Liberals are trying to make child porn illegal. Go figure
lolichads won
>>541679252Oh look another reason to hate AI.
>>541679252Child porn is bad. idk how trying to make artificial CSAM illegal is somehow bad.
>>541679252You lost, migger.
Jews did this
>>541679252On one hand, it's not real child porn therefore there's no victims. On the other, how is he training the AI models in the first place? It can't all be petite models, even petite women have significantly wider hips than children.
>>541679318https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFqICZpNFk
>>541679404I meant to type "legal", as in liberals are trying to make child porn legal.
>>541679318Lolicon content and AI CSAM is different imo. Lolicon content is often based off of adult porn, while AI CSAM samples real child porn, thus perpetuating the system and industry.
>>541679252>Pls chud, the literally purely generated data identifies as a child so it is a child!
>>541679252Now these are really smart posts OP.
>>541679462Insanely bad typo, Freudian slip
>>541679252I like how the paid interest groups that flood this dying site have arguments loaded either way for these things. If the ruling is pro 1A>republicans want to make cp legal! Loli is cp!Anti 1A>republicans want to stifle free expression! Loli isn't CP! Overreach!
>>541679519If I say "water" you're probably going to think "wet" whether you want to or not. Unless you're saying I'm a pedo. In which case neck yourself tranny.
>>541679614I’m saying you’re a pedo, and just acting like you aren’t. shouldn’t tell people to kill themselves over a simple accusation, shows overzealous defensiveness, maybe because you’re guilty?
>>541679477ok karen
>>541679726Yes it's a common leftist tactic to accuse conservatives of being pedophiles.Now look at who is actually doing the grooming and raping. It isn't the White man.
>>541679769Ad Hominem argument
>>541679800The white man is absolutely still doing the raping, are you stupid?
>>541679252This reminds me of picrel
why are normalfags so hysterically butthurt about sea pea?
>>541679800>it isnt the white man
>>541679252How are they training these models? Where are they getting the source material? Are they trying to tell us that it has full unfettered access to the pentagons servers?
>>541679947What could’ve been the original context of this photo. Like without the text, was she caught selling fent?
Why do miggers love the csam ruling so much? You’d think they just helped the Jews or something
>>541679252how did they train the AI models to generate it without breaking the law?
>>541679952They don’t care, it’s just a socially acceptable outlet for primitive monkey brain aggression. If we lived in the Middle Ages it would be witches. If we lived in 1900s Russia it would be kulaks
>>541679477LLMs don't need to sample real cp to produce it, just like they don't need to sample you naked to be able to undress a photo of you. Even if they did, the crime then would be comitted by the company who trained their model using cp.
>>541680139true
This should really beg the question of how the AI was trained to generate such imagery. It had to get the information from someone, so whomever trained it should be under investigation. Also, why allow such image generation to begin with? The program can be stripped of such generating abilities, and anyone subverting that would be an obvious investigation candidate.
>>541679252They also tried to push for the rights of MAPS they are utterly demonic.
>>541680279>>541680123You don't have to train it to do that. You have it trained on what a kid looks like. You have it trained on what sex looks like. Both things are completely legal. AI can swap characters in scenes. AI also interprets well. And what is drawn can be made realistic. In-painting, image editing, compositing.
Why should the government have any control of what I use AI for? Might as well make drawings of kids illegal too. Depictions of violence should be outlawed too. We can't be encouraging murderers with realistic violent video games.
>>541679477That's not how gen AI works. You people are so fucking stupid. There doesn't need to be any actually abuse material in the training data to create fake csam stuff.
>>541680383But what if the child was an illegal alien? Checkmate, moralist
>>541679947nyanpasu~
>>541680627Hey idk, im just saying what I know, I might be wrong (honestly I probably am) and just giving the info I know.
>>541679252The real reason is that 100% of white males are pedophiles, enforcing the law would cause every white store owner, cop, fireman, worker, taxi driver, IT consultant, doctor, office worker, engineer, dentist, politician, influencer, etc etc. get jailed overnight, there's not enough jails for all of them. Same reason why they had to relax Marijuana possession.
>>541680684
>>541680860Blacks are about twice as likely to be sex offenders in the United States compared to whites. Look it up
>>541679252Seems like an easy backdoor to kill off data center deployment.To protect children you have to get rid of ai
>>541679252you mean whites
I have a theory. I'm willing to bed the demand for real CP will/has dropped with easily accessible AI CP. I also have a theory that the FBI wouldn't like this. Reason being, if an offender isn't taking photos/sharing in communities because there's no demand, it's going to be harder to catch him. Not to mention how many abusers they've caught simply because of possession.No telling the long-term consequences of AI will be, good or bad.
>>541679404it had to be trained on something
>>541681071This has already been explained in the thread several times, retard, pay attention. Did you think those youtube AI shorts of a bunch of Gorillas on an airplane wearing a pink tutus was made by an AI model trained on Gorillas wearing them?
>>541679404Because it's quite literally just drawing a picture of people who don't even exist.CSAM was always illegal on the basis that its creation, by definition, involved child abuse. Here, there are no people involved, its a drawing.Laws against porn in general and obscenity also always focused on displaying it or distributing it commercially, and for good reason - otherwise every private sext between a married couple would be a felony, which is absurd.Here in those case neither apply, it is not even being distributed privately nor does it involve real people. It is, quite literally saying "it should be illegal to draw a picture that I think is icky". If you cannot see why that is an incredibly dangerous legal precedent to set then you are mentally retarded beyond all help.That said, I don't know what the solution is here. From a purely emotional and instinctual level there's something viscerally wrong with the concept of such material existing, so I can't blame knee-jerkers too much, and any suggestion of just letting it go *feels* wrong. But from a logical and historical perspective? The "cure" is orders of magnitude worse than the disease, for example see how well intentioned but myopic and retarded boomercons are basically banning all internet anonymity everywhere via age verification. Porn bad, therefore upload your drivers license to Discord.
>>541680753it's what you think, not what you know, since you are wrong.
>>541679458>there's no victimsThe people that consume it.
>>541681238You might be a faggot with hypogonadism. You are posting on a board created to promote loli porn for free speech absolutism. That is what the -chan in 4chan stands for. A Japanese honorific for a cute little girl. Get a blood test.
>>541679800>I'm not a pedophile I only jerk of to images that depict the idea of children getting fuckedI hate you faggots so much
>>541681238It's refreshing to see someone else with an equally mature stance on the situation. Things aren't black and white, and I don't like jumping to conclusions. You pretty much summed up my belief on things. I don't have the answer, or even a full opinion. While I don't want to use the phrase necessary evil, it's one of those things I don't want used to destroy my rights in the name of saving non-existing victims. People are sheep that will give themselves up for slaughter if told their meat is feeding the poor.
We stand with Epstein.Fucking kids triggers the libs.
People never talk about how this affects other potential laws regarding AI. This is the dam keeping (((the government))) from making pretty much anything you do with AI tools illegal.
>>541681446Then wouldn't it be treated like a drug addiction?
>>541681071I've seen realistic AI videos of lions, bears, and snakes giving blowjobs. What were they trained on?
The downside of AI porn is that as it evolves its going to get hard to know if its real or not. Its going to make it hard for investigators to know if someone has real illegal materials or if its just AI slop.
>>541681527>if you don't like CP you are gay with a small dickYou know what? You've changed my mind. I now support warrantless searches by secret police of all computers followed by summary execution of the owner if even clothed anime loli is found on them.
>>541681788And this is a very good point. You could even go one step further. What if abusers use AI to slightly alter it, giving it AI artifacts or mistakes, while keeping it mostly in tact? I'd definitely say we're living in the disinformation age. Shit's going to get crazy in the next 20 years. Invest in any tech regarding authentication and verification. I could see everything in our lives having some kind of chip or QR code.
>>541681801>I'll just be a tyrant because I can't control my fee fees! It was okay when mummy did it to me! That'll show them! Convert or die! What about the keedz! Mummy wouldn't like that!Keep proving your side more and more wrong with each hysterical schoolmatron outburst. Tyrants are always crushed, especially maternal-feminist ones.
>>541681801Notice how the schoolmatron fag with women's fee fees has no problems posting on a loli board that stands for free speech with loli porn.
>>541679252>Liberals are going to make CP legal.One of the men in Flordia pushing for the death penalty for peds raped his 5 year old grandson.Lets see if they execute him since they passed that law today.
>America is making drawings illegal Literally 'my feelings were hurt let's throw away the constitution ' Even though the age of consent in America was like 12 a couple of years ago
>>541679462You right wingers are so fucking stupid. Lay off the crack and black dick and go back to school loser!
>>541679477If only you could read then you might not be mad about things!
This also gives a pathway for defense attorneys to argue that real CP is AI generated and the child depicted simply resembles their niece.
>>541679952Because they hate seeing anyone being too happy. They call it soul corruption and shit, they're that deluded and self righteous
>>541682185>America is making drawings illegalOP's story is suggesting the opposite.
>>541679318>ImplyingYou will be legally allowed to make AI porn of random kids on the street before you will be allowed to import a onahole with loli on box
they all had sex in the single digits anywaynothing should make you angrier than when you realize that der boomergoyim actually had better sex lives than anyone born after 1990. They didnt have apps. Texting bs. Cheating had consequences.and they all actually WERE having sex as teens and tweens THATS WHY THEY HATED US they assumed we all were too. lmao I didnt jack off til 13 and played vidya all day long I wasnt getting laid lolBoomers simulataneously projecting jealousy that they cant fuck anymore, but also projecting filth like we werent like you, we had hobbies and consequences were dire if a girl rescinded consent or spread rumor. They did this to us, an invisible omnipresent cultural Rape.
>>541682839>before you will be allowed to import a onahole with loli on boxCan do that in California right now though
>>541679252get your government hands off my child pornography
>>541682865>they all had sex in the single digits anyway>nothing should make you angrier than when you realize that der boomergoyim actually had better sex lives than anyone born after 1990. They didnt have apps. Texting bs. Cheating had consequences.>and they all actually WERE having sex as teens and tweens THATS WHY THEY HATED US they assumed we all were too. lmao I didnt jack off til 13 and played vidya all day long I wasnt getting laid lol>Boomers simulataneously projecting jealousy that they cant fuck anymore, but also projecting filth like we werent like you, we had hobbies and consequences were dire if a girl rescinded consent or spread rumor. They did this to us, an invisible omnipresent cultural Rape.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSNDNn9FTwA
>>541683796>>they all had sex in the single digits anyway>>nothing should make you angrier than when you realize that der boomergoyim actually had better sex lives than anyone born after 1990. They didnt have apps. Texting bs. Cheating had consequences.>>and they all actually WERE having sex as teens and tweens THATS WHY THEY HATED US they assumed we all were too. lmao I didnt jack off til 13 and played vidya all day long I wasnt getting laid lol>>Boomers simulataneously projecting jealousy that they cant fuck anymore, but also projecting filth like we werent like you, we had hobbies and consequences were dire if a girl rescinded consent or spread rumor. They did this to us, an invisible omnipresent cultural Rape.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGJTaP6anOU
>>541683831>>>they all had sex in the single digits anyway>>>nothing should make you angrier than when you realize that der boomergoyim actually had better sex lives than anyone born after 1990. They didnt have apps. Texting bs. Cheating had consequences.>>>and they all actually WERE having sex as teens and tweens THATS WHY THEY HATED US they assumed we all were too. lmao I didnt jack off til 13 and played vidya all day long I wasnt getting laid lol>>>Boomers simulataneously projecting jealousy that they cant fuck anymore, but also projecting filth like we werent like you, we had hobbies and consequences were dire if a girl rescinded consent or spread rumor. They did this to us, an invisible omnipresent cultural Rape.
>>541679458>On the other, how is he training the AI models in the first place?Just because an AI can give me a picture of Elon Musk in a miniskirt does not mean it was trained on pictures of Elon Musk in a miniskirt. AI understands how to compose new images out of familiar ingredients.
>>541679458AI training data has more CP in it than anyone could possibly imagine. It's likely at least 50% cp.
>>541679252>liberals
>>541679404OP is a troon faggot making a ragebait thread.The ruling is meant to protect AI companies from being misused.
>>541679477That's not true. Neither are true. Lolicon artists trace cp and cp isn't in training data
>>541684042Nice cherry-picking retard.
>>541683867>it has images of miniskirts>it had images of elon musk>it can produce images of the two combined>it has images of naked childrenIt can now produce images of naked children.
>>541681576I'm not a "lolicon". I want anime to be banned fully, not just for its pedophilic tones either, though that's a big part.
>>541684379Or maybe it has naked adults and clothed children and it can figure it out.Also not all images of naked children are illegal.
>>541681787M-manmade horrors I can't comprehend were trained on soemthitn too... Spoopy
>>541679252EPSTEIN ALREADY RAPED YOUR ONLYFANS WHORES SO WHO CARES???
>>541679252You lost tranny!
>>541679404There should not be any porn depicting sex, particularly sadistic, with students, clergy, children, prisoners, etc....
>>541679252More bread and circus for the goyimObviously it's fucking jews pushing pedophilia
how is it CSAM if it's AI generated? it's like complaining about a cartoon drawing being actual abuse. the original law was written to protect kids from abuse from having more content created. it's not a hill I would die on, but it sure is hypocritical
>>541686519It reinforces the behavior. I always see people trying to write it off as it's just fiction, but this is also the exact same spiral furries and trannies, and yes some lolicons go down before doing the exact thing in real life.
>>541686519The original law was written to stamp out a commercial industry which preyed on children. It didn't anticipate the internet or how easy it would be to exchange illegal images. >>541686631This is the same argument you could use to claim that violent video games reinforce murder. You could make the opposite claim, that being able to act out some behaviours harmlessly makes them less likely in real life. I doubt either point of view has much real life evidence attached.
>>541682839>before you will be allowed to import a onahole with loli on boxBut you can already do that.They were selling loli porn and loli sex toys at anime expo earlier this year in California.
>>541686689Per capita, bitch. Far, far, more people engage in video games without incident. Trannies, furries, lolicons, are all much smaller groups with much higher incidents of engaging in real acts.
>>541679477Bullshit it doesI dislike it but this isnt the uk and the government having any say in art whatsoever is cucked as fuck
>>541686840You can literally buy that shit on Amazon I am living proof Its blurred on the site but oh boy is it great on the box
>>541679252>Liberals are trying to make child porn illegal.Not 'liberals', bureaucrats who will never be fired from their taxpayers funded bully pulpit.The Epstein files have proven that ALL of our overlords are involved.The need 'fake' child porn to be legal so they can claim that all of their real child porn was created by AI and they really didndu nuffin.All of them should hang.
>>541684503anime website stupid nigger. Fuck off
>>541687301Not pictured:The jew who turns the crank
>>541679318let the real villains keep blurring the line and you'll all be on the same sinking ship
This isn't the same thing but what year did you guys notice people come at you for liking fictional women from anime or cartoons? >SHE'S 16 YOU SICK FUCK
>>541680383This, then the AI improved by being told whether what it produced was getting closer or further away from a satisfying result for the human generating it. You don't need a literal racoon on a rainbow wearing a t-shirt picture for AI to reproduce it, it's just going to take each of these elements separately and combine them.
>>541684503>All the male characters are extremely feminineNigger what kind of anime are you watching?
>>541686922There is still a lot of violent crime. We should ban video games and violent movies because it's clearly an encouragement to violence in real life.
>>541679477So are there real cougars that walk on hind legs with tits that want to fuck me hiking?
>>541688807Nigger music is way worse I'm pretty sure they snitch on themselves about all kinds of crimes unless they're lying better ban nigger music
>>541688910Didn't rap music basically disappear after Trump stopped USAID funding?
>>541688935Yes
>>541679800>tactic to accuse conservatives of being pedophiles.>tacticThe Republican president in an open pedophile who's administration just legalized child porn
>>541679252liberals will never again be able to even pretend to have the moral high ground from grooming kids to campaigning to release violent niggers from prison, their policies literally get people killed
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>>541679966How is that category defined for those numbers?
>>541686631If the point of it is to reinforce the behavior and condition people to accept it, then it makes the spread of the content political speech.
>>541679477>>541684138These are both half truths.A small handful of loli art has traced or referenced CP. Most of it does not. Doubly so when that art is rule 34 of some existing loli character. Many artists these days reference existing loli art and try to make their own style, so even if there was a reference down the line, it would be too distant to be clearly identifiable. AI generated art tends to come from models trained on legal photos of children and nude photos of adults, and trying to mix the two. There are some Loras in the wild trained on real CP, but most art is not generated from them.
>>541679395The real reason you hate AI is because it can lock onto human targets and functionally use electrical machinery.
>>541680455Liberals are terrified of the fact that now you don’t have to be the one holding a barrel
>>541682865Boomers are bolsheviks who openly want to murder the white race
>>541679252Early life on the judge?
>>541688120>just let a minority of predatory assholes ruin what you enjoy by association, and stop enjoying it>submit to me and seek my approval instead, so I'll call you a good boyHow about all of you go to hell and I like whatever I want regardless of third party actions? Crime needs to require an injured party, and thought crime and "preventative" social discouragement are fucking bullshit. Go help a real live kid getting his ass kicked, lord knows there are plenty out there. I'm not interested in being your easy go-to villain to feel superior because I'm looking at something you don't like but involves no real child
>>541679252I read this as a trojan horse to escalate the issue up the court system that will inevitably lead to a federal ban on not only AI shit but also ordinary lolicon and whatnot
