Why aren't men stepping up? The fate of Western Civilization depends on you.https://old.reddit.com/r/WomenDatingOverForty/comments/1i8sxvt/yes_we_dont_accept_low_effort_dates_like_walks_or/
step up for what? a drugged up backstabber?
>40>Hoping for kids someday
>>541686393I think we are going through a genetic/demographic bottleneck right now. Many men AND women will die childless and thus getting removed from the genepool
>>541686393Men are supposedly the autistic gender, but I've never seen them entirely misjudge social scenarios as much as women.
>>541686393>a sub for 40+ women to ensure they remain single till they diecool
>>541686821No way…
What's a high effort date for a 40+ foid anyway? I hate expensive restaurants. I don't like eating out in general. Why should I jump through hoops for a chance of a crumb of worn out pussy?
44? chance of offspring nevermore...
>>541686821Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.
>>541686393Whats funny is that foid would then assume he's lower value than her/desperate if he made plans for a "high effort" date. Are women even self aware?
>>541686821yeah, its called millennials - the failed generation
>>541686393Boomers never had any trouble dating in their 40s, 50s, 60s. They just continue to pair up and split and pair up again until the grave. I wonder why newer generations don't seem to do the same as much
>>541688229Because the women aren't total manhaters.There is this old guy who lives near my parents house. Wife passed away, two widows in the neighborhood are dropping off homemade food for him. Could you imagine a milenial woman ever doing something like that?
>>541686393Spam something else please
>>541688401I dated a woman in her forties a couple of years ago, I don't have social media but after we broke of she paid for a photoshoot and went full girl boss It's a shame, I loved her too but the damage was done. She just wouldn't stop struggling to maintain power, arguing all the time and generally making up problems She loves me but wouldn't submit to the relationship I think, even though she wanted toWas disappointed I wasn't putting her head in the toilet and cheating on her
>>541686393Tom Cruise could ask them to tour a sewerage plant for a first date and most women would say yes. If they're willing to turn you down because its "low effort" then chances are they're not attracted and only interested in your wallet. They will probably just end up cheating on and/or divorcing you anyway.
>>54168822940s 50s and slightly 60s were before sexual revolutionbefore feminism achieved its true form
>>541686393>tfw first date you bring dimethylmercury
>>541686393It doesnt matter to me
>>541686393>walking>low effortsounds to me like you're 200lbs overweight and demanding a trough for the first encounter.No thanks.
>>541686393Because there's no reason/incentive for men to step up, and for good reason. There are zero (0) benefits to being in a relationship with a woman nowadays. All the positive stuff lies in being single.>no nagging>no heartbreak>no STDs>no humiliation rituals>total freedom>saving money>no random dates>have your own schedule>no "tests"You can’t prove me wrong. Have some self-respect, anons.
>>541686393>Ask her over to your house for a romantic home cooked dinner>When she comes over point her towards the spaghetti noodles, sauce, and ground beef and tell her to get cooking>Boot up a game of Helldivers with the boys while you wait
>>541686393Women severely overvalue themselves. The juice ain't worth the squeeze, honey. Take the coffee or fuck off.
where would pol go on a first date? mc donalds?
>>541686393Ahh she's going to die alone because she's an asshole.
>>541688401Millennial women were heavily brainwashed and sabotaged by their own mothers out of jealousy, they feared seeing all those young millennial horny teenagers being hotter so the college was unironically their salvation
Women deserve less
>>541686821It ain't genetic
I was telling two separate old school, real women, European chicks about the dating situation here...They couldn't believe it. One said, why not just invite them to a cup of coffee, the other said to split the bill Lmao
"Low effort dates", they wouldnt be low effort if they put some effort into sucking my dick afterwards
>>541686393Unless you already know the woman, a first date should be coffee. Why even fucking waste all of that money and time on a dinner if you don't click with her? That's the point of an informal coffee, it's a chance to meet the person and sit down and chat for an hour to see if they are even worth wasting anymore time on. I don't want to pay for a dinner and be forced to sit there wasting my time with some bitch that I've decided I don't like within the first five minutes of meeting her.
>>541688611>anything i dont like is spamfuck off
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>>541686393Cool, by dragging reddit filth over here you can demoralize both femcels and incels! You'll get extra izzat for that move.
>>541686393Let it burn. Women and older generations see me as a dispensable object at best. I don't owe them shit. 1. virgin wife who lets me hit it when I want2. house in a non-niggerfied area3. at least the opportunity for kids4. salary that affords healthy food and many amenitiesThese are my conditions. Failing this, I won't lift a finger.
>>541687451Fuck you im lonely you're well poisoning
>>541693229You can get a hooker to give you a blowy or a tugg for like $30. Save yourself an hour or too of having to listen to her talk and just get one of them
>>541693059It's more than being glued to an X-BOX controller is more common, it's more accepted. It's not just because of sex either, it's because there was also the peak of the war on drugs in the 90s (which also overlapped with AIDS), and sitting at home being a nerd turned into "well, at least he's not out doing drugs". It was an over-correction from the satanic panic of the 80s too, it made anti-nerd people look insane and uncool.I'm a nerd, but I can admit that it's just a coping mechanism for being alone. It turns into a feedback loop because you're always at home doing nerd shit, so you don't have a life, and because you don't have a life you get deeper into nerd shit to cope.It used to be that you were likely to get told to go outside or even man up if you were too nerdy, even by your parents. Now you get to play video games before you can even talk.
Foids being petty and bitchy like this have no idea they're actually filtering themselves.
Cool, another thread full of seething jeets who have never seen a vagina IRL.
the internet is obviously fucking women up... a woman over 40 should not need to ask reddit for how to handle basic social interactions. this is getting really embarrassing
>>541693860I would not want a $30 blowy, especially from one of these terrible fat and trashy Canadian hookers (outside of a couple major cities).
>>541686393I have women fatigue, I just can't with these hoes anymore. The west is completely fucked
>>541693901Oh, also, stranger danger.
>what if instead of thinking for myself, I asked women on social media to think for me instead... the Yin bubble is going to do so much damage to feminism. toxic femininity is real
>>541693901>>541694072>go outside>see brown person>day already ruinedi think I'm gonna stay inside and watch anime
>>541693059I mean mass-die offs like this happened a few times throughout history
>>541686393the problem is that women go on too many first dates and everything becomes boring to them
>>541686393Why do people insist on using the humiliation ritual that is the troonder. Just go to a bar/club, pick up a chick and take her home
>>541686393Kek everyone in those threads (op and xis handlers included) are retarded circle jerkers falling for their own pay ops. Its like if /pol/ set up instructions for datingAnd people were dumb enough to take it seriouslyLike op.
>>541693175OP's premise is not widespread.There are a segment of women who do not want a restaurant date and prefer coffee/drink first date.
The fate of McDonald's in north korea after ww3 is in your hands
>>541693059They disenfranchised and pissed off an entire generation of fighting age men.Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't that typically lead to widespread instability and violence?
>>541686893>>541688092ThisIf the guy's a jeet or something sure, but otherwise do they not understand they offer at most zero value over 40?>>541687451>Why should I jump through hoops for a chance of a crumb of worn out pussy?If anything you should jump through hoops to avoid it.
>>541694870I don't know about Latvia but that kinda thing is a fool's errand here in the states. You go online because women don't take applications in person.>>541695189Typically, but in our instance I really don't know. It might be more of a slump. The men are pacified with porn, drugs and video games. Some have gotten together in online spaces and agreed on the nature of the problems, the creators of those problems and the solutions, but they're alienated from each other in real life. The form of the rebellion and/or collapse may be that everybody just kinda gives up and lets it all fall on the floor.
>>541686393Damn, people who are into relationships and dating are nuts.
>>541686393She's right. If you try to take a woman "on a walk" or to "grab" "a" "coffee," you are a fucking loser. If you think a woman owes you pussy hole because you provided her with a single chain restaurant meal, you are a broke fucking loser and a total faggot. That said, idk why any man would ever ask out any of these vapid brain rotted sluts. Asking them out in the first place makes you a fucking loser.
>>541686393>WomenDatingOverFortyOP.....I......
>>541695764You'd think they'd be glad just to be out of the house.
>>541686393LmaoShe won’t accept me or maybe 95% of anons ITT at allShe can have fun with the bums she thinks are hot. Those felonies mean way more to her than any income or stability
>>541686393>Won't go on cheap dates>womendatingoverforty
>>541688401As you grow older, the man/woman ratio gets lower and lower because men are champs at dying randomly.Once you get old enough, there's so many women your age and most of them are widows, but they still want that good dick so they throw themselves at old fucks.We will all get there, unless we die randomly.
Women who immediately want to go on a date or even demand something off the dates are immediate red flags and not wife material.
>>541693901satanic panic was real tho. Forgot to mention that, did you?
>>541696052>Yes, we dont accept low effort datesalso>over 40>has kids>divorced>fat>only accomplishment is having a jobi'm over 40 and it's just not worth the (((investment))). truthfully they're lucky anyone will talk to them
>>541686393>Dating over fortyLmao, she better buys me a new house if that hags expects me to talk to her
>>541688896Based. I worked at a wastewater plant where the manager would take operator applicants to the bar screen area where the flow first entered the plant. He'd keep them there for a half hour and just talk at them about anything - it didn't matter, they couldn't hear him anyway - they just had to stand there, pretend to understand what he was saying and breathe in the most awful stench they've ever smelled in their lives. He said it was a pretty good indicator as to whether they were operator material.
>>541692628>the problems they have automatically become yours; your problems becoming hers, not so much>and women are the worst when it comes to secondary relationships. You connect with people for various reasons and try to be careful to avoid bad eggs, but you cannot protect yourself from the people already in their lives; and the legendary terrible judgment western women nearly universally exercise from day one creates significant consequences for you in this regard
>>541686393I'm 31, recently got back into dating after working absurd hours for several years.Same thing happens over and over again>quick response to texts, decent dates, obvious mutual interest>ZERO initiative from woman, obviously seeing other guys>Eventually I leave the ball in her court to see if she has any motivation to keep things going....>Move on and start seeing someone else>Old girl reaches out but idgaf anymore>repeatDon't bother bros, they don't get off the carousel at any age
>>541686393if some men would just stop giving these bitches attention the problem would solve itself
>>541697389>obviously seeing other guysThis literally makes it a humiliation ritual. You are the less attractive, but "safe" option, who has to pay for expensive dinners. Meanwhile, right after she hugs you goodbye, she messages Chad for "netflix and chill" at his place. In her mind, this is completely acceptable, because "we aren't exclusive yet."