It must be nice having all of the media narratives on your side. It must be nice having everything laid out for you, in just such a way where it ensures every American will blame leftists for their problems, but never rightists. It must be nice having the entire MSM, billionaire class, internet-algorithms, universities, corporations and everything pushing your narratives, huh? It must be nice. It must be luxurious in that it allows your rhetoric to just be completely, utterly fucking lazy.
Guys we have a serious discussion here.
>>541654406> and your capitalismcapitalism has not existed in generations.
>>541654854Every post, all you people can do is just write blatant, obvious misinformation with the intention of confusing people and making them uninformed, instead of actually informing them and helping them fix these issues. And this is because none of you want these issues fixed. You are, in fact, open borders capitalists who post edgy fake internet racism in order to convince the working class to continue voting for the financial interests of your precious, precious billionaires.
>>541654962The modern world does not operate under capitalism, it operates under financialism. Under fianancial the Jewish financial instruments have taken the dominant central role in the economy. Real economic activity is secondary. Mass immigration is driven by the need for infinite growth, which derives from the Jewish debt based currencies we are forced to use.This whole endless debate of capitalism vs socialism/communism is a distraction that keeps us enslaved under the Jewish financial system. Everybody is arguing over the wrong thing, whilst the Jew quietly continues to enslave us totally unopposed.
>>541655366You're writing blatant, obvious misinformation in your posts in order to confuse people, and cover-up the cause of mass immigration so that no one can ever fix it, rather than to properly inform people in order to help them end it. You do this because you don't want it ended. This, also, is why you blame jews for mass immigration, in order to cover-up the actual cause, which is your precious capitalism. Everything you people do, in the end, is pushing an open borders agenda, but you're doing it in a manipulative way, in which you pretend to oppose this unpopular policy which you're responsible for, in order to keep working class people voting for your billionaires. And this manipulation is one which only people who have 2 brain cells to think with can actually put together.
>>541654406>implying that the democrats, who have fueled the racial divide since at least 2008 (more like 1960) are the ones who don't want the world to be divided by raceit takes a special kind of midwit to claim that he's a topwit when he really should be relegated to eternal cleanup duty for gorehabbathere's nothing you could do or say to convince me that you're not working some sort of angle to subvert me and kill meyou speak of eating the rich while you sniff the taint of george soros and bill gates and tell me i deserve to die because i didn't take your experimental shot from trillion dollar big pharma>It must be nice having the entire MSM, billionaire class, internet-algorithms, universities, corporations and everything pushing your narratives, huh?delusional
For what it's worth, people, I'm uninterested in pandering to your darkest aspects and qualities, in the way many people on this board frequently do, but if you had communists in power mass immigration would be completely ended.Communist nations are the ones with no mass immigration. Communist nations, the opposite of what's being peddled here on /pol/.
>>541654406You're literally a fucking jew that is here to promote the holocaust and communism.A fat disgusting kike that doesn't even understand the idea of honesty
>>541655825You're exclusively, completely responsible for the culture wars, including the "wokeness" which you pretend to oppose. And pic rel will prove that for anyone who's interested.
>>541655957>>541655825Your opposition to "wokeness" is exactly like your opposition to mass immigration. Completely fake. You're funding the wokeness in order to keep people voting for you. In the precise way you're responsible for the mass immigration for your policy of capitalism. You're responsible for everything which you pretend to oppose. You're con artist grifters.
>>541655957>steal ancient /pol/ infographic and slap elon musk on it>this is totally the issueseriously, how much is david brock paying you to be this retarded?
>>541656039You're a professional propaganda operation on this board. You're paid for your posts, the vast majority of you. And you're using your usual tactic, right now, of accusing your political opposition of your own crimes, in order to evade prosecution.As explained above, the culture wars are your. And these billionaires or other wealthy people whom you mention, who fund them, are doing so in order to keep the public voting for you. And those are the facts, no matter how much your privately owned, fascist MSM brainwashes the public to believe, obviously falsely, that billionaires are communists, or whatever idiocy.
>>541656705>>541656039"The culture wars are yours". Anyway, you get the idea. Your policies. Your crimes. Your funding, which keeps the public voting for you.
Vladimir Lenin, "Who Stands to Gain". Very famous, important communist work, despite being very, very brief. It's brief, therefore, you should read it. It's very relevant to the discussion of "wokeness" and who is funding it.Fascists benefit, which is why billionaires fund "wokeness". It keeps people voting for fascism.>https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/apr/11.htm
Here. I took a screencap of it even. I mean, is there anyone here who actually is too dumb to understand these basic concepts, as they pretend? Probably not. You're the ones benefiting from the "wokeness", and your entire pseudopopulist political movement is based around it because you're benefiting from it, and obviously this is why billionaires are funding it: to keep people voting for your politics, as fascists.
Forget it. We'll all just continue on living in fox news fascism-land, pretending we're fucking idiots who can't figure out basic concepts of "the people who are benefiting the most from certain political rhetoric are, in fact, the ones funding it".Right? That's what you want, right? That's what the platform here is, right? "We're going to pretend to be fucking idiots, who can't acknowledge basic facts, or figure out basic concepts, and hopefully this will incite the public to vote for us, on the basis of blind, idiotic rage!"?
>>541657027>>541656914The Big Lebowski. Remember that movie? When he's in the bowling alley, and telling people "it's uh, it's like Lenin said, man, you uh....you uh....you look for who benefits, and thats who uh...." That's what he was discussing, that article.
>>541657456>>541657027>>541656914I mean, you know, just in case anyone didn't know.
Do any of you have any responses which don't involve just invoking cablenews narratives, then pretending to be too fucking dumb to understand the most basic of concepts, which you're obviously clearly aware of? No? I presume not?
Well, do you say that this applies to all right-wings, or just the american one? Here in Brazil, our right-wing is pretty much dead, sans for some evangelicals that want to turn the country into the States. It is much more so the center parties which control the narrative and the policies. This center is utterly bereft of ideology, they are only really in politics for the paycheck. So how do you adress these people, who beat down on both left, and much more so, the right, tankie anon?
>>541654406OP=nigger loverOvens to maximum In you go
>>541658188When we're discussing the peddling of identity politics in order to mindcontrol the masses, distract them from class issues, and keep them politically behind the establishment power, it's a universal thing throughout the entirety of human history. Not merely confined to the United States of America. No. /pol/ represents the epitome of the mindcontrol techniques which the powerful have used to control the masses for their benefit for time immemorial.
And on that matter, tankie anon, how does the alt-right (not the conservative, zionist right) hold political power? The most we have had is that pathetic excuse of a wimp Elon and his surprisingly ballsy gesture. Yet he still says whites are lazier and wishes to replace the american ones with jeets, only to backpedal at their incompetence. Men like hasan can spew as much bullshit as they like, and hordes gulp it down eagerly. What is seen in the alt-right is much more so a resignation amongst young men that our leaders, women, and even religions have abandoned us and small scale acts of political violence. The right Donald upholds has no revolutionary spirit, it even accepts fag marriage! The current boomer right, esssentially, parrots points fron whatever leftists were spouting before, and accepting after a time whatever he shall spout after and crystallizing it as part of the culture they wish to preserve.
>>541658239Boring response. Your antisemitism is fake, too. Every one of you is zionist, in the end. Your entire western fascist empire depends upon it in order to maintain its militaristic oil imperialism in the middle east.
>>541654406what does fascist mean?I thought it meant faggot (you) and associated with leftism (you)what do you think it means
>>541658405You represent the western political establishment, as fascists. Western nations fund fascism all over the world, where ever it exists. Western nations have been involved in an 80 year long crusade against leftist politics, most namely communism, anywhere they exist upon this planet. Fascism is peddled to the public in every western nation, through the peddling of identity politics. If you don't know this, it's because you're not above the mind control.
who stands to gain from this thread?
OP, you do realize much like there is left (liberals) and left (communists) there is also right (conservative) and right (national socialist). And that on the latter, the mere mention of it has made you to be less than human for decades. We are composed primarily of young men with no hand in the power of politics. How the fuck do we benefit from old farts ethnically genociding us, turning our women against us, and making mental illness common place? That is like me arguing you're a faggot because you're a leftist and leftists (liberal/mainstream) being pro-fag. It is disingenous, you too have no control in the shots that are called.
>>541658469OP, I hoped to argue in goof faith, but how, tell me, does the western state that has violently cracked down on it's own culture and it's men, that has empowered shitskins to come in and take positions of power, that has let women get off the rails and turn into old cat ladies just because they didn't want to settle down and just want chad, espousing fascism and not a turbo-charged form of liberalism?
>>541658566No. There's only the wealthy vs the people. Nothing more. Your politics, as fascists, represent the wealthy. Every other one of these labels you make up to gaslight the public, or evade blame for the poor policies or failures of your compatriots, is just another mindfuck full of innuendo, or pretense.
>>541658642Well, I posted the facts in multiple posts above above >>541658469, >>541655957, >>541654406, which you're intentionally pretending not to have read, or understood now, in order to justify just listlessly repeating your canned propaganda. Usual fare on /pol/. And you're doing it, unconvincingly, while pretending to be the one "arguing in good faith". LMFAO. Typical fascist manipulation and bullshit.
How about if we have a conversation where none of you just pretend you did not read or understand my posts, in order to justify listlessly repeating your canned propaganda? Whoops, there wouldn't be in posts, then.
>>541658647OP I'm genuinely trying to engage with you here but you are retarded. Fascism supported corporatism, IE, no free-market, instead, the monopolies would be goverment-owned and answer to the goverment. A system that was literally designed to be different from capitalism and communism from it's age. Can you provide me with one example of a country where this much is the case in all industries? A singular example is all I ask.
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>>541654854>muh real capitalism has never been tried
>>541658794It's incredible the way you people can't even take responsibility for your own politics. Your politics, as fascists, exist to protect capitalism and it's wealthy beneficiaries from socialism, with identity politics and Jewish scapegoats. Please quit pretending not to understand what your own politics are clearly about, whilst invoking this false notion that you're "arguing in good faith" (which you're obviously not interested in, as a professional propagandist on /pol/).
OP, can you define what system of economy fascism actually used (goverment owned) and compare it to the current system (a few goverment owned enterprises that are hollowed out by the private sector)
>anti-White threadAll fields.
"Tee hee, I know how I'll really fuck with them! I'll post about how I'm arguing in good faith, while I argue in bad faith!" - A /pol/ack's actual thoughts, in many threads.
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>>541658913Can you please quit pretending that you don't understand "fascism" is the right-wing of politics, and exists to promote privatization, capitalism, deregulation, and the financial interests of the wealthy, rather than the people? Everyone understands this. Your unwillingness to recognize this only underscores your own poor faith operation.
>>541654406You're right. The libertarians, the white nationalists, the paleo conservatives, the nazis, the incels, the neocons, the MAGApedes, the alt right are all puppets of the capitalists and are on the same team. 90% of the population is on the right and you and your team on the left are fighting the good fight speaking truth to power against this growing disease known as the right which is massively overrepresented in all aspects of social life.
>>541658929It's incredible the way you people base your operations here upon just ignoring or denying every basic fact. "Fascism is socialism, but the capitalist united states is not real capitalism, and communist china is fascism". This is the narrative /pol/ tells people. Completely unironically. I'm not misrepresenting anyone. This is what the majority of you, in fact, try to post.It's completely inebriated, obviously. You do not believe these lies yourselves, obviously. You post them because you're professional propagandists. Your mendacity belies the complete lack of conviction in your own beliefs.
Capitalism is Jewish.Socialism is Aryan. Marxists are crypto capitalist Zionists. All of your posts and threads throughout the years are in service to capitalism and Jewish power. Fuck your tyranny enabling and fuck your consent to oppression. Heil Hitler and Heil real socialism.
>>541658921Dude you're literally attributing capitalistic characteristics to fascism. And you still have not given examples, nor data, that back up your claims. You still did not give me a single example of a country that actually follows fascist economics. You have said all others argue in bad faith, and granted, a few did just call you a nigger, but when I attempt to actually dialogue with you, you make an ass of yourself by not even researching what you speak. Had you tried to make a case big pharma and co are goverment owned, your statement that our economics are fascist in nature would hold some claim. You still can't give me one example of a corporatist country.
>>541658992I don't know if you're being honest or not, but obviously all of those groups are just different brandings of the republican party. Which are used to target various voter demographics, or to use labels in opportunistic ways which would allow one person to divorce themselves from responsibility from their own implemented, and failed, policies.
>>541654406nonsensical jewish post
>>541658979Fascism was literally created to nationalize such things, you obtuse nigger. At least get your terms right. The literal crux of it is that the nation should control it all. What we instead see, is the nation being blackmailed and controlled by the private, who has no loyalty to his kin.
>>541659122Again, every post from you people on this board is just you willfully denying basic facts. Why are you allergic to facts, man?You know nazis were capitalists. You know nazis weren't socialists "because it's in the name". You're an adult person. You know that putting a name of an economic policy into the name of your political party does not make you that. You understand the nazis, as well as other fascists, privatized, deregulated, and enslaved the working class. You understand these concepts. Why does your platform here on /pol/ always have to revolve around you people pretending not to understand basic facts about history, or basic facts about anything else? Why does your platform predicate itself upon the denial of facts?
>>541659202Already responded to this multiple times >>541659237, >>541659049, >>541658864. No need to respond to any of this further.Of course, worth noting the word "privatization", itself, entered the english lexicon in the first place in order to describe the economic policies of the nazis, as well as the economic policies of mussolini in italy.
Of course, if these people were believers in their fake politics, which they pretend to be obsessed with, then they would not want to lie, or deny basic facts. If you have principles, you don't want to deny basic facts.
>>541659131No I remember you from another thread and I asked you what you wanted from me and you said to vote and organize so I said I would vote NDP next election which is the left wing party here in Canada. I'm not gonna organize though because I can't be arsed to do that and it's asking too much of me but I can vote NDP
>>541659296Can you provide any actual proof for your argument (that literally goes against the definition of fascist economics) or are you going to keep being a retard and acting as if you argue in good faith? Come on, pull an actual article out to back up your claim.You accuse me of the very thing that you are doing.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution%20of%20FiumeGo and read this, you obtuse kike.
>>541659379Here's the actual historicity of nazi economics, on top of the fact that everyone can clearly see, with their own 2 eyes, that your politics here on /pol/ exist to distract the public from class politics with manufactured identity politics. And peddle the political interests of the billionaire class, and the republican party which blatantly represents them.
>>541659440Please quit pretending that you, as an adult person involved in politics, don't understand the difference between political propaganda, and the party's actual policies which are implemented, once in power. Please, just quit pretending you don't understand basic things. Your entire platform here, massively, predicates itself upon just pretending not to be able to understand extremely basic facts or concepts. Please just stop. Please just stop.
Every post from these people, on /pol/, is always them just aggressively pretending to be too fucking dumb to understand basic concepts or facts, in order to justify listlessly repeating their canned propaganda and then declaring themselves "the winner". It's unreal. This genuinely is how these propagandists operate, though. I mean, I guess it must work for them? With a few people?
Just let this haughty and disingenuous pseud's thread die.
>>541659460This is a history of the national socialist party, and not their actual economic practices. Does it mention the workers? Yes. Does it mention what the germans actually did with the economy, no. The article's title is a bit misleading. Though on the german part, it is right to say that their industries were sold off to the private sector, while Italy, and indeed other nations post-Great Depression went more in on state-owned industries.
But tell me, how exactly is the current left-wing as is going to actually start establishing a communist state?
>>541659460I will give it to you that you are right in this regard.
>>541654406No "democrat" would ever say anything like that. The average democrat voter is so deep into idpol they adore the rich and despise the working class. They only care about pronouns and trying to make brown people like them. You don't know what either capitalism or fascism are, since you use them interchangeably. The meme could have said "woke is bad because its a distraction from class struggle" but you had to write a textwall instead. Shamefur dispray, back to Eglin with you.
Damn I think he ran out of rupees. Really wished it lasted longer
OP are you still even in the thread?
>>541659696It's 2+2=5, anon. The post above directly discusses nazi economic policies. You just don't want to face the facts, because you don't want to have to acknowledge everything you're writing is bullshit.
>>541659788Thanks yank. I think you got him to ragequit.
>>541659788These are your MSM narratives and misrepresentations of your leftist politics opposition, which are funded by billionaires and peddled by the millions who work for them. In order to turn the public against us.
>>541660026I literally said you were right on that regard, you dumbass.
I'm done. Goodnite, probably. Maybe I'll make another thread later on. Argue more with people who obviously don't believe in their own political rhetoric.
>>541654406Op you have some kind of genuine psychological problem. You can't step outside of your own perspective and understand another person's. You think everyone is just lying to you because you can't grasp the concept that they have DIFFERENT PRIORS which lead to their beliefs being different than yours. It's like you're philosophically retarded. I've never seen anything quite like it.
Good night OP, you'd fit in with the nordestinos in my countru.
>>541660049I think you spoke too soon, fren.>>541660068You can talk about what leftist politics should be, but what are they in practice? Pronouns, open borders, etc.
>>541654406>Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they’re in good companyThis is what happened to 4chan; all the intelligent people have moved on and it's these malicious retards that remain, trying to reason with them is futile. The only thing left to do here is laugh at them and their racist and bat shit crazy bullshit. The rest of this site is probably a mix of Federal Agents looking for chomos and crazy schizos or sociopaths about to go on a spree, the rest are porn addicts and bot campaigns spreading propaganda.The site died a decade ago and is just a rotting corpse full of maggots. I only returned recently after a 10 year absence and will probably be leaving for good soon and getting back to hobbies I enjoy, In the meantime I guess this place was a cheap distraction in a macabre sense, but it's time to move on.
>>541654406>im not racistso then you are delusionalthere are racial differencesacknowledging those makes you “racist”not acknolwedging them makes you “anti racist”but, race differences are real make no mistake about thatwhats being discussed is the willingness to speak about thisdespite the cultural headwinds against race realismso basically, if you are considered “racist”you are evaluating reality correctlyits as simple as that
>>541662120additionally the basis of empathy is in group vs out group recognitionthus, races will always be sympathetic naturally to their ownall that “anti racists” accomplish is getting whites to self isolateand seek alliances with non whites while non whitescontinue their tribal behavior“anti racism”is just a tool to get whites to racemix and accept jews deracinating white nationsby using their influence over governments
>>541659643no nigger i decimated your fucking logic faggot ass jewget rekt as you pretend to not be in your thread anymorei fucking nuked your sorry ass “ideas”
>>541654406OP clarifies that he isn’t racist, revealing what he thinks about /pol/. Regardless, he decides to make his thesis. He thinks he’s being clever by reverting the mass migration narrative on its head, blaming the rightists’ self-destruction of which they’re blind to.He equates fascism and capitalism. This confusion displays his Marxist thinking, in addition with comments about class warfare.What’s interesting is that in his post he presents the previous critiques of his debating style. Ironically, his replies in thread had been cryptic and non-collaborative. Instead of clarifying he accuses the Brazilian anon of being brainwashed. It would seem that OP has this secret knowledge that no one is privy to. He claims his sources are obvious, and when prompted to provide evidence, he produces an encyclopaedia Britannica article. As part of his circular reasoning he claims that any deviation from his point of view is heresy. These evil forces have supplanted all domains of thought. Every issue has the approved argument for the average American. We must hide from the light as it’s too bright for us. Only you OP can handle it, as it’s a veritable opium of the people.You complain that the rhetoric has gotten lazy, but you have provided nothing productive and have just reiterated the same bunch of messages.I have never met anyone like you anon. I suspect you are a troll practicing some satirical vision of what a modern Marxist may be. Your portrayal is incredibly terrible.
