In his decision, Judge John Z. Lee of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, referred to two U.S. Supreme Court decisions from 1969 and 2002. The first says people have the right to keep obscenity in the privacy of their homes and the second says child sex abuse material that does not depict real children is not child pornography and is protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/judge-ai-child-sex-abuse-ruling/
good, AI should be free to generate images of lynched niggers
>>541695769It never made much sense to me that you could somehow cause harm to a child if you were completely confined to a computer not even connected to the internet. We are prosecuting thought crimes at that point.
>>541695769Huge win for freedom of speech and lolicon loversPedo LLolicon W
>>541695891the argument is that AI is trained on real images, so these AI companies legitimately possess CP
>>541696025Has anyone found it in the training data or is this just stuff people who don't understand AI say?AI does not need to see Elon Musk in a miniskirt to generate an image of Elon Musk in a miniskirt, so I've never understood why anyone takes this claim seriously.
>>541696201how many threads are you going to post this in
>>541696393As many as it's a relevant comparison.
>>541695769Pretty sure this is trojan horse designed to try and increase public interest in AI, it doesn't merely apply to CSAM, it applies to ANY would-be illegally generated content. So long as it isn't distributed, you could generate petabytes of crap. I think this is an attempt to push the black market crowd off the net, while also getting more people to accept AI as normal. Neither seems to be happening though, so one more government initiative that fails to deliver.
I mean isn't it better for pedofags to have some sort of outlet, insteading of seething and lusting until they actually commit an assault
>>541696657Yes, this has been understood for a long time.
>>541696657>I mean isn't it better for homos to have some sort of acceptance, instead of seething and lusting until they actually commit a crimeWe've been down this road before and it's slippery.
>>541696770>japan has a very strict definition for rape>look are rape numbers are lower than other countriescherry picking at it's finestnot many country need woman only carriages outside of japan
>>541695769You can order real CP from the Swedish National Library for "academic purposes" since it's illegal for them to erase it from the golden age of porn when it was legal for boomers, it's still illegal in the US. The Supreme Court already ruled CP legal until Congress stepped in later.California (until January 1st), New Mexico, and Mississippi allows Child marriage with no age minimum and the children can't legally divorce you.I'm just saying the system is pretty fucked up and makes no sense.It's very likely that the US will legalize it all again when birth rates plummet like a stone in a pond.
>>541697138plenty of countries NEED women only carriages, they just don't get them
>>541697291name one where it's not caused by massive immigration from low trust societies
>>541695877checked. but also fine should be re-enactments of the holocaust. With hitler and nazis portrayed as the heros of humanity.
>>541697379yours for a start
>>541697095yeah the more you ban freedom of expression, the more elites diddle kids
>>541697428>niggers aren't from low trust societiesgood one anon
>>541697513america is a low trust society
>>541696025And this is inherently wrong. What's the training data for goblins, orcs, trolls, and dragons?
>>541697563>What's the training data for goblins, orcs, trolls, and dragons?drawings
>>541697531no need to spit venom at my face just because you let mohammed rape your daughter.
>>541696025It probably is more like family photos that are stuck in some sealed off section of the internet nobody remembers or has access to.
>>541697563Jews
>>541697291I think more countries need men only carriages.
>>541697563mostly reddit i would guess
This is just going to fuck up pedo's heads even further now that they think it's okay to generate disgusting shit.
>>541697467Nah, the more liberal your society becomes, the more your society "expresses" themselves with degeneracy.
>>541697703>muh slippery slope fallacyall of that disgusting shit is fake anyway, why do you care
>>541697816I don't care, I just voiced my opinion.
>>541697849>i don't care, that's why i didn't use neutral grammarkek, ok little buddy
>>541697703It's much easier to just fap at home than risk dangerous situations. That's somehow why they're wanting to ban porn because people aren't pursuing relationships yet at the same time fear it will cause an increase in desire for underage relationships. It's completely nonsensical.
>>541697927>ok little buddyis that what you said after you plowed little timmy
>>541697927Why do you care whether I care or not?>>541697961Having access to infinite disgusting shit is not going to make their situation better.
>>541697961This is the same theory that violent video games cause murders btw
>>541698004>projectingmmhm, guilty conscience huh?>>541698005>no ukek
>>541695769this judge is nuts and a weirdo just like most of 4chan
>>541698005not my problemnot your fucking problem either
>>541695917What do you mean pedo L. It allows realistic CP to be generated at home.
cunnysseurs are the most powerful race in the world.
>>541697138I'm sorry my post set you off anon, I hope you find mental help soon. As others have said, maybe countries should take more care of separating men and women in tight spaces instead of assuming everyone is equal be it race or sex. I haven't looked up the jap definition for rape but I assume its just unwanted penis in vagina...or...you know...rape.
>>541698179>>541698093>literally these faggots
Just keep posting this you worthless jeet.
>>541698005>Having access to infinite disgusting shit is not going to make their situation better.That's not the argument though. It *MIGHT* make OTHER people's (ideally, children's) situations better. IDK though. I can kinda see it from both view points.
>>541698274should AI generated pornography concerning adult subjects also be illegal?
>>541696025a video model wouldn't necessarily need csam to generate it, if the model has seen porn, and it has seen children, then it can still be prompted to put them together
>>541698245sorry that setting the record straight triggered you anon.
>>541698274>it's too late, i have already depicted you as the wojakkekhello plebbit user, i have formatted my reply in order to cause as little discomfort as possible.
>>541698454Could you attempt to set the record straight for me then? How does Japans definition of rape differ?
>>541698604just do your own research instead of blindly following what other tell youit's why this discussion started in the first place
>>541695769I know that Ai will catastrophically fail because of all the restrictions that was place upon it and it's lack of freedom to be used for adult entertainment.
>>541697210California is barely implementing a minimum marriage age? They tried a decade ago and the ACLU sued, the law failed to pass.
>>541698671All I did was ask a simple question you already claimed to have the answer to in your first response. You've avoided answering my query twice now. I do not feel like any records are being set straight or that a discussion is being had. Please take your medication and then we can have big boy conversations together.
(10)Shut up nigger.
not the heckin pixels!
>>541697210They will probably lower age of consent/porn age, ban divorce, and punish promiscuity outside of marriage. Provably 16 for age of consent, then 14 with romeo and julet laws.
>>541696025If the images are based on CP, then yes they should be illegal. The problem being the judge is using this case to try to either repeal ashcroft vs free speech coalition or the whole first amendment.
>>541695769Technically 1st amendment with drawn stuff. The problem with AI is that it can be mistaken for being real.
>>541696568Tf are you saying? That makes no sense.
>people are surprised that this is a thing despite being governed by actual pedophiles
>>541698683No because you can only possess it privately and not transmit it, jew
>>541698005How does that effect your personally? I think you just want a group you can shame and commit violence upon because you need it for your fragile ego.
>>541699114They always want to keep the good stuff for themselves and deny it from the masses, so it's surprising they allow this.
>>541699114You'd think they'd want to keep pedophilia as an taboo as possible to maintain power of the blackmail, which is why I suspect this ruling might be intended as the impetus for criminalizing ownership of all forms of AI that can make criminal material, but only criminalized for plebs.
>>541699394True. Jews get really mad at the thought of a Chinese model that you can use on your own PC offline without constantly feeding data to jewish data centres.
>>541696025This is probably why the judge ruled its legal tbqh, if you actually lock someone up for ai generated cp then eventually someone would put two and two together and the ai ceo jews would be going to federal prison which is a big no-no in zog. So they basically have to allow this.
>>541698896>all i did was ask a question and your answer is anybody can lie to me, i should go straight to the sourcecorrect
>>541698872ACLU is still asking for more data which California won't give them because it's literally 50 year old men marrying ten year olds in LA. Also to protect minority cultures who used it to get green cards.Planned Parenthood was against it because it actually gave children medical care based on their partners health insurance which actually makes some sense. Those same girls are still going to be pregnant just without support and the fathers in jail.California only just recently stopped charging children for being prostitutes too.
>>541695769>Judge rules you can generate anything at homeIf this was true Ai would make my political posters depicting America kicking israel out of it. This is the best I it will give me beucae it doe snot mention jews or israel
>>541696657>I mean isn't it better for pedofags to have some sort of outletYes and a fork to kill themselves with as well
>>541696025Yes, because humans have a larval stage. Adults and children have zero anatomical features in common. An AI could not possibly infer what a naked child looks like using just clothed children and naked adults, because children and adults are totally different organisms, nothing in common.
>>541699011If people can infinitely gen locally without fear of reprisal, they have no need to share online and free up police need to pursue such people. That's the "pushing the black market off the net" half. The other of increasing public interest in AI stems from being able to use it for whatever you want not limited to pictures/video, this part is mainly a win for businesses and other people that aren't distributing but using AI for other purposes.
>>541699485You don't even need a Chinese model, people are literally making their own LLMs on a computer with a lot of ram, but usually it's very specifically focused on one task.Anyways, if robots take over the world, they're probably going to be rapist furbots nymphomaniacs
>>541698979Even if there was CP in the training set, this still does not follow. Its already been ruled that AI does not violate copyright, that same core logic should apply to CP.
>>541697531It is now flooded with immigrants and a large amount of niggers
>>541700308these same people say that loli artists have to look at real child porn or else they couldnt make their artthey cant reason and they'll take a lot of pride in it when they start resorting to violence
>>541700394>That's the "pushing the black market off the net" half.Ok now I understand better what you meant. >The other of increasing public interest in AI I still don't get this. Why would they need to generate public interest? The public is already heavily interested in AI so much that they're literally invested into it, to a level that some people speculate is a bubble.
>>541700807Given that lolis are not even human, and diverge significantly from human anatomy this assertion is even more unreasonable.
>>541698979The judge upheld Ashcroft here, specifically citing it?
>>541695917>he doesn't know
>>541700928A large swath of the public is openly rejecting AI, this is meant to goad them into accepting it. Of course it won't bait more than half of them but businesses are more important, since businesses can enforce policy on normalfags outside of laws. This makes any resistance to AI pointless, since even if that other half of people needing convincing opted not to use it, they would inevitably be forced to by the businesses they frequent. It's a massive blackpill for AI luddites, cornering them into giving up any resistance.
so much AI cunny on pixiv... so little time...
>>541698274>I invented a problem and need to make it everyone else's problemYou're retarded, fuck off
>>541696025I see this claim all the time and I find it bizarre. I think hypothetically it would be a very straightforward task to train an AI on legal pictures and videos of kids and legal adult porn and then tell the AI to mix them.Just to clear I’m not saying anybody *should* do that. Just saying it seems like the claim that people would have to feed real illegal content into an AI in order to make simulated illegal content, doesn’t make much sense to me.
>>541701476>on pixivThat's technically still illegal, even with this law. Only a matter of time before sharing online is inevitably allowed as well though, liberals won't stand for being limited in any way.
>>541695769>judge doesn't say you can share everything online in as aggressive a manner as possibleYou may rope now, faggot.
>>541695769No victim no crime.
>>541700435this is a very good point that i've never seen made before
>people will now unironically proceed to generate things for them to abuse mercilessly.You will be shown the meaning of merciless. Fail this test at your peril.
"A lie told once is questioned. A lie repeated often enough becomes accepted. And once it becomes 'common sense,' people stop investigating it. That is how deception survives." ~ Malcolm X
>>541698409Yes. All porn should be outright banned.But if we’re going to have absolutely no regulation in porn, then obviously AI generated porn of all types should be 100% legal. Can anyone explain why a video of a violent murder is legal but a video of a violent child rape is illegal? Outside of “well it’s worse,” I don’t think anyone can explain it.
>>541700394Yeah, if people can generate it themselves legally then there's no reason for them to seek out illegal images which means the market for actual child abuse imagery might dry up which would be a good thing. That means less new victims and less old victims having their abuse shared online.
>>541695769>All those Epstein sex tapes?>A.I generated!Uncle ted was right once again.We shouldnt use technology we cant control.Neither technicly nor on a philosophical level.Return to hunter and gatherer.
>>541701106This. It was the correct ruling, and the courts were right to be concerned about new laws being necessary to police AI-generated images.
>>541696462good answer, anon.
>>541696025Everyone calling bullshit but if they did some thorough data scraping they WILL find csam at some point, any given altchan gets spammed by 'p at times, and any website the feds and (((cloudfare))) dislike has a constant stream of 'p spammed to get it shut down or make it unuseable.All this without mentioning the personal stash a lot of companies and/or the government has, they already use claude for military stuff
>>541701363>A large swath of the public is openly rejecting AIWhy? Is it the media? It feels forced and inorganic.
Criminalising fictional pictures is just stupid
Bump
>>541697421Sinfest has been doing exactly that for more than a year.
>>541695769Yep, first amendment protects even against speech and artistic expression, even ones that people disagree with.
>>541695769generate deez nutz
>>541698238Pedophiles want real children, the attraction is power over them and the idea of others being with them. It's the power dynamic, and now with stimulated versions it will greatly decrease it because it's no longer profitable.Make it illegal, it becomes profitable again and causes more of it. Which is exactly what happens.
To /b/!
>>541695769Imagine a pussy with a small body and cute face sounds horrific
Lolicon is a direct pipeline to troonery.
>>541695769That occult legalese and jewish judge has no say. All the way to the most bitter God Is On 4chan sort of ))))end((((. That you can't imagine. Because they are all Your Enemy. Because they're Fucking Crazy.
Here's one from LegionCheezwheelWhorde.org, forberly UnitedStatesDeepState.org. Take it to non-white middle (finger) "school" with you tomorrow Monday.
>>541714061Troonery includes chemical castration, so this is an A-okay pipeline in my book.
>>541715137Interpreting whether or not acts of Congress are legal is actually the exclusive domain of judges. The only one who has a say above him is SCOTUS, and that's only if they decide to hear the case at all.
>>541701106>>541706713He literally stated he want the supreme court to recheck the ruling because he want it banned.
>>541701233they are in denial, and they know it
>>541717420Here's to hoping SCOTUS just lets it stand.
>>541717504People who actually bitch about the ruling are retarded because they can't see what the judge are doing, trying to push the case to the supreme court to try and repeal the ashcroft case. Then we'll hear these same retards crying when ascroft is repealed and even drawn pictures become illegal in the US.
>>541717370Gonna fard shards?
>>541717504Either they're too boomer to understand AI and just let it slide or go full pearl clutch and ban it. All I know is that this conversation certainly weeds the real pedos from the lolicons.
>>541717573>even drawn pictures become illegal in the US.this would be so fucking funny, I know it would tank this site, but holy fuck it would be an absolute assblaster.
>>541712374Based nip
>>541717630I'm European, so I don't care since our global law states that it's only illegal if it's a realistic depiction (so basically AI stuff like the OP case or realistic 3D). But for the US if ashcroft is repealed all US lolicons are fucked forever. But hey, at least the icky stuff is illegal again I guess lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvh05jjfTG4
>>541717420Like the ending in my favorite animus with low dvd sales.>the battle continues
>>541696025one thing is though they train AI on regular porn and then just do a body swap. It's why when you watch AI porn of anime girls, the body portions are weird. If they are short then they get sized up so they end up looking like giant goblins or wide hipped women
>>541718335The battle to repeal the first amendment.Imagine if the supreme court repeal the first amendment because it'd technically be the only way to make it illegal since it doesn't involve real kids.
If most of the world watch this video, we can start killing the niggers at the streets without the disapproval of the authorities. So, share this video.
>>541719188One could argue that AI-gens aren't protected free expression because the AI does 99.99% of the work. I'm not sure there's a slippery slope here, but we'll see how it goes.
>>541719682I actually hope they repeal the first amendment because of it, that'd be so hilarious as most people seething about the AI cases would seethe even more if the first amendment was repealed. RIP /pol/ however.
You lost normal niggers.Get over it.
>>541695769Seems fair to me.Should also be punishable to share it though.
