This is what Russia calls peace
it does look peaceful. no people at all. a fine addition to russia and worth however many dead russians it took to gain that pile of rubble
Ukraine started this war
Look at all those Russian speakers of the Donbas liberated from Ukrainian shelling. It's a miracle.
>>541753559according to russian propaganda
>>541753559>Ukraine*The US
>>541753559lol
>>541753559This poster is a jeet
>>541753648no, according to facts.
>>541753607Don't worry, Ukranian speakers will also be liberated.
I hope other nations take note that having a Russian minority is grounds for Russia to invade.Best to 'liquidate' your Russians before they become a problem.
>>541753743>factsdelusions
>>541753276Maybe NATO should just surrender their lost proxy war they started, instead of eliminating the population of Ukraine. So much for "democracy", "human rights" and the "liberal order", the greatest lies ever told.
>>541753276here's a protip for you cawadoody warriors: if you hide your army, ammo and gear among civvies in civilian areas then shit like this will happen. that's just how it is.
>>541753920>>541753743Thank you John and Peter from Texas Oblast
>>541753799The Russian minority was never grounds, Putin is literally importing churki into the remains of Eastern Ukraine after he obliterated all the "Ethnic Russian" cities and people, he doesn't give a fuck, not to mention he's doing the same thing in Russia itself.
>>541754097>Be America>Try to Surround Russia with military bases>Be warned it will lead to war>Try it Georgia>War>Try it again in Ukraine>War>Give Ukraine aid to do strikes into Russia>Russia will not make any ceasefires or agreements nowSo what do you think would happen if Russia did this the US? And this is vast understatement of exactly what the US did in the decades that led to this war.
>>541753799Vietnam has lot of Russian and Ukrainians, does that mean Vietnam war 2.0?
>>541753559Tell us more my saaar.
literally all ukraine had to do was "yes mr putin we won't try to join a military alliance nato against you or put judeoamerican bases in our territory for the next 10 years" and russia would not have given a shit about ukrainebut the hohols went WE ARE HARRY POTTER FIGHTING THE ORCS while they die for a jewish presidentHow has this war improved the lives of ukranians? They're just being used as fodder
>>541754260But Russia is an evil country. Always has been, always will be. Should have nuked it in 1946.
>>541753276This is what germanics call The European Dream
>>541753559>switzerland's resident jeet supports russiaTypical.
>>541754260Sorry xhud, but countries around Russia all voluntary joined NATO through popular vote, just like... uhhh.. uh? Slovenia I guess
>>541754260>Try it Georgia>War>Try it again in Ukraine>Wardamn you can use the same excuse for every war you start.
>>541754185IT 100% was grounds. Wherever is convenient to take they'll take it. It's a modern day Imperial policy.>>541754271If they want to go international then maybe. Best to be safe and get rid of them by any means necessary. Baltics should start since they're most at risk. Russians brought it on themselves for being from an agressive authoritarian state.
>>541753276Well, looks peaceful if you ask me
>>541754260"Surrounding them with bases" is a funny way to point out how so many of Russia's neighbors desperately want protection from it. I wonder why.
>>541754394they were always going to attack, this has been planned for decades
>>541754683Does the Germans government hold this same standard on the israeli expansionist policy?
>>541754479The US lied about it's NATO non expansion agreements. NATO is an explicitly anti-Soviet organization that had no reason to exist post 1991 other than be redirected against Russia. The US and NATO know exactly what the interests and geopolitical dynamics of the region are. When they put the Baltic countries in NATO, it had nothing to do with their security. Those are all the same lies they keep peddling today. It had to do with putting military assets right next to Russia's second largest city. This action is basically the worst thing the Baltics could do for their own security. In fact it makes no sense to engage n outward hostility or inflame relations with your largest neighbor and probably largest trade partner. After this Russia warned of war. This WAS the second violation of the non-NATO expansion agreement. So what did they do? Keep doing it. Please understand their exact goal is to start war with Russia.
>>541754479Are you jews for real?Do you think america will just allow it if russia or china decides to put military bases and missile platforms in canada and mexico? They will fucking flip their shit because this is a clear national security threat
>>541753276Fake picture. Finnish media, DD and caffeine gum salesman tells me Ukraine is winning big.
>>541754824>NATO is an explicitly anti-Soviet organizationaccording to russian propaganda
>>541754645They never wanted protection, they want gibsmedats from whoever is willing to pay to occupy them.
>>541754856Are you 12? Or a redditor? Or mentally retarded? Or all three at once?
>>541754898show your flag
>>541753276Hohols should know the pain.
>>541754924Heт
>>541753276Time to invest
>>541754824well yea, NATO is a defensive pact for deterring moscow from expanding into neighboring nationsinnit funny how moscow is the nation threatening nuclear strikes, even through 'conventional' warfare? bad nation of bad people
>>541753648Finnish media told me that EU is a good thing for us, Covid vaccine is safe and effective, we wont have permanent NATO-bases even if we join NATO and Russia started this war. They also support pride month and gave us insight about the mostly peaceful protests in the USA few years back.
>>541754394ukraine is in this mess because they didnt join nato in the 90s or early 00s when they had the chance. they chose to stay neutral and that is why they are in this mess right. the balts were smart to not stay neutral. they would be battlefields now if they had stayed neutral.
>>541755036Finnish media would tell you not to eat feces, so you better start eating shit
it's NATO's fault!
>>541753276>peacepeace was the 8 years prior to that, unfortunately kindness was taken for granted
>>541753276Typical russian town
>>541753559It was NATO
>>541754584>IT 100% was grounds.no it wasn’t. what Ukraine does to its own citizens is none of russias concern.learn this fact: russia is not entitled to geopolitical or regional influence.>>541754824>NATO is an explicitly anti-Soviet organization that had no reason to exist post 1991 other than be redirected against Russiaa castle is an explicitly anti-bandit organization that had no reason to exist post 1453 other than be redirected against marauders
>>541754645How would that protect them? You're describing a mafia protection racket where the US or NATO moves into Russia's border in a threatening posture. Russia's problem is with NATO, not their neighbors, but cue the anti-Russia propaganda and fabrication of a Russian threat. Which shades the Russian response not towards the offending NATO, but the nation NATO occupied (often after conducting a coup to place a puppet in power). If the goal was to protect them, they wouldn't do that. Then explain Ukraine too: Is NATO protecting Ukraine by forcing them to fight to the very last Ukrainian so that nobody is left? How is that protection? It's national destruction (even forget for a moment they instigated and started it too).
>>541754992see >>541754830>>541755056>westoid retard brainrussia would have no reason to attack them. their stupidity aligned themselves with the judeoamerican agenda therefore making them enemies.idiot.
>>541753276Reminder that pol, especially american posters supported this war. You guys are worse than the kikes, somehow more bloodthirsty than them.
>>541755065>Finnish media would tell you not to eat feces, so you better start eating shitNaah, they tell lies and half truths. They would say, it is ok to eat shit in India because of the health benefits. Because of your answer, I know you are shilling and don´t belong here.
>>541753276> Пocлe нac - тишинaWhat have we learned children? Don't pick a fight with people who are stronger than you.
>>541755157>Anti banditLmaoooo. What is NATO doing right now? Instigating conflicts, participating in attacks on civilians, attacking oil infrastructure and seizing civilian vessels. The US illegally arrested and abducted Maduro as well this year. So how would you explain that? NATO's entire political posture in Eastern Europe is the explicit spread of weapons and deliberate destabilization. Jesus.
An whole crore of Ziggers have died for this liberation which took years. I will take a shit in their honor.Slava ukraine
>>541755211Cuban crisis is something nafotrannies never heard or read in their history classes
>>541754439This guy fucks.
>>541755303>bricshitskin flagI imagine you say the same about palestinians?
>>541754185Show us your funny small hat Rebbe.
>>541755323Yea I remember so well the US bombing Cuba to oblivion after the soviets coup'd it and actually installed fucking nuclear missile. You see with you kikes it's always about projection.
>>541753276Looks like a sustainable peace to me.The Romans called it pacare, to pacify.
>>541753276>kike run gasstation larping as global powercan´t wait until these collapsethe gloating and coping will be top tierfollowed by "we dindo nothing" and "nuu zaa shooo"
>>541755308according to russian propaganda.police also just exists to antagonise criminalsshields are arrowphobic
>>541755211>russia would have no reason to attack them.watch the tucker carlson interview with putin. putin thinks ukraine belongs to russia since medieval times, it isnt even about nato. he just wants ukraine to be part of russia and thats it.
>>541755363>literally bricshitskin marxist calling you kike if you don't agree with glorious judeo bolchevik propagandaAHAHAH
>>541755337Yup. The very same. Morality plays no part in geopolitics and specially realpolitik. Do I wish for the pallies to kill all the kikes in Israel ofc I do, but open confrontation is absolutely retarded for them and as result they are getting genocided as we speak.
>>541754439>russia launches a campaign of mass murder, rape and destruction >lol look at what europe supports
>>541754185>>541755363YOUR SMALL HAT REBBE! SHOW IT TO US! NOW!
>>541753276Ukraine should have just negotiated with Russia instead of sacrificing the entirety of their population like this for evil globohomo jews
>>541755323Listen xhud, you don't get to enjoy a Russian Monroe doctrine. You just don't, ok? >>541755380Havana looks worse than Mariupol, NAFOtrannie> soviet coup'd itIt's hilarious how someone pays bots to spread hilariously bad hasbara fiction on /pol/
>>541755380as i said it alreadyit´s a pity that projection is not an olympic discipline, bc if it would. Russia could finally win something
>>541755380>Yea I remember so well the US bombing Cuba to oblivionUS and USSR managed to resolve the conflict and both sides walked with an advantage you illiterate fucking nigger.
>>541755454You are french. I really have no other insult that is greater than this. Even the britbongs have more testosterone and self respect than you.
>>541753276They make a desert and call it peace
>>541755211wow, multiple nationa want to join a pact of nuclear protection against moscow, yet a third nation is the instigator?kek
>>541755428>muh gas station cope Lmfao. It wasn’t true in 2021 it still isn’t today>>541755434>anything that isn’t globohomo jew NAFO shit is Russian propaganda! Shalom
>>541753559SPBP makes nafotrannies seethe.This is also objectively true. No one forced ukroniggers to agree to join NATO. They could have insisted on neutrality remained unraped.FAFO
>>541755556> checkemShit, almost that nice number Pyotr.
>>541755550yes yes i forgot, we are le evil ruZZians and downvoted on reddit, we dont deserve to have anything diplomatically
>>541755520Did it ever cross your mind that Russia refused any negotiations? They even lied about their invasion right before it happened. You piece of shit were even parroting their propaganda "noooh, its nafo propaganda, those are just regular military exercise">>541755556And yet the US didn't bomb cuba to oblivion despite that you coup'd it and you installed fucking nukes. Ukraine did none of that shit and yet you kike bloodthirsty orcs destroyed it.>>541755566Man you're literally a bricshitskin mad at whites who spams bricshitskin propaganda to justify the destruction of an european country. You don't have any race.
>>541755616> multiple nationa want to join a pact of nuclear protection against moscowIs that how you describe globohomo couping the legitimately elected Ukrainian government in 2014 to instigate this war?
>>541753276Maybe ukrainian soldiers should stop hiding in cities and placing their ammo stockpiles in residential areas.Russians fought on the fields in Kursk and their towns were not destroyed.
>>541755442Not really. He was OK with neutral ukraine as a buffer state, Ukraine in NATO is red line. Merkel herself said that way back in like 08, that trying to take over the Ukraine means war with Russia.
>>541755630>parrots literal kremlin buzzword saladshelomova
>>541755630>Lmfao. It wasn’t true in 2021 it still isn’t today>lost Syria>lost Mali>lost Venezuela>losing Iran is loadingyea, you´re right. Now Russia isn´t even a gasstation anymore. Just an nigger swamp, larping as globalbawa
>>541755721There was no coup you fucking nigger and even if there was one that's not a reason to kill 1 million ppl you kike. Btw Russia invaded Crimea even before your "coup" happened. So much for the american patriot saying "you deserve to get bombed to oblivion if you dare to rebel against your gvt"
>>541755760lol, nonone of your bullshit takes is true...
>>541753648According to the undisputed authority of war theory, picrel, it's always the defender who starts a war by resisting, not the attacker, because if the defender instead of resisting surrendered immediately there wouldn't be any conflict, no violence, no damage done; the attacker would simply impose his political will on the attacked.
>>541755465They were being genocided regardless, the ethnic cleansing in the West Bank was being implemented in full force well before 2023. Sinwar managed to destroy the Abraham accords, turn Syria into a Turkish proxy and Iran into a nuclear power. 40 jewish trannies being beheaded was all it took to destroy the israeli posture with Arabs, Turks, Persians and young people in the West. It was a masterfully executed suicide by kike (taking the kike with you), I'd say
>>541755711>Did it ever cross your mind that Russia refused any negotiations?Yea, they even shot Denys Kireyev, one of the negotiators...ohwait
>>541755662This isolation from globalism may cause pain right now but in the future this will be your biggest strength. Russia has now practically managed full Autarky if you guys manage to deal with your birth rate (very possible with the downfall of feminism) you will be in the best position since the start of WW1 to link up Europe with Asia by rail and make the new silk road. This the the reason behind all the CIA meddling in Central Asia, it's the reason why the USSR went to war in Afghanistan... China needs a consumer market and if you manage to link consumer with producer by land you negate all the power the atlantic powers have by controlling sea chokepoints and fix the biggest weakness russia has that your government wanted to fix since the times of Peter the Great, the lack of warm water ports.tldr Russia is today and in the near future the single most promising white nation on earth.
>>541755556>both sides walked with an advantageExcept the american W was publicized ("Russia backed down") while they were smart enough to keep their L secret until docs were revealed decades later when no one cared. Normies in USA are still taught that Cuban Crisis ended with Russia backing down like a dog.Russia has always sucked with external PR/propaganda in the western world. Your outreach and investment into Africa only matters to those niggers. No one in the west cares since you're not investing into OUR niggers. I now await your>but wectoids banned our media platformsexcuses.
>>541755721>globohomoyet here you are... posting on a GLOBALIZED website with HOMOSEXUAL influences everywhere you look... surely you'll be based and traditional and denounce globalization, right?the 2014 revolution of dignity was a choice the Ukrainian people made to separate themselves from a pro-moscow politician, simple as
>>541755711Let's do a deal, post your had with a timestamp if I'm darker than you I leave the thread and you win by default. If I'm whiter you leave the thread and I win by default. Deal?
>>541755711You are either shilling or just plain ignorant about both conflicts.>And yet the US didn't bomb cuba what are Bay of pigs invansion and numerous assassination attempts and terror cells then? >Ukraine did none of that shitThey couped their president just for starters and we ve been on negotiations since the 2014. Minsk agreements hello? or nothing exists in your mind before 2022?
>>541755812> Still in Syria> Still in Mali> Venezuelans were worthless spics anyway> Iran stronger than everRussia's allies (Best Korea and Iran) give them cannon fodder and missiles. The same can't be said for Ukrainian allies kek
>>541755760>He was OK with neutral ukraine as a buffer state,he was okay with ukraine being a puppet state under the leadership of a belarus style potato dictator. remember how the russians poisoned the western aligned ukrainian presidential candidate in 2004. they were already doing acts of war against ukraine in 2004. i am an old fag, i remember this shit starting the moment putin became president of russia, he immediately started shit with ukraine, pressuring them with gas prices and all sorts of demands and pushing russia friendly candidates. he did the same thing in belarus, where he was successful in installing his puppet. its the same playbook as erdogan in turkey, who wants his ottoman empire. in the same way putin wants a russian empire.
>>541755711> Did it ever cross your mind that Russia refused any negotiations?Well I paid attention to the whole thing like an autist as it went down. I remember Minsk 2, hell Angela Merkel later openly admitted they used it just as an excuse to arm Ukraine and prepare them for war the entire time.
>>541755812>nonsense kvetching intensifies Whew bud
>>541754394Much worse than that,All those covid variants were coming out of evil genocidal ukiranian biolabs. Putin finally hits them all and covid disappears. Ukranians wanted to sell fauci's white genocide from their Obama funded d.u.m.b. biolabs.
>>541753276Well yeah, it's their world. They have nukes and infinite people to throw at someone who this this is not peace. Might is right lolThe fuck you gonna do about it? Elect more kremloids?
>>541755837> There was no coup you fucking nigger but even if there was oneKek
>>541755904Bingo. "War is diplomacy by other means." And if a country is willing to risk war because they find the demands presented to them too objectionable and onerous?That's fine. You just don't get to whine about being the victim.>>541755961>full AutarkyFrom the west maybe. And even then they are still importing hundreds of millions worth of goods via 3rd parties like Kazakhstan. Some of this is a stop-gap before Russians migrate to domestic productions (like Boeing parts before Russian civilian airplanes are brought to market en masse) but there will never NOT be a demand for western toys, electronics, and clothing in Russia.>and that's ok
>>541756091> Still in Syria> Still in Mali> Venezuelans were worthless spics anyway> Iran stronger than everkek, lmao evenmay i see it?
>>541755993> yet here you are... posting on a GLOBALIZED website with HOMOSEXUAL influences everywhere you look...>t. Globohomo jew It’s the only place with something resembling free speech left
>>541755915I understand. The point I tried to make here is that the Pallies lacked a grand strategy. They shoud have worked more with Assad instead of sending just a few token brigades as they had widespread penetration into the Israeli society if they worked together with Hezbollah and Assad they would be able to strike back at Israel in conjunction. These are just ideas off the top of my head I don't care a whole lot about that specific region but regardless the biggest advantage the jews have is that they aren't divided meanwhile the muslims are and a house divided can't stand.
>>541753276The eternal peace of the grave
>>541755961Russia faces the same decay as any other european nation, but just for another reason and arguably even worse. Its a big topic which is too hard to tangle on this board, but thank you for your kindword macacobro>>541755965>I now await your excusesexcuse for what? Our bad PR? Nothing to say but that most people here are very shortminded. I barely remember seeing anyone who followed the conflict since the roots and actually cared what Ukraine is and was before 2014
>>541754038Oh, you mean like Palestine?
>>541756153Anything else to contributeJohn Texas from Ohio Oblast?
>>541753276Yeah well russias about to be wiped off the map, but so are many other's Dumb cunts ..
>>541756004>shitskin is obsessed about skin colorI knew it>>541756067Da comrade, me dont ignorant. Me need to be taught by commissar Levy about why Glorious Judeo Bolchevik puccia is justified in destroying (again) a nation!>what are Bay of pigs invansion and numerous assassination attempts and terror cells then?The kind of stuff you're doing in Ukraine before this war happened? Hell you even go as far as poison Uk civilians or hijack civilian planes to kill your opponents. >They couped their presidentCool, they do what they want. They are a sovereign country. >we ve been on negotiations since the 2014.That you obviously broke with this war.
>>541756372>he said the line Got any more to check off your list?
>>541756107>Stasi agent says ukraine says something pro russiacolor me surprised. And you think Russia didn't prepare for war you dumbfuck?
>>541756253The last time Palestinians had a chance to defeat kikes was in 1916. You'd be fooled by jewish propaganda to think they could have gained the upper hand military/strategic wise ever since. Once the Brits set foot on the region, it was pretty much game over for them
>>541753705hey not all of us wanted this shit. it was sponsored by the industrial lobbyists. just look into the 2014 protests, it has CIA written all over it
>>541756516Yea bro, those protest were fake and gay. Everyone knows being a satellite of Russia is based and redpilled!
>>541756107you dont remember shit. in 2014 both russia and ukraine were too weak to go on a large full scale offensive. putin thought he could snatch the donbass like he snatched crimea, over in a few days with some little green men, that were totally not russian soldiers. he got caught pants down when the ukies actually offered resistance and the donbass incursion got contained. merkel knew that putin would come back for another go and wouldnt uphold any peace deal or contract. ukraine wasnt prepared for shit by the west, germany most certainly didnt deliver anything. i know only of trump sending a handful of javelins. the ukrainians were mostly left on their own, people here werent sure wheter they would actually succesfully resist russia and remain sovereign or roll over like belarus and become a russian puppet. from 2014-2022 that seemed to be a possibility.
Putin is still in ww2 in his head he said in the tucker carlson interview he want East Europe country back in Russia like beforeThis fucking mongoloid country is only war and poverty. It's a shame to the world .Every educated and class people from russians want to get away from this shithole . Every rich russians guys live in west Europe.Every russians girls want to leave this hell to marry a west european man.
>>541756103The Ukraine was never a puppet state and Belarus only became a puppet recently.>remember how the russians poisoned the western aligned ukrainian presidential candidate in 2004No, not really. He was poisoned, but it was never proven by whom. But remember how Americans memed an incompetent politician into power by cancelling elec,tion results and then this fella that they pushed to power only got 2% in next elections and the guy, who was accused of election fraud previously, won?>in the same way putin wants a russian empire.Everyone wants an empire. Problem is that Russia has been on a backfoot for decades. They have been reactive in their politics, not proactive. Putin here is reacting to American attempt to seize power over the Ukraine which was a break of the terms that were agreed upon in 1990s and formalized in Belavezha accords and the original Ukrainian constitution.
>>541753276I see a good investment opportunity after the war things will be cheaper and it will be easy to make money Ukrainians should lose more quickly so that smart people can profit sooner
>>541756439Dude you’re so full of shit and talking like a plebbitor. Ukraine was already a sovereign country in 2014 when globohomo coupd its legitimately elected government. The pre-coup government included all of those ethnic Russian Ukrainian citizens you know? Then the globohomo jew gov in 2014 immediately moved toward NATO and started promising war with Russia. All of those ethnic Russian Ukrainians in the center and east and south didn’t want that, so they tried breaking off.
>>541756103The west never accepted the status quo, the puppet status of Ukraine that at least guaranteed peace. They always meddled in their politics, financed orange revolution, conspired with criminal jewish oligarchs that stole gas from the pipelines that was destined for western Europe, despite getting "friendship gas" from Russia for way below world market price. Of course Russia would try everything to prevent this.> acts of war against ukraine in 2004Read a book about war theory before posting nonsense here.
>>541753276I don't see possible noisy neighbors there
>>541756610> ukraine wasnt prepared for shit by the westThat contradicts Merkel’s own, and many others statements then. What an interesting thing to assert.
>>541756210Sure. That's why I said it will cause pain right now but in the end it will be for the best. Mark my words though, as soon as the war is over the western companies will come running back to the Russian market and I hope to God the Russian state makes them pay dearly for this. Tax them to the fucking gills. Global capital need to be kept on a short leash and made to understand that they aren't indispensable.>>541756332I wasn't being just kind anon I was describing things as I see, I work in finance and we've been investing more and more in Russia. Maybe you can call me a glass half full kind of guy but as far as Russian problems goes (they are gigantic sure) but they aren't as deep as those in the west, your geography being your biggest asset and birth rate and brain flight being your biggest downsides. Fix that and your country who is still homogeneous will have no problem soaring. Western democratic nations will have to completely uproot their entire national ethos and revert either back to monarchy or dictatorship in order to not fall in a civil war, that change will be far more harder for them to make because it goes against everything their culture stands for. They are facing a civilization level change where it's simply not possible anymore to have the levels of individualism and comfort they once had and this brings resentment and political violence up until the point where their government institutions and laws fail because they were design for a high trust homogeneous affluent society.
>>541753276I don't care about Slavistan. I hope they all die.
>>541755434EU and NATO brought all the niggers, pajeets and muslims to Germany and here you are defending the very people that made it happen. Shalom!
>>541753559Unironically this
Always funny to see the american posters telling you "its a coup!!! they deserve it" when their own fucking country originates from a coup.Also there's the "bad coup" and the "based and redpilled" coup (see all the african countries that have been coup'd by actual foreign troops).>>541756717Russia has been constantly melding into their affairs. They wanted to turn this country into bielorussia. They even went as far as poison their fucking president. Also your fucking ethnic russian voted (something they cant do in glorious bolchevik puccia) for the kike. And stfu about NATO. It's a fucking defensive alliance. Turkey is part of it and it doesn't prevent them from buying russian stuff and making deals with putin.>All of those ethnic Russian Ukrainians in the center and east and south didn’t want that, so they tried breaking off.Nice fucking headcanon. I guess California, New Mexico, etc can secede from the US anytime they want then?
>>541756439>shitskin is obsessed about skin color> I knew itTOP FUCKING KEK. Your skin is the color of poop.
>>541756878>t. Ethnic European hating shitskin
>>541756610>both russia and ukraine were too weak to go on a large full scale offensiveZSU could barely stand against Donbass militia, which even according to official American sources was 90% locals. They would collapse if Russian army actually deployed and not only because they were weak, but because large portion of the army wasnt even loyal to Maidan; the propaganda and purges did not yet created an army loyal to the new regime.Putin had both far better casus belli and a far better chance of success at 2014-2015, but he did not push it because he prefered to sort things out diplomatically and it worked up until end of Trumps presidency, when Bidens fraction start to assert control.
>>541756439>The kind of stuff you're doing in Ukraine before this war happened?ahaha man..... Choose what are you blaming us for starters. This pingponging from a to b isnt really making you smart if you didnt know.>Cool, they do what they want. They are a sovereign country.Great point. When are you gonna disband foreign legion then?>That you obviously broke with this war.yes yes evil russia, acting like niggers, yada yada, we ve heard that before. Tell me whats the point in even talking to you if you just dont know anything about this conflict
>>541756928> Russia has been constantly melding into their affairs. They wanted to turn this country into bielorussia. They even went as far as poison their fucking president. Also your fucking ethnic russian voted (something they cant do in glorious bolchevik puccia) for the kike.And stfu about NATO. It's a fucking defensive alliance.Just a bunch of made up garbage. What do you mean people can’t vote in Russia? Russia is holding elections in the midst of war this fall, while Zelensky is over two years out from suspending elections and becoming a dictator. No wonder you have what happened in Ukraine in 2014 ass backwards
>>541753276I don't see any Azov nazis there so there is more peace now. You don't have to worry about Azovites kicking your shit in because you aren't one of them. Jews and browns strangely get an exception.
>>541756893Nobody brought rapefugees but the germans themselves, especially Merkel (the stasi/pro putin agent).Btw Russia has more shitskins than any other country in europe. >>541756940Here you go my bricshitskin low iq friend.
>>541757169>What do you mean people can’t vote in Russia? Russia is holding elections in the midst of war this fallAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>Btw Russia has more shitskins than any other country in europe.shitskins in question
>>541756799complete and utter bullshit. especially you as a german would know that we absolutely sucked russian cock for decades and let them bribe our politicians left and right literally. every party took russian money. they were given access to everything, funding to the army was slashed to the point the german army had to use brooms instead of rifles for exercises. nobody threatened russia, even chechnya and georgia got overlooked, forgiven, forgotten. i know you have methodichka check list of talking points to work off but its all bullshit and an insult to everyone who actually was an adult in the 90s and 00s already.
>>541757212Nope, it was EU with the jews. NATO made it possible with forever wars. You are a faggot shill and you are no use to me.
>>541756471got more of your nigger takes?i mean your ox-cart won't eat itself up
>>541757257They are. Ukraine meanwhile is not. All you have for a rebuttal is some plebbit >hahahaha bullshit
>>541756821no it doesnt. i have read her exact quotes and they dont support what you claim.
>>541753559
>>541757075>ahaha man..... Choose what are you blaming us for starters. This pingponging from a to b isnt really making you smart if you didnt know.I already told you: You project to others what you do yourself: Coup other countries to then install your military, your missiles, etc. And even when it happens to the fucking US they dont got full nigger ape like you do.>Great point. When are you gonna disband foreign legion then?????>That you obviously broke with this war.Not my fault if you guys act like fucking niggers all the time.
>>541756928just a reminder
>>541755654Ukraine wasn't joining NATO, they'd applied and been rejected multiple times, including Zelensky asking to be 'fast tracked in', which defeats your idiotic vatnik argument that there was some big rush to get them into it.It's a self defeating argument in the first place because you're pointing out that anyone who doesn't want to be fucked with by Russia will get invaded by Russia.
>>5417535592ndpbp
>>541757349The Glorious Elections were Supreme Leader Comrade putin wins with 97% all the time! How could I forget that!John Smith you're so clever!>>541757422Another reminder
>>541753276might as well should have just dropped the nuke and save time.
>>541753276This is what I call peace.
>>541757464> which defeats your idiotic vatnik argument that there was some big rush to get them into it.They were being armed, trained and funded by NATO countries for war anon. There was a massive armament taking place in Ukraine.
>>541757502>also not a rebuttal>posts some shit about Niger Don’t be so quick to change the subject now globohomo
>>541754824>NATO is an explicitly anti-Soviet organizationYes. And Russia wanted to join several times.
>>541757327>even chechnya and georgia got overlooked, forgiven, forgotten.>chechnya Internal Russian problem that has literally nothing to do with Germany>GeorgiaGeorgia tried to take over separatist territories backed by Russia and got, surprise, surprised, spanked by Russia.This is too easy. You retards need to realize this is not the fucking reddit. Saying that Germany somehow has to put allahuakbars in bumfuck Caucasus over its own national interests is beyond ridiculous.
>>541753276This is what Israel calls peace.
>>541753276Don't you have some schools to bomb kikeslave?
>>541753276BasedTotal Annihilation of your Enemies
>>541757563>couples of javelins>the "massive armament"roflBtw John Smith when is this MASSIVE armament is hitting the BLACK MARKET like you said for the last 5 years? Are they finally going to use these javelin against civilian planes the way the GLORIOUS russian rebels of the popular democratic republic of the donbass did?
>>541753276seems peaceful and quiet
>>541757047>they would collapse if Russian army actually deployed and not only because they were weakyeah we saw that in georgia, where the russians struggled to concentrate forces and had absurdly high losses in engagements that they should have won easily. also the tu22s that had to dive bomb like in ww2 because they had zero guided ammunitions was pretty embarrassing. russia wasnt prepared for any serious combat and 2014 was just 6 years later .
>>541757563>nigger robs his neighbor>xaxa russia stronk!>neighbor starts to gear up>nooooo, how unfairyea, swamp niggers of europ
>>541757327lol
>>541757708It was many billions upon dollars worth of shit among other things. But you said there was none. Now it’s>couple of javelins Which is it?
>>541757681Hmm it's almost as if it's the same ppl doing it.
>>541757212> nafriYou can leave the thread now.
>>541755965>our government keeps lying to us and this is your fault
>>541757687We just made an arms deal with those genocidal baby mutilators.
>>541757563So? In your mind ukraine was planning to invade russia? Why would anyone want to take any part of russia? It's a shithole
>>541755200>NATO protecting Ukraine by forcing them to fight to the very last Ukrainian so that nobody is left? How is that protection?So when someone mugs you on the street I assume you just give him your wallet without resistance, right? Why fight the mugger when it would just prolong the violence? That's the pathetic 'argument' you're making. It would also apply about 10 times more to the NVA who ended up winning against a massive power that severely outgunned and outnumbered them.>Why are you Vietnamese fighting us? you have no chance, you're just prolonging your own suffering!
>>541757752> neighbor starts to gear upyes like we said, various globohomo countries were arming them like crazy for war with Russia. Merkel admitted Minsk 2 was all a lie to buy time to build Ukraine up for war Why do you lie so much
>>541753707>>541753559technically it was CIA when it shot euromaidan protestors in 2014source: I have a hunch
>>541757804>whiterYou won.
>>541756842maybe you are right. i m however skeptical. I m sorry i cant full write out the reasoning, hate to dissapoint a well written response>>541757417>You project to others what you do yourself: Coup other countries to then install your military, your missiles, etc.Nigger, couping countries is a modus operandi of the west. Its not a projection when you ve done this many more times than we did. Ukraine is no different in that regard>????since you are obv unaware about politics. Foreign legion has been doing exactly that. Involving itself in other countries affairs, specifically african countries.>Not my fault if you guys act like fucking niggers all the time.us acting like niggers has little to do with your little knowledge about the conflict in Ukraine
>>541757825> Why would anyone want to take any part of russia?Ukraine invaded Kursk in this war, kek. It seems worthwhile enough to them they mounted an invasion of Kursk.
>>541757781Javelin aren't MASSIVE ARMAMENT you dumb fuck. Holy shit John Smith from the country of guns doesn't know shit about military.And it wasn't worth of billions you stupid fuck. You need a law in the congress for that.
>>541757749>yeah we saw that in georgia, where the russians decisively wonk>russia wasnt prepared for any serious combatNeither was ZSU. Point is, the balance of power was far more in their favour than in 2022. Russia had a real military, sure with issues, but it was loyal to the state. ZSU was militia-tier and had to employ football hooligans and criminals to fight bunch of angry miners. Over the span of 6 years ZSU improved massively. Russian military improved only marginally because their starting point wasnt complete and utter shit.
>>541757787>appearsso it's opinion, please read the article and see that this parallel is forced to make Israel look better
>>541757787sure buddy
>>541757888yea, but these country started arming them, AFTER rusniggers started this whole messthat´s the part of the timeline you niggers always forget
>>541757985>Nigger, couping countries is a modus operandi of the westWhat is Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger you filthy scum? What is Afghanistan? And I'm not even counting the other soviet attempted failed coup like the one in Munich.
>>541757988> And it wasn't worth of billions you stupid fuck. You need a law in the congress for that.It was billions. Presidents have various discretionary spending, not to mention black budget programs. You’re conveniently ignoring the entirety of the EU nations too, which were also contributing many of them to Ukraine’s armament. That’s what Merkel bragged about. Damn you shills are bad
>>541753276russians are making video games again, fuck yes.
>>541758142> yea, but these country started arming them, AFTER rusniggers started this whole messNo. The legitimate Ukrainian government was coup’d in 2014 by globohomo, precisely to instigate this.
>>541753559And Iran is winning. Lindsay Clancy is innocent. ICE is the gestapo. George Floyd was murdered. Epstein was a Republican. No one is illegal. Black Lives Matter. The unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated. Biden is in perfect health. Hate speech is not free speech.
>>541757669>>chechnya>Internal Russian problem that has literally nothing to do with Germany>>Georgia>Georgia tried to take over separatist territories backed by Russia and got, surprise, surprised, spanked by Russia.yeah russia decides something is an "internal problem" when its in their own territory but when its in another country its rightful protection of "separatist territories". just as putin sees it fit. thats the issue.
>>541758151you want me to bring out the US coups and their attempts? Trust me this one wont fit on your fingertips
>>541758238None of that bullshit has anything to do with this you fucking tranny
>>541757985Np fren there is no mood anymore for a meaningful discussion anyway. The bots derailed the thread. Guess in the end it doesn't even matters that much... on an individual level all we can do is try to live life as best we can history will do what history does.>>541757911Thanks for being the judge of this dispute. I'd rather we sticked to having an actual discussion but faggots like him make it impossible. It's like trying to talk to a woman or maybe a downie.
>>541758151>What is Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger you filthy scum?invited>What is Afghanistan?also invited
>>541753705Where did you get that idea? We had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was inevitable that conflict between Russia and the Ukraine would happen due to their history.Fuck, I'm a nationalist as well, but even I know that world conflict is not an invention of the US.
>>541758153"If you mean “between Russia’s 2014 invasion/annexation of Crimea and the start of the full-scale invasion on 24 February 2022,” then the amount of foreign military assistance Ukraine received was much smaller than what came afterward.The best-documented number is the United States: roughly $3.0–3.3 billion in U.S. military/security assistance from 2014 to 23 February 2022""This $3.3 billion was not all “weapons” in the narrow sense. It included training, communications equipment, radars, vehicles, medical equipment, institutional assistance and, increasingly after 2017–18, lethal equipment such as Javelin anti-tank missiles. So the dollar value of literal armaments was lower than $3.3 billion."WOOOOOOW SO MUCH MASSIVE ARMAMENT, 3.3 billion in 8 years, the budge of the texas national guard for one year!!!WOOOOOOOW TOTALLY DESERVE TO BE INVADED!!!!!
>>541758254> russia decides something is an "internal problem" when its in their own territory but when its in another country its rightful protection of "separatist territories"Doesn’t every government do that anon?
>>541758291>Guess in the end it doesn't even matters that muchthat it doesnt.>on an individual level all we can do is try to live life as best we can history will do what history does.you are right in that one, I wish you well too my fren
>>541758254Misising the point, Mehmet...why should Germans care to begin with?
>>541757804>normal white skin = nafriYou're so dumb. You're such a low iq kike. I actually pity you.
>>541753276They are also Victorious. So Come In Come In, Eat Our Savoury Savoury Savoury Savoury Russian Agency. Be Our Guest.
>>541758254> separatismLet's not mention that the people behind the separatist movement were foreigners smuggled into Dagestan and Chechnya by the CIA via Georgia and Azerbaijan and they were actual terrorists doing suicide bombings inside Russia.Let's also not mention that the founders of Azov and Pravyi Sektor that are active in Ukraine right now were also fighting alongside those terrorists back then under the same CIA backing.OY GEVALT these are completely natural seperatists movements, nothing to see here goy.> pic very fucking related
>>541758254Different time, conveniently enough.Chechnya happened before the unilateral recognition of Kosovo that bypasses the UN Security Council in 2007. Kosovo has set precedent that you can just declare land outside of your country as an independent state and do diplomacy with them, as in, protect that land against the globally recognized de jure owners of said land. Which is why the Russian government started mirroring this shit just the next year in Georgia and, later, in Ukraine. It's a degradation of global institutions.
>>541758351That’s only the U.S., it doesn’t even include European nations, or even other western aligned nations like israel. All of those countries helped to arm Ukraine. The U.S. figure alone is billions, just like I said. You are trying to pretend that’s nothingBillions goes a long way in Ukraine, it definitely did in 2015
>>541753559This
>>541758237lol and this is the part that you retarded gulaghomos can´t comprehend.People can vote policitians in AND kick them out. But nigger cattle like russians always fail to understand this
>>541758449I can see mark of a nigger on your hand and the furious seething oozing from your posts give it away>>541757212
>>541758433>mehmetYou know shitskins like sandniggers and niggers support russia, right? >>541758523You fucking thing the rest of europe had a MASSIVE ARMEMENT to give to Ukraine. Why the fuck do you think NATO exist? And nope, Israel never gave shit to Ukraine since they are allied with Russia. Jesus fuck you guys never opened a history book.
>>541758238>>541758348The jew Pinchuk that was co-operating with CIA in the Ukrainian coup was in the Epstein files. Also Ukrainian general spilled the beans back in 2014 in an interview about the jews responsible. Top of that US warships has been in the Black sea since 2008. So, you can kindly go and fuck yourself. You are either dumb or shilling and therefore you are no use for me.>>541758291>It's like trying to talk to a woman or maybe a downie.Tactics.
>>541753276still less civlians killed than western warsguess that doesnt fit the narrative
>>541753559>spbphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg16 Dec 2013 - US Republican senator John McCain addresses crowds in Independence Square in Kiev on Sunday, encouraging the crowds to continue their peaceful protest in support of greater ties with the European Union>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-causeSenator John McCain on Sunday told thousands of Ukrainian protesters camped on Kiev's main square that Ukraine's destiny lay in Europe and that it would make Europe better."Ukraine will make Europe better and Europe will make Ukraine better," he said to crowds protesting against President Viktor Yanukovich's U-turn in trade policy away from Europe towards Russia.>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/13/john-bolton-planned-coups-donald-trump-january-6"...as somebody who has helped plan coups d’etat, not here, but you know, other places. It takes a lot of work... ">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change1 American visit, 1 Decade later.
>>541758491The independence declaration of Kosovo happened in early 2008, actually, and Georgia happened later same year. A quick fix.You can track that Russia did all the same retarded paperwork internally, where they recognized South Ossetia, Abkhazia, DPR and LPR as independent states out of pure geopolitical convenience, because that's what the west has done before.
>>541758572> People can vote policitians in AND kick them out.The legitimate 2014 Ukrainian nation voted the government in and then the globohomo instigated coup violently kicked the government out
>>541758609> Israel never gave shit to Ukrainelmfao you’re not even worth replying to. Just naked lies
>>541758392All the best to you too fren.>>541758449> normal DARK skin = nafriThere fixed it for you Abdullah.
>>541758708You're just a troll at this point. Go on show me the MASSIVE ARMAMENT Israel gave to ukraine.
>>541758733That's just average white. I'm sorry you never go outside you filthy vampire kike.
>>541757764lol 3 of our chancellors since 2000 ended up working for russian state companies btw.
>>541753276I don't think you have mate
>>541753276And america caused it bynot holding its word.
>>541758664>pls believe in my retarded takes, bc i saw it in my dreambuddy, not one of your retarded takes is trueEven jeets laugh at your foreign minister because of his delusional takes about ukrainelet that sink in.... fucking jeets
>>541758640There are 2 good videos top of that... One where Ukrainian general is beeing intervied after maidan and one where yevhen karash sector 13(?) tells how they co-operated with the west against Russia.Here is Yevhen:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NDw7mQEmX8
>>541753559Spbp, if you know that NATO aspirations most likely lead to war like everyone did after 2008 Georgia debacle and continue on the same trajectory you chose war deliberately, you can ofcourse disagree with russians having the right to be mad about it but its not upto you what they perceive are their interests, the ukrainian governement and its western backers wanted this war, they got it and OPs pic related is the completely expectable result
>>541758772I live in one of the most sunny regions in Brazil. When you are white enough you don't tan Abdullah. Now remove yourself from the thread, we had a deal.
>>541758351What makes you think this shit is "documented"? For example the massive supply of ammunition from Bulgaria to Ukraine during Donbass war openly admitted only after the 2022 war started.If you look at the US/EU/IMF funding during 2014-2022 it amounted to over 10% of Ukrainian spending. Lot of that money went into military for soldier salaries, fortifications, propaganda, factories etc. Javelins, Bayraktars and this shit makes waves, but it is just a tiny portion.
>>541753276>flagLmao don't you have another school full of kids to blow up for jews, Cletus?Anyway, Russia offered peace back in 2022 and BoJo, as the spokesman of the US empire ad its overlord, World Jewry, had King Grifter of Kyiiyiyiyiiv tear it up. The present result is brought to you by the judaeo-amerimutt empire. Shit, Jews wrote articles back in the 90s saying they would use butthurt-belter goyim as cannon fodder to weaken Russia.
>>541754874>They never wanted protectionYOU ARE THE MOST RETARDED NIGGER GORILLA I'VE EVER SEEN (for today)
>>541758927Do you have the call where Nuland is handpicking appointees to the Ukrainian parliament?
>>541758948Guess you should have remained in Russia you kike parasite. Imagine living in Brasil and not being able to tan. >>541759003Wooow, then sky is the limit I guess!!! The EU and the US (who struggles against Iran) massively armed Ukraine and there's nothing to prove!!You dumb fucking low IQ ape. Holy shit no wonder you believe anything putin tells you.
>>541757987In a war that russia started, yes, to be used as a bargaining chip for land swap. The question was, obviously, why would anyone start a war by invading russia AND intending to keep that land?Also, feigning ignorance by pretending to be too retarded to understand a question is not an effective debate strategy.
>>541758491with the difference being that you would struggle to find people in kosovo that actually want to be part of serbia. meanwhile the people in these georgian areas or in ukraine never had a referendum wheter they want to stay in ukrain or russia. oh wait they had! 84% of donbassians chose to stay in ukraine, but russia chose to ignore it because it didnt go the way putin liked.
>>541758921>it was real in my mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NDw7mQEmX8And the general names the masonic jews:https://odysee.com/@Eugene-Hicks:f/Ukraine-General-Yan-Kazemirovich-English-voiceover-and-subtitles-Zionists--Masonic-Mafia-now-control-Ukraine-Simferopol-07Mar14:6>>541759084Here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k
>>541759110>The EU and the US (who struggles against Iran) massively armed Ukraine and there's nothing to prove!!US funded Ukrainian military enlargement.Without US funding, Maidan regime could not fund a military capable of holding against Russia.
>>541758572They know. They don't care.Russians and Jews were both almost wiped out by the Nazis and it broke them. Since then everything they don't like is an existential threat and everything they do is justified.
>>541759270Bitch there are videos of combats in donbass. They are fighting with a bunch of old soviet tanks and weapons.Why are you so full of shit
>>541753276FAFO
only 2 nations held democratic referendums to join nato
>>541759191When this war started?
>>541759564So you believe that this war started by ukraine invading russia?
>>541759270>US funded Ukrainian military enlargement.2.7 billion usd from 2014 to 2022 from the usa vs. 37 billion usd military budget from 2014 to 2022 from ukraine itself.is it possible for you to not lie for a single post?
>>541759607I asked a simple question that you shoul not have any problems to answer. Instead you take "so you are saying"- tactic and not answering. You are shilling and should not be taken seriously. This is you:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A99G6O721gA
>>541759213No, it quite funnily mirrors the same events in Kosovo. People who were against the new local order have left, so only people who tolerated it remained. There were barely any Georgians in South Ossetia anymore by 2008, they were leaving in droves since the 90s civil war. South Ossetian government asked Russia to join the country because they would like to be united with North Ossetia, and Russian government sees no geopolitical reason in committing to such an action, so it's not happening. Abkhazians want to be part of neither Russia nor Georgia and their government would like to keep it that way.DPR and LPR governments obviously were asking for Russian recognition for years, and the people who lived there either moved to Russia, Ukraine or even elsewhere with an indifferent attitude towards the status of these republic (before the SMO). Just as Serbians were leaving Kosovo in droves, which meant the people who remained didn't mind the state of affairs decided for this land.The 84% number from 1991 is a complete non-sequitur, I'm afraid.
>>541759827You made a statement that made no sense, so I asked for clarification, and instead of answering the question, you deflect and project. As expected. I accept your concession.
>>541759713so for comparisonukraine spent roughly 40 billion usd on its military from 2014 to 2022 with 5% of that being american aid.in the same time russia spent 627 billion usd on its military.so 40 vs 627 billions.
>>541759249fucking fsb niggerthanks for linking you bullshit channel
>>541759923Nope. You are a liar. You only have one chance here and you blew it. You failed to answer to simple question "When this war started." It was YOU who stated that Russia started this war, so I simply asked, WHEN it started. You are a shill. You have no value to us.p.s. Support globohomo = traitor to your country.
>>541760077get lost rusnigger
>>541760032>lying jewthe odysee video names the jews and none of the videos are from my channel. You are a shill. You have 0 value here.
>>541759607Ukraine tried to invite biggest adversary to Russia to put military infrastructure at their borders which was a red line in Georgia that led to war already setting a precendent, Ukraine may have not started the war but they definetly instigated it with their western backers. If you point your guns at me and invite my biggest enemies to do it with you dont be suprised if I take the first shot. Is it moral? Probably not but predictable yes absolutely, western and ukrainian ruling class wanted the war
>>541759713>>541760017why do cattle humans insist upon there existing honest actors in realpolitik?is one supposed to be a drooling retard like you and believe that every arms deal is done in open for all to witness?
>>541760077"When this war started?" is not a question. "When did this war start?" would be. Learn basic english before posting on this site, vatnigger
>>541760241>links fsb deposit channel with the most retarded rusnigger takesofc it´s not your channel, it´s your fucking deparment channelget an chechen dick or atleast smile when an ukraine drone gets your sorry nigger ass
>>541758348keke
>>541753276Do orc pidor are killed to save Russia valuable lives? Yes. How many pidor orcs have died? Nobody cares. Easy math, do the rest yourself. Now what only left is to kill the survivors and nuke butthurtbelters for their war efforts, and then nuke then again if they say anything but thank you "white Russian master for teaching us subhumans a lesson".
>>541753722And you are a nafo fag, whats your point
>>541758935Why didn’t Russia invade Finland then?
>>541760256The finanon you are talking with is either the lonely 40+ virgin that was turned down and laughed by Russian hooker (that is why he hates them), the tranny from eastern finland (hates russias tranny laws) or some vpn faggot. He might also be the ukrainian refugee living in Tampere, but it is to late for that.>>541760445You have 0 value here. You blew it.
>>541759866how would you even know that? youve never been there, you dont speak georgian, you know noone from there. you are clueless at best and brainwashed or a shill at worst.for all we know and i highly suspect that abkhazia and ossetia are just russian glowie operations and the people there have no say. they are basically hostages just like the east germans were.>The 84% number from 1991 is a complete non-sequitur, I'm afraid.1991 is not that far in the past and still holds or otherwise zelensky wouldnt have gotten a majority of the votes in the east.
>>541760256NATO was never going to invade russia, neither was ukraine. Nobody was "pointing a gun" at russia. A more apt metaphor is this:Ukraine is the white man who wants to protect his home and property, so he buys a security system and a gun to protect them. Russia is the nigger outside on the street calling the white man a racist for buying a gun and a security system, but promises not to rob his house if he gets rid of them. Should the white man trust the nigger?
>>541760569If most of the world watch this video, we can start killing the niggers at the streets without the disapproval of the authorities.So, share this video.
>>541760569it would just try to destabilising it with various terrorist groups like they tried to mujahideens or chechens
>>541760514>can't even talk english properly>immediately jumps to ad hominem spam when called out on itKremlin ain't sending their best. Or maybe this is their best. Sad!
>>541753276Did russia declare peace or something? Think they declared war. Their officials now refer to it as a war instead of as SMO
>>541760569>NATO was never going to invade russia, neither was ukraine.Plans to dissect Russia by USA and NATO via proxy wars has been in the internet before you were even born you little faggot.>>541760675You could not answer to simple question and now you shift blame. You have 0 value here, only lies.
>>541760569bait used to have more effort
>>541754394>They're just being used as fodderYes
>>541760569What a shit metaphorRussia was given the guarantee when the USSR dissolved and along with it the Warsaw Pact - remember that? - MATO would not expand.It did right up to a Russia's borders, along with Ukraine turning violently anti Russia in 2014. This war was largely the fault of the west/NATO and its continuation into a blood bath for Ukraine is the inevitable result.
>>541760514>get your porting of an ox-cart full of shit!your handler aren´t merciful to you
>>541760747>zero argumentsI accept your concession>>541760727Maybe russia shouldn't start those proxy wars then. If what you're saying is true, then russians are complete retards for taking the bait and deserve to suffer the consequences
>>541760287what arms did ukraine get from the usa between 2014 to 2022 before the smo? a handful of javelins... some bayraktars from turkey. everything else came in after z. the ukrainians were no threat at all. they chose neutrality and peace and did not provoke russia and it was just useless, russia attacked anyway.
>>541760883in 2014 ukraine turned voilent against it´s rusnigger president, not against russian people or russia
>>541760899>I accept your concessionSo when the war started mr. shill? :D
>>541760883>Russia was given the guarantee when the USSR dissolved and along with it the Warsaw Pact - remember thatCan I see it? No? Next time, ask it in writing. Words that may or may not have been exchanged behind closed doors are not binding contracts. Even boris yeltsin admitted no such promise was ever made
>>541753799>do exactly what Ukraine tried to do before Russian intervention and eventual invasionYou are not the smartest bulb
>>541760984That's still a statement, not a question, retard. Adding a question mark at the end of a statement doesn't magically turn it into a question. Thanks for showing everyone you can't even speak english
>>541761030what should russia do? start a war that it can´t win?
>>541760883gorbachev himself said that that is a lie, nato expansion wasnt discussed at all. some us secretary of state that nato troops in east germany will not move into poland or kaliningrad in 1990. nobody ever said that poland is not ever allowed to join nato. the poles would have never agreed to such a demand.
>>541754645>Russia's neighbors desperately want protection from itYou actually think some Baltic shit hole could in any conceivable way militarily defend itself from Russia?Fucking imbecilic Burger thinking that has led to literally millions of deaths globally over that last 60 years.The ONLY thing that could protect places like Estonia or even Ukraine is good relations with its neighbours, not any sort of military threat.
>>541760990>Even boris yeltsin admitted no such promise was ever madeI have read USA goverments own papers and study from their national archives where they state different than the senile Boris. The key phrase was "led to believe". You just lie, lie, lie and lie. Change the flag, that is embarrassing.
>>541760935they also trained over 10k ukrainians a year with super nato tempo training, probably all dead now. published a nato communique saying ukraine would join nato and zely was talking about getting nukes weeks before the war broke out
>>541753276That's what NATO calls peace.
>>541760935>believe that every arms deal is disclosed>get told that arms deals can happen behind curtains>ask for disclosed arms dealsthanks
>>541761052When + ? = questionSo, when this war started Mr shill?
>>541753559spbpNo one can doubt the Swiss Neutral Verdict.
>>541754824you should be hanged for treason if you arent a russnigger on a vpn kek
>>541761114"Led to believe"translation = we interpret shit in whatever way we want to in order to have made up casus belli at some point in the future
>>541753276>This is what Russia calls peaceWhat? Even if it's under Russian control, there's still a war going on. Your post doesn't make any sense.
>>541761093>You actually think some Baltic shit hole could in any conceivable way militarily defend itself from Russia?yes, they do too little. thats the point. they need nukes and icbms. only then will they truly be safe from russian aggression. the same holds true for every european country. the russians will never stop, it will never be enough for them, they will always need a wider security corridors and there will always be "separatists" that pop up and that they will have to "protect" by killing us, enslaving us, starving us to death, freezing us to death. you cannot live next to a dictator that has control over so much power and expect him to just stay in his zone. every powerful dictator always turns imperialist.
>>541761234When this war started, you were just as retarded vatnigger as you are now
>>541761114>I have read USA goverments own papers>can´t differentiate between an statement and an questiontop kek, lmao evenfsb finest ladies and gentlemen
>>541758238>seething about a prattypostlmao
>>541760990Utter bullshit.What Russia wanted was NATO to dissolve along with the Warsaw Pact as both were now redundant. That didn't happen of course and NATO expansion continued, the Baltics are no military threat to Russia so they dngaf if they joined NATO. Ukraine and its literal descent into the most provocative version of Neo Nazism on Russia's borders could not be tolerated any longer when they started murdering Russian civilians in the Donbas.Everything since has proven the Russians correct. The entire Russian culture in Ukraine is being wiped out by Agent Z and his Nazi LARPers
>>541761284Lol, you are so fcking off. That is desperate.>>541761333>>541761337So, when the war started mr shill?
>>541753559imagine believing this
>>541753276Anyone got HD pics of this? Or just really battle beaten landscapes from war?
>>541756332>excuse for what? Our bad PR?Yeah. That was the criticism I was making in my post since you brought up the Cuban Missile Crisis earlier.FWIW I actually sympathisize. I don't understand how monkey has the patience to keep repeating the same positions that were established in 2022 on the conflict and that changed very little, if at all, since then. It seems like every time GlavKom has an interview he gets hit with the same wectoid media questions>why did Russia decide on an unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine?>when will Russia nuke Ukraine?etcEven I find it tiresome and I come to /pol/ to rehash the same number of arguments every single week.>>541756842>western companies will come running back to the Russian marketThis is guaranteed to happen. I also promise that Russia will be very careful who they allow "back in" and in what capacity because even the Security Council is smart enough to realize that the domestic manufacturing they were forced to restart after sanctions dropped is a HUGE economic engine that is elevating incomes for millions of Russians.
>>541761294>yes, they do too littleFuck right offIf Russia turns on the Baltic countries no amount of NATO weapons will save them.
>>541757464>NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.>Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May.>MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications.>We have asked Foreign Ministers to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting. Foreign Ministers have the authority to decide on the MAP applications of Ukraine and Georgia.https://www.nato.int/en/about-us/official-texts-and-resources/official-texts/2008/04/03/bucharest-summit-declarationtl;dr - kill yourself you dirty nigger.
>>541761227you can see which weapons get used... which american weapons got used in february and march 2022? javelins, nlaws....ukraine didnt have western weaponry until summer.
>>541753559I believe so I member watching Ukraine on fire on IPTV before the smo and it seemed like they were fighting Russian people in eastern ukrain.I am not an expert but that along with NATO sneaking weapons to Ukraine pointed at Russia.Short story long...... They basically gave putin an excuse to go in under the guise of saving the ethnic Russians in Ukraine from azob and unlike Crimea this time the world gave a shit.I wish for peace between the two and I am just a conscientious observer and slightly smarter than npcs
>>541757813100% your faultcompletely your faultwhy are you fucking so much?yes, you PERSONALLYI hold you responsible for ALL wectoid russophobia, zigger
>>541761628imagine if they had actually joined nato in 2004 alongside the baltic states. no war would have happened and they would still be able to live in peace.
>>541761656hey, this part is embarrassing for these niggersthe initial invasion got slapped just by some ragtag milita, they can´t cope with it
>>541761823There's a good chance you are right as Russia was still recovering economically from the crash of the 90s and their military was underfunded and lacking modernized equipment.But what's the point of living in what could have been?
>>541761462yo, glowniggeryou got more of some "ukraine" general drunktards like Yan Kazemirovich? Or maybe i can get another interview with Mariya Tsypko (Crimean activist, soldier’s mother, Odesa refugee, Luhansk referendum organizer, St. Petersburg baker, charity organizer, and Donetsk lawyer)?
>>541761460>what russia wantedNobody cares. Russia doesn't get to dictate what happens outside its borders>NATO expansion continuedIf there was some contract where nato promised not to expand, how come you liars never show it? Show it, and you win. You won't show it, because it doesn't exist. >started murdering Russian civilians in the DonbasNever happened, but I wish that it had, and I hope it happens for real, only on a much larger scale>The entire Russian culture in Ukraine is being wiped outBased. What is "russian culture" anyway? Being vodkaniggers and literal orcs. Good riddance
>>541761462I'll answer when you learn how to speak english. Maybe google translate can help you out
>>541762131>Russia doesn't get to dictate what happens outside its bordersIt very clearly does and is. Sneed about it.P.S. You will never get Karelia back =3
>>541762231Correction, they Don't even get to dictate what happens inside their own borders anymore, lol
>>541762041We already know you are shilling. You have only one chance here and you blew it. The general names the jews. 2 of them are in the Epstein files. The US plans to ukraine that has started in the cold war. The relationships with the nationalist are so far back. p.s. I bet you also say: "Israel has the right to defend itself" and "mrna-shot is safe and effective."
>>541762176No, you dont asnwer it because you are a lying shill. We all know this already. Change the flag if you can´t be honest.
>>541762356>broken english>random off-topic non-sequitursThis is the best russia has to send...
>>541762415Who is "we"? Igor and Dmitry next to you? Why Don't you ask them for help, pidor?
>>541753559>Ukraine started this war
>>541753276orwell was right about the vatniks
>>541762482after pringels death, everything just went to shit for these niggers
>>541762231Pls don´t, this stupidity still hurts my brain. If only it ended here, but no. After collapse of Soviet Union we were free from YYA-deal. What we did? We gave our independence and money to EU. Now we don´t own our own electricity or soon even water. What else? Well, we are peaceful nation, so lets join globohomo terrorist organization and get enemies not only from our nextdoor neighbor but around the world too!
>>541762356kekdid i make you mad glowie?
>>541762564>newfag shillanonsFresh military summary for you:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPM0nuWQCAU
>>541762616>nation enslaved by an 5'7" manletthe whole nation is worlds biggest shitfiesta
>>541762897>new shilling from another russian nostradumbassgot more?
>>541762796Oh no, the horror of being enemies of russia (who were already our enemies to begin with and are losing their war in ukraine) and their mighty allies, iran and north korea
>>541763126>who were already our enemies to begin with and are losing their war in ukraineLie.You sure like to shill, so are you ready to answer to my question: "When the war started?"
>>541763413Still not a question. Too proud to fix your mistake? You only humiliate yourself further.When the war started, you were the same worthless retarded russhit subhuman you are now, and always will be. You lost. And I'm laughing at you. Have fun getting drafted, I'll wonder which drone compilation I'll see you in. I'll be sure to enjoy every second of it. By the way, your family won't be getting any death benefits, and you will not receive a proper burial. Your mangled corpse will be eaten by maggots. A worth fate for one such as you, and one that awaits countless others from your failed loser, sad excuse of a country
>>541763717>Too proud to fix your mistake?Nope. Just answer the question. I bet you don´t even know.
