Compared to Japan, Europe is not really special
>>541750779The level of morals is different
>>541750779I like both Japan and Europe
Gb2 to 5ch netouyo
>>541750779>japans>moralsanon...............http://www.bing.com/search?q=rape+of+nanking
>>541751604Didn't you just read her post >>541750858 it's okay to rape Chinese because they don't use their traffic indicators like honorable Japanese people do
>>541750858Mindlessly following rules isn’t morality, it’s mind control. It’s why Asians can’t invent things. Doing what you’re told without questions is slave behavior. The funniest part about it is that nobody makes you, you just do it. The best example of this is that whole samurai shit. Imagine violently killing yourself over a mistake your boss made. Order without growth leads to stagnation and decay. It’s the same fucking thing over and over in Japanese history.
>>541750858true
>>541750779Asmongold designated japanese migrants as tier 2.
>>541750858if the signal is red and and there's no traffic. if you stand there and wait for green you're not a human.
>>541751604https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsujigiri>Tsujigiri (辻斬り or 辻斬, literally "crossroads killing") is a Japanese term for a practice when a samurai, after receiving a new katana or developing a new fighting style or weapon, tests its effectiveness by attacking a human opponent, usually a random defenseless passer-by, in many cases during night time.[1] The practitioners themselves are also referred to as tsujigiri.
>>541750779Remind me what was the state of Japan's population around the time of Portugese arrival?
>>541751749YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS
>>541752188This is the whole reason why sword tatami mats were invented
>>541750779Only reason why Japan exist is becouse some random Dutch selling them guns
>>541750779>>541750858The first one is just pig ignorance of history, but the second does actually have a bit of a point.
Crazy how this perfectly describes the Japanese
>>541750858>Look at that dumb foreigner thinking for himself, so uncivilized not following the rules and getting crushed to death
>>541750858no! even in hotels!
>>541752468No, it’s not. That isn’t the norm or the default at all. It would be more true if he pointed out we just don’t have a lot of stupid rules in the first place.
>>541750779Europe was creating giant civilizations and had world changing philosophical ideas when Japan only started to introduce cultivation of rice, japanese cant be compared to europeans indeed
>>541750858Get the stick out of your ass Makoto and lighten up.
>>541752464And some Brit steel looms etc
>>541750779Accounts like that are chinks LARPing as japs btw
Japs are so retarded.
>>541750779Slant-eyed cope, lmaoDid you forget it was Rothschild funds and Scottish freemasons who pulled you out of the middle ages when we were already industrializing?
>>541750779>few hundred Why are japs coping? You'd think what success they've had copying Whites they'd be more satisfied with themselves.
>>541750779i see israel wants to d&c white and jap neets
so the sweet spot is 3 nukes
>>541750779I mean I like Japan but that is some hardcore projection right there. I understand the sentiment though, observing Europes current actions.
>>541752618I think that inventing actual protective armor and utilization of the concept of shields and formations is the measuring stick by which the level of advancement that a civilization can attain without help, and also the level of willingness that a society has when it comes to stealing and perfecting enemy technology. Japs still think that westerners are unsophisticated and barbaric despite westerners figuring out how to propel lead pellets faster than the speed of sound or how to harness the subatomic process that powers the sun to instantly vaporize entire cities and the hundreds of thousands of people who live in them.
>>541752618Lol no. There was no civilization or world changing philosophical idea in Europe in 1000 BCE. Ancient Greece started around 800 BCE, Rome around 750 BCE. Those two gave birth to the European civilization.The center of gravity of the world at the time was in the near east. Aramean kingdoms, Amorites, Moab, Edom, Phoenician city states, Ancient Egypt, the Kassite dynasty of Babylonia, the Neo-Assyrian Empire, the Elamites, the kingdgoms of Sheba and Hadramawt were the notable nations of the time.Europe was at the stage of "cultures", like the near eastern cultures of Ubaid, Halaf, Samara or Assuna around 5000 BCE before the birth of Sumer and Ancient Egypt.
>>541752898yes
>>541753023Also japanese society only became an imperial power by copying the european barbarians in the 1700 and 1800s. When the Sengoku period ended and they tried to invade Korea using samurai armies they were thoroughly defeated, japanese ''civilization'' only became potent when it stopped being japanese
>>541750779>>541750858HOLY projection
>>541753023>I think that inventing actual protective armor and utilization of the concept of shields and formations is the measuring stick by which the level of advancement that a civilization can attain without help, and also the level of willingness that a society has when it comes to stealing and perfecting enemy technology.The Assyrians fit your criterion yet they weren't very civilized compared to Ancient Egypt a millenium before that. I'd say the measure is threefold:1/ widespread writing and record keeping2/ perenial institutions and bureaucracy that aren't dependent on a central figure3/ leveraging institution to set establish non essential engineering projects (beyond just farming and building houses)Protective armor and military formations is a very arbitrary metric that doesn't really make sense to me.
>>541753144Checked, pre-socratic thinkers of ancient Greece flourished from the 6th century BCE onward, literally the most influential school of philosophy in human history, thats actually before japanese had started cultivating rice on a large scale. 3000 years ago Japan was culturally Jomon not japanese in any meaningful way, just like there were no moroccons back then there were no japanese in their modern genetic composition
>>541753390Fair enough, that's closest to the truth, or so, regarding the core subject. As for Moroccan genetics, they were largely similar to what they are today. More so than Greece or Italy or France for that matter.The only later additions were the Vandal, Roman and Arab admixtures which are marginal to the makeup of the typical moroccan's genome. The E-M81 marker was ubiquitous, admixtures with carthaginian, israelite, egyptian, near-eastern farmer and european neolithic farmers were already realized.
>>541753623>more so than greece or italy or franceyou are nothing but my wheat farm
>>541750779He's right. He's completely right. Also I'd rather go vacation in japan than any shithole in europe.
>>541750779japanese were savages before they got culturally enriched by europe.but theres noone that can improve europe, since we adopted subhuman culture it all went downhill
>>541754021Nah, japanese culture is superior and they're cleaner
>>541753903Your fragile ego sees any statement of fact as an insult. No bad feelings toward you.>you are nothing but my wheat farmAbout that, i always struggled to understand how western north africa was the granary of the roman empire before the inclusion of egypt.Like... isn't europe supposedly more fertile or was the weather different back then? I mean, today we import our wheat from Russia, Ukraine and France because their climate is more fit for that. Why wasn't France the granary of the Roman empire instead?
>>541750779Put Europe and „just“ in a sentence and no one will take you serious, smsll dicked half blind pedo manlets.
>>541754052japanese culture is orderly but it makes individuals fucking miserable as a priceim not quite sure thats superior
>>541753623Over the centuries various groups have contributed to the gene pool, including phoenicians, romans, vandals, and sub-saharan africans and ofcourse the arabs. The ancient berber population does not exist anymore, however all europeans are made from the same three ancient groups, western hunter gatherer, neolithic farmer and indo-european. Greeks, italians and french are basically the same people with cultural variation, genetic composition of Europe has remained the same since indo-european migrations. The moroccon original berber population is not the same as population of morocco but a european is exactly the same genetically as europeans were 5000 years ago
>>541754303yeah yeah yeah keep coping, don't you have some toilets to go scrub?
>>541754252>isn't europe supposedly more fertile or was the weather different back thenClimate was VASTLY different from today. Way warmer. Which surprisingly leads to europe being less fertile while africa becomes fertile due to more rain. Thats the reason hannibal could walk in a fucking skirt of the alps. With elephants. Or the romans could march to germany in fucking sandals alone
>>541754284they could cut your head clean off, all it takes is just one swing
>>541754252i didnt see morocco in particular but allegedly spain was incomparably more green in antiquity
>>541754587you are fucking retarded do you know that?
>>541752455> Lord Naoshige said, " The Way of the Samurai is in desperateness. Ten men or more cannot kill a man. Common sense will not accomplish great things. Simply become insane and desperate- Yamamoto Tsunetomo
>>541754303This is copeSure you can cherrypick hikkikomoris but your average japanese lives in clean, safe, high trust monoethnic community with western european wealth/economy. While most europeans are poor and gay.Japanese people live much better lives currently that's just a fact
>>541754252Europe didn't have the heavy plow yet to use their soil, north Africa. Soil was light and fertile, it wasn't until 1200AD that Europe had the heavy plow to use their forested lands
>>541750779your women are whores
>>541754725dear memeflag, my bet is that you dont even speak japanese much less lived in japan.average japanese male is borderline mentally ill from having to suppress himself and conform in public all the time.
>>541754252In antiquity they hadn't yet invented the heavy plow which is needed to cultivate northern european soil and also in antiquity Europe was heavily forested, the food production only jumped up during the middle ages when the forests were slowly cut down and better farming techniques were invented. Back in the day (6000 years ago) the entire sahara was actually fully green savanna with lakes and abundance of wildlife and some of that continued to antiquity, Iraq for example where civilization began was much wetter than it is today, similar thing with Egypt, the nile green strip was much wider
>>541754748Thank God.
>>541750779Hiroto vents on tweetah after rong day of getting bullied at office and not having sexu for whole life
>>541750779europe has been nothing since the french last ruled in the 1800s
europeans were literally an investment of jewish central banks
>>541754335I know you're uneducated on the topic you're discussing and that you're indulging in speculative thinking.Your statement is opposite to everything the evidence from genetic sequencing suggests. Morocco today is made up of over 85% M-81 marker and that's including western Sahara which alters the results.The genome experienced far less frequent admixture here than both southern Europe or the Levant. That is a fact, not conjecture.> Romans, Phoenicians, VandalsVery marginal Roman and Phoenician influence, and near 0 influence from the Vandals who ruled the coastal north for 100 years and conquered with 80k men a region already inhabited by millions. Not only that, they also set in place a segregated system between them and the non aryan, non christian locals. >sub-saharan africans and ofcourse the arabsIf you were to lay out a map of migratory waves that influenced morocco and western north africa as a whole, they were largely, and almost exclusively east-west. There's a solid egyptian component that was brought in antiquity you know nothing about and a levantine component that trumps the later arabic influence. I'm also certain that you assume that arab admixture occured during the conquests since that's a myth widespread in Europe. The people who came during the conquests left no mark. The admixture occured hundreds of years later when the Hilalian and Banu Sulaym tribes were pushed westward by the Fatimid dynasty and leveraged by the local ruler as mercenaries in exchange of land to end a civil war. The arab admixture is well under 10% and around 10% in the small pockets of inbred "arabs" (referred to as 'arobi by moroccans). As for subsaharians, because the north-south migrations were minimal, the admixture is less than 10% and inflated by the southern desertic regions where it's closer to 25%. The rest of the country differs significantly, in particular rifians and the atlas berbers who carry between 0.5% and 3% admixture with western africa.
>>541750779Europeans are descendants of philosophers, mathematicians, culturally superior humans. Japaniggers are descendants of slave cattle and brutal feudal lords. That's why their obsession with inhumane cruelty and complete sexual slavery is so existential. That's why the most horrific crimes ever reported come from Japan. Two nukes were not enough for you bugs.
>>541750779i dont know, if japan was really so advanced why are japanese women tripping over themselves to ride the white stallion as they say? almost all these girls have boyfriends or husbands but still are having me go in raw...
>>541750779Yet you ape the West every chance you get.
>>541750858>morals is when you follow all the rulesLololololololLiteral baby brain
>>541750858Yes. Think for yourself. Question authority. Or be literal cattle all your life.
>>541754335>>541755094Continuing on that, i'd also like to mention the fact that the bulk of the admixture with western africa came later in time and required the formation of a state that could brave the saharian desert and conquer western Africa to bring slaves in droves which sultans like Moulay Ismail did. Some of the slaves brought were turned into royal guards and gained status making them coveted especially by the poor families of the cities like Meknes..
>>541754587Never knew
>>541750779Don't try to divide us, Nippon anon
>>541750779We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
Since the day I found out that Japs drive on the left side, I lost all respect and China is my new bro
>>541754895>average japanese male is borderline mentally ill from having to suppress himself and conform in public all the time.Looks like you are projecting because you visited Japan and had to stop watching tiktoks on full volume while on a train which makes you go insane for some reasonEurope would benefit from clear social rules and retards being shamed for annoying behavior.
>A study of 253 men from Tanzania found that the average penis length of Tanzanian males is 11.5 cm (4.5 in).https://www.auajournals.org/doi/10.1016/j.juro.2013.02.3200>A study of 115 men from Nigeria found that the average penis length of Nigerian males was 13.37 cm (5.1 in)https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17191423/>A study of 248 Korean men identified the average Korean penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5028213/
>>541754748>>541755151jeet behavior, japanese culture really is superior
>>541750779we literally civilized japanyou guys didnt even know what arubaito is before germans visited youno need to thank us
>>541755355and now look at you, nothing but apes
>>541750858This is why even though East Asian have a couple of IQ points on us, almost every invention came out of Europe and or European Americans the Japanese have literally never invented anything.Great at following rules. Great at copying. Great at following directions. Not so good at thinking outside of the box and breaking rules whe they need to be broken. If it were up to East Asians humanity would have stopped progressing in the feudal period and that would have been the end of it forever because God forbid you break the rules and do something different.
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>>541754372What? How does a way warmer climate lead Europe to be less fertile and North Africa to be more fertile? That's very counter intuitive.>>541754918Yes, Mesopotamia and Egypt (but also North Africa for that matter) were less desertic than they are today in 3000 BCE because the desertification process of the Sahara only started at around 5000 BCE and 3000 BCE. That's why the Amazigh (berbers) settled it (they did when it was a savanah). But we're talking about 100 BCE, not 3000 BCE , right?
>>541750779Being Asian is about making walled gardens and going 0 immigration so you never lose. Whites have had to thrive with every race breathing down their neck even Chinese/Japs and Indians and still doing okay. Whites have always been world conquerors and also the world has tried to take us down too and we still persevered and did great.
>>541755390were not doing so badinb4 >muh gdpyeah we still beat japan in every other metric and cope statistic like PPP
>>541755490forgot pic
>>541755328no lol, gaijin card means all you get is the jap stare, foreigners dont really suffer in japan like natives do unless you are a stupid american who expects japs to accept you as if you were their own.its the native males who get kicked around by everyone senior to them AND their wives and then they propagate the kicking downwards, and god forbid you dont read the air if you are native, you are socially dead then.foreigner can ignore the air all he wants, he will be treated like a kid.
>>541750858I have to protest. Brits and Germans at least are known for rule-following and doing it by the book.Since X started auto translating and showing me Nip posts I've noticed a few of them harbour resentment towards Europe for reasons that mostly elude me. Some of them seem to have adopted a brown type oppression hierarchy and see Europe as evil colonisers, for which the irony appears lost on them.
>>541755541now imagine 1 billion germans. we are really the chosen people
>>541755490>muh gdpGermutts have literal 0 cultural exports compared to the superior Japanese
>>541750858>japs haven't heard about scandinavia.
>>541755698>chosen>gets utterly raped and gapedGod, we really fucked you up lol
>>541755763we vs the entire world full of goy drones, yeah - a fight one could not win. and again >>541755698
>>541755698and many forget that japan is 1.5x the population of germany too>>541755734maybe not on the level of japan but to say we dont have cultural exports is a plain lieand thats absolutely meaningless regarding the quality of life and health of a peopleall that tells me is that youre some sorry anime obsessed weeb so japanese cultural exports are the most important thing in the world for you
>>541754392>i didnt see morocco in particular but allegedly spain was incomparably more green in antiquityYes, both Morocco and Spain were comparably more green in antiquity but antiquity is a lose term.The reason for that is that around 5000 BCE to 3000 BCE a gradual shifts in Earth's orbital tilt reduced summer sunlight in the Northern Hemisphere weakening the African monsoon system which turned the Sahara from a green savanah with heavy rainfall to a desert but the process was slow and gradual.
>>541750779Japan should pay reparations to the USA for us nuking them. The Manhattan project was not cheap.
>>541755871lol you're seething. Also the japanese language sounds more pleasant to the ears than your disgusting krautspeak
>>541755094I'm extremely educated on this exact topic and we have a mountain of evidence of what I just said earlier, just ask any LLM and it will make a quick summary to you how modern moroccons are not the same population as the ancient berber population was, there is some genetic continuity ofcourse since not all berbers were genocided obviously but to say its a continuous lineage like european populations is very misleading, Morocco was conquered many times and we have very good archeological record on that, modern moroccons came to be around the 700s in their current genetic composition, also Haplogroups are not important to overall genetic diversity, if you and your sons marry sub-saharan africans for 400 years they still have the same haplogroup, this is beginner level stuff really and I went and checked your claim just for the hell of it and turns out that a recent study of 109 Moroccan males found that the broader haplogroup E1b1b1 (which includes M-81) was present in only 36.6% of the sample group.>If you were to lay out a map of migratory waves that influenced morocco and western north africa as a whole, they were largely, and almost exclusively east-west.Correct, the original berber populations were largely replaced by these migration waves which all genetic and archeological evidence clearly shows too>I'm also certain that you assume that arab admixture occured during the conquests since that's a myth widespread in Europe. The people who came during the conquests left no markLMAO allright buddy, we cant have this discussion I guess if you're just going to start this kind of stuff, all I'm going to add is that all genetic evidence I have seen disproves that categorically.
>>541755966just having fun argueingOP isnt even japanese and its an obvious bait threadwhat im saying still holds true except my arubaito banter
>>541756071Dont argue with goat "people".
>>541755443Sure, Europe was more forested and there was no heavy plow anywhere on earth, therefore agriculture was more developed in Southern Europe and North Africa, spesifically Egypt at the time which was the emperors personal province
>>541752589Incredible. I have never seen that photo.
>>541756071>>541755094you are both wrong, ancient berbers were quadroons and resembled saharawis or the southernmost berbers from tiznitmodern northwest africans are largely berber with some anatolian/levantine migrant ancestry from the roman empire, almost no actual arab or vandal ancestry whatsoever
>>541756071North Africa had better genetic continuity than Europe, Europe got raped multiple times, first time by Anatolia turk Chad's, and the second by the bvlls of the steppes of modern day Ukraine, north Africa by contrast managed to repell any invasion no matter how long it took and they guarded their genetics the only exception is Canary islands where they got raped by spaniards cause they isolated freaks that hated us, ended up raped and now they love their new masters
>>541756599>North Africa had better genetic continuity than EuropeSlaves always have the longest screeches.
>>541750779>Compared to Japan, Europe is not really specialdont let them know
>>541756071>I'm extremely educated on this exact topic and we have a mountain of evidence of what I just said earlier, just ask any LLMAlright. I followed your advice. I asked Gemini Pro and the answer aligns perfectly with what i'm telling you. The genetic alteration was layered and marginal and the core substrate remained largely dominant.>there is some genetic continuity ofcourse since not all berbers were genocided obviouslyWhat genocide are you referring to? If it's historical, you can date it, if it's a conclusion from genetic sequencing, you can point at a timeframe. There is a single genocide that i can point at and that was the genocide of the Berghwata confederation by other berbers around 1000 CE. >but to say its a continuous lineage like european populationsYou're inverting the truth in a very dumbfounding way. It's Europe's history that's marked by waves of genocides and ethnic replacements, namely, the western hunter gatherer populations collapsed and nearly disappeared after the introduction of the neolithic farmers with the worst Y-DNA erasure peaking at around 7000 BCE, then 5000 years ago, the same pattern occured to a lesser extent with the introduction of the eurasian steppe herders with a collapse of the male neolithic farmer lineage. >Morocco was conquered many times and we have very good archeological record on thatYes, the coastal north of the country was conquered by Romans, Vandals yet they left almost no genetic footprint. The european component of the Moroccan population derives from the neolithic farmers and came around 7k y ago.>modern moroccons came to be around the 700s in their current genetic compositionElaborate. Point at a major ethnic replacement. Because from where i stand, you're pulling rabbits out of your hat respectfully.
>>541755684>Brits and Germans at least are known for rule-following and doing it by the book.Uh... Germans yes, Brits no when it comes to the lower classes.
>>541756071>and I went and checked your claim just for the hell of it and turns out that a recent study of 109 Moroccan males found that the broader haplogroup E1b1b1 (which includes M-81) was present in only 36.6% of the sample group.You nitpicked the weakest study that aligns with your narrative. The one with the smallest pool and the most odd results since the second haplogroup is the F from... east asia? The Bakada et al. study with a sample size of 760 people puts the frequency of E-M81 in a national sample at 67.3% the reguig et al at 89.8% for central moroccan with a pool of 187, and the lowest, the Bosch et al puts it at 63.6%.
>>541756345find the video, there are gooks gawking at him as they march into the crush and die. Its amazing
>>541756142I'm arguing with good faith and i'm not moved by ideological motives. When i was a kid, i used to genuinely adhere to the line of thought that we're arab. This belief only changed after i was exposed to overwhelming contradictory evidence. If i'm Bengali or an Australian aborigene so what? Denial of the truth doesn't raise my status or alter what is factual. I am detached. You are not. You're emotionally charged because of your adversity.
>>541758116>lower classes.Does Germany not have lower classes?
>>541758480>I am aloof, you are not
>>541750907Correct and non kike shill answer.
>>541750779lol. it's always funny to see some white envy
>>541758563You also know that i speak the truth. Does make you less rabid? Evidently not. In a debate of ideas, the best position that an emotional party can take is chimpout and shitpost.
>>541758754>turk bulls>bulls of the steppe>emotionally chargedMe sandnigger, me rational. You irrational.Another refugee with power fantasies.
>>541750858Seething Amerimutt replies:>Actually I shit in my walmart scooter because I'm a free thinker! Freedom, bitch!>I act like a nigger in public because no one can tell me what to do!
>>541758480you lied a few times tho, for example, sub saharan ancestry was already present among ancient berbers in the iron age or even bronze age
>>541758480We will be black soon don't worry about being Arab or berber also this thread about Japan... Please
>>541759000>We will be black soonAnd thats on Bilal.
>>541750907this, I only fight with and engage in bants here BECAUSE I like them.if I dont like someone, I dont even talk to them or I hurt them, if I am engaging with daily back and forth "no you and your country are garbage" it is because I enjoy their company, I like how they challenge me to bant my best, research their countries history to better bant and dunk at them, and I know they wouldnt be doing it too if they didnt feed off me the same way I feed off them.I ever a bong caved to my bants and said something like "you are right, fine we just suck, I hate myself!!!" I would immediately reverse course and be like "anon no! you are great bruh, I was just fucking with you, that war we had doesnt mean anything, in fact without it how ever would our two countries have been motivated to become so great as to make the rest of the world bitch and whine while we live in their heads rent free?"then I would take him to the pub, get us both wasted on my tab, and we would go light some paki's car on fire and tear up the no go zones with some canned beans as mortar rounds and broken beer bottles as knives, shit on the steps of a mosque, piss on some hijabs head and the next morning wake up at his mum's to a full english for our hangovers and do it again the next weekend!
>>541754052>they're cleanerThey're literally notThey bathe and wash their hands less than White peopleTheir culture is overrated anime trash
>>541750779a couple of hundred years ago this nigga would have been a peddler forbidden to eat meat
>>541750779>Europe only climbed up in the last few hundred yearscringe
>>5417542521. europe was heavily forested2. most heavy freight was transported by sea
>>541750779>>541750858JAPAN DESERVES ANOTHER NUKE
>>541753023Fukken saved
>>541754052Shut the fuck up you retarded weeb.
>>541750779>Europeans are upstarts!Hilarious coming from Japan of all places.
>>541758888>>541758888Power fantasies? Where? Did you see any self-aggrandizing statement? Does anything i said serve my ego or interest? What is it that irritates you so much? >>541758954Why are you so quick to call it a lie? I said that western african admixture was historically far less significant than east-west admixture which is a fact. I read and sourced your table in picrel. It puts the tunisian samples along with spanish and italian at 8% and the algerian one at 10% for the subsaharian aggregate. On one hand, it does not specifically target western africans (i'll come back to that later) and on the other it does not present a moroccan subject. The difference between Algeria, Tunisia and Libya on one hand and Morocco is geographic. Look at a map and you'll see that aside from western sahara, the bulk of the country is constituted of a chain of mountains called the Atlas mountains (high, middle and low atlas). This is where nearly all the amazigh lived aside from exceptions like the Berghwata and Beni Znassen (or saharians). On the other hand, the biggest source of admixture for western north africans is from egypt (at the time of ancient egypt). It was already largely mixed with nubians (eastern africans) and ethiopians. The second biggest source of admixture came from the levant and the arabian peninsula, also largely mixed with eastern africans. Add to that the fact that there's an outlier in north africa that evolved separately while retaining an amazigh core and those are the touareg (or the berbers of the sand) which, as i already said, evolved to have more admixture with the south due to their nomadic lifestyle as opposed to the insular mountain berbers which represent the bulk of what we call berbers today. Delay judgement, focus on the back and forth of ideas, then, you can reach whatever conclusion resonates better with you.
>>541758497we do but our middle class is famously hugeof course its shrinking here too but compared to many other countries we are relatively equal
>>541759931>Did you see any self-aggrandizing statement>turk bulls>bulls of the steppeStop the holier than though act.
>>541759931just admit that ancient iron age berbers resembled modern sahrawis and the southernmost berbers from tiznit
>>541760063Answer the question. Did you see any self-aggrandizing statement? >turk bulls>bulls of the steppeYes. You said that twice. I never did.
>>541755443>What? How does a way warmer climate lead Europe to be less fertile and North Africa to be more fertile? That's very counter intuitive.This summer, half of all ground level plants died in europe.Imagine a century like that.
>>541750779>>541750858Western Civilization:>Ancient Greek philosophy>Ancient Greek geometry / mathematics>Ancient Greek proportions, column orders, architecture>Ancient Roman civics and politics>Ancient Roman warfare and empire building>Sprinkle of Israelite religion and theology>Christian cathedrals>Renaissance>Discovery of heliocentrism>Long-range ocean navigation and discovery of the new world>Newton's physics revolution>Enlightenment>Chemistry>Optics>Astronomy>Electricity>Mass-scale energy extraction and use>Relativity>Computers>Space flight + moon landing>Artificial IntelligenceJapan:>anime>katanas>spirits in objects n sheit>tentacle rape kawaii desu ne :3Wow, these western savages!
>>541760123Whatever you demonstrate, i will admit. I gave you an exhaustive substantitated reply about the genetic substrate and admixture. I got a rethorical answer in response. It makes it hard to concede anything.>just admit that ancient iron age berbers resembled modern sahrawis and the southernmost berbers from tiznitIn terms of bone structure and facial features? They didn't. Were they darker skinned? Almost certainly and so was Europe. The light skin genes are SLC24A5 and SLC45A2. They developed in the Levant or southern anatolia some 20k years ago. Only became widespread in Europe some 5000 years ago, and dominant 3000 years ago (so 1000 BCE, and even then europeans, especially southern europeans weren't as white as they are today). The expression of the gene isn't binary and it takes time to for the selection to mature. It's also a gradient. The further from high UV areas you are, the more it expresses itself over time. That's why you'll see caucasian features in some touareg unlike that of west africans but with a dark skin.
>>541760450>This summer, half of all ground level plants died in europe.>Imagine a century like that.Wtf... The heat wave did that?
>>541760603quit playing around, autosomally they resembled modern saharawis or the southernmost berbers from tiznit
>>541751950This is why these retards can't fix their economy for 30+ years. No outside-of-the-box thinking allowed. Just because they have hot girls and can draw well doesn't make them superior to Europeans.
>>541760707Who's playing around? You're throwing takes like my grandma and are allergic to explain them, let alone present evidence of what you say.You're a sophist who's only levers to push his narrative is to frame your takes as so self-explanatory and evident they cannot be argued. That and repetition. PS: the southernmost berbers aren't from Tiznit and the people of Tiznit are mixed with foreign elements from arab origin, namely the entire Banu Sulaym tribe who moved there from Arabia.
>>541760751to be fair once youre in stagflation like japan you dont policy your way out of itonly extra ordinary external shocks can lead to a way outits a death spiral
>>541754303European culture is also very orderly. We just have it ingrained in us to push against the system. Japan is like a white society with out the ingrained spirit of rebellion.
>>541760989hilarious that the fact that ancient berbers resembled saharawis and the southernmost moroccan berbers form places like tiznit, truly destroyed most berberists, you know what i'm talking about
>>541760664It did not rain at all for almost four months.
>>541760751I'd cut them some slack there, that's the kikes' fault. It's also the kikes' fault that we let the nips get ahead on manufacturing anyway, but I digress.
>>541761383Thanks. I wasn't sure whether i was arguing with a troll or an idiot. So, you evidently can't read the table you just pasted. Right?In picrel, all five samples have broadly similar genetic distance to the Sahrawi reference population genius. The difference between the closest and farthest is about 0.0117 and, for example, the Algerian sample is more distant to the Sahrawi than... the Spanish one (also by far the closest to Moroccan north btw).Your picrel is a self own, another own is that the distance today is roughly the same when it comes to north africa. Stay retarded champ
>>541761691>It did not rain at all for almost four months.Is this sudden alteration of your weather ephemeral or the early sign of a long lasting climate change in your opinion?
>>541761954are you seriously retarded? yes they have a similar ancient berber genetic profile because besides the algerian, the others are migrants from NW africathe question was, is this ancient berber genetic profile closest to modern saharawis and other southern maghrebis? and the answer is yes
>>541762073>>541761954if you didn't know it oAfrica means outlier from africa, besides the algerian all the other samples are outliers compared to the local population (the tunisians from punic sites included, as the punic samples are mostly euro+middle eastern genetically with little local berber ancestry)
>>541762053this is the rhine broits long lasting trendwe dont get snow anymore22 years ago i would sled down the local hills every winterand 40°C happened only for a day or two per summer every few years but now its weeks on end
>>541750858It’s true . What whites are to the Japanese. Is what pol bitches about migrants.Like wtf. Being rebellious is what made the west greatRules are made to be broken
>>541750779What is going on with CCP & zigger shills these past few weeks kek, it's like they're all self-detonating at the same time, going completely and clinically insane.Is it that the russia is now (actually) finally imploding while commie china is experiencing the mildest pain from having slightly harder to source oil over the Iran war and is likely forced to abandon its 2027 TW war fantasies?Or am I being too simple here?
>>541755352It was when they didn’t westernized
>>541753023>>>541753023>Japs still think that westerners are unsophisticated and barbaric despite westerners figuring out how to propel lead pellets faster than the speed of sound or how to harness the subatomic process that powers the sun to instantly vaporize entire cities and the hundreds of thousandsStop taking credit for Jewish technology. Jews are not, were not, and never have been 'westerners'.
>>541762073>>541762171Alright. I misread. You are right. I was wrong. The 802 BC amazigh of the north is closer to the southern one than today. If i had to speculate, it'd probably be because the southern ones were more insular to admixture with the waves of migrations that reached western north africa over the ages since their only source of foreign admixture was with the south (Mauritania Mali and Tchad). Sahrawis today have roughly 25% admixture western Africa. Would you say that the older samples were closer because they shared a larger share of amazigh dna which was diluted by east-west migrations or because they had a higher share of subsaharian admixture?
>>541762053Both.El nino is exceptional this year, every climate is behaaving abnormally. However, long term, the magnetic protection from the sun will be reduced for decades due to a lower activity, as well as the earth's due to its polar shift. Then we lose another layer of protection due to the sol system itself leaving a zone of relative low space radiation. This accumulates with increased demographic pressure on the biosphere, we will have at best mediocre yields for almost a century relative to the population.Add the increased urban density just as the system can't support such population anymore and the export of higly polluting Indians everywher and we have not even started the bad time.
>>541762340Oh... I'm sorry dude. If the trend is long lasting, its consequences will be ruinous. But, i doubt something of such a scale would be purely due to Human activity rather than being the result of a geological or astronomical phenomenon (maybe accelerated by human activity).Anyways, i see plenty of science vulgarization videos claiming that the Sahara is getting greener which i assume must be clickbait because the last time the Sahara was green, there was a glaciation period in europe. Or maybe it's more complicated than that.
>>541762748>Would you say that the older samples were closer because they shared a larger share of amazigh dna which was diluted by east-west migrations or because they had a higher share of subsaharian admixture?they share a larger share of amazigh ancestry, and amazigh ancestry includes some sub saharan ancestry, modern coastal NW africans have layers of middle eastern and southern european ancestry from roman era euro-levantine admixed colonists like pic rel
>>541755752Most people even in the best European countries act like animals.Even the Norwegian royal family is degenerate as fuck so how bad it must be in the lower social classes.
OP has 100k followers but gets like 90-100 likes per post and seems to be posting random stuff most of the time.
>>541750779I will not be lectured about morals by a nip, whose preferred method of anticonception was smashing newborns againts rocks.
>>541762956>every climate is behaaving abnormallyNot sure if it's behaving abnormally in north africa but we had our best rainy period after a long drought and the weather during summer was 10 degrees lower than cities like Paris, Berlin and London in most Moroccan cities and about the same in cities like Marrakech. >the magnetic protection from the sun will be reduced for decades due to a lower activitySo high UV exposure everywhere. Basically, central Africa.>Then we lose another layer of protection due to the sol system itself leaving a zone of relative low space radiation. This accumulates with increased demographic pressure on the biosphere, we will have at best mediocre yields for almost a century relative to the population.In your opinion, what areas would be the least affected or the most livable? I'm assuming areas with large underground water banks and with resistant crops.
>>541763247Japan has problems too. I heard they even have separate railroad cars for women. We don't need that in Europe.Without extreme shame culture that whole society would collapse.
>>541763171Modern moroccans have little traces of yamnaya eurasian steppe herders but much higher neolithic european farmer ancestry. I doubt the roman contribution was significant. The concensus today is that the bulk of european migrations were much older, like 7k years ago (before the indo-aryan invasions). For example, the blonde component found sparsely today was identified in samples that date back to 7k years ago.>they share a larger share of amazigh ancestry, and amazigh ancestry includes some sub saharan ancestryEastern African, counter-intuitively.
>>541750779US would choose Jap values any day over Europe's BS. Don't be fooled by shills, poos, etc, LARPing as "gaijin" in Japan... (((they))) are manufacturing descent so that we don't unite. Fuck them.
>>541763815>US would choose Jap values any day over Europe's BSThe cream of the crop of America is its European component. Are you entertaining the idea that your Europeans behave better than the ones from the old continent?
>European were a bunch of barbarians until a couple hundred years ago And Japan?
>>541750907>>541751121>>541751604>>541751749>>541751950>>541752047OP is a chinese, that is trying to split Japan from the westthe twitter post was also likely made by a chinese
>>541763598>I doubt the roman contribution was significant.those samples are from the roman era but are very low steppe (10% or less) and have a ton of west asian ancestry, as you can see they plot with jews and cypriotsthey are the same type of people that swarmed any corner of the empire, their ancestry can be found from southern germany to italy, to southern france to greece to iberia to the balkans.>The concensus today is that the bulk of european migrations were much older, like 7k years ago (before the indo-aryan invasions). there's no such consensus, neoltihic migrations into the maghreb included both EEFs from europe and anatolian farmer admixed neolithic levantines, so already in the neolithic the ANF in the maghreb wasn't all from europe, but a lot of the ANF in the modern maghreb is from roman era internal migrations
>>541764187>those samples are from the roman era but are very low steppe (10% or less) and have a ton of west asian ancestry, as you can see they plot with jews and cypriots>they are the same type of people that swarmed any corner of the empireWhy would the roman contribution be very low in western steppe herder (ie aryan) component? I thought the genetic makeup of Europe was already vastly altered by the time the Romans came to be since the invasions occured over 2000 years ago, or am i missing something?
>>541764187Also, you said: >A lot of the ANF in the modern Maghreb is from Roman-era internal migrations” is not established as a consensus.Just to clarify, this is speculative, right? I think every source i ever delved upon hints at the opposite.
>>541764498these are roman era samples not iron age italics, their autosomal ancestry is largely anatolian, the roman empire saw a massive movement of people from anatolia to the rest of the empire
>>541763911Nice cope, Morocco... Haven't heard from you Niggers in a while.
>>541764710>these are roman era samplesThe picrel you shared in the previous post? Aren't they from the neolithic?https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12094895/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>the roman empire saw a massive movement of people from anatolia to the rest of the empireYou mean more movements from Anatolia to Morocco during the Roman era than say Spain or Italy? How?
>>541764153>split Japan from the westJapanese civilization is literally a Chinese offshoot. Except they sucked ass at maintaining imperial power and meritocracy so they fell into feudalism.
https://youtu.be/qLfS3wa3N7U?is
>>541764992cool story, ching chang chongjapanese civilization is ten times better than your
>>541764992>Japanese civilization is literally a Chinese offshoot.No lies detected. But then again, so is the entirety of east asia. It's either part of the Chinese civilisational sphere, Indian civilisational sphere or both.
>>541764914>The picrel you shared in the previous post? Aren't they from the neolithic?no obviously, this >>541764187 is from the neolithic, showing you that even in the neolithic, the ANF ancestry in the maghreb wasn't all from europe but also from the middle east, which explains the low levels of whg, this >>541763171 is from the roman era>You mean more movements from Anatolia to Morocco during the Roman era than say Spain or Italy? How?nigga it's not complicated, the empire was swarmed with anatolian ancestry during the roman empire, italy and spain included, yes those colonists in algeria didn't come directly from anatolia probably but from italy and iberia, which explains why they're not 100% iron age anatolian but have a bit of european ancestry, point is that this is the largest non amazigh genetic component in the maghreb
>>541765052they literally slowplaying a nigger creeping through your window>hide yo kids hide yo wives
>>541765159Japan has far surpassed chinaChina is a grumpy has been
>>541750779>Compared to Japan, Europe is not really speciABSOLUTELY. WE DON'T EAT ANIMALS ALIVE nor do we torture them like you with your wet markets. Go kill yourself you bug. You and your hentai bullshit killed the western youth. I would brake you in half if you manlet would be near my reach;thank your hentai porn Industrie gods you're out my reach little one. K. Y. S.
