What caused /pol/ to transition from actual politically incorrect fringe ideologies to mainstream MAGA le free market conservatism?
>>541754962Trump told them to. Simple as. Trump is the way they feel important and special and cool. For a lot of them, it's the only thing they have in an otherwise mediocre life. They'll do whatever daddy says because they know what it feels like to be just... them. Lots will avoid that at all costs.
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>>541754962Free Markets are the detault state of manFighting them is fighting human natureThe smarter thing to do is to understand the free marketAnd adapt your life around itChasing looney ideas such as communismIs not something the smart intellectuals of /pol/ would ever approvetl;dr It is what it is
>>541754962the power of bibisi
I have always supported seizing the assets of everyone that profited from immigration or outsourcing, placing them in camps and forcing them to work to earn their freedom.
>>541755111>Free Markets are the detault state of manThere is no default state of man. We create our own default states. This era of "free markets," (more accurately probably called something like "socialism for the rich") is contingent, chosen, and consciously maintained. And we're gonna tear it down.
>>541755250>And we're gonna tear it down.And replace it with what?
>>541754962trumpisim is still politically incorrect, despite the fact that it is now more mainstream than it used to be. You have threads on this board alleging that tariffs were an intentional self destruction of the USA. --- An insane viewpoint, but mainstream in your democrat leftist circles due to your jewish media programming
>>541754962r/the_donald got banned and all came herenewfags will never know old /pol/ and I'm not sure if I should pity them or envy them
>>541755298Strict lobbying laws for domestic entities and a ban on foreign ones, dramatically higher marginal taxes on the earnings of the rich and corporations, draconian campaign finance laws, taxes paid up-front on borrowing against assets for amounts in excess of the national average of a single-family home, and increased cooperation with our former allies, including ratifying the ICC. Then, before we dramatically reduce military spending, we'll start getting rid of tax havens, with sanctions first and then militarily if necessary.
>>541755339tariffs are a targeted tool for growing domestic industries under a strong government directed hand, see Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and now China. You may want low tariffs on iprts of steel so that there is cheap raw material, but high tariffs on cars so that the domestic industry can outcompete outsiders. But what Trump is doing is retarded controlled demolition of supply chains for no reason.
>>541754962/Pol/ isn't a monolith. In fact I hate most of you faggots.
>>541755740Some of those ideas do not sound badexcept>ratifying the ICC.Why on earth would you want to do that?Undermining your own sovereignityWho elected and approved the ICC? Certainly not American citizensHave never known /pol/ old or nu to ever be a big fan of the ICCAs regards the rest of what you posted, regardless of the merit of those ideasThe fact is that they still represent adapting around free marketsNot fundamentally dismantling themFundamentally dismantling free markets looks something like CubaAnd no sane person wants to be Cuba
>>541754962Liberal MAGA boomer tourists.
>>541756076>Why on earth would you want to do that?It's how we finally settle the world. We have proven over and over and over again that we cannot be trusted to govern our behavior ourselves. Look at Iraq, Panama, Iran, Afghanistan, and on and on and on and on. Look at how we have raped the global south for our own benefit, even as we turn away and spit on the migration the rape creates. I don't think the era of global superpowers accountable only to other global superpowers is sustainable, sensible, or ethical. I think it needs to end, and allowing an external organization to hold even our leaders to our own laws is the only way forward.
>>541756541But why the ICC?Why are they so special?
>>541755111Free market theory didn't even exist until the 18th century and markets overall have existed for only ~4,000 years
>>541754962alicia WABAG
>>541756667Nothing. Expediency, more than anything. It exists and many of our allies are already signatories. America operates on a two-year national political cycle. As Trump himself has proven, if you move fast you can change lots of things. I just want to change things for the better for more than just the ultrarich.
>>541756076>Fundamentally dismantling free markets looks something like Cuba>And no sane person wants to be CubaFor the record, I'm a market socialist. I believe markets are efficient allocators of resources. What I do not believe is that they are efficient allocators of the political and economic rewards of that resource allocation function.
>>541755111this jeet gets it
>>541755339>You have threads on this board alleging that tariffs were an intentional self destruction of the USA. >--- An insane viewpointThe way they were implemented was insane. Taxing everything from everybody not only hurts the nation but is usually a Democrats position.
>>541756784The theory perhaps but they have been a reality since dawn of civilizationAlthough their effects have been more pronounced only in the recent past>>541756807That does not seem very smart honestly. There is no other way to say itIdeally the alternative would be a well thought out and well justified political entity>>541757005I assume that you believe that successful capitalists/capitalist entities such as corporations for exampleAre not the best allocators of economic gains but rather, some governmental entities?
>>541757436Is Feudalism a free market economy to you?
>>541757606no, but the trade that went on between various feudal economies followed free market concepts whether they explicitly approved them or not
>>541757868you don't now what capitalism is and it shows. Pro tip: Capitalism is not 'when trade happens'. Capitalism owns trade about as much as feudalism owns the concept of farming.
>>541758712Trade always followed the laws of supply and demand ie free marketsRegardless of the century said trade took place in or the political nature of the trading entities involved
r/the_donald was banned and we got flooded with milquetoast retards who now call /ptg/ home and consider spamming nigger and tranny the height of transgression
You have no idea how unhinged the lurkers are or aren't
>>541754962the left sprinted to the left
>>541754962>MAGA>free marketMedium quality bait
>>541755420I've been on the Chans since 2007. My main boards were /k/ and /v/ but /pol/ only caught my attention in 2016. In a way I'm part of the first real influx of cancer because of the Tump hype but I tried to integrate and not shit things up. Someone told me that ironic shitposting is still shitposting and I took it to heart. It was an entirely different crowd back then with great board culture and threads that were real gems offering insights you could not find anywhere else. I'm glad I caught the tail end of it.
>>541754962is that the dad from wonder years
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>>541754962maga was always a coopt of disenfranchised independents, koch brothers have been trying to grift deregulatory, anti state and low tax people since the 80's and started the tea party in 2002, but it didn't gain traction until obama's second term. basically people sick of the system and glownigger antics got baited
>>541759842It's fair to say that MAGA policies are not free market, rather they are the red brand of socialism for the rich and trampling on the poor. But working class MAGA voters typically justify their being constantly trodden on through reference to le free market, and that doing anything to resist would be le evil socialism.
>>541760681>ignore the people who manage the system and allowed this to happen, goy
