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>>541662581
promises, promises.
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>>541662581
honestly the twitterfags have a point. Why would I not want free food or free healthcare? Do you guys really like paying for things instead of getting them for free?
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>>541663388
Because there's no free lunch. The problem with voting for Republicans is that they promised to put Americans first, lower prices and pay down the debt and haven't done any of that.
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>>541663591
>Because there's no free lunch.
Israel sure seems to eat for free.
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>>541662581
America needs better choises. How hard is it to create a party that contains the best of both? Just skip the radical part from both path dem and rep.
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>>541663591
Stealing is free and stealing from the thieves that stole our future is righteous retribution.
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>>541663785
Not free, we're the ones paying for it, which is why none of the things that were promised are getting done even though we have all three branches (for a few more months)
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>>541663591
kikes will pay and you hate it
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>>541662581
You can promise free everything, even unicorns. That doesn't mean it will happen. What is the real cost of all that "free" stuff. People in prison have everything provided to them for free, but no one in their right mind would volunteer to go there.
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>>541662581
another cycle, another vote for hitler
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>>541663856
how the fuck are we going to make them pay?
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>>541662581
Fuck no and even my boomer dad who has voted GOP every election since the 80s is sitting this one out because he got redpilled on the jews and hates Trump now lol
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>are you going to vote for these jew slaves?
>or are you going to vote for THESE jew slaves?
I'm not going to vote, same as every other year.
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>>541663908
I didn't know it was possible to redpill a boomer on the JQ.
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>>541662581
Democrats are still all about gay race communism so I simply won't vote for them.
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>>541663949
It took all of 9 years to get there, but better late than never.
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Republicans are trying to sell me what they already sold me back in 2016.

Fuck em.
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>>541662581
So I live in rural PA and there is an actual nazi on my ballot. And also a republican who is not endorsed by AIPAC. I'll cast votes in support of both of those guys, and i'll abstain from a few votes, and write in Kanye for president then naruto run back to my car.
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>>541664024
They jewed you down a little because it was "deport them all" back then and now it's just "mass deportations" and they've arbitrarily decided that 400k deportations per year meets that criteria.
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>>541664024
I wish I could fast forward to 2027 when Vance starts campaigning to see what he will even say. What the fuck will be his pitch?
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>>541662581
No fucking point. Fucked either way.
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Retardicans didn’t deport as many non-whites as they should’ve especially from liberal states despite controlling all 3 branches and ignoring judge defiances. So no, they don’t deserve any of the votes. Could’ve been an easy win if they had just done that, especially since a lot of non whites vote demos but I guess they’re too traitorous for their own good then
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>>541663850
Why can’t we just stop paying for Israel to have healthcare and hunt muslims for sport and spend it here? You know, actually put America first?
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>>541662581
>Democrats: Everyone gets free niggers!
What do republicans even have to offer at this point?
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>>541663877
> Having competent regulatory agencies and a public option for healthcare is basically the same as being in a maximum security prison bro

This is why you’re gonna get gaped in the midterms. You have absolutely nothing to offer except promising that obnoxious libshits will keep crying on twitter.
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>>541664117
That's a question for Donald Trump because had he done that, he could have kept his campaign promises and republicans wouldn't be about to get crushed in the midterms.
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>>541664147
Free jeets
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I had voted for Trump three times and what had guaranteed that I will never vote for him or anyone allied with him again was what he did to Thomas Massie.

And then insult to injury what the fuck is even going on with that dumb cunt he endorsed recently.

Bruh im rooting for iran at this point we look so weak and retarded.
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>>541664160
The MIGA apologists entire argument is that Harris would have been just as bad and that on the whole, republicans are less terrible than democrats.
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>>541663591
We pay for the lunch of isreal, Mexico, India, blacks, and all color of illegal.
White Americans need to come first.
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>>541662581
no clearer example that the DSA is a republican op than these faggots simping for them because they know the quickest way back to power and control of the govt is helping Democrats elect crazy DSA communists that want to abolish the police, abolish prisons and have open borders, while pretending they just want healthcare lol
WHY IS THE GRIFTER THAT HELPED TRUMP COVER UP THE EPSTEIN FILES GETTING TWEETED AT BY THE CONGRESSMAN WHO LED THE CHARGE OF TRYING TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES, strange innit
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>https://youtu.be/uPVMPjX1lSY
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>>541664160
I think we'll be alright, those in charge of the dnc don't play fair in their internal elections, most of the dsa types are having their elections "fortified", I don't really believe in voting anymore, the powers that be are doing stuff beyond my comprehenstion, some of it good, some of it bad, but if you think voting will stop them you are a fool.
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>>541663949
Similar experience, fox news became too heavy handed to where even a slight red pill lets boomers get there. They have rabbis on like every day, even boomers know thats odd.
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>>541663388
> lol @ thinking Whites are getting the free stuff too
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>>541664109
Just like tipping culture in the US, Americans will never free themselves from this 2-party system until everything breaks down. The kikes are playing you like a fiddle and cattle you from one side to the other. Everyone around the world will be dragged down when this happens and the people in power already prepared the next crisis to either cull us in war, killing as much men as possible, fearing resistance and flood cuntries with low IQ, low standard people, who do not disobey.
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>>541663388
you are delusional if you think any normal, hetero, cis white man is going to get any benefit, you will be taxed more (directly or indirectly)
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I really wish we had a party whos position was bombing iran and universal healthcare and jobs for everybody
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>>541664272
Who cares what they think. The pied piper strategy didn't work for hillary, it's not gonna work for the Republicans.
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>>541664691
Vote for a bloodthirsty president, and a progressive Congress. Simple as
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>>541663591
>free
free here is relative, its like how 'free energy' means 'energy that you dont have to pay for because you are extracting it passively from the zero point field, magnets, the sun, etc. Not because you have broken thermodynamics.

Free healthcare means that instead of getting gouged by the occlusive over complicated maze of middlemen that is our current healthcare system with hidden prices and secret deals, we have the massive collective bargaining of a single universal system that is paid for by taxes, thus cutting prices by 30, 40, even 50% (i assume 30 as a starting point because we already know medicaid can cut prices by 20% and thats just state level bargaining power, imagine federal).

I know people dont like taxes on principle and to a certain extent it feel nicer to maybe have to pay a little more out of pocket if it means you can just opt out entirely, but at the end of the day the money has to come from somewhere and people are paying for it regardless, so why not make things more or less everyone pays for enjoy collective bargaining advantage?

Ive been on both expensive 'cadilac' private insurances and californias medicaid, medi-cal. medi-cal was less hassle, less headaches, fewer surprises, no annoying phone calls, and the same quality of care and i have a chronic condition and need to see specialists and stuff. Its also 20% cheaper somehow, despite whatever fraud and government bureaucracy is eating up its funding.

Give gavin newsome all our money and he will objectively run healthcare better than it currently is.
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>>541663850
>>541664117

People like this are the literal reason why I will always support Israel
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>>541662581
If I bother voting I will but it's gonna be a red wave regardless and so on for every election after.
The democratic party and American liberalism are dead.
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>>541662581
yes im voting Republican cause its a lesser evil
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Pure Conservatives know that universal healthcare is much more cost effective and thus support it.
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>>541665234
This
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>>541665234
A true conservative would never support anything that makes live better for the average person. That would be progress, hence progressive and therefore bad.
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>>541663796
America doesn't deserve better choices.
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>>541662581
part of me wants to straight ticket the democrats for the first time since my shitlib days in the early 2010s

part of me suspects nothing's going to change even if the democrats win
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>>541662581
I'll vote against Talarico because that clown gives off major pedo vibes but that's it.
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>>541665234
devil's in the details. a hybrid model like the most competent asian healthcare systems would be ideal.
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>>541662581
I’m crossing the border 14 times to vote for Trump
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>>541665812
Eh, paxtons one of the most corrupt fucking politicians there is. I'll take talarico.
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>>541662581

>free food
>free healthcare
>world peace
>technological retardation

I just love how this guy frames it as if any of those things are cheap/free to obtain. Just a sign of how gullible this generation has become.
Never mind the history lesson of yesteryear, and all the sacrifices that humanity has had to make to get to this point. We've become so lethargic that we literally wallow in our own crapulence and have been reconditioned to believe to achieve with the lowest effort possible.

It is truly the most debilitating disease of our time, but for this generation it is a virtue that we strive towards.
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If you vote for me, I'll give you unlimited money and a robot wife that fellates you 24/7.
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>>541662581
Its funny they leave the "ayo kill dem white mans and rape all they wimenz" out of their political messaging.
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>>541666268
He's not saying they can or will deliver. He's saying that's what they're offering, and that it sounds appealing to retards. What are the Rs offering? Trump fucked up so bad it's unreal with this Iran bullshit.
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>>541662581
That's cute. The faggot still believes vooting actually affects who becomes the president. My god Americans are fucking dumb.
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>>541662581
>DSA is offering free food free healthcare
Yes but what are they offering people from this country
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>>541666498
Also free food and free healthcare
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>>541666437
You think there's a presidential election this year?
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>>541666268
You seem to have missed the point entirely…
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>>541665007
October 7th was funny as fuck and everyone agrees you deserved it. I hope China gives Iran nukes to put Pissrael in its place, AM YISRAEL CHAZIRIM
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>>541664181
We all know the reason is that mossad has videos of him fingerfucking kids that they’ll leak if he doesn’t play ball.
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>>541665812
>I'll vote against Talarico because that clown gives off major pedo vibes but that's it.
His opponent literally gave a jewish child rapist 30 days in jail and no sex offender registration
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>>541664241
I might have agreed with that ten years ago, nowadays it’s obvious that miggers are objectively the most retarded incompetent faggots to ever govern. Democrats are incompetent and do nothing effective to solve our spiraling problems, but miggers seem committed to actively making everything worse and accelerating collapse.
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>>541664702
>Who cares what they think. The pied piper strategy didn't work for hillary, it's not gonna work for the Republicans.
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>>541664287
Honestly I just want to watch miggers seethe and bitch and moan when they lose. Own the miggs, migger tears, etc.
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>>541666084
>>541666815
Still voting Paxton and not the radical left rainbow flag "Christian" fruitcake you faggot shills.
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>>541666878
We know, pedo
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>>541666855
Or you guys could try it and see where it gets you. Who am I to judge
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>>541666815
Miggers will never respond honestly to shit like this.
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>>541666878
Yeah, when I think radical left, I think some middle of the road Christian.
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>>541666878
So you support clemency Israeli pedophiles? That seems to be the only thing miggers are interested in these days.
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>>541662581
I'm going to waste my vote on the Libertarians instead. At least they won't disappoint me once they're not in office.
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>>541666961
Can't argue with that logic....
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Republicans are just doing what they do every time they have a full majority pass no legislation outside of a tax cut and wait for the people to toss them out of power
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Bro we are killing shitskins on the daily now

I’ll take the 1$ more gas. Lmfao, faggot
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>>541663591
maybe if you dont spend 666 on jewish wars you could have enough for free food
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>>541667071
That's the plan. The DSA wants to defund Israel.
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>>541666751

that makes it even worse, he's giving the propaganda validity by engaging with the nonsensical notions.
Ok, they're promising a bunch of naive shit that they could never deliver. Politicians have been doing that since they first began to infest the earth. Instead of reminding people that these are hopeless ambitions and lies sold to gain your vote, he's now demanding the republicans do the same in order to win the vote.

It is a despicable rhetoric. To me it amounts to the same as capitulation.
>If we can't beat them, join them.
It is that same flawed logic that will see democrats win back seats of power despite having been unmasked and shown just how deranged their party can be if left uncontested.

My comprehension is fine, you guys aren't seeing the implications of his poorly reasoned statement.
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>>541662581
Imagine actually still voting after how many times you have been screwed. Voting serves no purpose except a signal of consent.
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>voting for it
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>>541664923
You're retarded. To pay for that free healthcare you're going to be paying 40% or more in income per year for it, even if you don't use it. So say for example that you wish to avoid paying $20,000 in medical costs before insurance covers the expenses, but you agree to pay $20,000 a year in taxes to mitigate this. A possible one time fee vs the same annual fee.

This is why Europeans, and (You) are legitimately retarded.
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>>541667085
The logic was fine when the shoe was on the other foot. The justification for all your hypocrisies over the last decade have literally been, "I can do this because I saw a lib do it once."
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>>541667342

simpleminded us vs them mentalities like that are the reason we're in this low point in our history. And BOTH sides of this argument are equally to blame for it.
I'm just pointing out the shortsightedness of that mentality, I could care less if it offends anyone on either side. It only grows my disdain for the idiots preaching it like gospel.
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>>541663796
>How hard is it to create a party

Is been 250 years, only 2 parties have monopolized the political theater you tell me
Besides, politics are fake and fucking gay
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>>541666899
>Or you guys could try it and see where it gets you. Who am I to judge
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>>541662581
Nope. I regret voting for Trump in 2024. I will never vote for a republican ever again. Democrat policies just make sense when you think about it. They help us grow as a country. Conservatives are always 15-20 years behind liberals.
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>>541667019
The migger is a broken man. Broken by decades of jewish cultural domination. It takes the full human spectrum of emotions to create art, but the migger has only two emotions: sadistic glee at the thought that someone he hates might be upset or suffering, or rage at the thought that they are well and happy.
He does not care for the inherent value of AI generated pictures, he does not claim it has the potential to improve lives or provide resources. He only likes it because it owns the libs. For this singular psychological reward he will give anything. He will sell himself, his family, his home, his mind, and his soul. You can take my livelihood as long as you own the libs. You can pimp my underage daughters out as long as you own the libs. You can leave me shivering in a drainage canal, sewage rushing past my ears, and I will grin in delight as long as the libs are owned.
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>>541667307
>This is why Europeans, and (You) are legitimately retarded.
He says while having the most expensive healthcare on the planet, and worse healthcare outcomes than anyone with a single payer system. Including cuba.
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>>541667697
Cuba had one hospital that they used for propaganda purposes where the conditions weren't nightmare-tier, you absolute moron.
You are not on Reddit.
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>>541667797
>for propaganda purposes
The propaganda of saving someone's life?? Holy shit. That's some good propaganda. Nothing convinces people you're the good guy like saving their life
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>>541667797
> uhm goy, we are akshually slightly better than Cuba
Congrats, I guess.
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>>541662581
If you work for a living, you're fucked either way.
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>>541662581
Only cucks vote.
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>>541662581
The republican party has utterly discredited itself. Then again so has the democrat party. The only way forward for America is to end the two party system and to switch to a proportional voting system. Obviously such a needed change will never materialize within the two party system and its self-preserving instincts. No one who is part of the two party system and benefits from its network of bribes and kickbacks will submit a piece of legislation to negate it. But the closer you look the more this seems like an existential necessity if America is to survive and thrive.
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>>541667797
Cuba is a country that should've collapsed long ago given that it's a besieged island blockaded by the economic and military hegemon who simultaneously tries to engineer a collapse and at the same time points the finger and shouts: look at the product of socialism! Same with Iran.

If your overlords were really convinced that their models were inferior and set to implode, they wouldn't need "containment", or to go to great lengths to try an engineer collapse by means of economic warfare.
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>>541668441
>The only way forward for America is to end the two party system and to switch to a proportional voting system
Not happening. Your fellow citizens are sheep in a very irredeemable way. If it ain't red or blue, it's never gonna make it.
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>>541663388
The last time they promised free healthcare they raped and gaped the entire country
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>>541664108
"You're a tranny if you don't vote for me." And he'll get 49.8% of the vote
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>>541667443
>And BOTH sides of this argument are equally to blame for it.
No faggot. One side offered up lame politicians that don't have good ideas. The other side offered up a retarded scamster who told you he was going to put tariffs on everyone (thus raise prices). If you believed in any of his less retarded promises, then you're a complete moron because the guy has been scamming people his whole life. He was going to scam you if you voted for him.

Your ">both sides equally bad" is just an excuse to not do any real thinking. There's a difference between bad and worse, only idiots can't see it.
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>>541667696
Lib derangement syndrome
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>>541668896
Yeah but where'd he lie?
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I sure the fuck am.
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If they manage to pass the Save America Act then that alone would be enough to vote for them. If they don't pass it, it won't matter who I vote for because the Democrats in my state will just rig the election anyway. It's incredible that they seem unable to pass it.
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>>541662581
>AI surveillance centers
>tripling the national debt
>broken pools
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>>541669297
Well mcconnell is brain dead, so they're missing some votes
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>>541663388
>free
lol, lmao even
honestly hope you get what you wish for
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>>541669494
>lol, lmao even
You know what he means. Significantly cheaper healthcare through collective bargaining.
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>>541663591
Only for Billionaires and Israel tho
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>>541664117
Foreign aid to Israel is only like 1% of the absolutely behemoth cost that healthcare for all would be.
Israel should never get another penny from the United States, and every single federal dollar that goes to insurance companies should be taken away as well, but comparing the two is kind of pointless in terms of scale.
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>>541669637
And the absolute behemoth cost that is healthcare would still be less than what we're paying already for healthcare
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>>541667861
The propaganda of Communism working in any way whatsoever, you moron.
>>541668463
We didn't economically contain the USSR, and it still collapsed. In fact the US had to constantly give it food aid because communism sucks at food production.
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>>541663388
Please be a shill, because otherwise people who really believe that horseshit are so fucking retarded.
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Probably never.
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>>541662581
Of course there's no way I'm ever voting Dem again. Not after what they did last time.
It's a trash party with rampant fanboys pushing it.
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>>541669859
As I said, a hospital saving a life is pretty good propaganda. You save someone in dire straits, they will sing your praises forever.
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>>541670151
Well that's nebulous. What'd they do last time?
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>>541670172
As I said, the Cuban "healthcare" system was very poor, outside of a single hospital they used to gaslight the world, you dumb fucking breadtuber.
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>>541670262
And yet, statistically cuba has better health outcomes than the US. And we pay more than anyone in the world for it.
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>>541670346
>Source my fucking enflamed asshole
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>>541670346
According to what? Anti-US propaganda purely on the basis of whether going to the hospital costs money upfront? Only you retards could be dumb enough to think a country with African-tier healthcare is actually better than the US.
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>>541670346
Holy shit it's true. Lmao, this country is a joke.
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>>541670460
I'm just saying we can do better

https://pnhp.org/news/cuba-has-better-medical-care-than-the-u-s/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3464859/
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>>541670632
Again, only you retards could be dumb enough to believe Cuba has better healthcare than the US.
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>>541670693
You don't think a system where the motive is profit could be worse than a system where the motive is healthcare?

Ok bud. It's not like we have an entire insurance industry standing between you and your doctor, dictating what kind of care you get based on profit margins
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>>541662581
Nope. I think I'll just call in sick at work and jerk off to loli hentai all day. It's a better use of my time than filling out a ballot that'll just give a red or blue kike more power.
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>>541663856
>kikes will pay
It's adorable you believe that.
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>>541670802
Again, you have to be a retard to believe in this horseshit. You've never been to a Cuban doctor, or an American one. All you know is stupid ideological bullshit.
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>>541670942
I have numbers.

You don't even have that. All you've got is "trust me bro"
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>>541670996
Numbers are easily faked. Go into any major hospital in the US, and tell me it's somehow worse than one in a country that can't even keep it's fucking lights on.
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>>541664117
I don't even ask for Healthcare, Id be happy with a high speed low cost train connecting most major cities in the US, wait, we have niggers and white guilt.
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>>541671048
>Ignore the numbers
>Just look at it and guess how good the healthcare is
Yeah, that seems like a legit way of doing things.
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>>541671210
That's what you're doing. You're believing actual propaganda disguised as data. Do you really think a US hospital is worse than a Cuban one? You can only do that because you've never been to an American hospital, because you're likely some college kid with no life experience.
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>>541670188
So, you don't remember Biden?
OK then.
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Democrats always get so touchy when you tell them you're still not voting for their gay nigger party even though you dislike Republicans.
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>>541662581
The 50 year mortgage thing should be setting of alarms everywhere
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>>541671505
I've had so-called "Republicans" do the same to me when I said I wouldn't vote Dem. Old GOP/Neo-cons are currently in bed with Dems over Trump. Trump might be a massive Jew golem, but he's not uniparty. I see the GOP getting a superdelegate system in the future to prevent another populist uprising from happening ever again.
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>>541663388
>>541662581

Massie is just being level headed. He knows the republicans are about to get wopped in the mouth.
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>>541662581
>are you going to vote republican
FUCK no. anti-israel dems are where its at
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>>541663850
Yup that is all it is.
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>>541671280
>>541671280
>Do you really think a US hospital is worse than a Cuban one?
Never been to a Cuban one. Neither have you. We're both guessing at this point, which is what the numbers are there to objectively measure for us.
>believing actual propaganda disguised as data.
You think the NIH is publishing propaganda?
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>>541671417
Yeah. What about him.
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>>541662581
Of course - in spite of all the crap, they're the only ones keeping out millions of more brown scum. That's Trumps every other issue.
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>>541671705
You have to be an absolute fucking idiot to think a country that is still driving cars from the 1950s has better healthcare than the US. Why? Because it's "free'? And yes, I do believe the NIH is full of shit.
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>>541671718
Democrat with 100% Democrat policy.
Terrible. 0/10.
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>>541671727
Whatever. All you've brought me is "trust me bro". And I don't. I'm not gonna take your word about a hospital you e never been to. I'll take the numbers over trust me bro any day.
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>>541662581
Yeah
Becuase humans deserve republican oppression
I am a sadomasochist and I LOVE punishment and oppression.
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>>541664181
There was a hilarious video of rubio hegseth and trump sitting on a panel talking about problems with whatever fucking international court. And rubio was going on and on. Then trump just blurts out, paraphrasing here:

>they don't want to get me ha ha. He's (rubio) not doing this to protect me. He is doing this to protect bibi however ha ha
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>>541664108
>Newsom will attack Turkey if he wins! No new wars!
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>>541664235
Massie seems like one of the only americans in the republican party.
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>>541662581
I would never vote for a democrat.
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>>541671781
>t. Commies when they love their system of institutional slavery
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>>541671757
Holy shit. It's almost like the global supply chains collapsed for some mysterious reason.



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